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L'Cie Paragon

L'Cie Paragon

Earned a 5-star rating for all Cie'th Stone missions.

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How to unlock the L'Cie Paragon achievement in Final Fantasy XIII - Definitive Guide

This is strictly about mission 64. I breezed through every mission except this one. I probably spent 3 hours JUST to get 4 stars. I went back got the Master's Seal achievement. Once that was complete, I read a guide on each character and their abilities.

This fight boils down to two things. 1.Characters 2.Equipment.

1.Characters: This is really important. The whole game I played with Fang (L), Lightning and Hope. After reading math and abilities, etc, i decided that Lightning (L), Fang, Vanille was the best setup for this fight. Why?

You want to buff FAST when he [Impenetrable Aura]
*It is rather odd that only Vanille and Fang get the -ra variants of the buffs, despite neither of them having Synergist as a primary role. Vanille would actually make for a very good Synergist if only she had Haste, but seeing as how everyone else does, she makes for an excellent choice as a secondary Synergist. If you want to use a Paradigm with at least two of these, you'll be able to buff your party very rapidly.

*Obviously, Vanille and Fang are better because they have Dispel, while Lightning and Snow don't. Vanille also has poison. If you look at my Paradigm setup, you'll see that I have Vanille primarly as a debuffer. Right when he comes out of [Impenetrable Aura] switch to #2. Stay on #2 until Poison is cast then switch right to #3.

*You want Light as a healer during [Impenetrable Aura] so you can use Cura, Cura, Cura to TOP OFF YOUR HP. The AI is stupid and will not do this. Use this down time to be in a good position to burn him down.

There is a lot more detailed information about each character in the link below. Go to 3c Party Setup.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/xbox360/950899-final-fantasy-xiii/fa...

Setup:
Light/Fang/Vanille
1. Med/Syn/Syn
2. Rav/Sab/Sab <- Start
3. Rav/Rav/Sab
4. Rav/Rav/Med
5. Com/Com/Med
6. Sen/Sen/Sen

Fight:

Start in 2. Once poison is up, switch to 5... he'll go to [Impenetrable Aura] soon.

Once in [Impenetrable Aura], go to 1. Use Cura, Cura, Cura to TOP OFF YOU HP. Stay in this shift until he comes out of [Impenetrable Aura] and go right into 2. Once poison is on, go to 3. If you need to heal, go to 4. Once he is staggered, go to 5. Pretty easy!

It becomes tricky when he uses [Wicked Whirl]. As soon as you see it, go to 6. Once that is over, go to either 4 or 5 and repeat!

2.Equipment is VERY important. The less time you're healing means you can be debuffing/attacking.
Lightning
Omega Weapon (Lionheart)
Champion's Belt*
Magus's Brace*
Imperial Armlet*
Gold Watch

Fang
Kain's Lance (Taming Pole)
Royal Armlet*
Royal Armlet*
Witch's Brace*
General's Belt*

Vanille
Nirvana (Belladonna Wand)
Royal Armlet*
Royal Armlet*
Witch's Brace*
General's Belt*
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10 May 2010 03:12

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I was able to 5-star this with a relatively low-level party (three primary roles maxed, not much else) by using Vanille, Fang, and Snow and just spamming Poison. SAB/SEN/SEN when he's attacking, MED/SEN/SEN after Poison sticks, SEN/SEN/SEN whenever he readies Wicked Whirl, and cure/buff when he goes into Impenetrable Aura. No special equipment, no Gold Watch, and I never directly attacked him except for Poison.

