Batman: Arkham Origins
62 Achievements
1,300
40-50h
Predator Paragon
Take down 6 different Elites in a match, using 6 different methods as Batman or Robin in multiplayer
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How to unlock the Predator Paragon achievement in Batman: Arkham Origins - Definitive Guide
- silent takedown
- inverted takedown
- drop attack
- dive attack
- explosive gel
- grate/vent takedown
- corner takedown
- ledge takedown
p.s. i have removed the double takedown because it voids the achievement progress as its only counted as 1 takedown and not 2. full credit and thanks to IDarK+VorteXX.
these are some of the methods we used to get the achievement so hopefully it's of some help to you guys.
also doing these will also help progress towards the 'know thy enemy' achievement.
cheers
I held a boosting session to get this achievement and all 8 of us were able to get the achievement in 35 minutes (most also got the Know thy Enemy achievement for killing all opponents as well).
What we did:
1) I hosted the game and used Wonder City Robot Factory for the level.
2) Told all Elites to meet at the Lightning Control Point.
3) I then assigned a takedown to each person and told the person (Hero) getting the achievement which takedown to do.
4) The order of the takedowns were:
-Silent takedown
-Inverted takedown
-Grate takedown
-Corner takedown (Don't do it on the box at the control point, it can be done on either side of the opening to the bridge - one is a wall, the other is next to a generator type thing)
-Sonic batarang takedown (exploding)
-Explosive gel takedown (I assigned the explosive takedown for myself so I could watch as the Hero did all the necessary takedowns).
5) Achievement pops 5-10 seconds after last takedown.
IMPORTANT NOTE: whenever an elite was killed, they stayed well away from the lightning control point so they didn't get killed again.
The reason I picked the lightning control point is because there is an inverted takedown point and grate close to each other. The other takedowns are easy to do near the contorl point, just make sure elites aren't standing too close to each other for the Sonic Batarang and explosive gel takedowns.
It is also possible to do a ledge takedown (underneath the inverted takedown point there is a ledge). You can also do drop attack ground takedown, but we didn't use these takedowns.
This can be done as Robin. I was actually Robin when getting this achievement. BUT - you cannot do the sonic batarang takedown with Robin. Instead, I did a ledge takedown (as mentioned above).
I can also confirm that the takedowns DO NOT have to be done one after the other. On our first run, someone got mixed up in the elites that hadn't been killed and got killed twice. I kept a list of the takedowns each person had performed so we knew which takedown they had to do. Batman got 8 kills in the match, but still go the achievement even though he performed the explosive gel takedown twice in a row. If this happens, get the intimidation metre down by killing the Hero not going for the achievement.
Although I think it is possible to get it for both of the Heroes in one match, we let the heroes win the game by killing the elites a few more times and started another match because it was a bit quicker.
After the first person getting the achievement got it, I told everyone to opt out so they would stay as the same character and the second hero could then get the achievement. After the second person got the achievement, nobody opted out so it picked two new heroes. The third and fourth person then got it; it's like doing it in pairs. When someone had the achievement and ended up in a faction, they opted out in order to ensure others who needed to be hero had a better chance of being one.
I hope this helps as I have read has been a bit glitchy for some people. But all 8 in my boosting session managed to get it first time.
Any questions? Leave a comment or PM me.
Comment from Mindful Force that this can be achieved with 7 players in the lobby.
This achievement can be done either in the Invisible Predator Online game mode or the Hunter, Hunted game mode. I recommend the Hunter, Hunted game mode as it is the easiest.
Lobby Setup
For this achievement you will need at least 7+ players including yourself. If you have dummy accounts, that might be a recommendation to ease the congestion.
Whoever is the host needs to go into "Create Private Game" from the Main Menu and make sure Mode is Inv Pred Online (Invisible Predator Online) or Hunter, Hunted and the recommended map is Chemical Plant. Keep "Map Rotation" Off and then click "Start Game".
Here you need to use your and invite your group into the game until it is full with the people. Once you have enough people you can start the match. If anyone get's disconnected during the match, the match will continue but they cannot return to the game as invites will be disabled.
