Darksiders II

Darksiders II

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How to unlock the BFA achievement in Darksiders II - Definitive Guide

Edit: As long as "Pay it forward" achievement is unobtainable, BFA will be as well since it requires to obtain all other achievements in the game. I will be happy to remove this section if someone confirms that "Pay it forward" can be achieved again.

Spoiler free guide

1 - Introduction

For this achievement, you will have to unlock every other achievements in the game. It will pop up instantly after your second to last achievement. The game require at least two playthrought, but there is no missable achievements. Before I go on, just a few clarification about the ending phase of the game:

When you are about to finish the game for the first time, there is a point of no return, just before the ending battle. When you complete the game, you have the opportunity to start a new game+ from this save.

* If you refuse, you will stay in the world and you can continue side quests and collectible, but your character is caped at level 22. Please note that nothing is missable even if some collectible can be a pain to reach. So if you stay, you can have all achievements except : "Epic" (for reaching level 30), "Is there anyone else ?" (for completing the crucible, because it fully unlocks at level 25), "Bravo old chap" (he can be fought only if you finish the crucible in one sitting), and obviously "BFA". However, you can beat the final boss again and then accept to start a new game+.

* If you accept, it will erase your progress (quests, collectibles and so on) but you keep your level, your skills, your bonuses from the stone and the relic quests, and your equipment but you will start the story again from the beginning. Your character will be caped at level 30 and you will be able to complete the crucible and every achievements.

Useful notes:
If you complete your new game+ and beat the final boss, you cannot start another new game+. However, you can beat again the final boss, complete side quests, or fight in the crucible.
If you do the side quests for relics and stones in both runs, you can stack both rewards, making your character even stronger.
You don't need to collect Vulgrim coins and arbiter's scrolls, they do not count for any achievement.
However, you need the online pass to send a gift and to access the crucible so it's necessary for some achievements. It's free if you bought the game new.

2 - What you will have to do to obtain this achievement

This is basically what you will have to do, just to give you an idea.

* Finish the game at least once in apocalyptic difficulty (it's not so hard, but don't drop the difficulty during the game)
* Start a new game + and reach level 30
* Complete the crucible (in any difficulty, but in one sitting) and then the crucible boss.
* Complete every side quests (which includes collectible quests) in a single run (video guide almost mandatory ...)
* A few easy misc achievements

3 - Walkthrough

Fastest method

* Step 1

Start in apocalyptic, and use the video guide for collectibles/side quests. Don't bother about crucible. Complete every side quests, and defeat the final boss.

* Step 2

Start a new game+ on easy/normal difficulty. Proceed to the main quest in order to level up to 30. Then, complete the crucible.

My method (slow but fun)

* Step 1

I started the game on normal and just finished the game with all story related achievements (and a few easy ones). Don't worry about collectibles, just enjoy this excellent game ! My character was almost level 22 when I finished the game, and I never farmed. It took me about 25 hours but I really took my time to enjoy everything.

* Step 2

I started a new game+ in apocalyptic, and I used a guide for the collectible (yeah, sue me :p). It was even easier than my previous run as I was used to the game mechanics and my character build suited me perfectly (full harbinger). I finished every side quests, cleaned misc achievements and completed the main story again.

* Step 3

I completed the crucible (still in apocalyptic, it's not very hard with life and wrath steal). It took me less than one hour. As THE Wheelman 87 mentioned, if you leave the crucible, when you enter again you have the option to continue where you left off, or to start again if you prefer.

A few tips

*You can leave a dungeon at any moment if you need to restock potions. You can also destroy environment elements such as crates, some of them contains potions.
*You can reorganize yours skills at any moment by drinking a "respec" potion. You can buy them from Vulgrim who is accessible by fast travel.
*Possessed weapons are incredibly powerful. Feed them with items that have useful abilities, such as "life steal", "wrath steal", and others that suits your character build. Indeed, when a possessed weapon level up, you can choose a new ability for it, which was attached to any of the sacrificed items. For example, you sacrifice 3 items which totalise 5 different abilities. When the possessed weapon level up, you can add one of the 5 abilities. A possessed weapon cannot have more than 4 different abilities, so choose carefully (Life steal and Wrath steal are a must but weapons that have these abilities cannot be found until end-game).

If you need any further information please ask in the comment section. Hope this helps :)
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28 Aug 2012 21:55