Personally I think trying to brings RAVs and COMs into the mix just becomes a distraction. Focus on defense and let Poison do the work.
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By Ryuukishi634 on 20 May 2010 14:39
I see. Sorry, I don't remember my time... I want to say it was around 11 minutes, something like that.
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By Ryuukishi634 on 20 May 2010 14:47
Thanks for the people that mentioned poison. Just made sure I had poison on him and just healed. Got 5 stars my first time (after dying 3 times by just trying to pummel him away, would get close but around 40% health, he does a ton of damage). I finished it with a time of 11:17 with max characters and lvl 1 weapons.
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By ZerotypeX on 24 Aug 2010 16:40
cool ive have a max party and max weapons, just need go do all the missions and 5 star them.
Going try this poison method. I'll equipt weak weapons and play it safe, with gold watch it should be very easy
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By TouchMyMinki on 12 Dec 2010 05:45
I am trying to do it this way but 75% of the time he goes back into impenetrable aura before I can even land a poison. Am I doing something wrong here?
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By TetraVega on 28 May 2011 16:18
Can I use these three party members above for all mission including Mission 64?
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By on 06 Aug 2011 03:09
Yes, you should be able to.
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By Solario32 on 19 Sep 2011 13:58
i did everything the same but swopped shift 2 so that lightning was a synagist so i cud poison it quicker

Also, i you have a summon in geist mode it will not go in its shield so will take alot of poison damage if already poisoned so i took a few elixars and wen it was 25-40% i used the summon and in the geist mode got it down to low health used an elixar did it again and it died from poison and got 5 stars. Was stuck in an endless healing loop attempt before i tryed this. Hope this helps great guide thank you.
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By DemonDuffeh on 16 Sep 2012 23:01
I had to do a few things different, but tweaking a bit your strategy to my group I ended up beating him in 7:33 with a maxed party (with mediocre accessories).

What I changed was:
1. Used Vanille instead of Lightning as main, so that I could manually poison him before anything else. In the first paradigm setting, Vanille was the Medic because healing manually during Aura is much more efficient.
2. Changed Rav/Rav/Med to Rav/Rav/Rav and Com/Com/Med to Com/Com/Com. This was necessary to stagger him more quickly and deal more damage once that happened
3. Fang wore Genji Glove and Kaiser Knuckles, which allowed her to hit close to 200k once staggered.
4. I did not use shrouds, but healed casting Renew twice during the fight.
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By DeceivedHornet5 on 16 Sep 2012 23:42
@giga, you should be able to, just find them on their floors where you found them the first time.
The ground floor of the tower is misleading, ignore the statues there
And dammit, 4 starred this guy after dieing on other attempts, at least I have the gold watch for next time
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By Lockerdown3 on 01 Feb 2013 06:32
i followed this to the letter and got the lovely pop sound aswell thanks for a great guide :)
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By mini ak47 on 27 Feb 2013 01:47
No problem! :)
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By MantraPolo on 15 Mar 2013 17:54
I tried the set-up mentioned in the guide, but it when that didn't pan out I went the poison route using Lightning, Fang and Vanille. Only needed 4 Paradigms: 1-SAB/SEN/SAB, 2-MED/SYN/SYN, 3-SEN/SEN/SEN, 4-SYN/MED/MED.

Started w/ 1, spammed poison, when barrier was up used 2 to buff -- rinse and repeat. When he cast Wicket Whirl immediately shifted to 3, then either 2 or 4, then quickly back to 1 before the barrier. Was able to 5-star this w/o Omega Weapons or the Gold Watch.
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By Esphyrian 01 on 24 Nov 2013 13:23
This is a good guide but scroll down. Traveller nicks guide is far easier. Good guides all tho:) thanx for the help.
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By Pizimp2983 on 10 Oct 2014 05:17
Yup, you're exactly right. I think you were able to 5-star it by poison and surviving because you were low level with low stats... meaning the mission points 'bar' was easier to reach.

By the time I attempted this mission I had all roles nearly maxed with ultimate weapons. So, the 5-star was much harder to achieve... I couldn't simply wait for poison to kill him.

What was your target time and kill time? That is another really important consideration. Thanks for adding this, I'll possibly revise my solution based on your party's target time.
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By MantraPolo on 20 May 2010 14:44
I agree with Ryuukishi634. Poison and tanking is a pretty surefire way to 5 star this battle. If you have everyone's ultimate weapon well then just equip some tier 1 weapon and you should see the target time go up significantly. Equipping the gold watch and removing all strength of magic boosting accessories will also help you there.

