Guitar Hero: Van Halen

Guitar Hero: Van Halen

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Double Bass Master

Double Bass Master

5 star all Van Halen songs on Drum Career. (expert)

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How to unlock the Double Bass Master achievement in Guitar Hero: Van Halen - Definitive Guide

What can I say other than this is going to take some practice. Like the description says you only need to concentrate on the Van Halen songs for this achievement, meaning if you want this achievement the quickest you'll have to play two guest acts in addition to the Van Halen songs at the minimum.

Difficulty-wise the drums for Van Halen are VERY easy for most good Expert drummers, being nothing at all like GH:Metallica. Only the final tier of drums were more difficult and even that wasn't much. The only songs I didn't 5-star on my sightread were Jamie's Crying and Loss of Control due to the cymbal rides in certain spots. I'm not very good at alternating from the yellow pad to the red pad on my rock band drumset, but when I played them on my guitar hero drumset I 5-starred Jamie's Crying easily and got Loss of Control after a few tries. The important thing in most drum songs is learning the bass beat--if you can do this, you'll get this achievement in no time.
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12 Oct 2009 14:51

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Yeah i know that, it's just the bits where it does the double Ride cymbal parts, the chart is exactly the same as World Tour Isn't it?
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By SteSteSte91 on 19 Apr 2010 13:07
I'd assume, despite the name of the achievement, that you can do this on Expert (as in no +)?
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By The Nerevarine on 04 Nov 2009 19:10
Correct.
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By Zacry072 on 04 Nov 2009 19:26
Isn't Hot For Teacher hard? lol! I probably couldnt do this because of that :\
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By SteSteSte91 on 18 Apr 2010 18:53
The intro is rather bothersome for most, but the song itself isn't the worst on this game probably. It's much more difficult on Expert+.
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By Zacry072 on 19 Apr 2010 05:07
Yeah i know that, it's just the bits where it does the double Ride cymbal parts, the chart is exactly the same as World Tour Isn't it?
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By SteSteSte91 on 19 Apr 2010 12:59
It's been a while since I've played it, but I would think it wouldn't stray far from what World Tour's chart was.
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By Zacry072 on 19 Apr 2010 18:43
Hahaha..perhaps. Nothing a little elbow grease (who am I kidding..a bucket of elbow grease) can't handle.
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By Zacry072 on 14 Jul 2010 11:46
I need help with Ice Cream Man. The song only has about 500 notes, there's very little room for error, and there's just way too much bass. I dunno how to do it.
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By ajmurray on 22 Jul 2010 02:28
One question what happens if i have played some songs only on Expert + do i have to to play them on just expert or do they stack?
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By finallife6 on 18 Jun 2011 12:28
I would assume they stack.
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By Zacry072 on 18 Jun 2011 12:31
@finallife, yes they are stackable.
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By T BarMonkey on 12 Sep 2011 02:55
I Got 5 stars on all expert drum VH songs and no achievement. Any ideas why?
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By Richjn11 on 29 Jun 2012 04:32
Cleared cache got it
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By Richjn11 on 29 Jun 2012 05:15
Glad it popped for you!
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By Zacry072 on 29 Jun 2012 11:58
Thankyou
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By Richjn11 on 29 Jun 2012 19:31
I found "Loss of Control" easier using the RB drumset. The disco beat is slow enough that you can lead with your left hand, which might make the bass pedal notes easier to hit. It's still a really difficult song, though.
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By Groudon199 on 19 Aug 2013 17:41
Is anyone else having trouble with Eruption on expert + ? It's mostly drum fills and no matter what I do I can't do better than 4 stars. Is there something I'm missing ?
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By Cyelwin on 18 Sep 2015 01:04
During the fills, mash all 4 face buttons on the kit while repeatedly using the pedal.
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By Groudon199 on 18 Sep 2015 01:29
How do you use a RB kit for this if it has no orange symbol??
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By Shadykilla420 on 14 May 2016 18:16
I'm stuck on Loss of Control, Hot For Teacher, and two others. The first 40 songs were easy to 5 star, but even with a lot of time spent practicing these four, I'm not quite at the cutoff.
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By Manb3arSquirrel on 14 Oct 2017 15:16
Boy oh boy is this tough! I can 4 star Hot for Teacher on both Expert and Expert+, but I barely make it. It's so hard for me to keep my combo!
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By SchiZoPHreNiikz on 25 Dec 2017 08:37
Achievement won't unlock cry
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By Snook410 on 28 Apr 2018 17:16
Lol Zacry, didn't see that this was your solution till now. Hot For Teacher Expert+ chart looks like it would strike most normal people dead on the spot. Just sayin'.
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By Dingo Salad on 13 Jul 2010 06:08
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I finally got this after countless amount of tries on "Loss of Control" and I just have 3 pieces of advice to add:

