BioShock 2 Remastered

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Against All Odds

Against All Odds

Finished the game on the hardest difficulty level.

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How to unlock the Against All Odds achievement in BioShock 2 Remastered - Definitive Guide

If you follow my method, you can get this achievement within 6-8 hours .

We will be exploiting a glitch, which will give you infinite health / no damage. However, you won't be able to do so until mid game - so for half the game, we have no choice but to play it normally, and Hard mode is (you guessed it) pretty difficult. However, an average FPS gamer should get to the midway point with their sanity in tact, and by the mission Siren Alley we will be repeating a glitch that will mean you will not die at all, andcomplete the remainder of the game in about 3 hours.

Disclaimer: this walkthrough assumes you've completed the game once, and understand how gatherers gardens, health, adam and eve, weapons, the missions etc. work. If this is your first play through, you're in the wrong place.

Before we start, I strongly recommend the following:

1) Do every other achievement (DLC doesn't matter) before this one. This step is not compulsory but STRONGLY recommended. Collectibles, little sisters, weapon stations etc. are NOT your focus on this play through. Just get hard mode done.

2) Enable vita-chambers. You will die a lot until the mid way point in the game. To try this with vita-chambers disabled is utter suicide unless you are a complete veteran of this game.

3) We will be ignoring most little sisters, and harvesting any we do need. In my opinion, the game is much more enjoyable when you save the little sisters; however, it will make this achievement SIGNIFICANTLY harder, so we have little choice. Sorry


4) Make a fresh save for each mission. This allows you to revert to a previous save only 1 mission prior if a game breaking glitch happens. BioShock are some of the best games of all time, but glitches do occur. I was more unlucky on 1 than 2, but better to be safe than sorry.

Playthrough
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Step 1: Start Game on Hard, with Vita Chambers enabled. Play through normally until the start of Siren Alley. Make sure you have at least 200 ADAM left, and don't buy any plasmid slots.

I've put some detailed tips to help you out as this isn't easy

Optional Tips:
- There are 3 little sisters before Siren Alley, but we will only be resolving two. The first one, in Ryan's Amusements, complete the gathers and harvest (the gathers are compulsory with this one). Harvest for maximum adam. In Pauper's Drop, there are two little sisters. Only grab one and harvest straight away. You should have plenty of ADAM from these 2 a lone (160 x 2 for harvests plus a little more for the first 2 gathers.) Leave the third alone, as it will spawn a big sister which are very difficult on ahrd and will just drain your resources. With the 1st little sister, the big sister is unavoidable.

- Don't worry about dying. Sounds silly, but I recommend dying often. Money is very, very scarce on hard mode, and is the single most challenging part of the difficulty. The enemies aren't overly hard, its your scarce resources. Limit your use of health kits and accept death instead unless using a health kit is obvious (i.e. you have the discipline to use only one and have 5 at your disposal etc.). With Vita's enabled, you'll simply respawn with half of your health bar, all your kits, hypos, ammo and money intact. Secondly, all the enemies will be damaged to the extent they were before you died (so if a big daddy only had 25% when you died, they still will). Thus, its better to use and abuse the vita chambers rather than use up all your kits, ammo and hypos

- Plasmids are hella useful. Like really useful, especially before the glitch mission (Siren Alley). Use shock and melee combo, fire, and hypnotise. Just remember that EVE hypos are scarce, and always have a couple on you if you can.

-Linked to the above, spend your money on ammo. This is really important as you will have a minimum of two encounters.

- Don't buy plasmid slots the Gatherer's Garden!!!!. Step 2 relies on this.

- Hack all health stations, vending machines and ammo machines you use. If you aim for the blue, it will chuck out kits, ammo etc. at you. Also, hacked health stations damage enemies who try to health up there.

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Step 2: As soon as you get to Siren Alley, use the glitch exploit for the rest of the game to get infinite health.

Glitch time. We will need a plasmid called Scout and will be glitching it. This plasmid is unobtainable before Siren Alley, hence the wait, but it is worth it trust me.

