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The Nuclear Option
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How to unlock the The Nuclear Option achievement in Fallout 4 - Definitive Guide
amenazamenor JF
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07 Dec 2015 20:26
This achievement is obtained by completing the main storyline following the quests of one of these factions: Minutemen, Railroad or Brotherhood. You only need to do one of these, not all three.
While the other guide is helpful, it is rather chaotic, so I made a chart that shows how to obtain all the achievements with only one save / reload. My guide shows how to unlock "The Nuclear Option" while aligned with the Brotherhood, but I also indicate when to diverge from these steps, if you want to play the Railroad or Minutemen endings.
Scroll down for a more detailed explanation (inside the Spoiler Tag, as it is an awful lot of text).
For starters, keep in mind a thing: having high charisma will help you when you'll have to balance several factions at once. I recommend having at least 6-7 points of charisma, and using "charisma-enhancer" gear like Glasses, Hats or Suits, or even using, when neccessary, beer or some drugs as Grape Mentats or Day Tripper that give charisma points for a few minutes.
Open this thing for the full explanation:
START MAIN MISSIONS
As soon as you're out in the Commonwealth, you'll be able to explore freely. Follow the main quest for a while, and, after completing the quest "Reunions" the Brotherhood of Steel will be available. That moment, or a little later (after "Shattered", for example), is a good time to join the available factions and advance on their questlines. I recommend advancing until your current mission is "The Glowing Sea", that way you'll have a higher level to face these missions.
Do three of these secondary missions, and the next mission, "Taking Independence", will be available. Do it, and then the next one, "Old guns". Upon completing these, you'll have all Minutemen achievements, and you can forget of this faction for the rest of the game if you wish.
The Old Guns achievement in Fallout 4 worth 45 pointsComplete "Old Guns"
Time to join the Brotherhood. You'll find a military radio channel that will lead you into a police station, where you find some Brotherhood members. You'll have to complete a few missions until you become a member. "Reveille", "Fire Support", "Call To Arms", and, finally, "Semper Invicta".
You can do a few more quests for them, and I reccommend to do it. These are available after you complete the main mission "Reunions", and are "Shadow Of Steel", "Tour Of Duty" and "Show No Mercy".
Railroad time. You'll only be able to do a couple of missions for them at this point. These are "Road to Freedom" and "Tradecraft", in which you join the faction.
Time to deviate from the main quests and work in the factions again. As soon as you complete "Institutionalized", start "Underground Undercover" for the Railroad, and advance in the quest until your objective is
continue working for Father.
Then, switch to Brotherhood missions. Complete "From Within", "Outside The Wire" and "Liberty Reprimed". Now "Blind Betrayal" will be available, but DON'T COMPLETE IT. If you do, Railroad quests will turn unavailable. So, let's get back to the Institute.
REACH THE DIVISION POINT
Complete "Synth Retention". Then, in "The Battle Of Bunker Hill", you'll have two optional objetives. Choose to
warn the Railroad, and do what they want you to do.
This is the DIVISION POINT where the different paths to the ending start. I believe this is a good moment to get all miscellaneous achievements done (Bobbleheads, Miscellaneous Quests, Secondary Quests, Giant Enemies, Settlement Hapiness, etc) so you can then pick tne ending you want and conserve all of the benefits of these tasks.
And here's the important point. As soon as the next mission, "Mass Fusion" asks you to make a choice, MAKE A MANUAL SAVE. I'd create 3 or 4 saves in that moment, for precaution. Write the location and time of the save in a piece of paper so you can recognise it easily later on.
And now, you'll have 2 different paths to the ending.
PATH 1: RAILROAD + INSTITUTE
In "Mass Fusion", choose
go to Mass Fusion.
This will turn you into a permanent enemy of the Brotherhood, making their quests dissapear. But you can still work for the Institute and Railroad.
Complete "Pinned" and "Powering up" for the Institute.
Continue with the railroad questline. Dependind of the secondary missions you have done for them, you'll have to do a quest named "Operation Ticonderoga", or you may jump directly to the next mission, "Precipice of War". Anyways, complete those and the next one, "Rockets' Red Glare", for the last Railroad achievement.
