Ascend Hand of Kul

Ascend Hand of Kul

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Master and Commander

Master and Commander

One of your Ascended Champions defeated another player

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How to unlock the Master and Commander achievement in Ascend Hand of Kul - Definitive Guide

This is easy, this is how you do it. After you have ascended at least once, you go to your main map, hit right trigger and it will bring up the crusader map. This is where you can pick an altar that you CONTROL, key word there, and send your ascended character there,. You can send them multiple times and to more than one different location. Sooner or later you will get it.


EDIT: Making sure to gear your warrior before ascending, will help the process too!

credit to Zelinktheone
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27 Sep 2013 07:53

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My best tip is make sure you are currently in control of all your shrines and altars (meaning they are aligned to your current god and not a previous one) and then take a break.
The game will send your champions out randomly when you're logged out and almost everyone says they got the achievement when logging in and not while playing. So take a day off, play something else, just don't log in for 24 hours and then see if it unlocks for you the next time you log in.
Since you keep all your ascended even after transcending, you don't have to worry about starting from scratch. The reason it seems to take so long to get a fight while you're playing is that you don't automatically get set up, but are put in a queue and eventually your champion is sent to do battle.
With the amount of people playing and all the champions in creation this can take quite a bit of time. And then more than likely if when you get impatient you send your champ somewhere else or to the same place again, you get placed at the back of the queue and start the wait all over.
People who've played the beta make it sound like this should be quick and easy, but remember they were playing with a significantly smaller population, so getting fights was faster and earning wins came quicker.

Trust me when I say this will come, but it'll happen when you least expect it.
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By Saracin on 15 Nov 2013 11:46
Very useful information, have an upvote. First time I sent them somewhere they both died, second time I got this.

What makes me laugh though, is the underequipped scrub I ascended at level ten when I knew nothing about the game has three kills, while the one I ascended next with a really good weapon has none. Heh O_o
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By LV 1 Blue Slime on 27 Sep 2013 16:29
yeah it is pretty random the stats that they generate, my lower level guys are dong better than my much better geared and leveled guys
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By Pulssse on 27 Sep 2013 17:54
I must a got lucky Cruz i ascended 1 time save and quit and next time i turned on the gfame this achievement popped first thing.
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By SlothAttack on 28 Sep 2013 01:41
You are bound to kill someone else even if it takes 10, 20, 30+ deaths. Just make sure when you are about to ascend, gear up your guy properly. Me and Pulssse have been grinding the hell out of this game and plan on potential videos once we transcend.
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By ZelinkTheOne on 28 Sep 2013 03:23
proof that it can be easy to kill someone gyazo.com/4b28366e39829bd1578f96bf6e6f0268
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By Pulssse on 30 Sep 2013 03:04
Thank you for this. You would think they would explain something as important as this once you ascend a character.
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By THRACE 462753 on 01 Oct 2013 08:57
I think this achievement is no more unlockable. I'd try many time to send my chaos but nothing happen no kill no death :(
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By Maas Pain on 14 Nov 2014 16:11
Same here. I only have a couple of fights for each champion. Does anybody know if Signal will fix it? I read on their forum that other players had the same problem, so they are aware of that.
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By OlivierL57 on 17 Oct 2013 14:42
I too am having this problem. I have 6 ascended champions and everyone of them is either 0-2 or 0-3. And the stats haven't budged in quite some time. I might just transcend before I get this.
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By SPYAGE on 01 Nov 2013 21:12
I am taking over lots of points, especially my lvl 5, but no battles. Everybody has at the most two fight and therefore two deaths.
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By XEN610 on 06 Nov 2013 15:26
I finally got this. I farmed up the XP & souls at the Ring of Bones. When I transcended, I have several souls to upgrade my first Caos on my second run. I started it with green level equipment. When that Caos hit level 6, I upgraded his spell to max and his equipment to five. As soon as I ascended him, it sent him somewhere because the achievement popped within five minutes. I would strongly suggest your odds are going to best with a lower level character and Void.
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By XEN610 on 20 Nov 2013 13:36
Well none of this stuff worked for me really....so I spent $10 got 70,000 souls. Figured I'd support a good game too.

Bought purple everything added one fire rune to weapon.

Upgraded cool down on seeker spell and two uses.

Ascended, bought pillars for all purple equipment.

Now didn't change any equip because if you dont select anything your guy ascends with the equipment you placed on the pillar.

Went to map after new character..... Sent my guy to invade a spot on the third area.....30 seconds later achievement pops!