Prepping the Glitch (only time we will have to do this):
- Go to the gene bank at the start of the mission, in the main hub area. Check how many plasmids (top row) and how many slots you have. You need to be sure that you can swap out any plasmid for one not equipped; in layman's terms, have more plasmids than slots. So basically if you have, say, 4 plasmid slots, make sure you have 5+ plasmids, (any plasmids not in use show as a list to the right of the plasmid inventory). If you listened to step 1 and didn't buy plasmid slots, you will almost certainly have more plasmids than slots anyway. If you didn't, you'll be fine as long as you have some ADAM (150ish)

- Go to the gatherer's garden RIGHT next to this gene bank. Buy Scout for 40 ADAM. If buying this plasmid means you have more plasmids than slots, great. If not, buy another cheap plasmid. (it does not matter which, there are lots for about 60 ADAM - something like Insect Swarm of Winter's Blast will do).

-Go back to the gene bank we were just at, and equip scout.

Make a manual save as we will be doing the glitch. Obviously, this requires EVE like any other plasmid would

Doing the Glitch (repeat this step at the start of every mission):
[bStand by the gene bank so the prompt to press X to enter is on screen, but don't press x yet.

-When you're ready, use scout with LT, and INSTANTLY press A to enter the gene bank whilst the animation is in progress. The timing is quite specific but very quick to repeat. If you entered the gene bank with the fist clenched, that's normally a good indicator.

- In the gene bank, swap out scout for any other plasmid not equipped. This is why we needed more plasmids than slots. Scout should now NOT be equipped, and should be in the list on the right.

-If done correctly, you will be out of your body as if you were using scout, but scout will not be in your plasmids inventory. The plasmid you replaced it with will also be blacked out. Press B to return to your body and, if done right, you will now be immune to any damage. Like, anything, you can't die. A video before is attached for reference, as it can take a couple of tries.



YOU CAN NOW RUN AROUND AND NOT TAKE ANY DAMAGE FROM ENEMIES, PLASMIDS OR FALL DAMAGE.!!!!!

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Step 3: Complete the rest of the game, doing this glitch at the beginning of every level. . Be mindful that the only thing that will "reset" this glitch, and make you did it again, are load screens at the end of levels (unavoidable) and harvesting / rescuing little sisters (avoidable)

You will have infinite health from now on, so you can literally ignore enemies and follow arrows to your objectives, unless of course your objective requires you to / won't trigger until you kill waves of enemies. Big battles are doddles now. Also, ignore little sister and big daddies for the rest of the game. You'll waste ammo, & by being immune, you won't need to spend ADAM because you won't need to upgrade to not die (if that make sense). Just use what you've got. Research isn't really necessary either.

FINALLY (BUT VERY IMPORTANT)

1) you will have to do the glitch once, and only once, a mission (except for Dionysus Park*), as the load screen resets the glitch. At the start of a new level after Siren's Alley, simply find a gene bank and repeat the "Doing the Glitch" steps above. There is always one very close to the beginning of the level.

Dionysus Park is the main exception to this (the mission after Siren's Alley.) This is because...

2) Resolving the little sisters in any way (harvesting or rescuing) resets the glitch, for some reason. So AVOID little sisters. You won't need them, you can't die, and you don't need the Adam. The reason Dionysus Park is the exception is because you have to resolve 3 little sisters as part of the story, as you know by now. Thus, you will be forced to repeat the glitch several times. The main hub area has a gene bank, so it shouldn't be too stressful.

22/7/20: As stated by Rowdy722: : "The glitch also gets reset after you take control of the Little Sister and collect the Big Sister suit. But it’s only a small fight, then the next level".

Largely, after Dionysus Park however, just do the glitch once at the start of Fontaine Futuristics, once at the start of Persephone, and once at the start of Inner Persephone

Hope this helps everyone, this method should make a hard achievement a moderately simple on.
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18 Oct 2016 08:10

50 Comments
Still works as of 17/12/16. Lazy developers being lazy.
If you already finished the game once with vita chambers off, you can turn them on for this playthrough, since there is no real penalty like in BS: Infinite 1999 mode.
You die, return to a Vita Chamber with half a bar of health, some first aid kits and Eve.

