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What the Butler Saw

What the Butler Saw

Complete the Wayne Manor AR Challenge as Batman without using any gadgets or taking any damage.

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How to unlock the What the Butler Saw achievement in Batman: Arkham Knight - Definitive Guide

Alright this is a fairly simple achievement to get. You need to load up the WAYNE MANOR predator map and play as BATMAN.

The key thing here is to not take damage or use any gadgets. The first part of that, no damage, is pretty straight forward. If you see your health bar appear, you've been hit. Time to restart.

As for the gadgets, this is EVERYTHING. None of your toys accessible by the D-Pad OR your grapple! That's right no grapple! (That includes in takedowns as well. So make sure they're all silent or fear takedowns.) Also, if you get spotted, no dropping smoke! Detective vision is good to go.

UPDATE: Seven years ago when I did this, and I'm assuming for most others this was not an issue, I used Detective vision and got this. However, I think it is worth noting that someone has commented that they made three attempts and the achievement DID NOT pop until they didn't use Detective vision. So if you're having issues, this might be it.

The easiest way to do this, I've found, is right off the bat head to the right and wait at the corner for the jammer thug. He will walk into the doorway. Let him get into the doorway a couple steps and silent takedown. You'll notice the medic thug has come in the room through the opposite door. Move along the wall quickly and then silent take down him from behind. You'll notice the heavy gunner thug move past the doorway behind you. As soon as you can head out this door and into the grate. Be quick. Eventually the remaining 3 normal thugs and the gunner will pile up around the first body once the gunner finds it. The gunner will leave before the other guys giving you a chance to sneak up under them and take all three down in a fear mult takedown and flee up the stairs before the gunner can get back to you. (This will probably be the trickiest part but it's not that tricky) After that it's just a matter of sneaking up on the gunner at your leisure.

Obviously there are many ways to do this, but this is what I found to be the quickest and easiest.
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26 Jan 2016 18:09

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thx for the clearing out that the grappling hook is also a NO NO. cause i've used it many times to get to the vantage points and at the end of the challenge, no achievement. and after reading your solution, i got it. so thx and you have a +1 vote from me :D
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By Luku38 on 27 Jan 2016 11:57
Great, thanks for this guide. Wasn't sure if i could use the detective mode but thanks to you i did this in a few tries!
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By Pr0style NL on 30 Jan 2016 13:19
Just FYI I did this and one of my silent takedowns (that I initiated by hitting Y) used my grapple and I did not earn the achievement. I did it again and made sure I was very close to enemies and then it unlocked.

So it's even "don't accidentally use gadgets."
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By sm4k on 31 Jan 2016 05:34
Yeah, it's in the OP. That's right no grapple! (That includes in takedowns as well. So make sure they're all silent or fear takedowns.)
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By Dr Gonzo 815 on 31 Jan 2016 08:43
I downloaded the DLC, exited to the "account picker" screen, started up the DLC, and did everything right. I did the room four times and the achievement didn't unlock. I even did two playthroughs without using grates and detective vision just to be super-thorough. No achievement, and I also noticed my results weren't being posted on the Friends Leaderboard. So, I powered down my console and tried it again. It unlocked on my next try. This may be obvious to some people, but it wasn't to me. HTH.
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By Lt Davo on 06 Feb 2016 04:27
Oh man!!!! You deserve WAY more than a +1.............your text guide made it a cakewalk!!!!!
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By Warboy925 on 09 Jan 2017 03:20
For anyone having problems, don't use the cape stun, it counts as a gadget. I did it twice without popping where I cape stunned the gunner then punched. Third time exactly the same with no cape stun and it popped. Not sure about cape glide.
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By Gamerjnb925 on 05 Apr 2021 00:29
right off the bat
I'm assuming this wasn't intentional but this is a fantastic pun
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By GuitarHeroAero on 13 May 2021 02:20
Does the detective vision count as a gadget then? I'm assuming yes.
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By Tayll016 on 08 Jun 2022 12:48
It states in the guide that you can use Detective Vision.
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By Dr Gonzo 815 on 16 Jun 2022 07:35
Thanks. Nice guide. I needed to read the achievement (take no damage) for it to pop. LOL
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By Captain Chao5 on 21 Dec 2022 12:49
i just did this 3 times in a row didn't unlock until i did it without detective vision.
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By H8Bomb on 09 Jan 2023 16:59
Huh. I'll update the solution to include your experience.
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By Dr Gonzo 815 on 12 Jan 2023 04:51
You can use detective vision! Nothing else, no grapple
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By Apolarcat on 08 Apr 2024 15:54
Came here to give an update
My first takedown was a corner one, but the one you use the grappler cause the guy is away, when i finished the room the achievement popped, so i think its safe as long as its part of a animation
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By Kalixto on 15 Oct 2023 20:06
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This achievement is fairly easy. There are 6 Thugs total, one with big gattling gun. One of them got detective mode scrambler, but after taking him out, it should be easy. You can still use your detective mode, it doesn't count as gadget. Just do silent / fear takedown and beat up the big guy and you're good to go

