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Climbing the Ladder

Climbing the Ladder

Achieve Division 4 in FIFA Ultimate Team Division Rivals

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How to unlock the Climbing the Ladder achievement in FIFA 19 - Definitive Guide

Update: There was a problem with this achievement after EA changed how many skill points are required for each division. After that change some people were automatically promoted to Div 4 but did not get the achievement. You need to get relegated (lose) and then play to get promoted again to make the achievement pop. Thanks everyone in the comments for working this through.

Not a solution, but thought I will mention that EA has lowered the bar for this achievements today. Previously you had to have 1600 skill points to be in division 4, now it is only 1250. Hope that motivates some of you to go for this achievement.
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28 Mar 2019 17:45

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I was 1 skillpoint off at 1249. Took me 9 games to finally get it. With a flukey 90th minute winner. Finally finished with FUT. (I'm decent at FIFA just burned out off FUT and the constant grind.)
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By exactor it on 28 Mar 2019 20:10
Now there's the problem of the achievement not popping if you ended up being promoted after they changed the Division skill ratings. I was in Div5, now Div4, played a couple of games & no achievement.
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By MagnificMeryk on 28 Mar 2019 20:22
Wow! Did not think EA would do this. The pain i went through to get to Div 4! haha
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By Petrie91 on 28 Mar 2019 22:44
Same issue as MagnificMeryk

Had 1424 points before patch and so went from Div 5 to Div 4 and was like thank god for that. However, no achievement.

Reset console, even played games until I reached 1535 and Division 3, but still no achievement....

Thinking you may still have to reach the originally required 1600 points?

Only other option is to relegate ya self back down to div 5 and come back up, but don’t really wanna do that unless it’s confirned that’s the only option.
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By Knoxville UK on 29 Mar 2019 07:10
I have the same issue im now n division 4 but I have no achievement
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By Bradmatt97 on 29 Mar 2019 07:38
I am going to try and grind through this on the weekend. I was only on 1100 points or thereabout so was not automatically promoted. I will see what happens if I do get promoted with only 1250 points. However, it appears exactor it got the achieved when he was promoted with the new rating.
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By Nomad II 373 II on 29 Mar 2019 11:42
Same issues here been trying some launch to get Div 4 and they moved me up and no achievement. Also logged in some wins and I thought going up to Div 3 would unlock it. It is either get to 1600 points or relegate back down to 5 and jump up to 4. Both options are terrible. Typical EA.
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By TheIrishBeast on 29 Mar 2019 14:28
im gonna try getting relegated and going back up will let you guys know how it goes
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By UNDEADZ3LD4 on 29 Mar 2019 14:53
I can confirm that it does unlock when you reach 1250 points.

Started at about 1180 points today, three wins in a row and got the achievement.

The matches also seemed A LOT easier than before, my third win was 6-0 against an awful team. I'm guessing most of the better players have moved up to higher divisions.
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By Jesticulator on 29 Mar 2019 17:23
Relegating yourself worked for me. I started above and brought myself under. It must only unlock by literally reaching the limit.
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By Ron69Bongkowski on 29 Mar 2019 18:59
Can confirm getting relegated works
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By UNDEADZ3LD4 on 29 Mar 2019 20:06
Thanks for confirming this, as I can now confirm reaching the previous required 1600 points does NOT work/unlock the achievement.

So now to get relegated!!!
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By Knoxville UK on 30 Mar 2019 17:47
Hello there!

I was wondering how you did it? I dropped myself down to below 1250 but stayed in division 4.

Do I go lower and make sure it says division 5 or do I just win now to get it over the 1250?