And in case you were in the middle of fighting a Big Sister, the timer restarts where you can prepare for her attacks but she still has the same amount of health as when you died (in my case it was half a bar of energy twice on her part).
Don't waste tons of ammo, since Telekenisis does the trick better most of the time with returning fireballs and debris on her.
Also: After the saved ADAM for the Scout plasmid and extra slot, you have loads of ADAM to spent. Use them on the wave 2 plasmids (especially the Insect Swarm 2 does a great job in damage and following Houdini Splicers on the map, making it easier to take those out and some extra tonic slots. Eve Saver and Eve Saver+ are great tonics to save more Eve on the long run and big waves of enemies.
And if possible for the sometimes harder spots (like the beginning of Inner Persophone, where you can get a slap of two or three from Splicers) to have one extra first aid kit is no shame!
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By TheBongoFury on 18 Dec 2016 13:59
Awesome solution but I believe that it is actually "A" to enter the Gene Bank on the Xbox One. "X" is used on PS4. Unless of course there is another controller layout that i'm not using. Positive anyway.
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By HumdrumAcorn118 on 27 Oct 2016 18:25
Just want to say as of 11/5/16 this still works. Don't think they would fix it at this point
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By ASquishyHamster on 06 Nov 2016 06:32
Well TinMan, I don't believe that just because the developers haven't fixed this glitch doesn't make them lazy. It makes you look ignorant though. Anyway, as of 02/14/17, this glitch still works. Yay!
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By on 15 Feb 2017 01:28
Re: the glitch I think its just something that when remastering they probably didn't think was important enough to take out.

I wouldn't complain too much because it helps you out significantly!
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By NoHeroes94 on 15 Feb 2017 08:40
Right
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By on 15 Feb 2017 15:27
Still works.... 21-2-17
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By SHOTOKANKATANA on 21 Feb 2017 17:36
not sure if its just me but the glitch doesn't seem to work for me have done everything in the vid and the slot is darkened out but still taking damage don't know if you have to change from scout to cyclone but doesn't work with other plasmids,have tried it with hypnotise ,security commandand incinerate with no luck
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By spikeylizard on 04 Mar 2017 14:16
It still works as of today. If you have trouble keep trying. I make a save right before I try it and if it takes too long I just reload my save and try again. Hopefully when you go in the gene bank your hand is in a fist and sometimes I see the outline of the scout plasmid when I go in. Plus no reason to downvote this because you can't get it to works. It works it just takes some time to understand how to do it. Solution makes it easier to get a hard playthrough done
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By wildwest08 on 14 Mar 2017 22:15
Nice guide.

I only have to add one important thing: Create more than 1 save, because the game can crash during a save and this will corrupt your save. You can't load up this save and you have to use your last autosave OR another backup save. I lost around 30 minutes of gameplay.
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By Kugare on 21 May 2017 00:47
Still work as today 2017-12-10.

Good guide!
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By alreadycrowned on 10 Dec 2017 16:15
Got nothing better to do? I posted that a year ago, and honestly who cares. I wasn't wrong in my statement nor was I right. But neither were you. You're just as ignorant and arrogant for your statement as this section should be used for confirming if the following solution works. People like you just complain about the wrong things at the wrong times. Don't waste anybody's time.
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By on 02 Mar 2018 07:30
doing this actually crashed the entire system, not just the game. this may have worked for a few minutes for me, but if damaging my xbox is possible, then it's not for me. guess i'll have to complete the rest of the game normally.
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By TheAnonymity on 03 Mar 2018 06:12
Thanks for this guide. It made the rest of the game a breeze. I didn't want to harvest little sisters so I completed all the gathers for the first two sisters before saving them and then on Dionysus park, I adopted and immediately saved the sisters at a vent (no gather). From the time I got to siren alley, it only took a few hours and it probably could have been shorter if I didn't engage in so many fights (except for the big daddies with little sisters).
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By I am Mindslave on 03 Mar 2018 23:42
Still works as of the 2nd of June 2018.
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By Ontyy on 02 Jun 2018 16:07
^ Still works as of the 28th of September 2018.
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By Sky360 on 28 Sep 2018 18:40
Still works Dec 23 2018
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By Dahlia Vibes on 23 Dec 2018 23:57
Still works Feb. 1 2019
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By zDrUnKeNMoNkEyz on 02 Feb 2019 07:29
Still works May, 13th 2019. Thanks a lot!
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By VGV05 on 13 May 2019 16:28
Still works as 16th, June 2019, this is awesome man.
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By Liquid Yin on 16 Jun 2019 09:52
Still works on the bioshock collection for xbox one!!
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By SpInAl KiLlHeR on 25 Jan 2020 20:20
Can you not just change the difficulty at the end of the game like you could on the first one?
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By Mr SpinelesS on 27 Feb 2020 03:25
No I'm afraid not @Mr SpinelesS
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By NoHeroes94 on 27 Feb 2020 07:09
I couldn’t get the scout glitch to work, maybe I was being slow but I tested it for a while. 26/05/2020
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By Porky on 26 May 2020 12:47
I've spoken to a friend who has done this in the last month and they said the glitch still worked fine for them. I'm not aware of any patches, although this glitch has been present since 2010 (OG) and 2016 (collection) so I don't expect them to ever patch this out. I imagine this is a timing issue, as the timing is a bit of a pain to get used to.
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By NoHeroes94 on 26 May 2020 13:05
The hardest difficulty is HARD or another one?
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By IthaloJesus on 01 Jun 2020 01:52
Can anyone confirm if this still works after the most recent patch?
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By NovelPounder on 24 Jun 2020 18:44
Invulnerability glitch still works as of recent patch.

