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Heads Up

Heads Up

Win a game of The Eliminator without acquiring any Car Drops.

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How to unlock the Heads Up achievement in Forza Horizon 4 - Definitive Guide

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20/12/19
They have patched the original stragegy. An updated guide with some tips on how to do this post-update is below. The head-to-head bug has also been patched.

https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/360041...

Thanks to all the players who offered additional info/tips/experiences etc for the old guide. If was fun while it lasted ;)
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****** Map ******

I made a map cataloguing a number of start and end locations for the final showdown. It's colour coded and numbered to make it as accessible as possible for everyone.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AnF_pprqYcCrmYJccuPL_isMqAj7mg

These aren't all locations, they are all that I could remember. Also to note, some aren't exact but still in the right general area.

If you know where orange ends let me know and if you encounter one that isn't on the map let me know (XBL screen of the final arena/circle and showdown end point) and I can update it.

In my experience these locations are set and do not have multiple end locations but I could be wrong. I even think head-to-heads have set end locations as well but are impossible to predict because of the many, many variables. I've had several head-to-heads ending in the exact same location.

****** 16/01/21 ******
Important comment from x1001x Puppys

"Just a comment about your map, they have changed a lot of the ending areas and finale locations. Out of the 20ish times I reached the finale, only #7 seems to still be 100% accurate (I got this twice, and used it to win, so big thank you for it). The rest are slightly different, and I had at least 10 unique finales."

It seems that they've randomised it or added more end locations. Just try and keep end points in mind from where the final showdown starts.

****** New Strategy ******

This method can be stacked with the "Last Car Standing" achievement.
Forza Horizon 4Last Car StandingThe Last Car Standing achievement in Forza Horizon 4 worth 129 pointsWin a game of The Eliminator.

This can also be stacked with Pacifist but it is much harder to do now and requires a lot more luck. Many players have achieved this post update.
Forza Horizon 4PacifistThe Pacifist achievement in Forza Horizon 4 worth 62 pointsSurvive until the Final Showdown in a Level 1 car.

NOTEs:



This achievement might still be a bit buggy post-update, if you completed the requirements and the achievement didn't unlock, try dashboarding and restarting Horizon 4, it's said that this will trigger the achievement to unlock.

Just a side note, when this mode ends up dying, you could probably jump into a game with a super low population and get it then. Might be a viable alternative in the future if you're having trouble with it. Or maybe they'll actually support it and make it fun with fun limited events where everyone has the same car only or everyone gets level 10 cars or something. Fingers crossed they support it and have fun things like that. (But hopefully they don't add anymore achievements amirite?)

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These are the steps/flow to the game that I take to get to the Final Showdown, the final race to determine the winner.



The Final Showdown



Tips for unbreakable objects



If you're successful you'll have gotten probably now the hardest, achievements in this DLC.

Tips and experiences from other players



I'd recommend still reading the tips and experiences of other players in the old guide and comments. There are still some relevant info there and some of their experiences might give you the confidence you need to do it and/or might give you an idea of your own to win this thing.

