Deus Ex: Human Revolution

Deus Ex: Human Revolution

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The Last Straw

The Last Straw

You talked Doctor Isaias Sandoval out of suicide.

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How to unlock the The Last Straw achievement in Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Definitive Guide

You need to choose 3 choices during the conversation these options are for those who don't have the Social Enhancement Augmentation, anyhow these are the choices you need to make:

1) Tough Love
2) Tough Love
3) Inspire

This will make Doctor Isaias Sandoval reconsider and hand over the gun

Edit: For more information Please See My Video below for more help

Please Be aware this may not work for you it all depends on the choices you make earlier in the game !

For those who are struggling with this achievement maybe this will help:
http://deusex.wikia.com/wiki/Isaias_Sandoval - "However in the special case when Jensen gets the information regarding Sandoval's location without publicly confronting Taggart, and thus not exposing his secret to the world, he will not attempt to kill himself but rather directly starts attacking the player with his revolver. This forces Jensen to either kill him or knock him out."

So if Taggart gave you the location in the back room without saying he'd help you find Sandoval while in front of the crowd, this achievement is unaccessible. Make him tell you he'll help you in front of everybody. This game has a random generation of several NPC responses depending on your responses to it so the same responses you give will give alternate responses with the same outcome or an alternative outcome regardless of how it turn out for other players. I've noticed at least three different responses after every pause the NPC takes in some cases. You multiply that by the number of pauses the NPCs take and there's a lot of combinations the game can make. My point is save before your talk to any major NPC.

Thanks to MagnumZero for finding and pointing this out
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26 Aug 2011 11:57

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did tough love, tough love and inspire in the that order and he still shot himself. negative vote for me
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By on 27 Aug 2011 22:36
this didnt even happen for me he instantly fought me instead
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By Lord Kryt on 29 Aug 2011 09:26
@Lord Kryt
Yeah, that happened for me too?! Wtf? I'm on my stealth playthrough and I don't get this discussion with him XD I always just burst into the room?
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By XBU Philippe on 29 Aug 2011 14:17
I believe if you enter his office without making any of the enemies hostile, then it should trigger. Also speaking with him about his brother at the serif building.
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By CitizenSnips 56 on 29 Aug 2011 22:20
Same thing, he always ends up shooting at me. Done it a couple times with different strategies and still the same outcome. Maybe it is something you did or didn't do earlier in the game. Until someone finds out am not doing another playthrough and miss it again.
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By SiNNeR sLoTh on 29 Aug 2011 23:36
Finally got this achievement. The only big difference from the other times was that I killed Zeke in the alley after talking him out of the hostage situation. I also did not talk to Sandoval when I met Taggart in Sarif's office.
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By MagnumZero on 05 Sep 2011 05:25
The wiki is wrong. I got Sandoval's location in the backroom and I was still able to get this achievement. I had the social aug though. I went Tough Love and then the Omega response and it popped for me.
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By gbus on 06 Sep 2011 00:47
I got his location in the backroom, and I didn't have the social aug and I still got it.
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By Braces on 06 Sep 2011 17:55
Tough love, Tough love, Inspire just caused Sandoval to shoot himself in the face.
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By Malazan on 08 Sep 2011 09:58
Same for me. Seems the dialogue choices are influenced by how you got the information and your overall campaign choices!
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By Epsilon Theta on 10 Sep 2011 06:48
I can confirm that using Tough Love, Empathize and Inspire works. Didn't have CASIE or advance information from Taggart.
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By CyberPunch83 on 07 Oct 2011 02:38
@CyberPunch83 that combo worked for me. Also earlier when talking to taggert he didn't agree to help me find Sandoval in public. So if these conditions where the same for you @cyberpunch83 combo will probably help you like it did me.
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By DARKOScannley on 22 Oct 2011 19:42
I got his location without Taggart and he didn't automatically attack me. I also only needed two dialogue options to make him hand over the gun but I didn't note which two they were. I do have CASIE though.
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By DakotaThrice on 07 Nov 2011 17:12
Thumbs up for the info on exposing sandoval to the world. First time around he just attacked me.
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By Zordnil on 18 Dec 2011 14:23
where is sandoval??
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By xMANNY FRE5Hx on 01 Jan 2012 17:11
Tough Love, Empathise and Inspire worked for me also.... Taggart had told me in the back room where Sandoval was...
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By Pookie T on 01 Feb 2012 10:14
FWIW, I did Tough Love, Tough Love, Inspire and it failed. So I went to a save game, did it again, and it worked! Go figure!
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By SneakyStabbalot on 22 Feb 2012 23:52
You had me panicking for a while. I received the information from Taggart in the back room, but luckily I still got this achievement. Tough Love, Empathise and Inspire was the combination I used.

If I may make a suggestion; I would change this guide to include this alternate combination that seems to be helper more people than the original combination has, and also include that while getting the information from the back room can block the achievement, it's not set in stone.
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By Crimson Ridley on 14 Aug 2012 11:20
Taggart gave me help, but Sabdoval attacked me. Reloaded and had the same dialogue choices with Taggart, then Sandoval tried to commit suicide. Doesn't even make sense. but at least I can get it now.
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By GrimaceTheGrey on 29 Aug 2012 19:22
He talked to me just fine in his bunker, but I had spoken to him earlier and learned about his brother's shooting spree, and I had exposed Taggart and Sandoval in public in the convention centre. I think I chose Inspire, Comfort, Inspire. The first option seemed to have a negative impact (his persuasion rating fell to red on the CASIE), but then the next two convinced him to hand over the gun. I didn't use pheremones.

