FINAL FANTASY IX

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Found in the Shuffle

Found in the Shuffle

Beat the Nero Brothers' shuffling game nine times in a row.

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How to unlock the Found in the Shuffle achievement in FINAL FANTASY IX - Definitive Guide

Oh boy... okay...
These hood wearing hippo looking dudes are in the weapon shop in Alexandria the second time you visit (Disc 3, I believe)

The concept is simple, pick the correct brother.. but yeah... no human eye can keep up with the UNREAL SPEED these guys move at so, here's what to do.

Grab your phone or tablet, record a video of the shuffle then using slowmotion (I downloaded an app for this) slow the video down to 10% speed and watch it as many times as you want until you are certain. Rinse and repeat.

It's tedious, but hey, we've all done worse for some Gamerscore
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15 Feb 2019 20:58

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Thanks Airborne , I just got this but I did it another way which was slightly harder. For anyone who wants to get this without too much tech work and downloading this is what I did. Firstly I did the first three shuffles legit to save time, then I started a stream on Twitch and streamed the shuffle and paused then on my PC i watched back from recent recordings the current shuffle I was doing with the 0.25 speed option that Twitch has to find the answer. Then I went back to Xbox to un-pause and put my answer in and to stream next shuffle rinse and repeat until 9 shuffles. With 0.25 speed it can still be tricky so be careful and double check, if your recent recordings on Twitch doesn't update quick enough or not at all , do not fret simply stop your broadcast and start it again it will update then. Also be careful not to get your shuffles mixed up in the recordings and you can throw some pauses in to help for when you watch the shuffles back. Good luck everyone.
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By Cullercoats on 22 Feb 2019 17:15
yes and nice i did also this
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By Julien AK47 on 15 Feb 2019 21:27
i could only slow it to half speed and it was still a guessing game on the last round.
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By LordRex172 on 17 Feb 2019 14:27
Yup, LordRex172, I had mine slowed down to 10% speed and even then it was extremely difficult
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By AttitudePark on 17 Feb 2019 14:48
Keep pausing and unpausing. Made it pretty easy
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By MAJIN BOOSH on 18 Feb 2019 20:29
Is this random every time? I'm using the slow motion iphone feature.
EDIT: If anyone did this legit they are a god.
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By C3LLDW3LLER on 20 Feb 2019 16:39
@C3LLDW3LLER it is random. I tried to find a pattern but it changes every time
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By AttitudePark on 20 Feb 2019 17:24
Can someone suggest some good apps ?
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By Cullercoats on 22 Feb 2019 15:20
The first seven are simple but the last two are doozies! To add on to this, on an Android device using the Play Store, I downloaded and used the app, "Slow Motion Frame Video Player."

Make sure to start the video when the question pops up so you know which brother you're looking for. From left to right, it's Genero, Benero, Zenero.
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By Pink Freud PhD on 23 Feb 2019 03:55
How much gil do you need for this? I didn't have enough to start wave that cost 19,000
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By Melman V2 on 23 Feb 2019 14:04
Had to use an iPhone as my camera was too crappy to capture the speeds they move at. iPhone with the free app called "Slow Fast Slow" worked well.
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By Bodom78 on 28 Feb 2019 11:55
FWIW, I got this on my first try just by pausing and unpausing while playing. Start with it paused, hit start twice, note the location (I said it out loud, confusing my cat and wife). Repeat. By only hitting start twice each time it was easy to be real careful and let me take breaks even mid-routine.
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By JORAX on 04 Mar 2019 05:54
Also Melman, you were on the last one at 19k...
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By JORAX on 04 Mar 2019 05:55
Solution should mention you need 19k Gil going into this.
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By GesterX on 30 Mar 2019 23:09
Used the slo mo feature on my phone's camera got it first try. Just be careful on the last one they move from left to right in quick succession and I was right but watched it again and a third time to be sure as I was doubting myself redface
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By Calex dEUS on 16 Aug 2020 19:01
oh man...how many crazy mini games are in this?? Would NOT have got this without slow-mo. Thanks!!
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By VivaJerry on 28 Feb 2021 07:54
Did they patch and make this easier? I ended up getting normal play no help…
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By Zeppelin041 on 18 Feb 2022 22:28
Slo-mo on phone worked great. Thanks for the tip!
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By Three Kidneys on 27 May 2023 02:11
I would suggest that you download the video to your pc and use VLC media player. That program can slow down as much as you want until a second in-game is taking up to 30 seconds for you while watching.
That way, you should have no problems following those scumbags.
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By TG Airborne 88 on 22 Feb 2019 16:41
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MISSABLE! If this helped, please like this guide and if there's something missing, just write it down in the comments. Thank you!

When?
Beginning of CD3 after doing the "Track Star" achievement with Vivi and you play as Zidane again.

Where?
Alexandria, left of the pub on the marketplace. Go to the blacksmith shop. There are the 3 leatherclothed "Nero Brothers'".

What to do?
You have to keep track of one of the 3 brothers while they are jumping around switching places. The one you have to keep track off is the one who says: "Which one is xxnero?". You have to pay a growing amount of money each round, so have enough money. You NEED AT LEAST 19,500 to do the last round!! Just to be sure: you can't just skip after the first round and to the first round again and again until you did it 9 times. You have to pay everytime when they ask you to pay more for the next round!!