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Yeah I love this : "My method (slow but fun)" héhé private joke ! :p
Nice Guide Fuuldrin !
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By Dams Profile on 29 Aug 2012 17:54
good guide but one of the pages is missable where you have to wall run 3 walls and then death grip to the first of three dead kings court.
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By gamejunkie1420 on 07 Sep 2012 07:08
I don't remember about this one actually, but if so, I'll update my guide, thanks !
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By Fuuldrin on 07 Sep 2012 07:17
I just unlock all 49 achievements, and this one doesn't unlock at all. Any ideas ?
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By Jokhantho on 26 Sep 2012 14:26
Electrik : This is wierd, but I have been told that some achievements are glitched and sometimes do not unlocked even if the requirements are met. If I were you, I'd contact the developpers team to have answers / a fix. Did you have major bugs or glitched achievements while playing Darksiders 2 ?
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By Fuuldrin on 03 Oct 2012 11:30
I feel it should be noted somewhere that if you start the Crucible, leave, and return it gives you the option to continue from where you left off, or to start over.
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By THE Wheelman 87 on 08 Dec 2014 14:18
I has no idea about this, I'll update the guide. Thank you!
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By Fuuldrin on 17 Dec 2014 12:48
FYI you no longer have to complete all 100 levels of Crucible in one sitting to get to Wicked K. You only have to do 1-25, then you can die on 26 and go back and select Wicked K.
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By Shadow XBL on 05 Apr 2016 14:29
Recently just took interest in this game again, can I complete it since I have the other discontinued achievement?
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By TheAaronLad on 05 Apr 2017 18:03
The other achievement should be required but BFA has not been flagged as unobtainable on TA. People have been unlocking BFA recently so I assume you can still get it.
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By Fuuldrin on 06 Apr 2017 17:57
This may not get read or replied to, but I have all the achievements including pay it forward except BFA and completing the cruicible. The only problem is I'm not skilled enough to beat the crucible on apocalyptic and that's the only thing stopping me from 100%. If I start over(it's been years since I've played) on normal, and play it through to NG+ Then beat the crucible, would I still get BFA without having to completely collect everything again?
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By CaptianCanadian on 18 Apr 2017 03:48
I haven't tried that way, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. As long as you unlock the second to last achievement, BFA will unlock. You don't have to do everything in one run / one sitting.
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By Fuuldrin on 18 Apr 2017 09:48
So, unless I'm mistaken, there's no warning in the BFA solutions as well nor in the walkthrough. I just finished the game and would like confirmation if there is or isnt a way to unlock BFA because of this one achievement Pay It Forward. After playing this game for so many hours it would be nice to know before uninstalling it.
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By togethawiistand on 18 Sep 2017 14:00
the thing is BFA was sometimes unobtainable, sometimes it wasn't. If someone confirms that it's 100% unobtainable and that won't change then I'm happy to say so in this solution.
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By Fuuldrin on 19 Sep 2017 07:29
Yeah, I know what you mean. About confirmation, well, if you check my profile you'll see that I just completed all the achievements that are, with 100% certainty, possible as of Sep 2017. That is, all but Pay It Forward (and therefore BFA). If BFA was fixed to unlock when all those were completed except Pay It Forward I would have it by now. That doesn't seem the case, so I can empirically say that BFA is, of present, unobtainable. Similar experiences would be welcomed, of course. I don't remember buying this game, it must've been GwG, so probably other people must've got it and play it that way too.
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By togethawiistand on 20 Sep 2017 01:17
Edited, thank you!
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By Fuuldrin on 20 Sep 2017 07:43
Hi Guys, I had to delete my profile on my 360 and forgot to back up the savegames of some games i.e. Darksiders 2.
I already got the "pay it foreward" achievement, but I ahve no savegame anymore.
Does I have a chance to gain the BFA -cheevo? (I don't know if this achievement is connected to the profile or connected to a savegame)
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By Chris Hirschy on 30 Sep 2020 14:59
I'm wondering the same thing as Chris Hirschy. I have the Pay It Forward achievement from years ago, but I don't have the save from my 360 anymore. Can I still get it, or do I need that savefile that I did the Pay It Forward unlock on?
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By Possibly91Bears on 04 May 2023 03:41
I suppose I've wasted my time on worse things before. I'll just test it out myself and report back whenever I find time to complete it all.
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By Possibly91Bears on 04 May 2023 21:42
Nice guide dude. I think I'll do all the side quests and collectibles stuffs during my first run on normal difficulty. Then I will start a new game + on apocalyptic. I don't know if it's better or not but that's sound good. Due to my long list of games I have to finish, I prefer play a speed run on apocalyptic :)
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By Efferalgan on 29 Aug 2012 13:05
If you are talking about the page #18 in the Judicator's tomb, I found an interesting post. It refers to the 2nd video of "the book of the dead page" achievement.

"Upon entering the room (below the switch), run along the left wall, jump to the next wall and you should make it to the ledge that the video starts on. Next, run across and turn left, the page should be there.

Also, I believe if you turn right upon entering that room, and then turn left, run up the wall, you should get on the top floor with the switch. If you head away from the doors and switch, you should be able to see the page across from a large gap, you can two quick wall runs to bridge the gap and get to the other side.