The first time I attempted this without the gold watch and just poison and tanking my target was like 18:45 and I 4 starred it with a time of like 13:13.

I equipped the gold watch, upgraded all of my damage reduction and had a target time of 21 minutes which I easily 5 starred with an 10:45 time with poison and tanking.This was also with tier 2 weapons. I'm sure if I equipped some level 1 tier 1 weapon my target time would have been even easier.
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By ALollz on 20 Jul 2010 17:21
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A guide that lists the locations of all the missions and their marks:
http://www.gamesradar.com/f/final-fantasy-xiii-cieth-stone-m...

Here is a link to a guide that details all 64 missions and suggestions on how to 5-star each mission:
http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/final-fantasy-xiii/43019-5-...

Good luck on 5-starring the hell out of those missions!
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30 Sep 2010 04:30

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thanks,well done guideclap
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By Gula BABA on 16 Nov 2014 22:12
Your link is broken.
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By One Winged Boss on 13 Jan 2018 03:18
An easy way to do this one, while not the most legit is to Death spam on the Neochu, (mission 55 I think) and on the Adamantoise (mission 63). Those two were the hardest I think. For the multiple Zirtirnia (sp?) you have to fight, use Snow as a sentinel and keep him that way for the majority of the fight. Have your other two characters (I used Lightning and Fang) fight as Ravagers until his chain gauge is up to 400% or so, then have either Lightning or Fang use Army of One or Highwind, respectfully. For the multiple Tonberry fight (don't know mission #) use a Deceptisol before the fight with a Cerberus setup (3x Commando) and spam Ruinga it took me like 17 seconds to finish the fight.

For Vercingetorix, (mission 64) I had each of my characters equipped with at least 1 kaiser knuckle (strength boosting accessory), While my main had 4 equipped (Lightning for the record). Use Commandos in the beginning, because he is going to go into his barrier too fast to build any chain gauge. When he starts using Wicked Whirl, use the Tortoise paradigm (3x sentinel), then heal quickly. at that point he should stay out of his barrier long enough to build a chain gauge. Once you get it up to 250 - 300% go back to your Cerberus paradigm (3x Commando) and beat the tar out of him. It took me a little over a minute and a half this way.

Some people will try to use the genji glove, or build the chain gauge higher during the fight. I have found that this takes longer in the end. Just my advice on a few of the harder fights in the game.
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06 Apr 2010 04:22

"L'Cie Paragon"
"Earned a 5-star rating for all Cie'th stone missions."

If you have already completed all 64 missions and are just going back to 5-star them, the easiest way would be to completely level up your characters crystariums and weapons so they can inflict the most damage and make sure you have the Gold Watch equipped to get the time extension. For the missions that still give you trouble, a Fortisol/Aegisol/Deceptisol start should make any mission easy to 5-star.
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27 Mar 2010 04:16

5-staring every mission can be quite a daunting task, given that a lot of the mission starts are very far from the mark. There a few weapons and accessories you'll want to get before attempting this, especially the higher ranked ones.

Malboro Wand (weapon - Vanille) - This wand is upgraded from the Belladona Wand (bought from Plautus' Workshop). It gives Improved Debuffing II which really helps against tougher enemies that are susceptible to Death.

Aurora Scarf (accessory) - This starts you off with a full ATB gauge at the start of a battle, giving you the jump on your enemy. It is the upgraded version of the Whistlewind Scarf (The Moogleworks).

Sprint Shoes (accessory) - Having these gives you auto-haste at the beginning of a battle. To get them, upgrade a Tetradic Crown until it has a star by it's name. Dismantle the crown and you'll get Hermes Sandles. Upgrade them to tier 2 and you'll get your Sprint Shoes.