****** Old *Patched* Strategy ******

Let me know how you go. If you've any comments/adjustments/questions for this guide add it to the comments and I'll try and answer any questions you have.
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214 Comments
Done today with Mini lvl1. Pure luck haha. But that’s possible.
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By lLeoOneBR on 15 Feb 2020 11:36
This is probably one of the most painful in the asses achievements I’m ever going for. I’ve gotten close several times but never won first time I got 2nd then 4th and most recently 11th place. But most of the time I get eliminated for some stupid reason on the way up to the last 10 or so. I hate these luck based achievements as these are the worst by far.
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By RAVENxSPEEDSTER on 07 Mar 2020 21:03
I’ve only played 2 games, one getting caught out in the middle of nowhere because I didn’t know the line moved that quick and the 2nd time I got 2nd in the mini and the guy barely beat me by maybe a half second. I thought this would be an achievement I would never even attempt but after that finish on only my 2nd try it definitely seems doable
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By Vex Twilley on 11 Mar 2020 15:46
Ahhhhh I've had two 2nd place finishes now and both were really close! This is absolutely possible. I find the Quartz Regalia D to be a great car if you can manage to get your hands on it.
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By Frendin on 14 Mar 2020 19:28
Wow! They put one of the the finishing points in the motorway tunnel! I was first to the point on the map but as it was underground below me it didn't register and somebody else managed to get down there before me. I didn't think I could hate this stupid game mode any more than I already did.
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By mike1809 on 17 Mar 2020 17:34
Delete this guide not helpful anymore. As arena shrinks this Point to Point(end point will be within arena circle) wont applicable. +1 down vote.
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By venksbond on 24 Mar 2020 03:26
la carte n'est pas à jours
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By Gibbs on 25 Mar 2020 12:36
Would anyone be willing to try and boost this? I’m thinking of maybe creating one giant session at a random low traffic hour where we can all hopefully join the Eliminator and we get mostly put together with ourselves
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By Lily Mu RB on 30 Mar 2020 00:18
The map in this guide is no longer accurate. Needs updating, if possible, or at the very least removed. As SaP RaZzor said above, it's now near on impossible to get this achievement legitimately. I can only hope Turn 10 have a knock around of their heads and introduce a mode of Eliminator where there aren't any car drops available, as each time I have played, someone gets a level 8 car immediately and all hopes of getting this are gone. So stupid and this ruins the whole game for me.
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By B4RN4RD5K1 on 30 Mar 2020 20:13
I got 2nd by less than two seconds in a level 2 car, and I'd have won if I hadn't hit a building. It's very tough to win, and you'll probably almost always have no chance, but it is not impossible.

The map is still accurate, it's just that it doesn't have all the possible spawns. It's right about half the time, which is better odds than a random guess.

I am going to try making a session for this. Working together might make it easier.
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By Eurydace on 31 Mar 2020 17:44
FINALLY , got it after 5times being 2nd..
Won 3 1vs1 and got a lvl 5 car, and there were only 6 people in the final race and everyone was at the different side of the circle as my and finally I had the luck that the finish was my way and won pff
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By SaP RaZzor on 31 Mar 2020 19:22
Had Forza 100% until this damn achievement. I'm MrNoLuckFox for a reason and now I'm sad.

Talking 10-15 final showdowns now and can't nab it =/
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By MrNoLuckFox on 04 Apr 2020 20:15
Just got this after 4 hours of trying, nearly got the achievement for playing 50 games whilst i was trying for it! i can confirm that you can take your opponents car (right on d-pad) or "upgrade" yours to the next level (left on d-pad) and still get the achievement, i might get back to 100% on this game after all :-D
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By x LUFC91 x on 11 Apr 2020 15:01
It's so frustrating coming in second angry
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By Cause on 13 Apr 2020 23:43
100+ Games later and nothing, pure luck BS!
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By Skunk#9440 on 04 Sep 2021 14:11
I can confirm that 10 on the map works. Finally got this one!
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By GLORYtoMANUTD on 09 Sep 2021 03:56
The Eliminator is back in FH5! We can only hope there's no achievement like this! I got this one in February of last year and it took me less than a week.
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By DeadRisingBully on 13 Sep 2021 00:32
This map saved me, thanks a lot!
Got the achievement driving a level 4 Ford Focus through the forest.
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By Meshabba on 05 Oct 2021 12:22
This has to be the single worst multiplayer related achievement I ever earned and was able to get seriously lucky on my third and final win.
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By RAVENxSPEEDSTER on 06 Oct 2021 03:13
I finally got this one and I did it with the Mini. Here's why: In the final showdown you will likely double your chances if you have a 6+ car. The thing is though, that you will see 5-10 times as many final showdowns with the mini if you just hide from the start instead of doing five head-to-heads every session, which no matter how good of a driver you are, will make it unlikely that you're going to reach the final showdown at all. So play the odds by hiding with the Mini and then take a chance in one direction in the final showdown. You will fail a few times, but it should get you there eventually.
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By Howler19 on 07 Oct 2021 01:58
This achievement is a real pain to get total bs not really fun like a games sopose to be I hstd the fact they adding this stupid thing to FH5
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By KILLANEYROCKS on 19 Oct 2021 20:23
The map. The map was what gave me a huge head start and victory with a level 4.
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By Vonnalushi on 05 Nov 2021 02:22
Playing late night (1am or later est) during the week cuts down the lobby size significantly. Started with 9-10 people, final ring was me in the mini and a guy in a level 7. I used the emotes mentioned in the underdog guide and I don't know if he let me win it just hit a building but I managed to coast to a win.
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By BadTriangle on 19 Nov 2021 07:36
2 times second today. Damn it :/
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By T0per Harley on 21 Apr 2020 17:54
got it finally. Entirely based on luck. I took a bet with an audi RS6 (level 5) & started before the final destination was shown. I went out of the circle 3s before the start of the final race. The finish lane was 3 km in front of me. I even crashed once with a black screen, I finished first though.
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By T0per Harley on 23 Apr 2020 18:02
Very easy to obtain ive had 3 Ws in less than 10 games one of which was a lvl 2 gtr lol
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By Classic Vinylz on 29 Apr 2020 05:18
I posted a new solution in case you guys want to double box or have friends help you with this. This worked on my second try.