[UPDATE] As people stated in the comments, you can't use grapling hook for this achievement
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26 Jan 2016 13:25

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No grappling hook?
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By DAN NUFC on 26 Jan 2016 15:23
In my download able content it still says coming soon. Anyone else having the content not available yet?
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By studlybambi on 26 Jan 2016 15:31
i can confirm: you cant use the grappling hook.
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By Hydrolex on 26 Jan 2016 15:36
@studlybambi it usually takes a while to unlock ingame. download it from the store. works fine.
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By Hydrolex on 26 Jan 2016 15:38
Thank you Hydrolex. That worked.
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By studlybambi on 26 Jan 2016 15:57
done this 3 times now, used grappling hook first time but not 2nd or 3rd, no pop, I'll try again, not sure where i'm going wrong
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By Cookman86 on 26 Jan 2016 16:10
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Solutions above or below are very good for getting achievement. I just make a video if someone like to see it in motion :)

There are 6 Thugs in area
- Silent and fear takedown are allowed.
- Can't use gadgets at all even grapling hook.
- Can't take any damage.

Good luck!!

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/SPEEDY85%20PL/video/14496414
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04 Feb 2016 23:05

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Video is unavailable.
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By psybOltOn on 28 Dec 2023 00:00
Load up the Wayne Manor predator challenge. You can't use any gadgets or take any damage. No grapnel, nor anything on the d-pad. Detective mode is OK. Should your life bar appear in the top left corner, you've been hit and should restart.

There are six enemies on this map including a gatling gun enemy. There isn't too much to this one, Keep detective vision on at all times and use silent takedowns, leaving the gattling gun enemy until last.

For me, I went to the right almost immediately and took out the guy by the piano. Using those stairs I went upstairs and took out another enemy. At that point, the bodies were being discovered. Using the stairs became less stealthy; so I used the vent in the main lobby towards the back, once in there, you can access a ladder to get upstairs as well. From there on out, it was just a matter of doing silent takedowns on the other three regular enemies, then doing a beat down on the gattling gun guy. Remember, once you start the beat down on him, you will have to watch out for instances when you need to counter.

For those of you who prefer a video, see below. All credit to the original poster.

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27 Jan 2016 17:40

In this predator challenge, there are a total of 6 thugs roaming the manor; one of which is a Brute wielding a Gatling Gun and another standard thug with a Scrambler Pack. You'll need to take all of them out while never taking damage or using any gadgets. The Grappling Hook is off limits, though Detective Vision is okay! If you accidentally get hit even once or use a quickfire gadget due to instinctual reflex, restart the challenge. 

Strategies and preferred pathing involved in this challenge will alter from player to player, though it's important to know that you should always save the Brute for last! They can only be taken out via Beat Downs and if taken out while standard thugs are still remaining, you will definitely be caught in crossfire during your Beat Down. For a dedicated video solution on this achievement, please refer below! 

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Both conditions must be met, video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpOEu2q-SiQ
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26 Jan 2016 23:32

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Batclaw and detective vision cannot be used
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By item112z on 28 Jan 2016 12:42
Yes, the mistake in the description is not “or”, but “and”
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By Bair-M on 13 Jun 2016 07:58
You can't use a cloak either, I was wondering why the trophy didn't drop, but it turned out to be due to an attack with a cloak
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By klifer on 24 Jan 2017 23:32
I passed 4 times, as it seemed, meeting both conditions, but here’s the thing, you can’t use a grappling hook!
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By DaTre on 08 Feb 2017 20:20
You need to get through without taking damage. I used only detective vision and a terrible decisive multi-hit. Only one condition needs to be met.
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By pinosha on 14 Jul 2016 05:37
I used only detective vision and a terrible decisive multi-hit. Only one condition needs to be met!
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By pinosha on 14 Jul 2016 05:38
It was possible to obtain it after two conditions were met. Before this, I did it several times without damage or without gadgets separately, and did not fall out. Apparently you can use certain gadgets, but not just any.
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By LL1 on 09 Jun 2019 14:17
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The description is a little wrong. In fact, both conditions must be met. That is, do not use any devices and do not receive damage. The Bat-hook cannot be used either!! You can use detective vision.
The achievement is not difficult, unlike the others from this add-on.
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28 Jan 2016 17:16