(Another way to get the Sprint Shoes is to fully upgrade the Tetradic Tiara, then dismantle it.)

Gold Watch (accessory) - This is probably the most valuable accessory when it comes to getting 5 stars. It will increase the target time of your fights, making it easier to get the 5. To obtain it, you must complete mission 64. Here's a video, if you're having trouble.
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09 Oct 2010 23:48

Mission 64 Strategy~

Despite numerous guides that say it is a must to have capped weapons and accessories for 5 stars, that is not the case.

The fight is very straight up. Here's my strategy that beat it in less time than the ps3trophies guide with capped gear (which is an extremely helpful guide, I'm not knocking it. I just didn't think I would need to spend countless hours farming Gil to cap gear in order to 5 star this fight) with no capped gear, 2 third tier weapons (uncapped), 1 second tier weapon (uncapped) and average accessories (uncapped). However, Lightning did have Sprint Shoes/Aurora Scarf which is very helpful in the opening of the fight.

This fight pretty much boils down to what you do with the down time when the boss is immune (Impenetrable Aura).

My set up:
Lightning/Fang/Hope

Paradigms in my order configuration:
Countermeasure (SAB/SEN/SAB) *Default Paradigm
Tireless Charge (COM/COM/MED)
Tortoise (SEN/SEN/SEN)
Rapid Growth (SYN/SYN/SYN)
Salvation (MED/MED/MED) Didn't use it but good in case of emergency
Combat Clinic (MED/SEN/MED) *Main healing Paradigm

***Special note: When you are in Tireless Charge, click Abilities > Attack and spam it. If you auto attack, Lightning will spam Ruin which will do less overall damage than physical attack.

Go into the fight with at least 4TP, it doesn't hurt to Renew if needs be to conserve time.

Open the fight in Countermeasure, stay in this Paradigm until Poison lands which Lightning (you) will be spamming. Once it lands switch to Tireless Charge, do not switch to anything else (Hope can heal through Wind Shear and Putrescence) until the boss is in Impenetrable Aura (immune and self healing) > switch to Rapid Growth to keep buffs freshed > back to Countermeasure and start spamming Poison again. While you are doing that, Hope automatically erases all the buffs the boss cast on himself once he is out of Impenetrable Aura.

Just repeat this strategy until he starts casting Wicked Whirl. At this point, keep doing what you have been and just add in Tortoise before he casts Wicked Whirl and immediately switch to Combat Combat Clinic for health and switch back to Tireless Charge until he goes into Impenetrable Aura and just repeat the cycle from there on by buffing yourself, debuffing the boss and so on...

The boss is very predictable, just absolutely make certain that Poison is active at all times. Target time was just over 17 mins, my battle duration was 9 mins 23 secs.

Once you get the hang of it, it's fairly simple. I will also add that all my roles are capped. I think that capped roles and timing (how you react/switch Paradigms) are more of an importance in this fight than capped gear, as the weaker your gear is, the more time you are allotted to 5 star the mission. And yes...Make sure one of your chars has the Gold Watch equipped.

Good luck.
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21 Mar 2011 06:35

I do not take credit for the videos.

Mission 64 - 5 STARS EASY! - Please rate my first solution and give feedback if you have time.

I am sharing this as I had not seen a technique like this before. It involves only 3 Paradigm sets and very little strategy. I found this to be the easiest way.

Use Fortisol and Aegisol before battle.

Set up:
Vanille/Lightning/Fang

Equipment:
You should only really need the Malboro Wand or Nivara Wand for the buffing bonus. Seeing as poison does all the work you shouldn't need many powerful weapons either. Just equip as many defensive accessories as possible. Don't use the Growth egg, you get no CP for this battle.

Paradigms set up:
1) SAB/COM/COM
2) MED/SYN/SYN
3) SEN/SEN/SEN

Use Vanille's Poison ability on Vercingetorix as soon as the fight starts. When it sticks, switch to Paradigm class 2 (above) just spam the Curaja spell now. Only use these two abilities. The only reason Lightnigh and Fang are COM classes in setup 1 is so they have somthing to do, they are not meant to do any real damage during this class (though any damage done is a bonus obviously).

