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Harm's Way

Harm's Way

You caused 5 unintentional suicides

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How to unlock the Harm's Way achievement in Dishonored - Definitive Guide

SPOILERS AHEAD

There are several ways to provoke suicides, the most well known one from the trailers being to wait until a guard shoots at you, freezing time, possessing him and moving in front of the bullet. I found this very difficult.

A much easier one is to fry people in a Wall of Light. Unfortunately, this does not seem to work with rewired walls, as _you_ have rewired the wall and hence _you_ have killed anyone who walks into it.

The best location is therefore the Wall of Light in the entry hall during 'Lady Boyle's Last Party'*. Possess guests and run them up close to the wall then jump out - they will stagger forward a step or two to vomit and get fried by the wall. You have an ample supply. Just don't be seen by a guard possessing one of them (as it triggers their alert response and the Overseer with the giant music box will make life difficult - you could first possess and deal with him if you like). Save after every kill and you should be fine. In addition, you cannot rewire this wall, so you must suicide guests into it, as guards and the three Boyle women will not trigger it.

*Credit to Foxfire49 for the location and for telling me about it when I asked him for assistance.
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12 Oct 2012 02:36

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You can also get this pretty easily in the next mission afterward where you are hunting the Lord Regent. Once you are inside the tower, enter the security room for the first Wall of Light and re-wire it. Then possess guards and walk them into it. (I.E. End possession right before the Wall of Light) =]
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By Foxfire49 on 12 Oct 2012 13:38
Actually the guards don't work for this achievement. Fried 20+ of them with the wall of light and it doesn't work. Supposedly it HAS to be civilians, which is why Lady Boyle's party works...
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By Minioger on 13 Oct 2012 08:15
@Minioger - Not entirely...yes guards are not affected by the wall of light...but if you use a re-wire tool they are...and I made sure they counted...got 3 of my suicides on the civilians at the Boyle's party...went to next mission...re-wired the wall killed two guards...cheevo popped...

So either I got lucky or they do count...will replay with my 2nd account and make sure...
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By Foxfire49 on 13 Oct 2012 13:43
Maybe there needs to be at least one civilian? I killed 20 guards with it rewired.... and even a couple weepers. Wouldn't pop at all. Tried saving and reloading, everything. Was going to try it again at the party and just kill 5 people there...
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By Minioger on 13 Oct 2012 22:39
I've thrown guards in it all day long, no cheevo
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By ArmaggedonPSA on 14 Oct 2012 16:27
In addition to above, I moved 15 civillians into the wall at lady boyle's party, no cheevo, anyone else getting this?
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By ArmaggedonPSA on 14 Oct 2012 17:02
@Gamer in Denial and others - I got this cheevo through a replayed chapter. After I finished my high-chaos playthrough I re-played 'Lady Boyle's Last Party' and used the first few guests in the rooms immediately inside the party. After jumping out right before the wall 5 times it popped. So I don't think that is the problem. Not sure what it could be.
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By Chimaera36 on 14 Oct 2012 19:05
Not working for me with guards either. Done 7 in one area and nothing. Will try the party method but I think this achievement is a little glitchy from the sound of it.
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By ponypo2001 on 15 Oct 2012 15:34
Re-wiring walls does NOT work. A guard cannot commit suicide on a wall that is, as far as they know, not meant to harm them. YOU are rewiring the wall therefore YOU are killing them whether you walk them into it or not.
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By Ibanez V7 on 16 Oct 2012 13:11
Worked for me with 5 civilians at the party, all other methods didn't work for using the light walls.
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By Calex dEUS on 18 Oct 2012 10:14
Everytime I send a guest into the wall, everyone panics and the guards come. What am I doing wrong?
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By Tao Logos on 21 Oct 2012 20:51
Solution edited to reflect consensus that rewired walls do not work.
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By Chimaera36 on 21 Oct 2012 20:59
PowerPyx has a good video and he doesn't even mess with the guards:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV85b0CTgtQ
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By Tao Logos on 22 Oct 2012 04:19
Got this eventually by killing all 16 guards at the party, then being free to possess the guests without trouble.
Rewiring doesn't work. Guards don't work
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By NabaDwA on 28 Oct 2012 15:56
Useless guide
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By Sneaky G Wizard on 08 Nov 2012 21:29
I found it hard without removing the two guards in the hallway first. If you pickpocket the closet key (where the control panel is for the wall of light), you can possess the guards then kill them inside the closet. Had no problems once they were out of the way. Nice guide.
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By SwervinCurvin on 19 Nov 2012 04:19
Guide worked like a charm!
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By Seraph Xero XII on 21 Nov 2012 05:46
I got this in Lady Boyle's party with some difficulty as once you fry three guests or so all the other guests seem to leave the party. This is a rare case of intelligent AI. I was able to find my last couple of guests in the kitchen to get it to pop. Frying guards didn't work for me. Also please add to the guide that the maids are impervious to the wall of light as are the Boyle ladies and guards.
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By Resident Vegan on 30 Nov 2012 17:01
If you are having trouble with pushing the guest into the Light Wall at the party try throwing the girl guest to the left of the light wall and the guy guest to the right. The guys have a bit more push when you push them and the girls barley have any push. I hope this helps people that are having a tough time. Also make sure you have at least 6-7 Masa blue things 9 would be the best for this achievement also take out the guards with those backpack things they dont let you use posses.
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By A Batwoman on 17 May 2013 22:32
I find Lady Boyle's party is the best place to try for this achievement. I removed only the guard that's standing by the wall of light, and as long as the overseer with the music box doesn't see me possessing someone, I'm fine. Other guests are fine as well, they just get confused and do nothing. As long as you re-wire the alarm panel, and leave the wall of light panel untouched (re-wiring does NOT work for this achievement), possessing the guests (no maids, guards, or boyle sisters) and un-possessing them right before the wall will make this achievement pop.
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By FantasticMsFoxx on 23 May 2013 08:31
Also, there cannot be any guards (namely, that one pesky overseer with the music box) around when you un-possess a guest. This WILL cause the other guards to come whether or not you have re-wired the alarm panel.
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By FantasticMsFoxx on 23 May 2013 08:33
I kept getting spotted, so what I did was just kill the Overseer with the music box first and then quickly possess the five guests, ignoring all the hostile guards.
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By Moozipan Cheese on 06 Jul 2013 14:27
I do not have enough runes to buy possesion II, what do I need to do?
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By AmazingSpider97 on 11 Nov 2013 14:57
@AmazingSpider97, you need more runes. Start from the beginning of the game and just collect all the runes and only put them into Possession.