Thanks
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By TheIrishBeast on 02 Apr 2019 11:16
Yes, it only works after you are delegated to div5 (Below 1180 point i think) and then reach 1250 to get promoted again.
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By magiccigam on 02 Apr 2019 17:31
Anyone want to help me on this one? i can't get there for the life of me :(
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By Mution on 09 Jan 2020 12:48
I could need some help as well :( Im just not able to get past Division 6
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By AnPries on 19 Mar 2020 19:26
Looking at getting this achievement
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By DiV3BoMb3R on 05 May 2020 10:51
No doubt this is tough. Was just about on verge of Div 5 then lost 4x games back-to-back 1-3,1-2,0-4,0-2. Come out of it thinking I’ve not even felt/played badly lol 🤦🏻‍♂️ clearly have though 😂 might be a case of letting the gamers die down before attempting this.
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By JsnSince1989 on 23 Jan 2021 00:40
This was hideous, I managed to unlock it after beating 5 teams in a row of 95+ ratings with an 82 rated team. I would advise blocking anyone you lose heavily against to get paired with teams you know you can beat in the long run.
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By sonnyliston1 on 27 Jan 2021 19:01
Ridiculously tough! Achieved this today after starting from scratch. As people have already said, pretty much every team is 95+. You need a lot of skill and a lot of luck!!
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By GAZLAAR94 on 27 Feb 2021 18:02
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By amandou06 on 20 May 2021 19:10
Any way to boost this? If so, add me :-)
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By sorininf on 01 Jul 2021 14:39
Hi folks, what if I now qualify in 2021 with 3 wins and 2 losses? I will then go straight to Division 4! I should get the achievement straight away, right?
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By Nightliner69 on 14 Nov 2021 09:34
Looking to boost somehow
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By MarkusW86 on 29 Mar 2022 10:18
Searching for games and none found. Dang.
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By qwxx on 19 Jun 2022 00:08
Losing - 18 points for a draw...Then when you finally win you get about 24, this achievement is absolutely ridiculous.
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By EmG v SprayZz on 05 Jul 2022 10:05
You no longer need to get relegated and promoted again for this achievement. I simply won all 5 placements and was automatically placed in DIV 4 I played a game and lost (this step might not even be needed) I didn’t pop but as soon as I quit from FUT into skill games it popped 👍🏼
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By X0CHRISTIEX0 on 04 Jun 2023 08:42
Anyone still looking to boost this? Message me.
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By AH Jakim Otte on 16 Sep 2023 09:41
Finally got this due to them lowering the points threshold, managed to sneak up to 1260 after a few scrappy wins and it popped, back down to 1180 now but I don't care as I finally got it!
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By mjstokes85 on 05 Apr 2019 09:21
All I can say if you're trying to start from scratch on this one is good luck. You'll pretty much be exclusively playing against people's god-mode endgame teams and you won't have much of a shot unless you're really, really good at the game.
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By gettysburg11 on 23 Sep 2020 21:56
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Edit: People are saying in the comments that this method no longer works

There is a way to cheese this achievement a bit (as of now).

If you are definitely gonna lose a match, you can hit the guide button and completely close Fifa by hitting start and then quit on it.

Then when you reopen it and go back to Ultimate Team, you will be credited with the loss, but you never seem to lose any skill points for some reason.
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13 Oct 2018 00:04

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Also I got sent off in the game and applied a squad fitness card

After quitting all my squad was 99 and I had no suspension
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By Fatboyamis69 on 14 Oct 2018 16:18
Good find! Will try this tomorrow before they patch it.
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By GoW Butters on 15 Oct 2018 00:38
Massive help. Thank you!
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By Petrie91 on 15 Oct 2018 04:21
Does anyone know of potential punishment for quitting games too often?
I get a message about my DNF modifier but that’s it so far.
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By WiizKiin on 15 Oct 2018 10:15
I've quit every time for 4 matches now lol. I can't seem to beat people now. I'm in division 5 with Rating of 1290. I think... How far am I from 4?
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By Mike United 007 on 15 Oct 2018 22:41
1600 skill rating for the achievement.
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By WiizKiin on 15 Oct 2018 22:43
Cheers Wiizkiin. How much on average would you get for a win?
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By Mike United 007 on 16 Oct 2018 06:32
I would say around 30 points for each win.
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By WiizKiin on 16 Oct 2018 08:11
Someone recommends an hour to play? It’s so hard to win, I just need 2 victories more...
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By XxMe7alBloodxX on 17 Oct 2018 03:52
im in Div 5 and struggling bad. i would say im average and got few victories here and there, but everyone im facing have a great team and just losing towards end so having to quit lol. annoying. anyone else in Division 5 maybe search at the same time? we can exit to dash and quit and get our victories up. if we can find each other lol
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By Mike United 007 on 17 Oct 2018 12:55
How could it be possible to boost? seems not quite possible.