Stop here, because the next Railroad mission ends the main questline. Time to go back to the Institute and complete their missions (You can make another save here and go back later for the Railroad ending, if you wish). "End Of The Line" will turn the Railroad hostile, and, because you already did "Rocket's Red Glare", you'll skip "Airship Down" and jump directly to the final Institute mission, "Nuclear Family".
This will turn you into a permanent enemy of the Institute, making their quests dissapear. You'll be able to work for the Railroad at this point, but we won't do that.
As soon as you finish "Mass Fusion", "Spoils Of War" will be available. Complete it (make a save here if you want to do the Minutemen ending later), and go on the next quest, "Blind Betrayal". Now we can complete it without messing the other achievements.
Why do I say that? Because, as soon as you complete this quest, the next, "Tactical thinking" will start automatically... and it will block the Railroad quests, making them unobtainable. But at this point tat doesn't matter, because we will obtain them in the other path.
After "Tactical Thinking", complete "Ad Victoriam"
Railroad and Minutemen have their own "Nuclear Option" too, but only one of those is required for the achievement. So if you don't want to end the game with the Brotherhood, reload one of the two optional saves I mentioned, and complete the game with either of those factions to get the achievement.
Hope it helps!
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39 Comments
Just what i needed!
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By F1SH M0NG3R on 12 Dec 2015 19:02
So helpful, not confusing at all.
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By CatBrofist on 09 Dec 2015 05:37
I don't understand why more people haven't up voted this , thank you perfect guide !
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By Yo K Trap on 09 Dec 2015 20:59
^ Agreed!
Having a flow chart is insanely helpful. Thank you for putting this together.
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By Shred Asics 13 on 09 Dec 2015 21:36
Best solution hands down.
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By eHeadaches on 09 Dec 2015 22:39
Thanks so much for the chart - greatly appreciated!
At Mass Fusion, you must hack an "Advanced" terminal, right?
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By UltraAmbiguous on 14 Dec 2015 12:43
Right ? This guy is on some other level over here with this flow chart
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By Yo K Trap on 10 Dec 2015 05:15
Which is the best fraction to end with so that I have the most fraction related and secondary quests to do after any of the Nuclear Options? E.g. when I choose the Brotherhood, can I still do the Minutemen farm recovery missions or will they be unavailable?
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By maubush on 17 Dec 2015 07:22
Anyone having an issue where they are unable to speak to the brotherhood leader to hand in the quest, I just can't interact with him
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By True Marvellous on 17 Dec 2015 19:11
On the molecular level you have build device with railroad, will it be a problem if I did this in sanctuary with minutemen?
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By BiGPaPaRu on 21 Dec 2015 22:21
So will the "Prepared for the Future" achievement also pop at the same time as this achievement? I guess I shall find out soon enough.
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By HolyHalfDead on 04 Jan 2016 23:56
@HolyHa1fDead, yes it wil.
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By amenazamenor JF on 05 Jan 2016 10:30
When you say manual save do you mean quicksave? Or is there a way to copy our saves? Do our quicksaves disappear?
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By THE MADD ELF on 06 Jan 2016 14:31
No, I mean using the "Save game" in the pause menu, not the "Quick save", because quicksaves are overwritten periodically. Regular saves aren't.
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By amenazamenor JF on 06 Jan 2016 14:34
If I wanted to do the Railroad ending first, for like my main save, and then go back to the Optional Save #1 and do the Institute ending with that save? Would that be ok or would it not work? Thanks.
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By KinglyKing Vee on 08 Jan 2016 00:45
Yes, it is completely fine. You receive the nuclear option with every faction ending besides the Institute. Do if you do that and then follow the rest of the guide you'll get all the achievements equally.
