Red Dead Redemption (EP)

Although freelance's stradegy can work, the AI can vary it took me a good 10 tries to get this; here's a couple tips that should help:

It comes down to luck a lot but having higher numbers are good because the AI thinks it more rare to get higher numbers so use those to your advantage, but be honest.

Coming off from the first hint I found it good to never bluff and just be honest the whole time and say what you have cause the AI, depending on how it acts, will often call a bluff.

I got it when I was just playing against one person, it makes the game much quicker and easier to predict what is true and what is a bluff.

Pay attention to previous bids, one time the AI called that there were 2 threes and then a turn later said there were 4, so clearly he was bluffing. So pay close attention to the bids as you may catch a slip up.


Most of all I just wanna reinforce that you should really do this with just one opponent as it becomes vastly easier.

*Edit* When I played, there was only one player at the table. It was later at night, so the tables might be thinner then.

The way I got this was by playing at Thieves Landing. The Liar's Dice Table is in the corner of the saloon, by the blackjack table. All I did was just say how many of a certain number I had (I never bluffed), and the guy I was playing called my bluff every time.

While doing the stranger mission "Lights, Camera, Action" you will be tasked with winning a deed from a guy playing liars dice in thieves landing. Use your property in thieves landing to save your game then go to the saloons liars dice table, If there is more then 1 player there reload your save and try again until you get just the 1 player ( the guy for the mission ). it took me 5 reloads before i got just the one player.

Once you start playing the best tip would be to not bluff unless you have to. The AI wasnt to smart and it took me just a few minutes to beat him, get the deed for the mission and unlock the achievement.

Also, On a side note. the following is from Red Dead Wiki:

Each round of Liar's Dice in Thieves' Landing during "Lights, Camera, Action" will cost everyone at the table a whopping $200 -- ten times the normal ante amount. Because you can ante indefinitely, this is the single most profitable opportunity in the game. You can spend real hours amassing a ridiculous fortune. (Playing for the better part of the day yielded this editor over $50,000.) To maximize your profits, the best strategy is to ensure that you're playing one-on-one with deed holder Lyle Mouton. Chances are another man might be at the table, so if you save before entering the saloon and keep reloading that save, you'll eventually be able to land a match with Mouton alone. You may periodically get up from the table to engage Autosave to preserve your growing earnings, and Lyle will stay seated for you to repeatedly join him at that $200 ante. As long as you don't leave the saloon and save elsewhere, Lyle (and his awful AI strategy) is there for the taking, indefinitely! Once Lyle leaves the table and the mission enters the Spatchcock phase, antes return to normal.

Hope this helps

in addition to what freelance and bricoli said. if you are unsure if the AI is bluffing or not on his bid, try using R stick an bidding on a different face die that you have, an pay attention to his next bid. this is where you can catch him slippin. he will either bid off of your die or his orignal face die. if he goes back to his, its usually a bluff. and if he bids on your die, usually its the truth.

First of all, this game is a little easier to win when it is 1v1. I got the achievement in a 1v1v1 game, though, so it is possible to do it with more than two players. In fact, the AI tends to beat themselves up when playing with more than one, giving you a good chance of keeping your die while they lose their own to each other.

The strategy for liars dice is to either call opponents bluffs or predict their bid as being true. Doing either of those will cause them to lose a die. If you are wrong, i.e., you call a bluff but there are at least as many die as they bid, then you lose a die. You also lose a die if you call a "Spot On" and there are not exactly that number of die. Declaring a "Spot On" is a risky move but depending on how the game plays out, it may be a wise choice.

For starters, when you are making a bid try to remain truthful. I have never had the AI call "Spot On" on me. If they bid too high for you to remain truthful, examine your die, take into account how many they have on the table, and figure if it would be safe to fugde a bid, call their bluff, or , in rare, CALCULATED cases, declare a spot on.

As your opponents die count drops the game becomes much easier, letting you spot obvious bluffs. If they say there are three 6's on the table and they only have two die you know they are lying.

If you lose a die I would still recommend playing the game out. The more you play the more you understand the game mechanics and the easier it becomes.

It is actually a fun parlor game to play and waste time as well.

This achievement is fairly easily won in the right circumstance. The difficult part is finding the Liar's Dice table with only two other players.

Once you have found the right table, simply play conservatively and keep track of how many dice each player has left. In the beginning makes your bets based on what you have in your cup and let the other two raise from there. Generally one will call bluff on you for what you know you have or call bluff on your other opponent

If you don't go first, pay attention to what the other two bet. It is rare for them to bluff on their first bet, so they likely are telling you what they have. Add what you have of that number to their bet and place that bet.

