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Improvised Kills

Improvised Kills

Kill 150 enemies with items from the environment

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How to unlock the Improvised Kills achievement in Darksiders - Definitive Guide

A lot of people mention having trouble with this achievement after progressing through the game (as I did) based around the fact that once an object is used, it doesn't always re-spawn.

Well the only reliable item which will always re-spawn is the Bomb. It's Classed as an environmental object which can be thrown, along with causing plenty of damage each time.

The place I got this achievement is after beating Silithia. Once you return to her lair catch the lift up to the top and head through the webbed door.

Follow the path back and keep going through the doors until you are back in the room with the bomb. It's a 2 floor room which you will enter on the top floor - there is a lift with a movable block and a bomb on top.

Lower the bomb to the ground floor and jump down the hole, use the bombs to destroy the spiders. I believe there are 14-15 spiders in this room

Once they have all been defeated, exit the room on the ground floor. Take a sharp left and head to the stairs.

Get to the bottom of the stairs - turn round and walk back up to the bomb room you were in before.

You'll find the spiders have reset and you can repeat the bomb killing!

You should have this achievement in no time at all; and don't forget, you can use this same room to level up your weapons too.

Update:
Just a couple of points from some of the comments left below.

- Leave this as one of the last achievements you get, but keep it in mind as you journey through the game (make use of kills from normal object throws and finish up with this technique).

- The kill will only count if the bomb throw kills the spider, not the flames from the explosion, so you will rack up more than 150 kills before it pops.
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25 Mar 2010 16:21

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This would have helped me a lot instead of grinding Crossroads; I already got the achievement before I saw this solution. :(
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By SpocKirk on 07 Apr 2010 16:20
Guys, not sure if this is my system glitched but i ahve killed 500 spiders with bombs now, and guess what... still no ping, can someone confirm if this has worked for them? or have i wasted some serious time?!!?
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By Spartan 2521 on 14 Apr 2010 19:06
The ach popped while I was using this technique, which is why I posted it. Is it the throw which is killing spiders, or the explosion? That could be the difference.
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By hatchywatchy on 15 Apr 2010 08:28
I tried to use this as well but still no achievement, in the solution you mention and the response you said. So what's the difference in killing the spiders? Do I have to throw to kill the spiders or the explosion to kill the spiders? I will keep trying anyway...
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By 波爺 on 02 May 2010 13:34
I can only assume you want the spider killed from throwing the bomb, not the explosion. The achievement popped while I was doing this so just keep going and you will get it!
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By hatchywatchy on 03 May 2010 19:31
The count will be accounted if I play, save the game and come after a while to play will be counted....
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By MADVIRUS on 22 Aug 2010 06:53
so im assuming that this must be done in the one playthrough and is not accumulative?
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By OldMateClown on 17 Oct 2010 03:12
No, it is not accumulative - It doesn't matter when you do this, but all 100 kills need to be within the same save.
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By hatchywatchy on 20 Oct 2010 08:21
Works, however, the impact of the bomb must kill them not the explosion.

Pretty annoying, but it is an unlimited amount of environment items. Thumbs up!
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By Caltrop on 03 Jun 2011 20:52
this solution works but it takes forever, it took me an hour and a half not to mention i already had about one third of the kills but i found it to be less boring and quicker than the other solution with the going back and forth. I would highly suggest to anybody going for the achievement try working on this from the start.
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By See u in helll on 27 Jun 2011 03:52
This takes ages. I've killed hundreds of spiders and still no achievement. I'm so glad when i have this achievement...
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By Kennyannydenny on 07 Oct 2013 20:36
You are correct it does take a long time took me over 7 hour not using any other environmental weapons and it is from the throw the achievement just pinged for me whilst i was throwing one at the spiders bean !!
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By Daradarka on 16 Feb 2014 13:08
Also sorry it does not have to be in one sitting
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By Daradarka on 16 Feb 2014 13:09
thxs man
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By on 06 Jul 2020 00:13
Thanks for the solution but I cant rate this pretty high, the throw itself doesn't kill them the first time and the explosion does, and 60% of the time you're stunlocked....dunno about this.
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By l DNAngel l on 05 Mar 2011 02:10
You could also put in that you can attack with the bomb by pressing X and War'll hit them with a 2 hit combo. You can get in 3 combos before you need to throw the bomb away before it explodes. Haven't got the cheevo yet but
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By Obsidian Rocker on 05 Jun 2011 02:30
I just completed this in a reasonable amount of time with this method using a couple of extra tactics:

The spiders are strong enough to survive a few direct hits, so I hit them with the scythe to weaken them first. They can usually only take 1 hit from a max power scythe, so be careful.