Ultimately, this page is obtainable. "

Original post from "Kohbo" on http://www.xbox360achievements.org

If you weren't thinking of this page, please send me a message with the # of the page so I can check it out !
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By Fuuldrin on 07 Sep 2012 07:31
I can't test it myself, I guess it's linked to the profile (at least it would make sense). If someone confirms it, I can edit the first paragraph of my solution
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By Fuuldrin on 04 May 2023 11:55
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You will gain this achievement by unlocking all other 49 achievements in the game. This is exactly the same as the BFA achievement from the first game so it will unlock as soon as you unlock the second to last achievement you need (whichever one that may be), giving you the full 1,000.
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19 Aug 2012 14:10

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What FATGUY said....
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By porschephiliac on 21 Aug 2012 03:08
I like how streetvet took down his post! What an idiot!
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By xSKOLxV1KINGx on 21 Aug 2012 13:32
Thanks for the support guys, it is very appreciated. Don't forget to thumbs up.
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By Slider257 on 21 Aug 2012 14:01
Apparently I missed something. Lol.
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By IGutlessIWonder on 21 Aug 2012 17:03
haha you did... street vet posted this as the first comment then took it down heres what he posted:
STREETVET: Hey captain obvious, where's the guide? dummy
I hate to keep harping on the guy, but what idiot tries to make fun of a guy who took the time to write a post to help other gamers out? HE'S A COMPLETE MORON! Slider didnt have to take time out of his day to write the post, but Im glad he did. I CLEARLY understand what I have to do to earn this achievement.
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By xSKOLxV1KINGx on 21 Aug 2012 18:05
It might be worth mentioning within this guide if any of the other achievements are missable, or if there is a "point of no return" towards the end of the story as a helpful way of highlighting when you need to mop up the other achievements.
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By Tanookify on 22 Aug 2012 11:08
Kinky Mong - I will be happy to add those details. Again I'd like to point out that this achievement is identical to the one from Darksiders 1 and my guide is just as detailed as those achievement guides so I can't help but wondering why everyone is making a stink about my guide. Trolls being trolls I guess.
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By Slider257 on 22 Aug 2012 15:36
@Kinky Mong: At the end of the game (after you finish Black Stone) you'll get to open the door at the base of the Tree of Life/Death. Entering the newly opened door is the point of no return, and the Crowfather will inform you of this. Also, none of the achievements in the game are really "missable" but many are reportedly glitchy as I myself have encountered :(.
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By Zacry072 on 23 Aug 2012 18:37
Just need a confirmation on this, are vulgrims coins counted in to the "everything" part of this? I'd rather not have to run back through again to find all those coins if just the items that unlock the achievements matter.
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By SyCoShAlOm on 24 Aug 2012 00:51
Well I can't confirm it personally, but from what virtually everyone has said is that it unlocks when you get your next-to-last achievement.
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By Zacry072 on 24 Aug 2012 14:45
You don't need to collect Vulgrim's coins for the achievement to unlock - just unlock all other achievements. For some reason it didn't unlock right away for me. I had to restart the game and then it unlocked after I sacrificed a random weapon for one of my possessed scythes.
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By mFchaRLeS777 on 28 Aug 2012 11:23
On a side note of it all can you tell me what the Hell the BFA stands for lol thanks :P
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By Thief44 on 28 Aug 2012 12:18
@Thief44 - I'd love to know that as well but sadly Vigil has never told us. A lot of the folks abut speculate in means either "Bad F*cking As$" or "Big F*cking Achievement". It could be a reference to a type of degree you earn in college. Somebody should pole Vigil someday to find our the significance but your guess is as good as mine.
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By Slider257 on 29 Aug 2012 06:12
I've just unlocked all 49 achievements, but this one doesn't unlock at all. Any ideas ?
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By Jokhantho on 26 Sep 2012 14:32
clap
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By biegeeinheit on 23 Aug 2013 23:51
Hey captain dumbass!(streetvet) can you read? This is the guide. The achievement is unlocked once every other achievement is earned! If you cant understand basic english, or are too stupid to understand what is said above, you can always go play the disney games for your achievements! They probably have the achievements spelled out in colors and pictures! Thanks for the guide SLider257!
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By xSKOLxV1KINGx on 20 Aug 2012 20:57
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Congratulations, you have unlocked every trophy in Darksiders 2.

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  • Trophy difficulty level : 5.5/10.
  • Offline trophies : 46 (39 , 5 , 2 ).
  • Online trophies : 4 (2 , 1 , 1 ).
  • Estimated time to obtain platinum : 30-50 hours.
  • Minimum number of completions to platinum : 1.5 if you start NG+.
  • Glitched Trophies : None.
  • Number of trophies that are easy to miss : No, it is possible to return to each location.
  • Cheats disable trophies : There are no cheats.

Guide.
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01 Sep 2012 12:07

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In fact, the "Pay It Forward / Unselfishness" trophy is DLS because without purchasing the code you cannot complete the trophy, but this is only for the version purchased through PSN, in the boxed versions the code is included...
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By borogoz on 10 May 2015 23:45
Pay attention to the hint for the Antiquarian trophy, it is easily missed. And it probably carries the Side Adventures trophy with it into a new playthrough with the hassle of collecting everything again.
I would also like to say that platinum is probably no longer available or is not yet available. Since March 2016, when trying to send a gift to a friend, they are notified "The Darksiders II online service is currently unavailable. Please try again later."
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By Alarius on 25 Mar 2016 19:31
Here -> https://gamesisart.ru/pc/Darksiders_2_Prohozhdenie.html#Levels Very good and detailed walkthrough with descriptions of items and everything, everything, everything
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19 Sep 2013 12:47