Once you get ahead by a couple dice, the above strategy plays out very easily. The hardest part is just making it through the first couple rounds. Later in the game you are more likely to need to use the "exact bet" wager. If the player before you makes a bet you don't know you can beat, don't bluff, just call it as exact. More often that not you'll win and both opponents will lose a die.

The other strategy to remember is to just sit down with enough to play through several games. If you lose a die, don't quit but play it out. It will help you refine the strategy. In addition, at the end of the game you can replay against the same number of opponents if you don't stand up.

I was able to get a game of Liar's Dice with just one other person late at night in Thieves Landing. Early on I would be honest with what I had and the AI would sometimes get a bit high with the guess of the number of dice. Once the AI was down to a couple of dice they would guess a number of dice that wasn't possible to be on the table. Was able to get it on the first try.

I don't claim any credit for this advice, but it works and is found on the Red Dead Redemption Wiki (reddead.wikia.com)

First and foremost, it is far easier to win at this game when playing against only ONE opponent. The dynamics of bid escalation, guesswork, and AI tendencies make it so that your best chance in this game lies in a simple duel. After all, this game involves mathematical probability; it's easier when the table's total dice count is 10 instead of 15. Also, it's easier to read one mind rather than two.
Note that NPCs rarely, if ever, call out a bluff on bids lower than four of anything. For example if you bid that there is at least 3 fives, the NPC(s) will rarely ever call out that bluff. It may be different if facing only one NPC.

The exception is if they don't possess at least 1 die of the face value you are betting on, even if you're betting there's 2, they will say you are bluffing. This leads to one of the easiest winning strategies (for one on one especially) which is to just tell the truth and bet whatever doubles/triples you have, most of the time they lack a dice of the same value and will call your non-existent bluff, leading to an easy (and reliably repeatable) win. In a game with 3 players, if they DO have a die of the same value, they will raise the bet to a higher value and almost always get called bluffing by the 3rd player, either way resulting in your dice laying untouched.

When bidding, seek out multiple dice with the same number, i.e. three 4s, and bid what you have. If you haven't got any multiples, bid one of your singles. It's often good to bid on your lower dice, to leave headroom for subsequent bids to cover the higher-valued dice (i.e. if you have 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, bid there is one 1 -- if the opponent bids two 2s, because you have a 2 yourself, you can then either call spot-on or raise the bid to three 2s if you think there's another 2 out there).

The best approach is to bid what you have (or one less than what you have) and avoid bluffing -- avoid guessing (or hoping) your opponent has one more of the die you need. Although, sometimes the NPC might surprise you!

NPCs very often call your bluff, not believing you when you say you have 2 or 3 or more of a particular die. They may also be forced into an obvious bluff (i.e. you bid three 6s, then they jump the bid to five 6s).

NPCs rarely, if ever, use the Spot On bid, so the player can gain a sizeable advantage by learning to use spot-on properly. It is confirmed that, at least in one-on-one matches, your NPC opponent NEVER uses the spot-on bid!

If you can get your opponent down to one die remaining, the game is in the bag. The NPC will ALWAYS bid the value of their die honestly during their initial bid. Their bid's quantity might vary between one or two, but the bid's face value is always the truth. If they bid one 2, they have one 2; if they bid two 4s, they have one 4. Therefore, if they bid two 6s and you have one 6 yourself, you can successfully bid spot-on because you know the total is two 6s. If they bid two 6s and you have none, by the process of elimination you know they are lying. If they bid two 6s and you have three of your own, you can raise the bid to three or four 6's; they will either either erroneously call your bluff, or raise it to an impossible amount where you'd know they were lying. Also, if you have a pair of something other than the value they bid (i.e. they bid one 2 and you have two 4s), bid on your pair; they will always erroneously call your bluff.

In summary, because NPCs often call bluffs they shouldn't, and they often make their own obvious bluffs, and they NEVER (at least in one-on-one matches) use spot-on bidding, and their endgame strategy is awful, as they will always say what they actually have as their last die, and so you can either go spot-on if you don't have the same die or if you do raise the number, and then the NPC will raise again, which doesn't make sense so this game can easily be mastered.

In addition to the advice of other guides, this is much easier 1v1.
Lasso and hogtie any extra players, then sit at the table to win against the remaining NPC.
Other NPCs will only draw their guns when using a lasso, if your Fame and Honor are positively high enough.

Surprising this isn't mentioned in the other guides and it's May 2018.