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Loss of Control; after trying a countless amount of times, I went into practice mode and practiced the "Walkie Talkie Rock" section, (3 yellows + 1 snare),then after fully practicing that and learning the exact hand movements, I went back to career and got the 5* on my second attempt.

To do this MY hand placement was;
Right hand plays the 1st and 3rd Yellow (which also have a bass).
The Left hand plays the 2nd yellow (with a bass) and the Snare.

The 2nd Yellow and the Snare are the only notes that you should look at/think about when you try to keep on time while playing this section.

This section becomes a lot easier when you are only focusing on hitting those 2 notes on time, the rest falls into place naturally. (which is why you practice)

So practice that part and make sure you can be solid, going into it and out of it, also being strong in the Outro helps.



During the ride section, there's a Red+Blue followed directly by a Red Yellow, then a bass right after that, this part might be a reason you are losing streak.

If it is, be sure that you always hit the Red+Yellow very quickly, this can help you get the bass that follows directly on time. Also it will help a lot to have this down for the Outro.

So your left hand should be hitting the Red twice very quickly when playing that part.



As for StarPower, I always used it during the ride section, just because the ride section was a lot easier and felt more natural for me. I could always keep a consistent combo on it.

In my 5* run, I didn't 100% any section, and I missed twice during StarPower.

So, you really don't need a great score, just try to be consistent and eventually you will get a good run.



Tip: If you've been trying 10-20+ times in 1 sitting, what mighty help is try putting it on HyperSpeed 5 (going into 2 players with HyperSpeed 5 can help a lot too because that makes it even faster), play 1 song, then switch to 0 Hyperspeed, and play 1 song.

The abrupt change in speed totally messes with your perception and sometimes this can help you see notes easier and play better.

(I used this method a ton of Through the Fire and Flames, it's really neat how it works sometimes.)


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The intro to Hot for Teacher might be giving some people problems, and if it is there's a pretty easy way to beat it.

At the beginning, just focus hitting the green notes at a fast even pace, and keeping the bass on time.

When the blues start coming what you want to do is just hit the Greens with your right hand at a fast even pace, without looking at them or thinking about it.

With your left hand, keep the Blues on time and the bass on time.

By doing this, you are only focusing on a small amount of notes and the rest of the notes are being hit automatically without much thought, which should be enough to keep you from failing off.


Getting 5*s on the song shouldn't be much of a problem, just notice that sometimes the notes are before the bass pedal, and on these sections make sure you play those notes early so you can get the bass pedal to register.

(if you are having problems with that section, make sure you nail it on this song, because it happens endlessly in Loss of Control, and you will need to be able to combo it to get 5* on Loss of Control.)



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Whatever you do, just to avoid yourself trouble/possible glitches, DON'T try playing the songs in career on Expert+.

When I first 5*'ed Loss of Control the achievement didn't pop (even though it was the last one I needed).

I had to replay Hot for Teacher (Which I know I've 5*ed many times) and luckily, it unlocked after the first time I re-5*'ed Hot for Teacher.

This could be because of Expert+ scores, it still says 4 stars on Hot for teacher Expert+ and 5 stars loss of control Expert+, (even though I've never accomplished 4 or 5 stars on either of those songs in Expert+)

Anyway, it might mean nothing, but if this achievement is a pain for you, it wouldn't hurt to be cautious.
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09 Nov 2013 18:21

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Great guide. Loss of Control was definitely the hardest track for me; that beat is really damn fast.
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By Anno Mundi on 14 Oct 2019 14:50

Start a drum career on expert and finish every VH song in the game with 5 stars. Again, there's no easy way to get this. Alex Van Halen has a very unique drumming style, and it's represented well in the game. "Hot For Teacher" and "Loss Of Control" are by far the two most difficult songs to 5-star. Finding a second person to work the kick pedal while you hit the pads will help, but you'll both need to practice quite a bit.

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