P.S.: Screw Classic Vinylz, you can troll around elsewhere. If you're this great at this game, don't rub it into all our faces, who clearly are struggling with it.
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By Dr Marty on 09 May 2020 23:41
Finally got it. Took 6 hours. Two 2nd places, one 3rd place, one 4th place, and a whole lot of anger, lol. In the game where I won there were only 5 people left during Final Showdown. I had a level 6 car but guessed the perfect right direction and everybody else was on the other side of the circle. Got a perfect 3 second head start outside the circle, too. My heart was beating so fast. When there was one mile left and everybody was still far behind me, I thought, "Come on game, no bullshit." and proceeded to run directly into a barn hidden by some breakable trees. Luckily I was far enough ahead that I still made it in time, but man, I would have been so mad. laugh
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By KinectKid333 on 16 May 2020 02:51
If you have a friend playing it's quite easy to play with him and get from them a higher level car from a car drop. We queued up at the same time and got in the same game everytime. This way you can head-to-head race him and get his car easily without ever taking a car drop. This way you have an easier chance at winning.
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By IXxHotSaucexXI on 19 May 2020 06:36
The map was accurate as heck on my winning run!!! #7 ftw
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By qManballin on 07 Jun 2020 22:39
Actually shaking like a leaf after getting this! That was nerve shredding! I'm a very average driver but got a bit lucky on head to heads and had a level 8 Merc in the final. Gunned it with 3 seconds left on route 4 and it was spot on, I won comfortably! Thanks so much for this guide, would give 10 upvotes if I could!
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By BudgieK88 on 15 Jun 2020 21:42
A few final showdown locations not on the above map:

1) Final circle was on the right side of the "smaller circle 13". The showdown finish line was towards "Arthur's Seat". Another time when it was near the right of small circle 13 it ended up somewhere north of the city area.

2) Final circle was around/near the "Express Railyard" and the finish line was directly south somewhere between "MoorHead Wind Farm" and "Mudkicker's Adventure Park".

3)Final cricle was below the "big circle 10" and in between the "smaller circles 1,8,6". The finish line was somewhere towards "Lakehurst forest".