Boosting Method
If you are doing this in Hunter, Hunted game mode, you can easily end the matches faster as everyone will only have 1 life each instead of 30 shared out. This will make the achievement less confusing and you only need 7 people to do it instead of 8. The drawback though is you will only get 7 minutes to go for the achievement instead of 15 minutes.
You will have to either be Batman or Robin. If you have 8 people then one of you will spawn as Robin as well as Batman, giving 2 people the opportunity to go for the achievement.
For this achievement you will need to all meet up somewhere on the map and whoevever is the Hero needs to get a unique kill on each of the 6 opponents that are in the match. 3 of the opponents have to be Joker Team and the other 3 have to be on the Bane Team. The achievement will pop once the requirement has been met, but it is known to be glitchy and will require another attempt from scratch if needed.
List Of Attacks You Can Do As Hero Which Credit Towards Achievement. These are related to Batman so Robin's attacks may be different...
Vent Attack: Find a vent that you can jump into by holding down the button and pressing . Usually you would find one nearby one of the Control Points. Get one of the opponents to stand nearby the vent and when your close to it, you can press the button when prompt to take a kill.
Dive Kick Attack: You'll need to press to grapple onto a loose hook. Then wait for an opponent to be nearby. Wait until you can press to dive kick and then go ahead and perform the attack. Make sure your opponent is standing still. When they're on the ground quickly hold the button and press the button for the takedown.
Upside-down Grab Attack: Whilst you are grappled on a hook, press the button to flip upside-down. Wait for an opponent to stand underneath you and you can then perform a grab attack by pressing the button when it appears on your screen.
Silent Takedown: Stand behind an opponent and press the button when prompt to perform this takedown.
Ledge Takedown: Find a fence area on the map and press the to grapple to it so that you are hanging on the edge of it and get an opponent to stand nearby the fence. You can then press the button to grab the opponent and throw them over the fence for a takedown.
Explosive Gel: Equip the Gel by pressing the button and then hold down the button and press to plant the Gel. Get an opponent to stand on the Gel afterwards and then hold down the button and then press to detonate it. This should kill the opponent who's standing on it.
Explosive Batarang: Equip the Batarang by pressing the button and then hold down the button to put yourself in aiming mode. Once you have a target, press to throw the Batarang at them or nearby them. You will then see some red flashes on your screen. If your enemy stays within these flashes, the flash will go BOOM and you will takedown anyone that's within the flashes. The flash will not hurt you at all.
Cluster Batarang Takedown: Equip this Batarang by pressing the button twice. Now find a target and get them to stand still. Hold down the button to lock onto them. Once your are fully locked on them press the button to throw a Cluster Batarang to paralyze the opponent. During this paralyzation you'll need to quickly press and then at the same time for a takedown.
Ledge Strangle: Find a ledge somewhere on the map that puts you in a slightly higher position than your opponents but not too high. Get an opponent to stand nearby the edge and whilst your hanging on this edge, you should get the ability to perform a takedown by pressing . This move will make your body grab the opponent by your legs and strangle them, earning you a different type of kill.
Credit towards my friend tornprince2012, there is a method that can be applied of you want to have certain people on certain teams before your match loads up. This applies throughout the multiplayer of the game.
From the main menu, if you go to "Options" and then select "Game Options" you should be given the option to choose your "Faction Preference". Originally it says None, but you can change this to either "Joker" or "Bane" so that you have a high chance in joining either of the two teams you wish to be on. If you are wanting to be "Batman/Robin", simply keep this as None and choose "Hero Opt-Out" as "No". Get everyone else to choose "Yes" and this will give you a high chance in becoming "Batman/Robin" for the round you are playing on. However even though you have chosen these team members doesn't 100% guarantee you will be on that team. In addition at the end of the round, people can still "Opt Out" & "Opt In" if they want to become "Batman/Robin".
You may also get this achievement at the same time if you manage to do all of these moves within a 40 second duration...
Good Luck!
