SUPER BOMBERMAN R

Update: I have found new info that makes it hard to determine the real best way to go about this, so read through and come to a decision on what's best for you. My critical path method is solid and will cut it down to roughly 200 hrs plus load times, maybe less. Thanks to the people who have contributed thus far. I know it's not the most concise solution but I like the progressive nature of it so I'm leaving it as is.


Alright, here's my take on this. As Angry Kamehameha points out in his solution, this will take a long time. I don't recall exact numbers, but I believe my average time to clear old school was around 1:20-30 seconds. At 11,000 matches at 1:30 a match equals out to about 283 hrs total.

The alternative I propose is to buy the critical path stage for 4000 gems. You probably already know about using power zone to grind gems quick if you need to, but you have to do the million blocks/bombs anyways so if you want to grind it out the slow way that's up to you.

Now the main reason I suggest critical path, is because it drops penetrating bomb and max fire power ups, making very short work of clearing the entire stage. I've had the whole stage cleared in under 30 seconds with favourable power ups at the beginning.

For the logistics, the map only has about 70 blocks, but takes an average time of closer to a minute if we're being fair. 1mill÷70=14286 games is about 14286 minutes at 1 min per game. ÷ that by 60 for a total of 238.1 hrs. It's not much time saved overall, but every bit helps in a grind like this.

So for the set up, I went with the following.
Rules: Battle Royale
Player: 4p
Com level: Off
Sets: 1
Time: 5
Start Position: Fixed
Revenge Carts: Off
Pressure Blocks: Off
Skulls: Off
Special Abilities: On

Under normal maps, select critical path once you have bought it.
Turn on your second controller and select whichever bombers you want.

Clear the blocks, kill player 2, rinse, and repeat. Forever.

If you don't have a second controller, you can still do this, but not as effectively since you will be facing a com. Set com to weak and only include one cpu opponent.

Also some info on gems. It seems to me you only get gems at the end of the match if you:
1) Kill the other player
2) Get killed by the other player
3) Survive for more than 1 minute before ending the match(even by suicide).

Comments that I feel are better placed here:

If you put more sets, would that save some loading times? Also what is your general clearing strategy, because I can never clear all blocks in 30 secs. I usually find the max flame power up quickly, but the penetrating bombs are always late to show...
Posted by Fuuldrin

Yes, more sets equals less load time, if I had to guess maybe 5 seconds of spamming a after a match. Part of the reason I use one set is to get the 150 gems after every match to buy stuff since I didn't want to grind power zone out forever.

The 30s I only pulled off once or twice. 40 seconds is more reasonable. I've had other games run about 1:20 where it didn't give me extra bombs or penetrating bombs until the very end. Hence why I said more like a minute if we're being fair.

General Strat is to bomb back and forth starting down first to open up the first 2 blocks then right to hit the one, then down to hit the 2 blocks, then right to open more of the top path. Keep going back and forth like this hitting as many double blocks as you can. Extra bombs can speed this process up until you find penetrating bombs and hopefully a max fire. From here it's just cleanup. Destroy all 3 vertical rows. I try to lay a bomb on the second tile from the top above p2. That will destroy that whole row and stop just before p2. Lastly, run down the middle dropping bombs to destroy all horizontal rows.

Hope this helps.
Posted by Shadykilla420

Fuuldrin also mentioned using plasma bomber. You can buy him in the store and you'll need him for the 5 dastardly bombers achievement anyways. His special ability with the A button drops a bomb that detonates faster. This can help speed things up, but be mindful of it. You don't have as much time to run away, so sometimes regular bomb is the better option. I'm not 100% if these bombs count towards bomb progress but one of the current people with the achievement confirmed that it does. Also, once you get the penetrating bomb, only use regular bomb. The penetrating bomb doesn't apply to plasmas A button bomb.

I just tried plasma bomber myself and I've already managed a 20 second clear. Have a 23 second and 27 second clip on my profile if you care to check those out. 23 second is here:

Plasma bomber also brought my average time down quite a bit. If I had to guess, between 40 and 50 seconds a match, maybe better. But being generous with a 50 second average brings the overall total down to just under 200 hrs.

Czesio83 also mentions using draws at the end of matches to save small load times, but this is if you don't care about getting endgame gems, which I imagine alot of you don't.

Newest info:
1) Make an 8 player game instead of 4, but still only include your 2 controllers. On 8 player, critical path has more blocks, as well as 3 penetrating bomb and max fire power ups instead of 2 giving you a slightly better chance of getting them early. I am pretty sure with a solid clear strategy this will speed things up even more, despite it taking longer to clear the stage. The 8 player stage has about 86 blocks and I've done it in under 30 seconds a few times with different paths, each making a few mistakes, so there's potential for maybe a 25 second match. One of my 29 second runs on the 8 player map is here:

2) Credit to Bum Bum Yuck for testing and confirming that blocks your local coop partners destroy do indeed count towards your total as well, so if you have the friends willing to do it and 2-8 controllers, this would most definitely be the fastest method if combined with the above strategies, although even having one person help would speed it up significantly.

The achievement is self explanatory. You just need to destroy blocks in MP, Online Battles, and Story modes.

I feel that the stage 'Old-School' has the most destroyable blocks on it.
Through 10 games I got these numbers

game 1 = 81 blocks
game 2 = 85
game 3 = 91
game 4 = 86
game 5 = 85
game 6 = 90
game 7 = 89
game 8 = 90
game 9 = 90
game 10 = 87

Totaling 874
874/10=87.4 blacks average per match.

Now the real number that people would want.
1,000,000/87.4=11441.65

To get 1 Million blocks destroyed, on the stage 'Old-School' only. You need to play 11,442 games destroying and average of 87-88 blocks per match.

I'm not sure if you play against the CPU if their blocks destroyed count, as they need to destroy 10,000 blocks before it would show up as 1% on the tracker.

I'm also not entirely certain that, if you had multiple human players, all Bombers playing contribute to the same total or not.

If a different stage has more destroyable blocks in it in the MP, let me know and I'll look into unlocking that stage and testing it out as well.

Edit: Math was wrong in one place
Edit 2 : Some grammar

***Turbo Controller Method***

Set-up a 1 or 2 player multiplayer game with the following settings:

Rules: Battle Royale
Player: 4P
COM Level: Off
Sets: 1
Time: 9
Start Position: Fixed
Revenge Carts: On
Pressure Blocks: On
Skulls: On
Special Abilities: On

Pick any Level & Bomber Types and when the game starts set controller 1 to turbo the A & B buttons. Doing this will result in Player 1 dropping a bomb down and killing themselves instantly, followed by the game automatically picking 'Battle Again' and repeating the process.

Following this method will also unlock: