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The Despair Creation

Defeat The Child Details for this achievement will be revealed once unlocked

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How to unlock the The Despair Creation achievement in Othercide - Definitive Guide

TymanTheLong

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14 Aug 2020 03:24

The Child is the boss of the 4th era/week. As usual you will discover him on Day 4 and must face him by Day 7 if you haven’t already.

In the previous boss guide I warned that the full week included enemies that you might find unkillable at that point. While week 4 enemies are much harder you probably want to run the full week for the best Memories you can get. With that said, for your first run focus on Hunts from which you can escape if they’re not going well. You may not want to run every mission as it’s better to arrive at the boss with enough juice to prevail rather than run a few extra missions.

Click the spoiler tag for details.

I am going to preface this solution with the caveat that I am less comfortable about this strategy than my previous boss guides. The main issue is that I’m not 100% confident in my set up recommendations or that you might not end up suffering more damaging hits than I did due to the sheer randomness of his AOEs. I’ll update this as I come to a better understanding of how The Child works.

The Child is a teleporting boss that uses a ton of AOEs. Most guides will try to convince you to dance around his AOEs and never go into Burst in order to stay alive. I say that’s bad advice, you can out-DPS The Child pretty easily.

I went in with Scythedancer (11) and 3xSoulslingers (12, 12, 8). I think this was the wrong composition. My Scythedancer barely got in a hit and, it turns out, The Child has no armor. The only useful thing the Scythedancer did was provide an Interruption, as 3 out of 4 classes do that and Shadow Round is still insanely good why not just go 4xSoulslingers? A Shield Bearer would be better than a Scythedancer but Saving Grace won’t actually land her near the boss so still not great.

You may have figured out the same thing as me by this point: Resurrection Tokens provide much more value during a run the later that you use them. I.E. the only way to heal my level 12 Daughters before this fight was to sacrifice 1 to the other and then resurrect the sacrifice (you lose your attached memories upon death so make sure you can replace what you’re losing). If you’re running 2 teams through the week you may have enough extra level 8-10 Daughters to heal your lower level draft picks. The downside of this is you may end up with less than ideal Traits. With the strength of the really strong memories you’re likely starting to loot this will probably be okay.

Wait until you’re about to fight to attach any very powerful memories you find (e.g. 60% skill damage) as it’s not always possible to know how things will stand after a mission.

As stated The Child doesn’t have armor nor an armor buff. So all those armor debuffing memories on Ghost Round should be replaced if they’re still there from previous boss battles, preferably with Sever (25% skill damage). I also will caution against Initiative Pushback memories as I don’t know how they’ll interact with his teleport, which you need to happen so that most of his AOEs will actually miss you without having to move. Really this strategy is about maximum DPS so attach memories that maximize DPS, you can go back to cute tricks after the fight.

The Child spawns at the top left, like The Maid and The Deacon. Your Daughters all spawn on the bottom right and one spawns approximately half a continent away from the boss. To make matters worse The Child doesn’t have a normal movement so you can’t line anything up based on how far he can move. You do need to do your best to get your 3 closest Daughters about 8 squares closer than your furthest. If you’ve used Interrupting Round and Shadow Round a lot you probably noticed line of sight limitations for the former and distance limitations for the latter. The good news is that line of sight isn’t an issue on this map. The bad news is that distance is. Do what you can to make sure that every Daughter has at least 2 others that can lend Shadow Round damage for every activation of Shot. You will have to sacrifice Shot activations to move, but do so to achieve position on The Child, not to avoid the AOEs unless you can do both (his star AOE may not cost you a Shot to move out of as you may have 110-130 AP on a few Daughters by this point so do move on that one if it’s not costly as it goes off fast).

As always when activating Interrupting Round and Shadow Round every turn, going into Burst saves HP and killing the boss 2 turns earlier saves 30% HP, so taking 1-2 AOE hits is a savings or a wash at worst. You could get very unlucky but really with 4xShadow Round and 4 extra potential Shot activations you should kill him as fast or faster than I did. ALWAYS ACTIVATE THEM FIRST THING, remember that Shadow Round triggers off of other Shadow Rounds so it’s both more damage and less chance you’ll forget to put them up.

So The Child has phases and he teleports either based on his phase transitions or damage done (I’m not really sure which but you should get the same behavior either way with high DPS). This means almost all his AOEs will go off after he teleports. Since he always faces bottom right and so do his directional AOEs that means just stay put and hammer him. Again, only move enough to get in range of him and some supporting Shadow Rounds. He does have a checkerboard pattern AOE in one of his late phases, you won’t probably get to move out of this one, it hit only one Daughter for me (luck) but it was actually a laughable amount of damage (250 or so) so just take your lumps and hammer him on his way to salvation. Remember, you brought the hammer-metaphor equivalent of a sledge hammer so don’t panic.

His teleport spots seem to form a rough oval around the mid upper portion of the map (roughly 5-7 top left of where your closest Daughter could Burst to after warping in). This is surely affected by your own movement, as long as you’re not dancing much out of his AOEs he should never get too far from most of your Daughters.

Finally The Child’s ranged single target attack always targets the further Daughter. Keep that in mind if you’re running low on Interrupting Rounds.

You should see him go down with around 50% life remaining on most of your Daughters and you’re achievement will pop.

An alternate strategy suggested by uhKillswitch is to quickly level a few Daughters to 15 for access to their ultimate skills. You can read their comment below or click on the spoiler below for a summary.

14 Aug 2020 03:24

5 Comments

The Soulsingers' lv 15 skill that boosts damage by 100% for every daughter does wonders.
I brought my Scythedancer and 2 Soulslingers to level 15 by killing the maid around 20 times. The daughter who gets the kill gets around 2500xp the other ones around 1600.
No need for any memories just intercepting shot and shadow round. I used 3 SS and one SD. Have two SS close to each other and one standing alone by herself.
The lonely daughter uses shot so the others can get backstabs or flanked shots in.
After reaching level 15 on two of my SS and the SD I started a new recollection.
I gathered some memories that have initative delay for the enemy and put them on shadow round and if I had enough on intercepting shot as well.
If you have memories that let your daughters act sooner put them on the SSs' skill that boosts damage by 100% (lv15).
Another enemy delay memory goes on your SD's harvesting skill.
With that setup you are set for every boss of the game including the final one.

By uhKillswitch on 14 Aug 2020 13:55

Harvest certainly sounds like like it rocks. I can’t wait to get it. I’d like to try it with Quietus attached. In the meantime I intend to stick my only Quietus on Deadly Dance.

By TymanTheLong on 14 Aug 2020 22:14

Following the devs on Discord the initiative. delay stacking is considered an exploit because you can stack it indefinitely.
It will be patched. So if you want an easier time especially with the all bosses in one recollection achievement hurry up :)
Once you have the lv 15 daughters remeberance at least healing your daughters gets easy.

By uhKillswitch on 15 Aug 2020 07:55

So my fancy strategy of using Blacksmith’s Grace to never let the final boss have a turn won’t work anymore? Darn.

By TymanTheLong on 16 Aug 2020 00:45

I can't find the dev's comment anymore about patching it but they wanted to do something about the delay exploit.
This is one of their comments from discord:

Thanks @Hagosha - we are working on our 2nd patch now and some of your comments are actually included in regarding more variations in maps and mission types.. there will also be some sweet new gameplay mechanics

By uhKillswitch on 16 Aug 2020 06:58

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