+1 for the solution.
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By FFX Brotherhood on 17 Jan 2014 13:46
This works, but I had trouble. The guards were always seeing me and attacking me afterwards. After getting rid of the guard and overseer in the room with the wall of light, I could possess 2 guests without problems. After killing the 3rd, the guests started to panic. At that moment, the remaining guards were hostile toward me. So, I had to find guests hiding further away. I needed 2 or 3 possessions to walk them from their spot to the wall of light, with guards shooting me each time I was leaving a body.

Still, +1 for the solution.
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By Tanelorn82 on 29 Jan 2014 13:47
I had trouble with this as well. Everyone panicked after the first guest died and I could only find 3 more guests in the after that. I searched the entire mansion and there were not any more. I ended up going outside and getting the last suicide by getting the getting a guard to shoot himself with bend time and possession. That was a pain...

Anyway, this solution is good but everyone might want to be very careful not to panic the guests because there may not be enough left in the mansion if that happens. Or I just got unlucky.
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By GuruThaGreat on 17 Feb 2014 05:14
While guards are chasing you, you can still possess a guest. At that stage you'll have to use two possessions to walk them to the wall.
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By thomaskorat on 09 May 2014 19:05
Completely useless. Too many guards around, no way to deal with them without alarming guests or maids, and suiciding a guest just agitates every one around. Don't waste your time with this failed method.
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By CruelCahal on 04 Dec 2014 01:40
This one is crazy annoying, but it's much easier to run around the party than trying to use Bend Time AND Possession with amazing timing.....FIVE times.