As Obsidian Rocker pointed out, you can use the bomb as a melee weapon. Grab the bomb, drop off the pedestal and start swinging (X). With the weakened spiders, you can sometimes get 4-6 kills this way. The critters will knock the bomb out of your hand frequently, which is frustrating, but keep at it.

It's still not fast, but it was way faster than throwing the bomb without the melee kills.
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By M0KKAN on 25 Feb 2015 01:49
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This achievement is actualy very easy, all you have to do is from the very first time you get to play as war, which is in the apocalypse.
Immediately start killing all of the humans with sign posts or cars and, as for the actual enemys beat them down untill you can use the "B" finisher go grab a environmental item and throw it at 'em.

By the time the apocalypse is done you should alredy have about 75 kills towards the achievement, then when u get stripped of all your powers and your going to find Vulgrim kill all the "zombified" humans with chairs of whatever u can find, do this until u reach your goal.

With this method the Achievement Popped for me before i even got to Samael, so fairly early on. Now you can enjoy the Combat without having to deal with picking up stuff all the time and tryting to bash some demons head in with it.

I hoped this method works for you guys too.
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21 Jan 2011 20:13

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+1 dude. by far the less complicated and quickest way.
just started a new game in easy mode and started killing everything i could with items. as it's a new game, there are incredibly many and the mobs are very easy. just a few sort of mobs had to be softened up before killing them with an item. and loads of items and zombies in crossroads and scalding.
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By Phoenix C64 on 28 Jan 2011 13:57
worked like a charm dude
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By a holy chainsaw on 09 May 2011 03:43
thx dude!!! nice one.......
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By RLG JSpartan117 on 20 Apr 2012 18:04
+1. I too tried this, and got the achievement in the room after opening the gate after speaking to Vulgrim for the first time.
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By AphroDynamic on 15 May 2012 19:01
Best guide ever! I spent hours grinding the spiders with bombs and gave up to try this. Got it in less than an hour! It popped before I got to Samael with 177 total kills. I'm not 100% sure if the humans in the very beginning count, but it might be worth checking total kills to see if they do while doing it. Can't thank you enough!
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By Monkey Pelt on 28 Jan 2013 20:00
This needs many more upvotes! So much easier - and more fun - than trying to squish spiders with a bomb growth clap

I accidently killed a few more than I meant to with the blade and still popped it just after leaving the library.
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By Hirsute Dave on 01 Feb 2014 04:59
Much, much easier and straightforward.
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By VivaJerry on 12 Jan 2019 08:51
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If you dont have this achievement before you go towards the final boss, there are a couple of good places and things to do for this achievement

First make sure you have Ravager equipped to Chaoseater.

The Crossroads/Scalding Gallows.
Goto the Crossroads, start hacking and slashing till things have the B above their head then use the environment objects on them repeat this for everything in this area, should be around 20ish mobs.
If you run out of environment items dont worry too much.
Use the serpent hole and goto Scalding gallows, repeat the same process of knocking them down till the B shows up then using environmental objects on them. Once everything is dead go back to the Crossroads and keep repeating till done.

Now to clear up some confusion with the items respawning.
Items do respawn, but says there is 50 environment object in an area, and you use all 50 whether to beat down or destroyed.
Once you leave the area and come back a very small amount of those 5 will be respawned, maybe 5-10 of them.
(Have tested this multiple times in game)

Needless to say doing the "start hacking and slashing till things have the B above there head then use the environment objects on them repeat this for everything in this area" in every area you possible can, cuts out a lot of headache later on.

NOTE1 : Two ppl have said that human kills do count.
NOTE2: Someone said that the environment items weren't respawning for them. (This guide was written before TA crashed and had to revert to previous save file for guides. This guide may have been edited slightly before that.).
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09 Jan 2010 08:23

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do humans in the apocalypse count as enemies?
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By flair ric on 24 Jan 2010 18:00
I have actually wondered about that, as they can be killed in the very first level, but unsure unless you personally tallied it up as you went along.
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By Onsidic on 25 Jan 2010 21:40
do the kills for this carry over to other play-throughs?
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By Starseed630 on 22 Feb 2010 04:15
I'd like to add that killing CROWS counts aswell!

Killed one and it plopped for me.

Good luck!
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By Dr0kz on 16 Apr 2010 19:04
Environment items aren't respawning. Unless you can point out items that some people may be missing to prevent this, I have to give you a neg. Sorry dude. I'm up to here with this game, and this achievement is making it take much longer than it should.
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By Dude Rain on 15 Jun 2010 04:29
The people do count as kills!