- Ledge Takedown (in the Lightning Bolt area)
- Silent Takedown (standing near the person getting the Ledge Takedown)
- Silent Takedown w/Knockout Smash (standing near the person getting the Ledge Takedown)
- Grate Takedown (in the basement below the Lightning Bolt)
- Inverted Takedown (close to the Lightning Bolt area next to that giant half-circle generator)
- Drop Attack w/Ground Takedown (same as Inverted)
Everyone in the session got it first try. Each person got their achievement in about 4-5 minutes.
Let the person doing the takedowns call out the gamertag and what takedown they will be doing on them and where. Have the list of takedowns handy and write down which takedown you did on who.
Let Batman go first, killing Robin at every opportunity so the Intimidation meter doesn't go up to much. When Batman is done, start killing Batman to lower the meter to a low percentage then let Robin do the takedowns. Guaranteed two people getting the achievement in one match.
FYI - I think that the Explosive Gel is what's messing everyone up. It would be wise not to do it. Also, Corner Takedowns will more than likely count as Silent Takedowns, so avoid those as well.
To clarify what needs to be done, as Batman or Robin you must take out all six enemy players, using a different takedown on every one of them. As such you can only do this if both sides have a full team of three people each.
The way this trophy tracks your progress works like this. When you take someone down, that particular takedown is locked in on that particular player for the rest of the match.
For example, if you used a silent takedown on Player A, both the silent takedown and Player A are now counted for this trophy's progress until the match ends. If you later take down someone else with a silent takedown, you can't then takedown Player A again with a new move and have it count, because the game considers that player already counted.
As such you need to keep going to different players and keep using different takedowns. Dying won't reset your progress and you don't have to do exactly six takedowns on six different people. Reusing a takedown, or taking the same player down again won't mess up this trophy (as far as I know) it just won't add any progress to unlocking it. As long as at some point you've taken out every enemy player using a different takedown from the previous ones in the same match, you'll be fine.
There are several takedowns and what counts as different ones can be a little confusing. Here's the ones I know of.
Inverted - Done from vantage points.
Silent - Hit Triangle while standing behind someone.
Smash - Hit Square while doing silent takedown.
Ground - Done while enemy is lying on ground.
Grate - Done from inside of grates.
Ledge- Hang from ledge and wait for enemy to pass by.
Corner- Take cover behind wall, wait for enemy.
Double - Hit triangle while behind two enemies near each other.
Reverse Chokehold - Done from edge of roof with enemy below.
Melee - Hit enemy (square) until beaten. (Usually takes 3 hits)
Gadget - Take out enemy with explosive gel or sonic batarang.
Both explosive gel and the exploding batarang count as the same takedown for some odd reason. So only one of them count towards this trophy. The double takedown can be troublesome. Only one of the two taken down count for it, and I'm not sure which. I assume whoever's name appears first on the kill tags, but I'd just avoid that one, which is easy enough considering how rare the chance to do it is.
I found the six easiest takedowns to do are Inverted, Gel, Silent, Smash, Ground and Melee. Only the first one requires any kind of special environment (someone must walk under a vantage point), the other five can be done anytime.
Start with the Inverted Takedown to get it out of the way. Try and work in the ground takedown whenever you see someone isolated from all the other players. For the explosive gel takedown, glide kick or drop attack an enemy, then quick fire the gel (L2 + Square) then hit quick fire again to detonate. As long as you set it off before they get up, they'll get KOed.
The last three are all pretty simple. Silent and Smash just involve getting behind someone. Don't bother sneaking like in the single player, running doesn't alert human players (but gliding can so try to drop straight down without gliding). The melee one just involves hitting someone. Try to do it from behind though. If the catch any glimpse of you first there's a good chance they'll kill you before you land all three blows.
Robin in particular is good at attacking minions. The zip kick (L2 + Triangle) immediately closes the gap on a minion and knocks him to the ground, making him an easy kill for both the explosive gel and the ground takedown. He also has a very durable bullet shield you can use to block attacks until you're close enough to bash someone. Just watch out for grenades as the shield won't stop them.
The trickiest part of this trophy is keeping track of which players you've knocked out. I suggest keeping a pen and paper handy. When you take one out, write down who and with what take out. I know it sounds OCD, but with all the odd PSN names out there it's really hard to do this from just memory.