I'm just almost reach Div 5 (~1200pt) still a long way to go.
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By lfcjohn on 18 Oct 2018 00:49
This doesn't work anymore, unfortunately.
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By AnyBanterAbout on 18 Oct 2018 08:52
can confirm it has stopped working....
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By Petrie91 on 18 Oct 2018 10:15
How many points are you losing though. I noticed you lose only 2-5 points everytime
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By Fatboyamis69 on 18 Oct 2018 12:35
Just lost 30 points after I quit a match when losing.
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By Jesticulator on 18 Oct 2018 14:22
It’s completely different this year with the custom tactics and chemistry styles, all these are important. If you play as you would do in normal online seasons you will not fare very well.

Div 5 unfortunately due to the reward you get is a massive clusterfuck of a division. It’s full of not only people who are actually at that skill level but the pro players from a higher division as the rewards are so much better for them as they will have an easier time winning matches. This is why one game you’ll get someone you’ll easily beat and then the next game you will go against someone that has a 89 rated team with TOTY players and icons who destroys you.

I finally got this achievement tonight, like one of the posters above I was at 1592 after winning 2 games in a row and then got matched against a mega team with Neymar, Messi, Bale, Scholes etc and thought here we go again...however I surprised myself and beat him 3-2 after being 2-1 down to finally unlock this thing.

I had to learn the dynamics of FUT before making progress, spent a lot of time making my team and play styles/custom tactics to one that I play well with.

The biggest tip I can give you is do not use the sprint button unless it’s ansolutely neccessary such as when you’re down the wings or through on goal. Be patient in midfield, pass the ball back if you need to create openings.
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By MartyFSM on 13 Feb 2019 23:54
I can confirm this works. Naughty way, but least you don’t lose skill points and the opponent gets skill points
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By Fatboyamis69 on 13 Oct 2018 22:04
I can also confirm this works!

Better get this one done before they patch this method!
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By WiizKiin on 14 Oct 2018 14:58
30 points for me as well after quit a match
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By lfcjohn on 18 Oct 2018 14:56
I'm never getting this one! Why can't they just let me play online using legacy defending? 😡
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By Bootybandit1#751 on 12 Jan 2019 05:45
Need help on this got 1350 points just another 250 to go
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By iGC Adam on 18 Oct 2018 20:03
Losing 30 points at a time now. Best to leave for a while until the divisions are evenly spread out. It seems as if the first to go through placement matches were ranked a lot higher due to the limited number of players. Wish i'd got on earlier!
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By Petrie91 on 19 Oct 2018 01:55
Luke if this theory is correct, that is amazing observation skills and you have saved so many people haha
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By Fr0ZenCaVeMaN on 19 Oct 2018 15:53
Haha! I hope it does work. Hopefully there's some switch that is being triggered by the ultimate team rewards refresh and that it hasn't been patched properly yet but if someone can try it out on Thursday next week and let us all know that would be a great Haha! I'd do it myself but I'm away all next week
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By LethalLuke1993 on 19 Oct 2018 17:45
Really hope it works though for last few days i got 1 win 1 draw (down from 0:2) and 1 lost.
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By lfcjohn on 20 Oct 2018 03:26
I would recommend playing Division Rivals between Friday and Sunday as this is when the weekend league is on and I believe that you are more likely to get weaker opponents.
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By WiizKiin on 22 Oct 2018 10:44
@LethalLuke1993 any idea if this method is working as of now?
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By GREER 1872 on 25 Oct 2018 14:57
It doesn't work, I tried two hours ago cry
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By chodlakine on 25 Oct 2018 16:03
Chodlakine, thank you for testing this for us. Shame that they have patched this :(
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By Fr0ZenCaVeMaN on 25 Oct 2018 16:43
Times to train hard and hope have luck
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By lfcjohn on 26 Oct 2018 00:19
Do you get matched with teams matching yours. In that case surely its better to make a quick, pacey, average side rather than my current side i have. Recently i stuck in Ederson, TOTW Gudogen and all of a sudden im getting battered

I remember one of the FIFA's having to win an online cup, i did it was Anzhi as they were 3.5 star at the time and i wasnt playing against 5 star teams