Reading between the lines, maybe the gunfight is a consequence of not talking to Sandoval at Sarif industries when he visits with Taggart?
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By CovetousCash64 on 19 Sep 2012 22:54
Did TL,TL, I and got it +1 from me!
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By Definia on 10 Apr 2013 14:28
Did not talk to Taggart and can confirm that Though Love, Empatize and Inspire works.
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By RegnippauQ on 20 Feb 2016 19:09
1) Tough Love
2) Tough Love
3) Inspire
This works perfectly just sometimes not at first try reload and try again and it works
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By on 05 Aug 2016 07:18
I just looked this up as I was having trouble with it too and just said screw it to finish the game. Recently updated info on Sandoval at the Deus Ex Wiki has revealed the issue.

http://deusex.wikia.com/wiki/Isaias_Sandoval - "However in the special case when Jensen gets the information regarding Sandoval's location without publicly confronting Taggart, and thus not exposing his secret to the world, he will not attempt to kill himself but rather directly starts attacking the player with his revolver. This forces Jensen to either kill him or knock him out."

So if Taggart gave you the location in the back room without saying he'd help you find Sandoval while in front of the crowd, this achievement is unaccessible. Make him tell you he'll help you in front of everybody. This game has a random generation of several NPC responses depending on your responses to it so the same responses you give will give alternate responses with the same outcome or an alternative outcome regardless of how it turn out for other players. I've noticed at least three different responses after every pause the NPC takes in some cases. You multiply that by the number of pauses the NPCs take and there's a lot of combinations the game can make. My point is save before your talk to any major NPC.

ps - update your guide with how to make this available through taggart and I'll take away my negative vote as that's why I voted negatively in the first place.
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By MagnumZero on 30 Aug 2011 14:31
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Credit goes to CyberPunch83 who commented on the last guide but its way down the bottom of the comments.

"I can confirm that using Tough Love, Empathize and Inspire works. Didn't have CASIE or advance information from Taggart."

This is for if you followed him into the back room and followed this achievement guide

Deus Ex: Human RevolutionSecret AchievementThe Secret Achievement achievement in Deus Ex: Human Revolution worth 28 pointsContinue playing to unlock this secret achievement
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worked
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By NE0182 on 20 Jul 2013 12:58
Worked like a charm
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By NameOfTheMaster on 29 Aug 2016 17:52

Missable! Warning! You must either complete The Throwdown or hack Taggart's PC and plant fake evidence of Sandoval as a pre-requisite for this event to occur.

You’ll obtain Sandoval’s location from Bill either by winning the Social Battle or hacking Bill’s computer, BUT you can only convince him if you won the Social Battle against Bill. His apartment is opposite the Chiron Building. You’ll enter only to find it empty. But an entrance into the Sewers is revealed by breaking the wall or using the Circuit Breaker in the bathroom. The Sewers are filled with hostile Purity First members.

Make your way to Sandoval to engage him in Social Battle. Possible answers to talk him out of suicide are:

  • Tough Love, Tough Love, Inspire
  • Tough Love, Tough Love, Emphatize
  • Emphasize, Emphatize, Emphatize
  • Emphatize, Tough Love, Inspire
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*Save*

After you've talked to Taggart he'll tell you, you need to speak to Isaias. Isaias can be found in a small hideout underground. Once you've made your way past his guards and the bombs, save your game at his front door.

You'll be confronted with Isaias ready to commit suicide for his crimes, and he'll pull out a gun to end his life. Your task is to convince him not to go forward with this decision. Choose the following options below to make sure he doesn't kill himself:

  • Tough Love
  • Tough Love
  • Empathize

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Plot .
Order of answers in dialogue:
Cruel Mercy ---> Inspire ---> Inspire
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27 Aug 2011 23:01

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correct it to cruel mercy - sympathize - sympathize, otherwise you won’t see the cup!
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By jason349 on 27 Jan 2013 15:56
In order for Sandoval to reach suicide, you need to go to Taggart’s conference, NOT using a social corrector to bring Taggart to tearful memories (constantly discredit), after the conversation behind the scenes, Taggart will give a speech on TV, Sandoval will see everything and decide to commit suicide. Otherwise, Sandoval will attack you.

It’s not a fact that this particular condition must be met, so save before the conference and try different ways. While completing this trophy, I did not complete any side missions during my current visit to Detroit.
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By INTELLcorp on 02 Feb 2012 08:37
Sometimes a glitch happens that even after winning a verbal duel with Taggart at a conference and receiving information from him behind the scenes about the doctor’s whereabouts, as well as sneaking unnoticed through the sewers to the door of Sandoval’s room, a screensaver plays where the doctor speaks on the phone about hearing gunshots. After the cutscene, instead of attempting suicide, he immediately becomes hostile and starts shooting at Jensen. This glitch can only be cured by loading a previous save from the moment you first return to Detroit from Montreal, or an earlier save (before/after the battle with the boss (Fedorova) in Montreal). It is advisable to immediately go to the conference with Taggart and not complete any side quests until you get to Sandoval.
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By A_D89 on 15 Jan 2016 16:26
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Attention ! It is possible to accidentally miss the trophy! If, during the completion of that part of the quest where you need to find out from Bill Taggart the whereabouts of Sendoval, you do not go to the hall where Taggart will perform, but go backstage and get all the necessary information from Taggart’s computer, when you subsequently find Sendoval, he will not try to kill himself and you will not get this trophy.
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02 Oct 2011 01:59