These are approx locations. Hope it helps people.
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By Absohail on 24 Jun 2020 08:43
Maybe I am the only one, don't try and do this in Winter, worst month to do Eliminator stuff in
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By folds2008 on 22 Jul 2020 05:43
Great guide. I beat a guy in a Bugatti and then lined myself up towards the final point. No one stood a chance.
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By on 28 Jul 2020 03:09
Just done it with the Mini, I can't believe it. Everyone was on the wrong side of the circle at the end which gave me a bit of a head start. Somebody in a Lamborghini passed me yards from the finish but crashed into a tree so I was very lucky.
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By mike1809 on 20 Aug 2020 16:28
Number 5 didn’t end near Edinburgh when I was just doing it, it ended near Derwent Forest
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By SpeedForce84 on 08 Sep 2020 20:37
Playing at present means about 20-30 people playing max because everyone is on FH 5...played numerous games tonight and final showdowns have been between 2 and 6 people, the later GMT it is the better
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By Team Brether on 24 Nov 2021 00:52
Even with 3 players at final showdown, when you’re in a lvl 1 car and everyone has a lvl 10 it’s impossible unless they are all stupid. Worst game mode ever + worst achievement. It’s the last one I need, this game is taking t’aime place on my drive just for this.
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By Dobermann X on 24 Dec 2021 00:38
Has to be the most soul destroying achievement I have encountered so far.... Can get 2nd place so many times even sometimes with the Mini I start with but there is always some other faster driver who nabs it a second before me. Such a pile of sh*t angry roll
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By Robot 3xpert on 29 Dec 2021 18:21
Finally got it, found a game while no-one is playing, we were 4 at start, then 3, sent 2 messages to the two people remaining asking if they can let me win with the mini. One of them left the game, the other one tried to f*** me, hopefully he was in a mini too and did a mistake at the end of the course one second before the end. So i beated him and got this stupid achievement. I'm done. Good luck everybody!
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By Dobermann X on 30 Dec 2021 23:06
Managed to do this my 2nd race. First race ended up messing up and hitting a tree at the end of a head to head and the 2nd race I managed to take a route no one else took and ended up winning.
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By SummerSauce1580 on 31 Dec 2021 09:33
Wow.. i just got really lucky, i was the only one loaded in LOL as soon as it started it finished and i got the achievement
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By Jerome1234R on 19 Apr 2022 19:23
Number 5 didn’t end near Edinburgh when I was just doing it, it ended near Derwent Forest
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By SpeedForce84 on 09 Sep 2020 05:57
It absolutely doesn’t help at all. Most of the path are wrong... because of this I’ve lost the only one that I could win because I have the Bugatti veyron, but I was on the exactly opposite side following your map... impossible to come back, even if was close because of the car. That means without this map I would have won.
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By Dobermann X on 15 Sep 2020 22:52
Most of these are incorrect. Could you take some time to look through and update please.
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By MrFunkoPop996 on 20 Sep 2020 15:37
I can’t even find a match for this game mode. F for my completion
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By DB1 on 24 Sep 2020 19:45
How many cars/players needed to start this eliminator? I was thinking about starting it when Forza Motorsport is released that way this dlc is almost dead and double box it.
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By Super Kidbuu#815 on 24 Sep 2020 22:00
It’s actually not bad, I didn’t realise I hadn’t updated, so I was matching with other people who hadn’t updated. Finding games in under 2 mins now
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By DB1 on 25 Sep 2020 15:49
Just a comment about your map, they have changed a lot of the ending areas and finale locations. Out of the 20ish times I reached the finale, only #7 seems to still be 100% accurate (I got this twice, and used it to win, so big thank you for it). The rest are slightly different, and I had at least 10 unique finales.
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By x1001x Puppys on 29 Sep 2020 21:20
x1001x Puppys is right. The endings are all different now.
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By cSilent on 04 Oct 2020 05:37
This achievement is ridiculous. I’ve tried winning H2H and for some reason being in a fast car gets me more challenges so I’m eliminated. I’ve tried hiding and getting final showdown and I am in the lead but the faster cars just always get there first.
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By TJ Eliminator on 29 Oct 2020 10:30
My best tip to anyone struggling with this... be aggressive, and challenge cars. If you are in a lvl 3 and see a lol 6 or higher... screw it, try for it.

I have won a lot of head to heads because they screwed up, and I end up with their much nicer car. If you lose... screw it, get back in and try again.

If you can get yourself in a nice lol 7 or 8 car you have a great shot at winning. Try and guess where that finish line is on the final showdown and go for it.
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By GrimaceTheGrey on 04 Nov 2020 02:23
Does it have to be with a lvl 1 car though?

The reason i ask is because if you beat another opponent in a head to head you get their car or a better one without getting a car drop, its a car swap or does these still count as a car drop?
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By on 13 Dec 2019 06:21
I think it's still classed as a car drop, at least in my eyes. When you choose a car after a head to head it shows the car drop animation so I feel like it's still classed as a car drop which is why I didn't try to do any head-to-heads.

I know that getting new cars from head-to-heads don't count towards the car drop achievement. Maybe it's ok or it's bugged, I didn't want to test it out to be honest.
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By xDAKx on 13 Dec 2019 06:57
I think the achievement can be buggy though as I did all the above in one game and neither pacifist or the no drop achievement popped.. I had to re do pacifist to get it to unlock and I haven’t managed to win since so yeah....
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By The Manic Moose on 13 Dec 2019 07:18
Does it have to be with a lvl 1 car though?

