Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Deus Ex: Human Revolution

60 Achievements

25-30h

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Darker Shades

Darker Shades

You convinced a fast-talking bartender to let you see Tong Si Hung.

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How to unlock the Darker Shades achievement in Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Definitive Guide

Storyline related. You can miss the speech challenge (and the achievement) if you don't talk to the upstairs bartender, but instead eavesdrop on from the duct that goes past Tong's office.

As with all of the speech related challenges in this game, there is no one solution, and the dialogue varies. So, what worked for you may not always work.

If you fail this speech challenge you won't get invited to Tong's office, and therefore have to force the story along by overhearing a conversation via the vents that pass alongside the office. Besides getting this achievement, there is also one of the XP books (for Doctorate achievement) in Tong's office, which you won't have access to unless you pass this challenge.

I answered "pinpoint" all three times and got the achievement/XP. However, the biofeedback graph showed the last one as being incorrect.
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25 Aug 2011 21:03

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3 Pinpoints worked fine for me, thanks.
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By Box#4473 on 30 Aug 2011 00:48
It is missable as I did not converse with him. I eavesdropped through the vents to trigger the continuation of the mission.
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By DrJekl on 31 Aug 2011 20:29
Pinpoint, Advise, Pinpoint also will work.
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By Shinwasha on 25 Aug 2011 23:52
As will Pinpoint, Pinpoint, Advise.
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By Hirsute Dave on 26 Aug 2011 08:53
I did the same as Hirsute Dave and got it
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By Clamshells on 26 Aug 2011 22:20
As will Advise, Pinpoint, Pinpoint
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By Dr Worm Buffet on 28 Aug 2011 03:40
what about advise, advise and pinpoint?
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By on 28 Aug 2011 18:02
3 Pinpoints worked for me too and this was an "Oh Sh1t I've missed one" moment, but a good diary of what each each save was meant i could go back pop the Achievement then skip right back to where i was, thanks Gamer , +'ve vote, naturally wink
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By Big Dibs theDog on 30 Aug 2011 07:35
pinpoint advise advise worked for me, may mention that this occurs after you investigate the apartment
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By Dritnul on 06 Sep 2011 21:44
I used pinpoint and then the Social Augmentatation option of appease. Worked like a charm.
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By Cellar Attic on 02 Nov 2011 02:20
i used pinpoint pinpoint advise, thanks the this guide
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By eHeadaches on 13 Dec 2011 16:40
Pinpoint, pinpoint, insist (without the social augment) did the trick for me.
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By TriRock on 25 Feb 2012 18:22
Pinpoint, pinpoint, pinpoint worked for me. Thanks Gamer.
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By LazTurn on 13 Mar 2012 08:20
As no one seems to have mentioned it yet you MUST search the hacker apartment (main mission) before the bartender upstairs even shows up. Would've saved me about 20 minutes running around this stupid club.
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By NINja277 on 30 May 2013 01:13
pinpoint pinpoint advise.....thanks!
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By PensFan4Life71 on 28 Mar 2014 02:01
3 Pinpoints for me .. Cheers guys +1
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By FoolsAndKings on 31 Mar 2014 18:46
Please incorporate NINja277's feedback. I also wasted time trying to do this mission the first time I found the club.
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By PuckJunkie on 06 Jul 2014 22:08
If you dont have the aug to do this you can do pinpoint twice then advise!
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By Tank Force UK on 03 Sep 2011 15:51
You can miss this by triggering the cutscene in the vents by Tong's office, as DrJekl mentioned, and by completing the Bar Tab side mission before speaking to the 'Manager' a second time (just found that out the hard way without a save to revert back to).
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By Grootbuster on 04 Sep 2011 20:03
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Missable! Tong is the Manager in Hive. You can only find him there after you've completed the Story Mission in Hengsha Court Gardens. Do NOT sneak in via the sewers or vents in the back alley because you'll overhear a conversation and Jensen will deem you've achieved your Story Objective. You will need to grab a Hive Membership card in 1st room of the 3rd Floor of Hong Hua Hotel to enter without conflicts. Alternatively you can bribe your way into the club if you have 1,000 credits to spare or just simply threaten the bouncer outside the club.

Tong is on the 2nd Floor Bar and will engage you in Social Battle. The correct sequence varies depending on your playstyle. Possible answers are:

  • Pinpoint, Pinpoint, and Advise
  • Pinpoint, Advise, and Pinpoint.
  • Pinpoint, Insist, and Pinpoint
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*Save*

Note: There's two ways into the night club; Around the back through the vents or through the front door if you have a pass or bribe. Going via the vent route, will give you a cutscene to the location of Tong. This will then make you miss out on actually talking to the bartender and this achievement plus a later E-Book.

In Shanghai, head towards 'The Hive' nightclub. Once inside, head up to bar and ask for Mr. Tong and the bartender will tell you to go upstairs and talk to the other bartender. Once you've found him at the other bar, you'll need to convince him to give Tong's position up. Before you talk to him make a save then start the conversation. Answer with correct reponses below and the achievement will unlock at the end.

  • Pinpoint
  • Insist
  • Pinpoint
     

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Select "Get Attention" three times and the bartender will let you through to Tong.
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28 Aug 2011 12:42

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I just want to add that in addition to the 3rd choice, pay attention, the 4th choice should be advised.
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By Vaan891 on 19 Jul 2012 05:08
Focus attention
Give advice
Focus attention

or

Focus attention
Focus attention
Give advice

(Standard Edition, two expansions purchased, True Deus Ex difficulty.)
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By Dimtyr on 02 Jul 2017 15:25
Playing through the game in 2014, I say: the two tips above are incorrect. At least for the regular version of the game, I don’t know what’s in the Director’s Cut. A hint from RUS IVAN URAL helped me
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By Nesian on 16 May 2014 13:19
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If you have KASI (social corrector), then in the 2nd option you can convince Tong. In the 1st option you need to select “Focus”, and in the 2nd option we use KASI to persuade ALPHA (pacification).
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19 Aug 2013 15:04