So yah I spent $10 but I got the achieve, supported the game, and now I have some bad ass equipment as well.
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By on 26 Nov 2013 05:27
So I go to crusade map and I do not have any option to send my ascended warriors to any shrines. Owned or otherwise.
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By Tatakai no Kami on 17 Dec 2013 04:35
Not sure but I think the update changed this....Sometimes I can send them and sometimes I can't now....its really odd!
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By on 17 Dec 2013 05:09
So I go to crusade map and I do not have any option to send my ascended warriors to any shrines. Owned or otherwise.
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By Tatakai no Kami on 17 Dec 2013 10:43
I can only invade other shrines--I can't go to ones my faction controls.
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By Frankie DrumsNY on 26 Jan 2014 04:42
It has been noted that manually sending your ascended caos to points you control actually takes longer then if you just let it do it's automated thing.
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By Xenolith666 on 06 Feb 2014 20:09
So what are you supposed to do this in, Global or local crusade? Global is always 100% dark side and I can only invade, I've be trying to take over the local crusade (mainly the begining areas) to see if I can get a lower level to get murdered there.
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By S4LUT3t0LUN4CY on 28 Mar 2014 02:16
on the local crusade, you have to own the shrine in that area. then you go to global and tell your ascend character to invade that certain spot
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By Pulssse on 28 Mar 2014 02:26
nothings working, the lame ass matchmaking keeps throwing mismatches at me (my level 25 vs a level 32 now), I don't even bother because I see people ignoring my caos and I keep having my areas invaded by higher levels (so I guess they're killing my caos with no issues), just makes XP farming at the Ring of Bones annoying now
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By S4LUT3t0LUN4CY on 30 Mar 2014 01:01
Please lose once to my ascended warrior if you see him. Trying to get this achievement before servers close :(
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By Solario32 on 25 Aug 2014 19:31
Can someone help me get this achievement?
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By LegoMaster93 on 26 Aug 2014 19:09
i don't understand, i have sent my ascended warrior to multiple locations multiple times, still it has not had a single battle. no kills no deaths.
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By itz waz me on 27 Aug 2014 06:56
i need help too ...
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By Andre BigBoss 2 on 28 Aug 2014 05:59
Yep, also not working for me. I'm at level 30 and ascended 5 or 6 times. None of my warriors fight just one time. I'm also sending my warriors to lots of locations. But nothing works to pop that chievo.
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By Giincee on 12 Sep 2014 11:22
This guide is out of date, read SK Diabolic guide instead, manually dispatching caos now has a huge wait time. It's also the lucky of the draw who you get sent to so could be a player who no longer plays.
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By S3M James on 27 Sep 2014 16:26
Someone please lost to me. I'm ULND1 and my characters are named Limi or Limiwinks! Thanks!
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By ULND1 on 01 Nov 2014 15:48
my champions dont seems to get into any battles, any suggestions? ive sent them countless times to each altar and shrine i control but nothing seems to change the stats for any champion i control :S. other than one altar controlled for one champion my other champions stats are completely blank.
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By DARKASSASSINO07 on 14 Oct 2013 04:22
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SERVERS CLOSED!
SERVERS CLOSED!
SERVERS CLOSED!

This achievement is pretty much luck-based, for the most part our champions get sent out to people who don't even play the game anymore or simply ignore our invasions.

If like me you're having trouble getting this to pop < EDIT: got the achievement finally, please join my gaming sessions which I have put up for each month until server closure, Out of the 90+ players in the first session (Sept) I managed to run into 1 player and help him out, about 40 guys have now been getting the achievement from that previous session so it seems (or not) we've ran into eachother on the rare occassion, but it's better than nothing right. I really hope we can all get the achievement before it's too late!

Papa Smurf U session:
Boosting Gaming Session for Ascend: Hand of Kul

Tips:
-NOTE: There is not enough time left to mess around with this tip!
Taking a 48hr or even a week long break with a whole bunch of altars/shrines captured (locally) increase the chances of you're champion being sent out.

-On occassion you will see a random players gamertag in the top left corner, telling you that you're champion has took one of their altars/shrines; if you are fast enough to remember that gamertag you can send them a message or try to have a chat and see if they are willing to help with this achievement; most of the time these guys don't speak english or don't even have the update to get back on the game lol but you never know you might run into somebody with a high gamerscore or completion.

-You should farm The Battlements or another with god dungeons (It has Light, Dark and Void) dungeons for champions, if you use a mask boost to enter another alignments dungeon and start to run out of time you can simply save and exit; however this game takes ages to load and occassionally the servers will mess up and send back to the main menu again but it's worth a try.
Around 90% of the time you will find champions 5 levels above you and they will be the exact same alignment of that very dungeon.

-Try to just die to everybody and spread the achievement around because you never know some people might not know TA exists and want this achievement too, and kill them after to open a slot for somebody else.

-If you're ascending, switch gods to have every single altar/shrine spawn fresh invasions of you're previous god.

-Upon ascending or transcending you're champion immediately gets sent out to fight, so check that top left corner as usual.

-If you really want to play, use a dummy account and you might find yourself and others easier; this has to be gold of course or at least on a 48hr trial.