Simply wait while the boss is poisoned, attacking him further will make him switch to his defence state faster and removes the poison status. Allow poison to do it's job, it'll work faster than you think! Just focus on recasting it when he comes out of defence mode, and then spam Curja again while he attacks. He won't be able to kill your party and Fang and Lightning will be constantly adding buffs while you heal, making it harder for him to hurt you. You should have maxed out character classes for this so Fang and Lightning have all the available spells to help keep you alive.

Switch to Paradigm 3 when he uses his whirlwind attack. Be quick about it! Then heal and recast poison etc. Keep doing this over and over until he dies; OR until he has about a 1/3 of his health left - then do the following;

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Optional Part 2:
You can use your Summon to great effect if you need to. Summon when Vercingetorix is NOT in his defensive state, cast poison and a few other random debuffs on him. Casting the addition debuffs will help build Vanille's gestalt meter so you can fight longer. When the Eidolon's meter is almost empty jump on it's back. Attack as slow as you can. Use only "Forwards + A" and only when it is just about the run down on the timer. The purpose is to delay as long as possible and allow the poison ability to do the work. During a Summon you can expect poison to remove as much as 4 million HP (maybe even 5, I didn't measure it). If you have an *Elixir you can use your Summon twice, making this battle even easier.

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To get an Elixir, upgrade a Doctors Code accessory with one Superconductor and then dismantle it - be warned there are only 3 or 4 doctors codes in the game so do not dismantle them all unless you are sure you have what you need towards the Treasure Hunter achievement.

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There are two videos below. One shows just the poisoning routine detailed above. The other shows how to do it just using Summon + poison (Part 2 above). I suggest a combo of the two. I used poison and the set up described above until he used his first whilwind, then summoned twice to kill him. First attempt was just over 10 minutes and 4 stars. 2nd attempt (without Gold watch) was a bit quicker and 5 stars.

If you fail at 5 stars either try again with the watch equiped or reload your save so you don't loose the Elixir!

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Again, I just wanted to share the video below as it doesn't have many hits on youtube, yet is VERY USEFUL!

Video 1)

Video 2)
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19 Feb 2013 23:18

This is a tip for all missions,, not just mission 64 as I see most people focus on. also as just my opinion.. mission 64 isnt even that hard, beating it will almost garentee you 5 stars.

anyways, as for what I had to do with some missions being really hard to 5 star due to low target time is simple, kill adamantoise / Long gui for platnium ingots if you need the gil for Deciptol, which sell for 30,000.

Use that and the other shrouds for buff before any mission you struggle with and you should be able to 5star them all no problem.

If you do finish Mission 64 you will get Gold Watch which extends battle target time, this will be of great help aswell.
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25 May 2011 01:43

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Well all these guides are fairly helpful, yet I managed to find a cool web page to help find all the missions (locations of stones and objective points)

http://wikicheats.gametrailers.com/Final_Fantasy_XIII_-_PS3_...

Not only do they have that but it tells you the best order to accomplish the missions in for success. As for other stuff they cover everything through a "Walkthrough" to "Side Quests" to "Battle Tips".