The reason i ask is because if you beat another opponent in a head to head you get their car or a better one without getting a car drop, its a car swap or does these still count as a car drop?
Jeah I was wondering the same.... I would be surprised if you cant pick up a car from a won 1vs1.... but jeah, you never know...
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By Snow Marley on 13 Dec 2019 07:35
Yeah that's fucked up as i just won the eliminator in the mini with a second to spare and the achievement didn't unlock angry

I have a question though as the 30sec countdown timer started i took off outside of the area and just sprinted in one direction and luckily for me the finish line was in the direction I was heading, however i'm wondering if you need to be in the final circle for it to count.
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By on 13 Dec 2019 07:43
@ Blue n Gold Eel I was in the circle before the 30 second countdown started and drove out of it at 20 seconds, you don't need to be in the circle before the Final Showdown officially starts. At least that's what happened for me.
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By xDAKx on 13 Dec 2019 08:39
I really hope you can get new cars from Head-to-Head races. I mean... The name of the achievement is Heads Up and the picture shows not the mini.
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By Cult of Puma on 13 Dec 2019 09:09
Is there any way of replicating the bug for no H2H? Or is the solution saying you simply encountered it and it remained until you dashboarded out? I'm confused.
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By NoHeroes94 on 13 Dec 2019 09:18
@ NoHeroes94 No no, it was a bug my friend and I encountered, no idea how to replicate it, sadly. To get rid of the bug you can just dashboard and reload. I found just hiding around the edges in the ring in bushes or trees etc helped me get to the final round almost every time.
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By xDAKx on 13 Dec 2019 09:41
I can confirm you can upgrade your car through head-to-head victories without voiding any requirements for this achievement.
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By stiminal on 13 Dec 2019 09:47
^ Thanks stiminal, i will try it again and see what happens.

Ok DAK, i was on the edge of the circle and as soon as the timer started counting down i took off in the mini, won but no cheevo.
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By on 13 Dec 2019 10:11
xDAKx - when I did both pacifist and heads up in the same match but didn't unlock either, I hadn't left the circle before the timer ended so I don't think it has anything to do with that. Unfortunately some achievements are just buggy. The pacifist unlocked when I re-did it later that evening but haven't been successful in winning again to try the heads up yet.
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By The Manic Moose on 13 Dec 2019 11:35
@ The Manic Moose Thanks for letting me know. It guess it's gonna be hit and miss for people until the bugs are irons out.
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By xDAKx on 13 Dec 2019 11:38
Yeah just got it with a lvl 2 car i won from someone challenging me from a head to head. So yeah its buggy and can be done from cars won.
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By on 13 Dec 2019 11:45
Thanks for confirmation
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By xDAKx on 13 Dec 2019 11:46
Well that desciption already says ".. without aquiring any car drops". Dunno whats this discussion here. Head to head races are not car drops.
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By Recovski on 13 Dec 2019 13:30
@ Recovski Yeah I know but I wasn't sure because when you win a head-to-head and accept a new car, it's the exact same car drop animation. I wasn't 100% sure if it was classed as a car drop or not. But now we know it's not one so it's all good.
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By xDAKx on 13 Dec 2019 13:49
Worst achievement to date 😔, makes "back of the pack" look easy 😄.
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By EinarN on 13 Dec 2019 15:58
I won a game using a car I won in head-to-head, but the achievement didn't pop. I later won a game using level 1 car and I still didn't unlock it. After I restarted the game it finally popped, so this is definitely buggy.
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By SavlarSK on 13 Dec 2019 17:05
I just got this, I did the tactic of hiding and ended up winning in the mini. I'll start off by saying, if I can do this, anyone can. I'm not good at racing games, especially not in multiplayer. It's definitely more luck than anything.