-I recommend you bookmark/save this thread and look at it regularly:
Please lose to my ascended warrior :)

Any other tips please comment!
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12 Sep 2014 16:19

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"Don't play the game too much, It's been proven that manually invading is close to useless."

Can't this be avoided by simply choosing not to manually invade, or are there other benefits of not playing the game too much (other than point #1 of taking up to a week off with all local points captured)?
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By VegaDark541 on 12 Sep 2014 17:28
Good updated guide for this achievement. Not sure about the don't play the game portion because as long as you aren't manually invading, it should be ok.
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By Solario32 on 12 Sep 2014 19:04
^Yeah kind of rushed some of this guide, just wanted to get something up that's up to date that's all.

But yeah manually invading just put's you at the back of a very, very long list.
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By SK Diabolic on 13 Sep 2014 07:02
When you come back from being away for awhile, does the achievement pop on the main menu or when you start the game?
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By mudder85 on 17 Sep 2014 07:57
I believe when you start the game, I'll see what happens on saturday... I've been offline since the previous friday, so I could be due the achievement now (hopefully).
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By SK Diabolic on 17 Sep 2014 07:59
SK Diabolic, Might want to add that as soon as soon as you Ascend or Transcend that caos is sent out straight away to take a shrine or alter. Of the 14 caos I have now created only two have battle players, one each and both where killed by them.

There are a lot of kids still playing this game as it's a free game and most of them will just attack your character on the spot. The more times you Ascend and Transcend the more chance you will get lucky and unlock it by the luck of the draw.

With that in mind I advise trying to make your caos as nasty as possible, so it least stands a fighting chancing.
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By S3M James on 23 Sep 2014 11:27
hope my posts helped
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By WJS Osiris on 24 Sep 2014 06:55
Just got the achievement, ended up just messaging the last three people my caos stole a shrine from. One nice fellow got back to me and got killed by my caos.

When you ascend your caos will be sent out straight away, so watch the top left corner of the screen after you ascend and make a very quick note of the players name that appears.

Manually invading is a waste of time, also the ring of bone has a huge wait time for dispatch. Just let your caos go out on their own and they will be sent out about twice a week or more. The more caos you have the better your chance you will fight someone. This is a nightmare achievement to get.
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By S3M James on 27 Sep 2014 16:22
Just got that achievement yesterday after I captured all shrines/altars (locally) a few days ago. Just logged in yesterday evening and achievement popped up. Thanks SK Diabolic for your tips
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By Giincee on 02 Oct 2014 07:08
2nd bullet point under your tips worked for me. Thanks. smile
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By SilentQ1989 on 08 Oct 2014 22:55
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First thing to know is that the game can also send your ascended out to fight while you're offline. Most people I talk to seem to get this achievement when logging in, so there might be issues with sending guys out to fight right now. Best bet, take a day off from the game and come back 24 hours later to see if they had any success. Wait until you have maybe 4 ascended though, so you have better odds.

One thing people don't think about when ascending is what spells they want their ascended to have. Whatever 5, or less, spells you have equipped will be what they use all the time. I've fought a lot of ascended and the best spells to have are AOE, Meteor Storm and Black Hole being two of the best. These spells can eat away at an unwary players HP before they notice.
Main thing to keep in mind is that what works on AI controlled enemies and ascended doesn't always work the same on a real player. Seekers is good due to it's damage, but Ionized Bolt and Fireball only fire one shot and the effect they have doesn't seem to do much. You might also want to have a buff spell from either Light or Dark equipped. And don't try to be cute with Confuse, it's close to useless.

In regards to runes I might suggest health runes for armor, since +AC runes don't change the damage from spells and health runes seem to appear in chests regularly. The best option would be to buy runes that give 25% resist to a particular spell type, Dark, Light or Void. Low levels I'd opt for Dark resist, then a little of everything later. By the later levels you'll be seeing Gold stuff which has 2 slots, so you can really stack the resists. Non-Elemental resist is useless though since only basic trolls have that kind of magic.

Weapon rune wise I'd suggest either Spell enhancement or Crit runes. A chance for double damage will always be more useful than a 15 to 30% damage increase. Try to keep your weapon to something small and fast as opposed to something big. You only have to hit one person, not a horde of enemies. Also legacy gear will stay equipped to an ascended champion and also carry over to a new Caos, so don't skimp on good stuff for your champ.

Hope this can help some people improve their win/loss record, or at the very least win 1 fight lol. This can be a somewhat luck based achievement, but I'm sure with patience anyone can get it. You have to Ascend 8 times while going for the Transcend achievement, so I'd say the odds of you not getting this achievement are pretty low. If you are getting close to transcending, get together a set of Gold armor, put on a bunch of resist runes and a spell boosting weapon and you might have enough.