How to make it as easy as possible?
You can try to keep track of the one by pressing the cn_start-Button at the beginning, then always double tap it and wait a second. If you press too fast, it can be too fast to follow again, so just look what the best frequence is for yourself. It can still be very fast even with the "cn_start-Method", so another helping method is to record the scene in normal speed with a camera, smartphone or something like this and use a program to slow down the video to rewatch in a lower speed.

I hope I could help you. Please like this guide if I could or leave a comment to help me making this guide even better. Thank you!
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08 Jul 2020 11:20

This is done at the start of disc 3 when you go back to
They are found in the weapon shop and only available when controlling Zidane.

This minigame starts with one of the brothers saying their name then shuffling around with their other 2 brothers. You need to watch carefully then select the correct brother. You need to guess correctly 9 times in a row with each round getting faster. You also cannot select 'Don't pay' to leave or save as this will reset the game back to round 1.

The best method I found of winning is to use my iPhones slow-mo video mode, record the screen then watch it back on your phone, then select the right brother.

Other methods which people have suggested are to use an app such as VLC to record the screen then watch it back in slow-mo.

The only issue with these methods is in the last 2 or 3 rounds the framerate can make it quite difficult to see where the correct brother is jumping too, but just keep looping that video and pay attention.

Hope this helps!
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02 Oct 2017 00:00

This is done at the start of disc 3 when you go back to
They are found in the weapon shop and only available when controlling Zidane.

This minigame starts with one of the brothers saying their name then shuffling around with their other 2 brothers. You need to watch carefully then select the correct brother. You need to guess correctly 9 times in a row with each round getting faster. You also cannot select 'Don't pay' to leave or save as this will reset the game back to round 1.

The best method I found of winning is to use my iPhones slow-mo video mode, record the screen then watch it back on your phone, then select the right brother.

Other methods which people have suggested are to remote play the game and use an app such as VLC to record the screen then watch it back in slow-mo.

The only issue with these methods is in the last 2 or 3 rounds the framerate can make it quite difficult to see where the correct brother is jumping too, but just keep looping that video and pay attention.

Hope this helps!
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02 Oct 2017 15:56

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I tried with my phone, but the framerate made it impossible to track. Using Remote Play and recording in OBS though worked perfectly. The frames held strong with that method. Using VLC media player, you can keep hitting "Playback > Slower" to slow it down more and more until you get it to a slow enough speed and track them much easier
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By BeardedScot86 on 10 Dec 2020 18:27

The shuffling mini-game is also in Alexandria on Disc 3, but while you are controlling Zidane. Speak with one of the Nero brothers in the weapon shop to start the game.

The brother who speaks before the game starts is the one you need to locate at the end. This is just like a traditional cup shuffling game where you need to find a ball under a cup. As you successfully guess their location, the game will get faster and much harder. Pausing it off and on will help you keep track, and if you're really struggling I would suggest using the Frame Rate Control trick from "Hail to the King" to cheese this, or people have suggested filming it and then slowing the video down frame by frame. I was able to do it on my first try with no tricks, so it's not really that bad to be honest.

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The Nero Brothers' shuffling game can only be attempted during Disc 3 in Alexandria after the events at the Iifa Tree and only when controlling Zidane. To initiate it, speak with one of the Nero brothers in the weapon shop and agree to play the game.

The three Nero brothers - Zenero, Benero and Genero - will line up in front of Zidane. The brother that speaks before the shuffling is the one you need to find at the end so keep an eye on his location at all times. Once the shuffling is done, you must decide if the brother is on the left, in the centre or on the right and choosing correctly allows you to move on to the next stage.

In the earlier stages, the Nero brothers shuffle rather slowly. As the minigame progresses, however, they become much faster and at the later stages, it becomes difficult to keep up. It can be very helpful to constantly press to pause the game during the shuffle so that you can keep an eye on his movement at all time. However, at higher stages, the brothers move so quickly that even this might not be enough.

Another method to complete the shuffle mini-game easily is by recording a video of the shuffle. The iPad, for example, has an option to record videos in slow motion and will let you scroll through the video frame-by-frame during playback, thus allowing you to easily monitor the movements of the brother you need to find. If your recording device doesn't have any of these options, you can always plug it into your computer and open the video in a video editing program. Slow the video down in the program and follow the brother you need to find, during the playback.

Once you have completed the nine stages of the Nero Brothers' shuffling game, you will obtain this trophy.

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According to the plot in the second half of the game, you will have to return to Alexandria again.
And there you can look into the weapons store and play with the Nero brothers (Benero, Genero and Zenero) in a simple mini-game, like the well-known “thimbles”. To win the trophy you need to win 9 times in a row.
More details:
https://www.ffforever.info/index.cgi...hrough;n=q3-02
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21 Sep 2017 10:11

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If you can’t follow it, you can shoot a video on your phone and then watch it, for example, in VLC player at low speed
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By Leewor on 01 Oct 2017 11:12
Easier:
save the video with the SHARE button, upload it to Youtube - and watch it there at 0.25 speed
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By Saitou91 on 02 Nov 2017 12:51
We need to manage Zidane and not Vivi
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