Just wondering if you make a 70 rating team, youll match against a 70ish rated team
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By Fatboyamis69 on 26 Oct 2018 07:37
maybe - let us know if you test it. theres no other way atm :-(
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By Mike United 007 on 26 Oct 2018 12:09
I think you get matched against anyone with a similar skill rating.
Most likely in the same division you are in, but also if you are pushing for the next division you may find you are matched with someone facing relegation from the league you are trying to get.
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By WiizKiin on 26 Oct 2018 17:00
it's quite hard now, i'm currently at D5 (just over 1200 skill point) and met a team with 89 rated and 100 chem. Luckily the team is not too skillful but still only draw 1:1 at the end (my team is currently 84 and 100 chem)
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By lfcjohn on 29 Oct 2018 08:17
I definetly doesnt match the skills of the teams and also not the ranked divisions. I already played againts teams with 75 and also with 90 while having a team around 82-84. The number of points you get or lose depends on the ranking of the other player and not on the played matches quality I think. So it really is a thing of luck with the opponents, training, getting a good team and trust in EAs servers...
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By TONI III04 on 04 Nov 2018 19:34
cry
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By Mike United 007 on 05 Nov 2018 08:35
Currently at 1567 skill rating.

Getting there, but the games are tough. Even though I'm playing in the WL I might try and squeeze a few games in this weekend so I'm not matching all the WL players.
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By Wxgba on 08 Nov 2018 21:18
Reached 1627 skill rating finally. All legit, didn't even know there was a glitch method lol. Have fun guys.
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By KillCrazyCarl on 10 Nov 2018 00:46
It would be nice to have a guide that explains the points you get roughly for every win/loss, that way I can gauge how many games I need to play until I promote to Div 4. I'm currently 20 points away from Div 5.
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By MaurickShepherd on 06 Dec 2018 14:34
As per the other solution, you usually get 25-35 points per win however in some instances I have received up to 42. If you beat someone near the top of your division, you will receive more points (like my 42). Similar ranked people will net you around 25. The most annoying thing is losing to someone well below you in the division (which as you get towards 1600 happens) and you lose up to 45 points.... I’ve been fluctuating between 1450 and 1500 for a week. Realistically only 4 wins in a row away from div 4 but as noted, the higher you are...the easier you fall. For every loss at the moment I’m having to win 2 in a row to get back to where I started
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By Petrie91 on 30 Dec 2018 22:37
I also recommend playing as soon as the FUT weekend leagues have started ( Friday afternoon in Aus) as the higher caliber players play that until completion before heading back to normal divisions.
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By Petrie91 on 30 Dec 2018 22:38
is it possible to set up another FUT club on the same player account?
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By dj casa07 on 11 Jan 2019 10:49
EA really made me work for this one. Had to win another game after ending up on 1597 Skill points. next game winning 1-0 almost gave me a heart attack
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By Petrie91 on 23 Jan 2019 00:32
It has never been this difficult to get to division 4. I've been consistently in div 1 for many FIFAs but I can't get over 1,450 for the life of me.
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By YaIrishMick96 on 13 Feb 2019 18:14
ok so 2 wins off disconnect from EA connection fine then lose etc manage to get 2 wins away 1-0 up and disconnect again are EA having me on?
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By UNDEADZ3LD4 on 25 Feb 2019 20:38
I've great advice from all on here, nice contribution in the massive other guide just put on TA a few days ago.

I've mashed all the FIFAs I've played, every last one I bought. All UT draft achvs, the world cup wins, the god awful FIFA 09 UT trophies (truly a tragic moment!) but they all got 1k'd...

But this one... This FIFA... Cos of THIS achievement... It's a different beast it really is. And now I'm busy more than ever in my own life, I may have to concede this one is out my reach.

I hope that by June 2019 (which is usually around the last update made to the game) that they ratify the rewards system... It's quite UNremarkable that these penises drop to div5 to wank over the rewards. That really fucks me off.