I'm glad I got this out of the way early, went for this from the get go and got it well before I even made it to Tiamat, now I can actually enjoy the combat!
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By Crimson Drifter on 29 Nov 2010 07:15
People do count as kills! I killed as many of them as I could at the start. Then did crossroads completely, saved, and reloaded (which respawned all enemies and environmental objects). Just popped for me after I gave up halfway through on a previous save. Popped after 10 kills on the loadup. I hadn't even opened the first Earthcaller gate yet...
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By Anthony Ajax on 04 Aug 2012 06:12
Hey, if you finish the fourth chosen and still don't have this you can easily just go back to the crossroads. There will be ~10 zombified humans that will fall with 1 hit against cars and lamp posts. Then if you save and reload you will start before Vulgrim with everyone respawned. Very easy.
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By a Fi1thy Casual on 31 Aug 2012 13:30
*their head...geesh!
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By Big Ell on 15 Oct 2014 04:12
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Ok first off this is very difficult and tedious to do on a completed
game, so I suggest to start a new game.

The biggest advantage of starting again, is you can go through
an area where you can get at least 100 of the kills, which is
Seraphim Hotel. As soon as you get sent back, the main enemy
you will fight are zombies, which are slow and weak, and most importantly there are lots of them.

Once you finish Seraphim hotel you have two options, for the final 50 or so kills neither take long.

1. Crossroad runs

This is the most common method to doing this, simply use the cars or tables to take out zombies, exiting the area will reset the enemies, however it will not reset the enviromental weaopns, be aware of this.

2. Broken Stair Hotel

In Broken Stair, to get on top of the freeway you have to go through
the hotel. Inside this hotel are around 15 zombies, and a fair few tables. Just use the tables to take out clusters of them.

From Seraphim Hotel, it takes around 30 minutes with the crossroad runs, maybe around 40 for broken stair runs. Hopefully this helped.

Good Luck!
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26 Jan 2010 17:09

The best way to do this is using the throwing ability, you should get to grips with the grab and throw technique right away, in the first area through the city your first achievement should be 'Open air parking', grab a car with the cn_B button then depress the cn_RSc to initiate 'Aim Mode' and take out the Helo.

The same principal should be employed throughout the game with every 'grab-able' object you can find, but only use them against zombies and later Duskbats because harder enemies will take too long to die and the object will perish. Grab-able objects include: cars, trucks, buses, lampposts (street lights), parking meters, dustbins, tables, chairs, bookshelves, bombs (they count) and a few other miscellaneous things lying around throughout the campaign.

Do not kill any zombies or Duskbats unless it’s with one of these objects and this should unlock by the end of the Broken Stair level, very early on.

Also there are a few areas with a lot of zombies and objects, you can if u wish kill them all then die and rinse and repeat, kills will stack up even after death.
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04 Feb 2011 21:40

Like everyone else has said start on this from the first time you control War. When you are working your way to the 4th boss you`ll come across a room where you`ll get swarmed with broodlings. Start picking up beds and make sure a big group is coming, target them and throw you`ll rack up kills fairly quicly by doing this.
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23 May 2013 07:02

I would just like to add that I can CONFIRM this achv DOES IN FACT carry over to your 2nd playthrough!

I worked HARD to get this on my first and gave up. On my 2nd playthrough to get Apocalyptic difficulty, I got this achv hella fast (still in Crossrroads for the first time). So it MUST be counting the kills from my first game!
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15 Jul 2017 05:57

This trophy can be a hassle due to the lack of environmental objects, and the toughness of some mobs.

The easiest way to do this trophy is in the Crossroads. There are a good deal of Zombies there that die instantly from some of the environmental objects. For the others in the area, you should weaken them down and then finish them off with environmental objects (as you should do on every creature in Apocalyptic). You can simply reload the area over and over again. You should get anywhere from 10 to 20 enviro. kills per visit.

- Killing targets with the growth/sticky bomb via the explosion does not count towards the trophy. Only targets that are killed by the impact of the bomb itself will be credited towards this trophy (Credit to Cauchy for finding this useful info)

- There is an alternate method (though really time consuming) to farm these kills utilizing a save file. It can be found here. (Credit to Mendel_Skimmel for the trick)

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Don't needlessly destroy objects in the game. THEY DO NOT RESPONSE, unlike mobs. In all locations where there are objects and mobs, we kill with the objects or finish them off.
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21 Jul 2011 10:04