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By amenazamenor JF on 08 Jan 2016 10:38
Okay, I think I know what happened. I was playing on the hardest difficulty: Survivalist, using stealth and a knife as my primary weapon. I also have the melee perk maxed out which means that it does double damage to everyone in front of you. I normally play alone and so I suspect that due to the manic nature of battle I must have hit Z1-14 enough to make him go hostile. He's obviously not very forgiving! I reloaded a save at the start of the mission (fortunately I'd save just before you teleport into the control room to talk with Z1-14) and kept checking before I did any more saves that he was still "green" in VATS. It seems that when you get to the very end and after the mission completes and awards you XP you get another boost of XP for some reason. It was after this second boost that the achievement popped. Also quite interest is that when it did glitch you couldn't' even jump off the top of the building. It was like an invisible barrier. When Z1 wasn't hostile the invisible barrier wasn't there and you can jump to your death, if you felt so inclined.
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By Euler13 on 09 Jan 2016 15:19
Great, thank you. But I'm not sure why it says that you cannot do Blind Betrayal because I did it forever ago and I still can do Railroad missions. Only after Tactical Thinking do they turn hostile.
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By NegligentTaco on 12 Jan 2016 03:53
I was quite far in before seeing this. If I already built the transporter with the brotherhood instead of the railroad is it still doable as described?
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By Hott Cosby on 17 Jan 2016 23:16
Hott Cosby, yes, it is. Siding with the railroad makes the process a little easier, but you can follow the guide if you build the device with other faction. Just... when you visit the railroad and Desdemona confronts you about not building the device with them, be careful with the dialog options.
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By amenazamenor JF on 17 Jan 2016 23:35
Brilliant solution, just what I was after.
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By modelay on 02 Feb 2016 19:58
Thanks for this guide and the work you put in, extremely helpful!
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By Full Tilt Panic on 06 Feb 2016 16:08
Seriously you deserve a standing ovation for this guide it is so straight forward and easy to follow. I wish more people would follow your layout when writing guides because this is amazing. Thank you for all your time and hard work.
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By BEERME7 on 07 Feb 2016 02:38
Seriously you deserve a standing ovation for this guide it is so straight forward and easy to follow. I wish more people would follow your layout when writing guides because this is amazing. Thank you for all your time and hard work.
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By BEERME7 on 07 Feb 2016 03:53
This is the best achievement guide I have used. Very nice work. Thank you for your time and effort.
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By eternal noobski on 23 Feb 2016 11:41
Nooo - got a gamebreaking bug following the BoS ending. Avoiding spoilers, it's the bug where you get teleported to your next objective with this really bright light, but before the light dies away, you get teleported away. Can't complete the final quest. >:-(
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By BWV 538 on 27 Mar 2016 18:14
I built the transporter with the Minutemen & went through the main quest line through Synth Retention & still got Underground Undercover when I went to visit the Railroad. Thought I was screwed out of that quest when I saw this. Phew!
Edit: If you did the same as I, when you talk to Desdemona to obtain Underground Undercover, you will have to warn her for the optional Battle Of Bunker Hill objective (as that quest will automatically be given to you upon completing Synth Retention) before you can talk to her to receive Underground Undercover. Simply warn her for the Battle Of Bunker Hill quest then ignore it & proceed to talk to her again to get Underground Undercover & you can follow the rest of the graphic as normal.
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By Schinderdiv on 13 Dec 2016 08:49
Great help! Thank you so much
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By Tsuke35 on 27 Dec 2016 21:38
Makes it easier with the flow chart. Well done
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By I Val B I on 06 Jan 2017 21:01
Superb work. Congratulations and thank you!
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By FabioBala678 on 12 Mar 2017 16:19
I had to do a whole second run through for the Railroad and the Brotherhood Acheivements... accidentally saved over my pre-Mass Fusion save... so I downloaded the flow chart and marked off all of the acheivements that I already had in Paint :) Thank you
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By ZttackFrmBhind on 02 Nov 2018 14:41
Excellent guide,thumbs up...I was dreading mucking up the end achievements..But got everyone with this guide..
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By LUNGS 66 on 24 Dec 2019 01:08
Thank you so much for this breakdown!