EDIT: And in case you aren't aware, you do keep your ascended champions when you transcend, so this achievement is not missable in any way.
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06 Oct 2013 21:29

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just got this today, I,ve ascended once and have done nothing to send my ascended out to fight, so yes looks like the AI does it for you.
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By S J ELWAY on 20 Nov 2013 16:36
Yeah, I believe the best way is to definitely take a 24 hour break. I finally just did that after I got 5 Ascended Champions, and did just that and it unlocked. Got exactly one kill which is all I need anyways haha. XD
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By ThaDevilzHand on 04 Dec 2013 22:17
Please lose once to my ascended warrior if you see him. Trying to get this achievement before servers close :(
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By Solario32 on 25 Aug 2014 19:33
I merely suggest 24 hours as an example. You could just play and try to get the other achievements and this might unlock at some point.
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By Saracin on 16 Nov 2014 02:02
Does it need to be a full 24 hours? Can it be like 9 hours?....Trying to knock this out before the servers go and my clock is running dry :(
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By UnholyHeadbangr on 16 Nov 2014 00:26
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First thing to know is that the game can also send your ascended out to fight while you're offline. Most people I talk to seem to get this achievement when logging in, so there might be issues with sending guys out to fight right now. Best bet, take a day off from the game and come back 24 hours later to see if they had any success. Wait until you have maybe 4 ascended though, so you have better odds.

One thing people don't think about when ascending is what spells they want their ascended to have. Whatever 5, or less, spells you have equipped will be what they use all the time. I've fought a lot of ascended and the best spells to have are AOE, Meteor Storm and Black Hole being two of the best. These spells can eat away at an unwary players HP before they notice.
Main thing to keep in mind is that what works on AI controlled enemies and ascended doesn't always work the same on a real player. Seekers is good due to it's damage, but Ionized Bolt and Fireball only fire one shot and the effect they have doesn't seem to do much. You might also want to have a buff spell from either Light or Dark equipped. And don't try to be cute with Confuse, it's close to useless.

In regards to runes I might suggest health runes for armor, since +AC runes don't change the damage from spells and health runes seem to appear in chests regularly. The best option would be to buy runes that give 25% resist to a particular spell type, Dark, Light or Void. Low levels I'd opt for Dark resist, then a little of everything later. By the later levels you'll be seeing Gold stuff which has 2 slots, so you can really stack the resists. Non-Elemental resist is useless though since only basic trolls have that kind of magic.

Weapon rune wise I'd suggest either Spell enhancement or Crit runes. A chance for double damage will always be more useful than a 15 to 30% damage increase. Try to keep your weapon to something small and fast as opposed to something big. You only have to hit one person, not a horde of enemies. Also legacy gear will stay equipped to an ascended champion and also carry over to a new Caos, so don't skimp on good stuff for your champ.

Hope this can help some people improve their win/loss record, or at the very least win 1 fight lol. This can be a somewhat luck based achievement, but I'm sure with patience anyone can get it. You have to Ascend 8 times while going for the Transcend achievement, so I'd say the odds of you not getting this achievement are pretty low. If you are getting close to transcending, get together a set of Gold armor, put on a bunch of resist runes and a spell boosting weapon and you might have enough.

EDIT: And in case you aren't aware, you do keep your ascended champions when you transcend, so this achievement is not missable in any way.
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06 Oct 2013 21:29

5 Comments
just got this today, I,ve ascended once and have done nothing to send my ascended out to fight, so yes looks like the AI does it for you.
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By S J ELWAY on 20 Nov 2013 16:36
Yeah, I believe the best way is to definitely take a 24 hour break. I finally just did that after I got 5 Ascended Champions, and did just that and it unlocked. Got exactly one kill which is all I need anyways haha. XD
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By ThaDevilzHand on 04 Dec 2013 22:17
Please lose once to my ascended warrior if you see him. Trying to get this achievement before servers close :(
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By Solario32 on 25 Aug 2014 19:33
Does it need to be a full 24 hours? Can it be like 9 hours?....Trying to knock this out before the servers go and my clock is running dry :(
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By UnholyHeadbangr on 16 Nov 2014 00:26
I merely suggest 24 hours as an example. You could just play and try to get the other achievements and this might unlock at some point.
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By Saracin on 16 Nov 2014 02:02
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This might work for people who are grinding the Ring of Bones and still need the achievement:

At the end of each run, when you go to the map screen to warp in again, quickly hit the right trigger and invade the shrine next to the xp farming spot. Make sure you have plenty of long distance spells, such as seekers, fireballs, etc. Your character will be able to hit other players with projectiles while they are fighting waves of enemies, and I assume most players will ignore you and focus on getting xp. This is how I got the achievement, and I've died a few times farming for xp from other invaders. I know it's a shot in the dark, but it might work and it doesn't take you much extra time, since you're already going to the map screen every minute or two.
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