I did this achievement and the no Vita chamber achievement at the same time.
I don’t if the OP is just overly cautious or just blows at BioShock but the game is pretty easy before Siren Alley. I died twice, once from accidentally agro-ing a Daddy and once for activating an alarm. Just save often and loot everything before Siren Alley and you’ll be fine.
Definitely wouldn’t suggest getting both achievements if you aren’t doing the glitch. Game is hard AF after Siren Alley.

One thing OP failed to mention is the glitch also gets reset after you take control of the Little Sister and collect the Big Sister suit. But it’s only a small fight, then the next level.
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By rowdy722 on 21 Jul 2020 23:42
@rowdy722 - It's important for solution writers to account for various abilities IMO. Nothing annoys me more than seeing content not really filling in the blanks on harder modes, and seeing a ton of people in the comments struggle. I see it a lot on here; solution writers presuming their audience has well above average proficiency at FPS shooters. I think BioShock hard mode is 4/10 in terms of difficulty. It isn't a cake walk, harder than 1 or Infinite, but it's nothing crazy. I do say that the average gamer should get to Siren Alley without too much difficulty.

I'll add in about taking control of the Little Sister.
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By NoHeroes94 on 22 Jul 2020 05:34
This glitch still works as of December 6th, 2020
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By The Ninjew46 on 06 Dec 2020 19:42
Still working as of Feb 28th 2021
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By VOODOO85 on 28 Feb 2021 21:41
Still working
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By oh Gentle on 26 Mar 2021 13:40
Still working
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By BRANIAC1972 on 24 Aug 2021 14:40
still working
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By MmmmDanone on 08 Jan 2022 19:41
Still working
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By Foxy Dan Ninja on 25 Jan 2022 22:30
They probably won't ever patch this. Still working in BioShock 2 Remastered, 12 Feb 2022
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By HighClassHobo47 on 12 Feb 2022 20:24
As of May 8th, i can confirm it is still working.
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By DuckierMedal686 on 08 May 2022 20:09
still works 13 Jun 2022
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By Papaparkin on 13 Jun 2022 14:43
Still works
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By xxxxKALYPSOxxxx on 21 Aug 2022 14:46
Second that.
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By Dmbledore on 08 Sep 2022 23:38
Yeah still works! Thanks for this method.
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By EI Bikerboy on 18 Sep 2022 09:01
Still works 19 Dec 2022
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By MaxChloe2013 on 19 Dec 2022 08:28
Still works as of Jan 8th 2023
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By Reckless Hippie on 08 Jan 2023 18:21
The exploit works as of may 2023, but this achievement is glitched. Didn’t pop, but replayed a saved file right at then and it popped once I completed the game again.
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By NcMor on 22 May 2023 04:27
Still works October 23 2023
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By OBlackStone0 on 24 Oct 2023 01:05
Why is so much Adam needed, if Scout only costs so much? I didn't see anything in the solution.
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By Edward Antonym on 05 May 2024 00:13
Still works 17 April 2017, took me a few tries to get the timing perfect though.

You can replace Scout with any Plasmid as well, I've done it with both Hypnotize and Telekinesis.
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By Heraizen on 17 Apr 2017 07:21
I am definitely not complaining. It is an awesome find. However, how does saying developers are lazy make someone ignorant Phoenix? I would have to say you are pretty ignorant for defending someone that has not fixed their game. It is why developers and publishers get away with whatever they want nowadays. Because there will always be people okay with stuff that clearly should not pass. In this case a game breaking glitch.
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By Hexa Fox on 02 Mar 2018 06:17
As of March 10, 2022, this glitch is functional. Personally, I had difficulty timing the button presses.
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By shurisuke on 10 Mar 2022 05:35
Still working

I did have to finish it twice because it didn't count the first time, so I'd advise to just do a manual save before pressing that last button for the sub
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By Yorkie Yeah on 28 Sep 2022 20:36
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