If these players want the biggest rewards and have the skill for div 1 & 2 in the first place, then reward them heavily in those divisions. Quite frankly it's unfair and stops normal progression for those of us after the achievement and enjoyment of the mode.
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By YourResidentDJ on 01 Mar 2019 01:36
My suggestion to anyone who is getting downhearted with this achievement is to potentially wait for fifa 20 to come out so that the pro players move on!
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By MartyFSM on 03 Mar 2019 18:24
Has anyone got the achievement now there’s a point update on getting promoted to division 4
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By iGC Adam on 28 Mar 2019 15:50
What’s this point update?
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By WiizKiin on 28 Mar 2019 20:25
Division 4 is now 1250 skill rating
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By WiizKiin on 28 Mar 2019 20:58
Je cherche du monde pr booster avec la technique des 5 premiers match de placement
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By Sasuk3 Uchiwa60 on 08 May 2020 10:09
Trying to get this done and finding it so hard! Currently in division 7 and I might win the odd 2-3 games here and there, but the progress is so slow.
Is the dashboard quit thing still working? Don't want to try it and get penalised for it
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By Islandweller on 28 Nov 2021 19:13
Well thats annoying!!! I was 4 wins away from div 4 using the method now 8 wins away, guess i wont be playing this till either a long period of time passes by where the pros are in div 1-4 and can play some average players in div 5. Or somebody finds a way to boost this as in a group of people helping each other get to div 4. Message if you want to try and boost this
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By Fr0ZenCaVeMaN on 18 Oct 2018 17:18
Just a quick input. This method worked from day 1 until the Thursday after the game released and then stopped working until the following Thursday when it started working again and then stopped working this Thursday. Thursday's are Ultimate Team rewards day and so far there seems to be some correlation between this day and the method working. If the theory is correct then the method should start working again from next Thursday. This is just a theory and could be coincidence bit it's worth a look next week.
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By LethalLuke1993 on 19 Oct 2018 08:24
dont know if i prefer this or winning all fut draft games online from last year
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By UNDEADZ3LD4 on 20 Jan 2019 21:27
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Olá, a maneira mais rápida de conseguir essa conquista é nas partidas de possicionamento. Ganhando as 5 partidas irá automaticamente para a divisão 4
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16 Oct 2021 12:48

To unlock the Climbing the Ladder trophy in FIFA 19, you will need to reach division 4 in Ultimate Team Rivals.

Rivals is the main versus game mode in Ultimate Team. After each match, you will earn skill points based on your performance. A win will generally reward you with +30 skill points, a draw will be a small + or - of anything from 2-8 points, and a loss will result in around -30 skill points.

To reach division 4, you will need to earn a total of 1,250 skill points (recently reduced from 1,600).
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15 Apr 2019 15:43

Unobtainable due to Server Closure

Online trophy. required.

Division Rivals is a new Ultimate Team sub mode where you play other Ultimate Team players, but it is a bit different than Seasons. In this game mode, the ultimate objective is to qualify for the Champions Weekend League, the most rewarding event in Ultimate Team. You can also get rewards through Weekly Ranking. All these points you get depend on your Division, which is based on your Skill Rating.

For this trophy, you will have to reach Division 4 in the FIFA Ultimate Team Division Rivals. You will need around 1600 of Skill Rating for that. Your Skill Rating will improve by winning games. Losing lowers your Skill Rating. Draws may give or take points from your ratings.
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The fourth division starts with 1600 points; if you exit during a match and close the game via the PS button, no points will be deducted
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14 Oct 2018 17:13

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It’s been fixed, now points are deducted for exiting, we should have taken care of this trophy earlier, now with this handicap in FIFA it will be impossible to take the 4th division
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By Astronaut on 18 Oct 2018 13:03
A nasty trophy, if you win 3-0 and the match ends, you get +16 points, if the opponent leaves +12 points, if you lose 0-3 and end the match, you get -28 points, you leave early -16 points.
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By baccet on 17 Mar 2020 17:51
Matchmaking is still very strange in Division Rivals.
I had a series of victories in the 4th division, scored 1200 points. There were also frankly weak opponents, and the game very often helped (the opponent hits the posts 2-3 times, you counterattack and immediately score). I decided to take a break, everything turned around.
Now I came across players with a much higher skill, it felt like I was playing in the first div. Plus, the game began to help the opponent. As a result, I rolled back to 1000 points.
For handymen like me, this is still very difficult.
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By TSwan on 19 Apr 2019 11:52
Move up in divisions only during the WL, because... all skill players are occupied with it, and the chance of getting into a less experienced opponent increases. I recommend Friday and Saturday.
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By P_Yozhik on 18 Feb 2019 12:33
They lowered the bar for division 4 to 1250 points, but at the time of this gift from ea I had 1400 points and the trophy is not given out. In general, I don’t know what to do, try to drain to the line and rise again, or get to 1600 in the hope that he will give out there.
Upd merged to 5th division and again rose to 4th and received the trophy.
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By Vasamba777 on 28 Mar 2019 13:01
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To be honest, I haven’t taken the trophy yet, but I almost took it. Reached the 5th division, 3-4 victories remained. After the last patch, the game began and I was pushed back almost to the 7th - I play against the legendary 90+ lineups. And this despite the fact that my lineup is almost the top of the laliga.