The trick I found was to find a good hiding spot, not just near the edge of the circle. I looked for large obstacles that people would drive past as they were heading towards the centre. I'm talking things like large buildings, small hills etc. Then, hide in a bush on the inner side of the obstacle, people don't tend to look back. The finale is really a case of just betting on a direction and going for it, I left around 17 seconds still on the timer and level 9 cars didn't even come into view. I did 3 finales before I guessed on the right direction.
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By A 0 E Monkey on 13 Dec 2019 17:14
I finally unlocked it.
Beat the other car by a thousands of a second or less :) (see video).
I did use the cars I won from head-to-head races, also started racing out of the circle as soon as possible.
https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/einarn/video/83256988
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By EinarN on 13 Dec 2019 22:51
I finished 4th with a Level 1 car. End me cry
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By NoHeroes94 on 13 Dec 2019 23:04
@NoHeroes94 I got 3rd and 2nd in my mini before I got my 1st so keep going and you'll get it. If you can get 4th, you can get 1st! :)
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By A 0 E Monkey on 13 Dec 2019 23:08
UPDATE: Can corroborate SavlarSK's claim. It unlocked, 5 minutes later, after restarting the game (during the always very long loading in sequence). If you get this, but it doesn't pop wait for the next game to start searching, quit to dashboard, and re-load the game!

I just won from upgrading a car via a H2H ONLY, but not picking up one from any other means. No achievement FFS.
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By NoHeroes94 on 13 Dec 2019 23:19
Great tips guys, got it :D Final circle near the Eliminator icon on the map, and the final point of the race in the Edinburgh.
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By Orchii on 14 Dec 2019 00:48
DAK you mad lad this worked on my first attempt, I can guarantee that if you get to the last 12 and are hidden just outside the circle look toward the middle of the map and the finish line will be around it, managed to get 2 wins, 1 with the mini and one with a lvl 5 car.
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By Wylaf Beulbe on 14 Dec 2019 02:20
Yet to be able to do it, but the guide has worked to win the eliminator. Now just to keep trying to hope it works for this too. One time I thought it'd go south but instead went east, to the south of Edinburgh I think
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By FireWheels58 on 14 Dec 2019 02:56
Heart is beating like crazy. I won with a starting car on my 2nd match! I got pacifist on the first game but drove the wrong direction. Now to grind drops and wins
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By Fuzzmeister J on 14 Dec 2019 03:26
Echoing what a few others said, I won in the Mini and restarted the game. Achievement popped when the game loaded.
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By HomelyBumRocket on 14 Dec 2019 03:42
What is absolutely critical is that you always know after there around 15-20 left how to get to the centre quickly. As soon as you get to 12, leg it roughly towards the centre of the map irrespective of the storm! A lot of people don't do this, and hover around the circle! Go INTO the storm. You won't die in the 30 seconds countdown. The end of the final showdown is more often in the middle of the map, and twice now I've won without anyone close to me doing this as I've accumulated a massive head start.
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By NoHeroes94 on 14 Dec 2019 10:19
shet, I was 2nd 2 times... maybe third time's a charm
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By roolf92 on 14 Dec 2019 16:25
Same here in regards to it unlocking only after relaunching the game.

But I still don't have Pacifist despite doing this achievement in the Mini.

Buggy piece of shit.
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By TheGillesMuller on 14 Dec 2019 16:55
You can also gun it out of the circle before the final countdown. The Final Showdown always begins with a 30 sec timer when there are twelve drivers remaining. If you haven't used up your Timeout meter yet, you can survive a couple minutes outside the zone. Just go when there are thirteen left for an even bigger head start (unless everyone mopes around and doesn't challenge each other for that last head-to-head, then you could be screwed lol)
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By HomelyBumRocket on 14 Dec 2019 17:08
I love you DAK!! THANK YOU!!
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By Kostja93 on 14 Dec 2019 17:29
Still trying but don't get caught outside the elimination zone before the last zone so you can leave the final circle as soon as the last person is eliminated. I just left the circle with 25 seconds left and still had time to spare. Still got to guess the right direction though :(

Also, don't bother hiding, you still appear as a big pink circle on everyone's map, lol. Aim for somewhere furthest from any roads but it's pretty difficult as the last circle is so small.