I thought I'd stumbled on a nice method on the Tower mission by possessing guards and having them fall into the water. No dice. I guess the word "UNintentional" really is true here.
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By BloodngunsMrphy on 14 Nov 2015 20:21
As soon as I walk a civ through the wall everyone runs away and there's like only 2 or three that stays in the building. I've been following multiple guides and vids to the letter but they keep running away and exiting the area. There HAS to be another way to get this. I spent five hours trying to get this achievement in Lady Boyle's party but no success. It's the same outcome every.fucking.time.
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By Melancholy Jay on 09 Oct 2016 10:16
You barely get enough guards if you manage to sneak in 1 or 2 kills, you will need a lot of mana potions though for possession since it uses so much.
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By Seitzz on 29 Jan 2019 05:35
Straight up does not work. As soon as you kill one guest this way, the rest panic and run away and all the guards come swarming in.
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By EmagDrolBot on 24 Dec 2019 19:06
I’m not sure what’s going wrong, but I can’t get this achievement to trigger. Does it need to be 5 suicides in the same save slot, or you can reload each time?

Edit: I got it! I guess it needs to be 5 suicides on the same slot. Before trying I killed 2 music box guards & main hallway guard too. Previously all the guests despawned, but this time they were hiding in that room you meet Rat-Mask.
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By ALoneWolf42 on 26 Feb 2020 03:17
Worked for me
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By DAVEI87 on 16 Jan 2024 15:46
I did it at the party as well, did it with 5 civilians, but WITHOUT rewiring the wall. So just as a note the maids won't work since they are considered to be okay to pass... Just get 5 normal guests (no boyle sisters) and don't rewire the wall and it works fine...
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By Minioger on 20 Oct 2012 05:38
I'm not sure why you say "Just don't be seen by a guard possessing one of them", as walking a guest into the wall of light gets the guards agitated too. Seems the best thing to do is take out the nearby guards first, then work the guests as fast you can. Guards are going to come, so be ready for it.

This more or less goes along with what Tao is asking... I found no way to so this without getting guards alerted. As I mentioned, you are just going to have to deal with it and work fast.
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By Onza on 21 Oct 2012 21:37
Requires some prep work. I knocked out all the upstairs guards then possessed the stairway guard and both Overseers (because the one in the dining area came over when I took out the first one in a typical BS move that this game loves to pull) and knocked them out upstairs. Then I took most of the maids upstairs as well to stop their pointless milling around the entrance hall. Finally I got to the guests. Luckily I had the Spirited II charm and used only 5 potions to get it all done.
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By Gilbert Prime on 15 Oct 2021 07:37
For anyone wondering why this is not working, DO NOT REWIRE A WALL OF LIGHT. Internally, when you rewire the wall of light, the game flags the wall as YOUR weapon therefore it counts the death in the game as a kill in YOUR favor. That's why you need to avoid rewiring the Wall of Light and only use civilians (Maids and Guards are immune) for this achievement.
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By RedPapaSmurf on 30 Apr 2016 06:00
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Foxfire49/Chimaera36 found a very good Solution. For this you need 3+5 Runes to get the Power Possession II, then start the 5th Mission Lady Boyle's Last Party.

Now posses the Overseer, walk him away and kill him. Now you can posses the Party guests (no Guards, no servant and not the Boyles) without the Overseer can you prevent this. Now walk five Party guests to the Wall of Light and jump out before passing the wall
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12 Oct 2012 13:23

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Gonna comment this in your guide as well...