This is what helped me, changed the game a lot, and jumped from the 8th division to 5+ in 2 weeks

The first thing you need to do is to realize that the game is pure drink - without a team, you will not be able to beat stronger squads in terms of skill. My suggestion is to take as a basis either the top player you got (if you're lucky), or build a team.
I was lucky to get Kevin De Bruyne in the second week of the game - I started building a squad based on the example of one of the leagues. I gave up this idea and switched to La Liga from the English Premier League, and here's why.
1) Laliga allows you to build a very powerful squad for very reasonable money. Within 200 thousand, while starting from 30-40 and going to division 6-7 on it.
Below is the list to start with
Goalkeeper - Adan, Ili Neto - cost almost the same, take anyone
Defenders - wingers Semedo and Philip Luis, Central Paulista and Guiminez or Bartra
TsOPs - Arturo Vidal, Carvalho, Kondogbia!!! Thomas Partey - take Kondogbia and Partey
DAC - I highly recommend taking Benzema and making it a DAC if you don’t have enough money for an Isco
Left PP or winger - take Promes, Right PP or winger - Osama Dembele is your everything
Striker - Costa for heading, Inaki Williams or Rodrigo for running, I advise Rodrigo

With this cheap squad, you can definitely take the 7th division, earning money along the way.
By the 7th division your team should look like this if you want to move on

Striker is the main Suarez, to replace Rodrigo or Griezmann if there is a lot of money.
Left winger - Coutinho, he is the best, replacing Promes,
Right winger Bale to replace Dembele
Tsap - Modric, to replace Benzema. If there is a lot of money - of course Messi
COs - Casemiro + Kroos or Vidal. I'd like more Vidal
Left back Marcelo
Right back Carvajal
Central defenders are your everything, you need Varane and Ramos, Ramos is expensive, he can easily replace Umtiti
The goalkeeper is his divinity Courtois, this 2-meter guy will carry half of what others cannot.

This is the minimum composition in gold, without which you shouldn’t even think about the 4th division, just believe me.

Next we go to set up tactics - here you need to deeply understand the meta. The current meta is called drop back - that is, all your defenders and tops must defend. You can’t touch the defenders at all until the enemy is close to the penalty area; you always need to defend yourself with all the other players - especially the tsacs and tsops. Next, we set up tactics exactly according to this video - believe me, after I did this, I got a win streak of 10 matches, and honestly went nuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHCFel5NuIs

To be honest, after the last patch you need to adjust your tactics again - the meta has changed.

As soon as you enter the 5th division, all hell breaks loose. The skill of the players is very high + you will start to meet teams consisting of icons - if you don’t have a dense bus defense, no matter what you do - strikers like Cruyff will run around you on a simple pass on the move.

The main strategy is to score 2 goals and go into deep defense, trying to sneak a pass along the flanks. FIFA 19 is all about sheds. Your task is to run as a winger into the penalty area close to the goals and give a short cross - if you succeed in this, the probability of scoring a goal is 70-80%. We make all direct shots only with a passing shot in an arc; any direct shots towards the goalkeeper will be caught.

I advise you to google custom tactics from pro players every time you change the meta. Once every 3 games you will feel a monstrous handicap, when the average team will beat you, and you will not have 10 direct shots into an empty net - such matches need to be endured and reduced to a draw. Don't be shy for the last 20-15 minutes. turn on the second line-up and a full attack, there is nothing to lose if it’s not a draw. I had times when I pulled out victories in matches where it was 3-0, since the handicap works in your favor too. In my opinion, the handicap is set at the end of each half.
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