It also helps to focus on one team first. Jokers are red on detective vision, Bane is blue. If you take out a Joker first, try to get the other two Jokers next. If you can get all three with different takedowns, then you know the only ones left you need are Bane's people, or vice versa.
Team captains have their names and a white star above their heads, but otherwise the game doesn't tell which player is which until after you KO them so there might be some trial in error locating certain players, but remember their clothes and weapons are different, so turning off detective mode can be handy for telling them apart.
You don't have to do the takedowns I recommend. If the opportunity presents itself to do other ones, feel free to take it. And above all be patient, you don't have to win the match, you're just trying to get this trophy. So don't worry about getting KO's to win. And if you're close to winning and haven't gotten the trophy yet, you can let someone kill you to drop your score a little. That way you don't win by accident before the trophy unlocks.
If one side is dominating the other, you can slow them down the by sabotaging their control points with scramblers. Just walk up to the computer panel at the control point and hit X. Also feel free to use smoke bombs, batarangs and the exploding rang to muck them up. Just getting hit by these tend to slow people down because they figure you'll be attacking soon.
I earned this trophy on Joker’s Funhouse, which is probably the easiest map to get this on. The maze like set-up often causes people to get split up, making it easier to pick them off. The vantage points are also spread out all over the map instead of just on the sides, making it easier to get around and harder for other players to anticipate you. Wayne Chemical can work due to the fairly open ceiling area. I recommend avoiding Wonder Land and especially Blackgate if possible. These maps have a lot of tunnels where’s it harder to reach people.
With some luck, you should be able to get it. Just take it one guy at a time and know which takedown you want to do next.
I lucked out when it was my turn, I did MORE than 6 takedown moves.
Inverted Takedown
Silent Takedown
Grate Takedown
Corner Takedown
Silent Takedown to Smash Knockout
Corner Takedown to Smash Knockout
Dive Bomb to Floor Takedown
Double Takedown with Explosive Gel
It unlocked for me AFTER the double kill with the Explosive Gel.
All I can say is to be PATIENT with this, and COORDINATE your team so everyone is designated a different takedown. It may not work the first time, or at all. But you have to coordinate your group. This is essential.
Unobtainable - Server Closure, August 2023
For this you'll need a full lobby (or 7, as long as Joker and Bane are both full) and this is best done in a private match as this is nearly impossible legit. As a hero, you must do 6 different takedowns on different enemies.
Takedowns you could do include:
- Silent Takedown
- Ground Takedown
- Inverted Takedown
- Ledge Takedown
- Grate/Vent Takedown
- Exploding Gel
- Explosive Batarang (Batman Only)
- Reverse Ledge Takedown
- Corner Takedown
- Knockout Smash
Any 6 of these will do. Communication is key to make sure you don't do a repeat move or takedown. Then repeat with whoever is Robin. Note that if the intimidation meter hits max the game will end, so the Elites who have already been taken down should go and kill the hero not boosting repeatedly to avoid hitting the top, ending the game. As soon as the sixth takedown is done, you'll get this. You'll also get Know Thy Enemy at the end of the game.
Take note that from here, all the Multiplayer achievements below, including this one, can be done in a Private Lobby. If you do in fact use plan on obtaining any of the achievement in a Private Match, you will need at least three players to start. Public Matches on the other hand can only begin with a full lobby of eight players.
For this achievement, you will need to be in a full, eight player lobby and be playing as part of the Heroes faction. Assuming you are boosting, communicate with your boosting partners in order to meet up in a specific part of the map. I highly recommend meeting at the middle control point on the Chemical Plant map, as the environment here allows for six different takedowns easily. Below, you can see a list of the different types of takedowns you can utilize for this achievement:
- Corner Takedown
- Grate Takedown
- Ground Pound Takedown
- Hanging Ledge Takedown
- Inverted Takedown
- Ledge Takedown
- Silent Takedown
Remember, you need to take out all six Elites in the match using a different takedown on each player. Once you have successfully done this, the achievement will unlock right away.