EDIT: Got it with a level 5 car. Definitely easier if you can win 1 or 2 head to head races and upgrade your car. I also had to exit the game to Home, quit and restart to get it to pop.
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By Beanpotter on 14 Dec 2019 17:47
Finally got it! Looked behind me and no one was on the mini map, it was just arrows. So not a single person knew a mini won
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By FireWheels58 on 14 Dec 2019 18:10
Just got this after 47 games of Eliminator. Finshed 2nd three times and in the final round like 20 times. It was a bit frustating but the tips from the solution helped a lot.
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By LeGagnan on 17 Dec 2019 19:47
Wow. Incredible tips. Thanks TA community. Got this with the mini on my first opportunity. Started leaving the final circle with about 15 seconds left on the clock and beat a level ten car by a second.
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By Unky Ky on 18 Dec 2019 03:08
Just met the requirements for this by Upgrading, won and NOTHING happened. No achievement, absolute BS.
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By T00 Exhausted on 18 Dec 2019 06:05
What’s the population like for this mode now? Is it any easier?
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By Jaggers UK on 07 Dec 2020 18:04
I dont think it has gotten easier. Im still doing a round from time to time trying to get it done, but there was never a lobby with less than 40 people at the start.
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By WapTack on 08 Dec 2020 13:13
Who ever said this would be hard man I got the hardest ach on my 4th game lol I love it
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By on 12 Dec 2020 18:22
Nearly got it with the mini on my second attempt using your map as a guide. Messed up a corner and got stuck but ended up third
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By notoriousJMZ on 19 Dec 2020 02:53
I finally did this for a second time. (for whatever reason, it didn't unlock first time back when the dlc was released so I stopped playing it). Got 3 achievements in the one run. Level 10 car, beat opponent 5 lower, and this. And only got it by about a second because the finish was sneakily behind a building. Thankfully the other 2 peeps hit the building too. Argghh. I'm still shaking.

The absolute feeling of relief at being able to polish up 50 games and 100 pick ups without giving a hoot about racing. Best feeling ever.
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By planchetflaw on 19 Dec 2020 03:00
Started up first game of Eliminator today. Ended up winning with the Mini first try lol
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By Ridge Reapers on 22 Dec 2020 04:45
I was also able to finally get this. Unless youre a super good driver you should really go for an agressive playstile to eliminate as many players as possible and of course gettin a better car. I ended up in the final showdown with a LV9 car and only 4 players left. Made this a whole lot easier.
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By WapTack on 27 Dec 2020 17:29
The picture with the Final location in the Showdown, helps me a lot. One try and the achievement was mine. Thanks
(Sry for my english )
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By PlatinMike on 03 Jan 2021 11:28
I don't get it, so do I need to win in the Mini or can I take the other players cars and still get this achievement?
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By Gee20vt on 23 Nov 2023 22:06
OMG, I'ven't been so annoyed in a long time. This achieve is dumb AF!!
Even when I get luck I get unlucky. Managed to get a lvl 6 fast, but in the second ring lost to a lvl 10 u.u
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By SoniMail on 27 Apr 2022 15:29
I got this when winning my first eliminator game after a chap very kindly gifted me the victory on final showdown. However I HAD grabbed car drops prior to this, I was in a level 4 and he was in a level 10. Heads up popped when it shouldn't but the beating a car 5 levels above you didn't.