You can also get this pretty easily in the next mission afterward where you are hunting the Lord Regent. Once you are inside the tower, enter the security room for the first Wall of Light and re-wire it. Then possess guards and walk them into it. (I.E. End possession right before the Wall of Light) =]
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By Foxfire49 on 12 Oct 2012 15:47
That video makes it look so easy... Sadly it's not.
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By Onza on 14 Oct 2012 20:56
@Gamer In Denial: well i said that i my guide, didt i?
@Donza: Done at my first try, its very easy. What troubles you?
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By King fiShiZ on 14 Oct 2012 22:53
Does this count as killing people or can you still get the Clean Hands cheevo if you do this?
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By DARTH MAUL 1234 on 15 Oct 2012 06:27
Doesn't pop if you use guards when hunting the Lord Regent on a rewired fence. Just tried it twice, possessed about 8 guards into it each time, enough to make the whale oil run out and the fence shut down.
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By sickboy006 on 19 Oct 2012 05:50
Well the Guide dont say "use Guards"? Thats why you Thumb down? Just load the 5th Mission and use Party guests
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By King fiShiZ on 19 Oct 2012 07:43
PS. Thumbs up me, as it did eventually work as advertised... But what a pain.
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By Onza on 19 Oct 2012 14:18
As King said: just the guests will credit you the achievement. No guards, no staff, not any of the Boyles. I got it the first time I picked only guests to walk into the Wall of Light. Thumbs up.
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By cobalos on 20 Oct 2012 16:25
I ended up having to go all over to get guests, they werent all that close. I had to kill a bunch of guards and other overseers to make it possible, but basically used this method.
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By caelich on 21 Oct 2012 16:51
I suggest if you are going to do it at the party, make sure you incapacitate all the overseers with the music player first. It took me several tries but I finally got it.
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By DillionDay on 27 Oct 2012 22:19
Foxfire's method is incorrect. If you rewire the trap, then you are the person making the kill.
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By Guirec730 on 12 Dec 2012 00:44
maids work fine @Orza
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By bryan dot exe on 13 Jan 2013 07:31
I did this one last night, maybe I got lucky bc all the guests I possessed were either in the room were the fish is on the big table (where I used the wine to refill my mana) or in the room towards the room with the "wall of light" (where the lady who tells you to get her some wine), not ONE bit of trouble with the guards at all!
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By Warboy925 on 26 Mar 2014 05:00
I'm not sure... I did get it, but it took me like ten frustrating tries. Really not sure what I was doing wrong. Every time five party guests (and only guests, no guards, maids or potential targets) went snap crackle and pop when I walked them into the fence, but no achievement. I even started trying other things, like rewire the alarm and rewire the light wall. Watched the video several times. Eventually did, just like the video (no touch the panels) and it worked, so I really have no idea why it took me so long.
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By Onza on 19 Oct 2012 14:16
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If you would like to get this achievement by getting guards to shoot themselves, first you will need to earn the Bend Time 02 power (10 runes total) and the Possession 02 power (7 runes total).

Equip the Bend Time power and alert a pistol-wielding guard. As soon as he draws his weapon and aims it at you, freeze time. In the period between you pulling the left trigger and the power activating, he will have fired so don't feel you need to wait for him to shoot.

Then choose Possession and possess the guard. Now this is important, DO NOT walk through the path of the bullet (you should be able to clearly see the bullet hanging in the air close to where you'd expect it to be), doing so will cause the bullet to "dislodge" and disappear. Make sure you walk around the bullet and even then, make sure the guard isn't situated too close to the bullet. The moment you "leave" him, he will lean forward as if to throw up and could place him outside the path of the bullet. This will happen even though time is frozen.

When time resumes, he will have shot himself. Do that five times and the achievement is yours. I did this on mission 6, in Dunwall Tower.
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26 Nov 2012 09:06

Here's a visual aid for anyone who needs this achievement, its best to get it in the boyle mission and if you just follow this guide you'll have it with no problems,
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03 Mar 2013 21:46

With enemies that have a ranged attack, you can stop time right after they shot, then posses them and walk arround their shot bullet. If time goes on again, they get shot by their own bullet. Do this 5 times in the same level as it occurred to me, that it won't work if done in multiple levels.
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01 Aug 2021 00:00

The easiest way to do this is at Lady Boyles Party thanks to the large amount of guests and the wall of light. Just possess any guest (not the Boyles, guards or maids) and jump out just before hitting the wall. They'll stumble forwards and hit it.

If you're trying not to cause too much fuss possess the guards first, bring them into the oil room in the room next to the wall of light and knock out/kill them first as if they see this they'll sound the alarm.

Important note: You can't rewire the wall to kill anyone else besides the guests. It has to be 'accidental' so any of the Boyles, guards or maids can't be used.
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11 May 2015 00:59

High Chaos

Powers Required: Possession and possibly Bend Time

This is a bit of a tricky achievement. You must kill 5 people by making them suicide. There are only a couple of ways to do this. The popular method has been on Mission 5 while at the party. There is a Wall of Light there. You must possess the guard guarding it and walk him into the bathroom (make sure no one is in there of course). Knock him out. Now go back and you can possess the various guests and walk them towards the Wall of Light. Right before you get crossing, quickly release possession so that they stumble and burn to ash. This is your sure-shot way to getting the achievement, as some people say guards/thugs count on different Walls of Light, but others claim it isn't unlocking that way.

Alternate Method: If an enemy is shooting at you, bend time so that the bullet is in mid-air. Now possess the enemy that is shooting and stand him in front of his own bullet.

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