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By Slavikk on 19 Jan 2023 22:44
Your welcome! I don't remember exactly, @UltraAmbiguous, but it is possible. Anyways, given that it is a main mission, if there's an advanced terminal, there should be a way of finding the passcode around in case your character hasn't hacking skills.
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By amenazamenor JF on 14 Dec 2015 14:14
Seriously you deserve a standing ovation for this guide it is so straight forward and easy to follow. I wish more people would follow your layout when writing guides because this is amazing. Thank you for all your time and hard work.
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By BEERME7 on 07 Feb 2016 03:14
Only a thought... Why can't you complete Blind Betrayal straight after Liberty Primed, especially if you elect to save Danse through dialogue options? Isn't it the next mission Tactical Thinking that the Railroad get annoyed? I'm only asking as I want to get Danses perk, before the split save, then I can get X6-88 perk the final play through and have all perks. Your thoughts and advice would be welcome.
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By alandonovan on 19 Feb 2016 21:57
That would be the Minutemen ending. If you reach it from the point I marked as "Optional Save #2" in the guide, and as long as you don't complete missions as the Brotherhood's "Tactical Thinking", Railroad's "Rockets' Red Glare" or Institute's "End Of The Line", you'll end the main quest allied with all the factions except for the Institute. Some type of secondary quests from these factions will not be available anymore, but you'll still be able to work for P.A.M. on the Railroad, for example.
Actually, I believe there's no way to turn the Minutemen hostile (except for shooting them in the face for no reason), so if you complete the game with the Institute, Brotherhood or Railroad you'll still have the Minutemen missions available.
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By amenazamenor JF on 17 Dec 2015 12:17
For some reason this achievement glitched for me on the Railroad route. Somewhere towards the assault on the reactor Z1-14 turned hostile and every time I spawn in a new area he starts attacking me. I have to keep taking him down, but you cannot kill him; he just gets back up after a short time and starts attacking me again. When I get to the end I blow up the Institute, talk to Desdemona, get the XP for the mission, and get told it is complete, but... no achievement. Plus I cannot leave the top of the mass fusion building; fast travel is not available, probably because Z1 is considered an enemy and he's too close. I did a search and I've found others talking about this glitch. I suspect that I'm going to either have to go back to an earlier save and redo the entire mission again or get the achievement on my BoS completion. I absolutely loved this game and this is the first bug in the entire game I have found. I was level 66 when I completed the main story line and I've still got more exploring and side missions to do!
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By Euler13 on 08 Jan 2016 23:24
@alandonovan Looks like it isn't a common thing, and maybe it has been patched already, but it happened to me and a few others: as soon as I completed Blind Betrayal, Tactical Thinking started automatically. When I went to the Railroad with this quest active, I couldn't interact with any character, so all Railroad quests were blocked.
Some people didn't have any trouble, so maybe this was a glitch on my playthrough. I just didn't want to guide anyone into an error, so I preferred to write the quest guide that way, just to be sure nobody runs with that same problem.
So, if you want to complete the mission after Liberty Reprimed, try to see if it works fine for you and you are able to get all the perks, but make a save before ending Blind Betrayal so you can go back in case this problem happens.
*Edit 1* So during Mass Fusion for Institute before you use the relay save as this quest makes the BoS hate you. So... Up till this quest you're good to do everything for all three factions. If you are about to make a faction hate you, you will get a notification. cancel and save before.
And you're good up until End Of the line for the Institution for the Railroad
You can get this from Minutemen, Railroad, and BoS. Don't worry about Minutemen
Brotherhood of Steel - Talk to the old man, since you sided with BoS you will already be at C.I.T. Pack some explosions and energy weapons and fight the Synths. Go through the hatch, keep going to the core. Take the elevator to get a password from Father. Use the Terminal and sound the alarm to avoid more pointless fighting. Keep running to the core. Talk to elder to leave but Ingrum will talk to you about saving a Synth or not to save the Synth. You teleport to the roof and watch the explosion.