I hope this helps you out. I know it has been helping me.
Best of luck,
~~~WOLF~~~
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18 Jan 2012 01:46

Except for the first two videos, this playlist contains videos on how to achieve 5 stars for every mission.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0YQ_pvn0ps-5P07M49qp...
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19 Jul 2017 03:45

I would just like to mention that it is possible to 5-star all the missions with basic, non-upgraded Tier 1 equipment without using the Gold Watch, if you don't mind using Shrouds, Death or Random Instant Chain for a few of them. It's hard for the later ones, but I actually managed to 5-star half of them before I left Chapter 11.
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26 Jan 2016 22:36

For this achievement, you will need to earn a 5-star ranking for all 64 of the Cie’th Stone Missions. Many of these missions will come quite easily, while some can be very challenging.

For lower difficulty missions, you will want your characters to be Role Lv. 5 in their 3 main roles. For the higher difficulty missions, make sure you characters are at max role levels for all 6 roles and are equipped with tier 3 ultimate weapons.

There are a few items that you will want to get before attempting: Fang’s “Lance of Kain” (Highwind), Vanille’s “Nirvana” & “Marlboro Wand” (magic accuracy for Death). “Dash Shoes” give auto-haste, which will give you an advantage.

Make use of smoke abilities to try to sneak attack and get preemptive strikes. They will give you a significant advantage. Also make sure you make use of Vanille’s Death spell, which can insta-hit kill enemies (low accuracy), and Lucky Break, which will randomly inflict Break Status on your enemy, however it is unreliable.

Lucky Break:

  • Equip character with a Tier 1 or Tier 2 weapon that is "Break Disabled."
  • Equip character with one of the following accessories: Accel Sash, Energy Sash, Easy Choice.
  • Lucky Break" will appear in the character's list of latent abilities.

Mission 55:

 
The Cheap Tactic -

Neochu isn't immune to Vanille's Death, and can be used to kill him off quickly. To do this, it is imperative she has either Nirvana or Malboro Wand, and if at all possible, 2000+ Magic Stat. Using smoke to get a preemptive strike will also help. When the battle starts, spam Death until he dies, then switch to Optima #2 or Optima #3 and kill any enemies remaining. The video shows a successful execution of this tactic.

Mission 64:
 
 
Leader: Fang (Lance of Kain, Dash Shoes)
Member #1: Vanille (Nirvana or Malboro Wand, Dash Shoes)
Member #2: Hope (Nue, Dash Shoes)

Paradigm #1: Saboteur/Saboteur/Sentinel(Default Paradigm)
Paradigm #2: Commando/Medic/Sentinel
Paradigm #3: Medic/Medic/Medic
Paradigm #4: Synergist/Synergist/Synergist
Paradigm #5: Sentinel/Sentinel/Sentinel

Power Smoke, Barrier Smoke, and when the battle starts, make sure to stick Bio and De-Protect on him. Because of his high HP, Bio will do significant amounts of damage and should be kept on him at all times, especially since he'll heal himself in between rounds. Once those two debuffs are on, switch to Optima #2 and attack with Fang until he switches to his defensive mode. At this point, switch to Optima #3 to heal yourself and then Optima #4 to rebuff. Then the cycle starts over from the beginning: Stick Bio/De-Protect, then attack him with Fang while one member acts as Defender and the other is healing him/her at all times. Once the boss falls under ~9 Mil. HP, he'll throw a massive attack into the mix which will significantly damage all members; at this point, as you did in the Long Gui battle, switch everyone to Optima #5 (Defender/Defender/Defender), then switch back to wherever you were in the Optima #1-4 cycle previously.
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This is similar to Galuf's Grail, except you need to earn a 5-star ranking in all 64 missions. 5-star rankings are earned by getting a battle score of 13,000+. Completing a battle in under the Target Time will yield 10,000 score, and any extra time under the Target Time will add to the score. Scoring a Pre-emptive Strike on an enemy will yield a 1.2x bonus to the battle score, so this can help exponentially with scoring high enough for a 5-star ranking. One thing to note, however, is that with stronger weapons and accessories equipped, the lower the Target Time will be. Essentially, all you want to do is defeat the enemies as quickly as possible, with weaker weapons if possible.

If you find yourself struggling to attain a 5-star ranking on any of the missions, you can equip the Gold Watch, which is obtained from completing Cie'th Stone Mission 64. The Gold Watch will increase the Target Time considerably, making it a lot easier to attain a 5-star ranking on the battles.

Please see the Final Fantasy XIII Cie'th Stone Mission Guide for more details.

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