DEUS EX: HUMAN REVOLUTION

DEUS EX: HUMAN REVOLUTION

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Lesser Evil

Lesser Evil

Deal with Mr. Carella's indiscretion.

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How to unlock the Lesser Evil achievement in DEUS EX: HUMAN REVOLUTION - Definitive Guide

**Spoiler**






This is the side quest where you are asked to retrieve security footage from Tindall that he is holding in order to blackmail Carella. This side quest is available once you complete the Sarif Manufacturing mission (1st true mission).

Step by step guide.

1. Talk to Carella in your office at the Sarif HQ (I believe your office is on the 2nd floor) and accept the quest.

2. Go to Tindall's apartment complex (it is to the upper-right as you leave Sarif HQ) and either hack the front gate or climb up the fire escape to gain entry. EDIT: The security gate is level 2, so you will need to upgrade your hacking. If you choose the fire escape method you will have to use a crate. **credit to Hirsute Dave for recommending these two notes be added**
EDIT #2: As Nod Nolan pointed out, there is also an adjacent fire escape with a wooden ramp that will also allow you to jump to Tindall's apartment complex.

3. Find Tindall's actual apartment and hack the computer (Note: While hacking the computer a goon will come in looking for Tindall. You will have to take care of him, because I don't believe he will leave otherwise).

4. Meet Tindall outside in a nearby alley where he will ask you to take care of a couple of pushers. They are around the corner and near a basketball court. You may either knock them out or kill them.... Whichever you decide.

5. Once taken care of, return to Tindall where you first met him and talk to him once again.

6. Once you have talked to Tindall meet up with Carella near the subway station.

7. Get your 10 Points.

If you have any questions feel free to PM me, or comment below. If you vote negative explain why...
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25 Aug 2011 07:12

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Just thought it might be an idea to mention that the security gate on the building is level 2 so you'll need to upgrade your capture software to hack it.

Moving a nearby crate onto the dumpster should give you access to the fire escape if you can't hack the gate.
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By Hirsute Dave on 25 Aug 2011 10:14
Thanks Hirsute Dave... Edited with those two notes under step 2.
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By AttackingMVP on 25 Aug 2011 14:07
I have one question... if I go to the computer in the apartment and read the mails, i always get an alert-phase and a guy's comming in the apartment, shooting at me... is this normal?
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By westling300 on 25 Aug 2011 14:10
Yes, it is... It is a thug who is trying to come after Tindall. I don't know if there is any other way around it. I'll edit a note in there about him coming in.
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By AttackingMVP on 25 Aug 2011 14:18
Also if you're going to vote negative... Explain why?
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By AttackingMVP on 25 Aug 2011 15:34
Just wanted to say, great guide, no idea why someone would vote it down.
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By barider2085 on 26 Aug 2011 19:13
i even closed the door and put the fridge to block it shut and the thug still enters - hide behind the bedroom door - when he searches the bathroom - run - or take down - or stun - or kill...
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By Big Dibs theDog on 27 Aug 2011 09:20
BTW - I voted positive as the info was helpful - but perhaps you should include that you need to "off" two drug dealers and that you will not be able to get pacifist achivement abd complete this side quest?
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By Big Dibs theDog on 27 Aug 2011 10:19
I simply neutralized both dealers with a quick B press and the mission completed fine.

also an easier way to enter the building rather than get a crate, is to climb the fire escape opposite Tindalls complex. There is a nice little bit of wood on the first level of the fire escape that you use to do a running jump onto the Tindall's complex.
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By Nod Nolan on 28 Aug 2011 06:17
In addition to this side quest, it is possible to reason with Tindall via the use of the Social Augmentation instead of following his wishes and taking out the two drug dealers.
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By ZNMS on 02 Sep 2011 12:01
To expand on what ZNMS wrote, you can choose the Appease option if you have the Social Augmentation skill. This will cause Tindall to hand over the tape immediately.
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By Cellar Attic on 29 Oct 2011 15:57
I used the tranquilizer rifle to knock them out. No problems and I got extra exp
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By wes coasn on 23 Dec 2011 20:07
I can knock 1 guy out with tranq gun but when I shoot the other one with it, he always dies, no matter where I shoot him. Nod Nolan, how can you take them both out with "B" when they're standing face to face?
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By A4TH BrokenHalo on 30 Dec 2011 19:32
By using the augmentation take two targets, i just used B with the first one and stun gun with the second.
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By JasoX FIN on 09 Mar 2012 04:07
For some reason, I forgot to do this side quest and I'm in China now. Do you go back to Detroit at some point later on and, if so, maybe I can wrap this achievmeent up then?
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By Mr Granstaff on 24 Sep 2013 12:41
gate security code is 0002 , apartment entry code is 8974 if you want in fast
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By raidenhardcore on 24 Apr 2015 11:56
Found him on 3rd floor on bench outside Jensons office.
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By Oxmix on 21 Nov 2019 04:07
Dibs do you know for sure if you have to kill them?

I did because I am just playing this playthrough guns-blazing, but I thought one of my friends said you can just knock them out with a tranq. I know Tindall made some comment about just making sure they didn't bother him anymore, to which Adam follows up with "You want me to kill them?". He then just makes a comment about doing whatever you need to which led me to believe you can just knock them out.

If anyone else knows for sure please comment and I will edit it with the info.
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By AttackingMVP on 27 Aug 2011 21:55
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Missable! Lesser Evil is a sidequest in Detroit that is initiated by entering your office on the 3rd floor of Sarif Industries HQ and reading your email (password is in a Pocket Secretary on your desk). After the Manufacturing Plant incident (Story Mission M1), return to your office and Carella will plead for your help. Ask for a reward and agree to help him.

Walkthrough:

Carella is being threatened by a man named Tindall, whom you can find on the way to Apartment Blocks north of Sarif HQ. He is leaning against a red container. First you need to hack into his apartment, on your left as you head towards the Basketball Court.

Go through his computer then go back and talk to him. Tindall will reveal that he has his own troubles. You can either threaten him to cough up the evidence, or help him deal with 2 Punks located at the Basketball Court further up. Neutralize the punks with Non-Lethal means if you’re going for Pacifist

Whichever path you take, speak with Carella near the stairs to the subway. He rewards you with a Laser Targeting System upgrade (if you asked for a reward earlier) and the trophy.

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*Save*

This should the first side mission you gain for when you get outside onto the streets of Detroit. After you've spoken to David Sarif in his office, you'll need to head to your office where upon you'll meet Tim Carella. Quick note; Check your computer for a received email from Greg Thorpe.

This is a two part side mission. The save is for the two drug dealers Tims ex colleague Tindall needs you take out. Save before you deal with them just in case they go hostile. You can simply walk up to them, so try a stun gun + quick takedown combo on them.

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After completing the entry at the plant, while in the Sharif Industries building, you will receive a message that you are expected in your office. Come there, talk, perform, get a trophy.
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30 Aug 2011 13:29

To quickly complete it, you can use social media. a proofreader so as not to have to deal with the bandits.
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10 Jul 2012 11:37