Railroad - Listen to Desdemona for the plan. Teleport and you see some tin on tin action.... (not like that). You're friends port in. Drop through hatch keep fighting (explosives and energy weapons). Run to the core, go to the elevator get the password from Father, use the terminal (you can engage the alarm if you want but it's not needed). Go to the core, fight some more. Use the door activate the core. You get ported again, save or don't save the Synth. Go to the Relay then you're outside. Talk to Desdemona and set the explosion off and Achievement..
Read my guide for this one if you have made the saves I've been talking about.
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I am doing this quest on behalf of the minutemen and even with this guide I cannot find where I am suppose to jump in the water and find this tunnel. I believe the raider camp you are referring to is the Wreck of the USS Riptide? If so I still dont see a tunnel anywhere. I have been searching for hours and there is no videos or pictures anywhere online showing where this tunnel is. if you could help me a little more id appreciate it.
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By YRDiesel on 13 Nov 2015 06:25
For starters, learn English. Please someone ban this guy from posting ever again. Literally no help.
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By l Forza I on 14 Nov 2015 20:05
Can you earn this achievement while aligning with brotherhood of steel?
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By DudeWithTheFace on 16 Nov 2015 22:43
Yes you can
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By VvWhiteFangvV on 17 Nov 2015 00:47
What did I just read? Can I unread it? Absolutely no help at all -1
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By on 25 Nov 2015 20:10
Honestly, you cannot understand anything in any of your guides. The lack of grammar and proofreading is ridiculous.
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By Unky Ky on 25 Nov 2015 22:45
what do you people want then a way to do the mission or what will be missed at certain points. im about to just delete all solutions as you people just complain and don't actually leave real ways to make the guide better.
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By VvWhiteFangvV on 13 Dec 2015 21:32
I would say the downvotes are because the guide has nothing to do with the mission mentioned in the achievement description and is just an overall guide for the game which is already in a dozen achievement solutions.
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By matdan on 14 Dec 2015 03:41
Jeez still, that’s some way to repay somebody who basically at least tried to help. I got what I looked for in here
enter one of the following commands into the command console, (it's the '@ key on my board)
doesn't make a difference which you choose to get the achievement. you only need to choose one.
setstage 0010c64a 2000 (siding with the minutemen)
setstage 0010c64b 1000 (siding with the brotherhood of steel)
setstage 0010c64c 1000 (siding with the railroad)
:)
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MISSABLE!
Quest Givers: Elder Maxson (Brotherhood), Preston (Minutemen) or Desdomona (Railroad)
Location: The Prydwen (Brotherhood), The Castle (Minutemen) or Railroad HQ (Railroad)
The Brotherhood, the Minutemen and the Railroad all lead to this achievement. This is essentially the end game quest for these three factions. While they all have different routes to get to this point, the end goal is the same (spoiler free) and it will unlock prior to "Prepared for the Future".
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MISSABLE! - One of two ending quests. If you complete the quest "Nuclear Family" then this ending will become locked.
This trophy can be achieved by finishing the final quest for either The Railroad, Brotherhood of Steel or the Minutemen. Each Faction has a very similar ending to each other, which is why this trophy is universal to all three factions.
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This guide was translated automatically.
The trophy drops after a few minutes of completing the quest, DON'T PANIC ))
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I got the trophy only when I completed this quest for the 2nd time for the brotherhood, and it dropped right away, without waiting
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By derik85 on 30 Jan 2016 00:39
This is a task for the "Underground".
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By Chibaba on 10 Jan 2016 21:58
There is a bug, after teleporting to the Institute - it is noted that I spoke with Z1-14 and there is no one at the Institute. The elevator is blocked. You just need to load a save before teleporting to the Institute and port after removing the power armor
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By kartlos on 09 Feb 2016 02:08
This trophy drops not only for underground quests and also for Brotherhood of Steel quests
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By Leatherface on 12 Jan 2016 18:57
There is a bug, after teleporting to the Institute - it is noted that I spoke with Z1-14 and there is no one at the Institute. The elevator is blocked. You just need to load a save before teleporting to the Institute and port after removing the power armor
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