Glitchy! But not complaining.
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By yossariano on 03 Jun 2022 13:47
@Yossariano, the beat 5 level ones are not linked to the Final, but the Head-to-Heads before the Final.
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By KGI KlikoNL on 06 Jul 2022 21:16
wondering if anyone wants to try to get this achievement as a group. if your interested msg me GT: PooperDooperYT
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By dooperrr on 15 Jul 2022 03:53
If there is someone who still want to do it in group msg me.
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By Amnumnate on 22 Mar 2023 19:31
Hello all, I just thought I would clear up the requirements for this achievement. You cannot collect any car drops in the world - but you CAN get the achievement by winning it in a car you obtained in a head to head. I took the chance after I won a L9 Ferrari FF just before the final showdown, got to the end and Heads Up achievement popped. YOU DO NOT have to win it in a L1 Mini Cooper
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By Alias DJA on 11 Apr 2023 09:05
Your English was basically perfect. Much better than many native English speakers. Never be sorry for using and practicing a skill.
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By planchetflaw on 09 Jan 2021 15:09
Nice guide, a bit long, but thanks to it, got the 3 hardest achievements in Eliminator in a single run after a few attempts.
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By LukzillaX on 10 Jan 2021 03:38
This is all luck. I was nearly finishing with a level 3 car. A dumb with a veyron challenged me and he smashed with some houses. I got the achievement of level 10, winning eliminator and wining without drops
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By UnfurledEmu75 on 10 Jan 2021 10:14
COMPLETADO 15-01-21
Solo no tomes ningún carro que esta por el mapa, puedes desafiar a otros autos y tomar su carro pero no los del mapa.
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By ElPolloLoco7u7 on 15 Jan 2021 14:52
This achievement is way easier if you grab a friend and work together. Me and a buddy both got it within a couple tries by searching at the same time and having one person collect car drops and then give a decent car to the other person going for the achievement.
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By Hurricane Matt on 26 Jan 2021 02:44
I only have a couple of achievements left and I know this will be the very last one I obtain. Absolutely dreading trying to tackle this.
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By Stumbows on 08 Feb 2021 04:36
FUCK whoever's responsible for this achievement at Playground Games!
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By Podcir on 13 Feb 2021 02:22
It took me 41 tries, but I've finally won this. It was an absolute nightmare, but it is absolutely possible. Just win head to heads and hope you get lucky with a good location for the final race
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By DJBringa on 14 Feb 2021 22:59
But how can I change the car I’m starting with? I’ve bought a 10 tier Lambo and a hoonigan, however still only the Mini shows up…
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By muszmusz40 on 22 Feb 2021 16:38
From my understanding you cannot change your starting car as everyone starts out on the same level. It is a battle royale, it wouldn't be fair if you could start with a Level 10.
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By Mr DopeGaming on 22 Feb 2021 17:22
Remove those spoiler warnings, dude.. There's nothing to spoil in a racing game...
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By Podcir on 22 Feb 2021 21:07
Every eliminator I’ve managed to reach final round, none of the final locations are on the map above, not sure if they have updated it and changed locations. I haven’t had one of those areas on that map
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By I ima Pokemon I on 26 Feb 2021 13:44
Got it with the level 10 car.

I don't get any drop car but I won 5 head to head races in the match. I had luck that i found one with a level 10 car near the quarry and I won him with a level 5 car.
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By dresinos on 15 Dec 2019 17:01
Finally got this one as well. It’s an extremely frustrating achievement sadly.

I ended up winning a race against a level 7 Audi (giving me Underdog) and then got challenged by a level 3 to upgrade to a level 8 Audi. Both these victories honestly were luck based. In the first I was in the Mini and the second had a few bad crashes at the start (nighttime + buildings). Still, managed to make it to the final 12. Which is where the major luck comes into play.

I was fortunate that the match had cornered us into the southern village (near the windmill jump) and heading north was the safest bet, which finally worked. I managed to finally win despite Forza being Forza and having an airborne jump land me in a tree which had me fall through the floor. As you can image my heart nearly stopped since all I could do was wait to respawn.

Honestly, the hardest/most luck based part of this achievement is the final run. Despite having a 2/3 chance most of the time to get a general direction right, the game almost ALWAYS seemed to choose the opposite way I was going.

Not gonna lie. This one sucks... It’s hard, frustrating, and annoying when you consider very little of the game has been about multiplayer victories achievement-wise.

My advice: take plenty of breaks and don’t be afraid to work on other achievements if you feel like you’ve hit a wall. It’s possible, but don’t expect this to come easily unless you really understand Forza and racing. Which, considering I’ve never driven a car is not me.

Best of luck fellow achievement hunters!
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By TBurningHunter on 15 Dec 2019 17:30
I think I must have used up all my luck, I got this in my first ever game! I used your tips and won quite comfortably. Thanks
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By Xterm1n8or on 16 Dec 2019 14:58
I think my achievement is bugged. I upgraded my car from head to head races, being a Lamborghini Urus and won a game but my achievement counter on Xbox is saying 50% and I didn't picked up any drops.
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By Sgt Lubasz12 on 16 Dec 2019 21:37
@ Sgt Lubasz12 if you completed the requirements then dashboard, quit and restart the game. That should unlock it. It's buggy like that and restarting the game should unlock it.
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By xDAKx on 17 Dec 2019 04:50
xDAKx OMG it worked thank you mate ;)
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By Sgt Lubasz12 on 17 Dec 2019 10:54
I don't know if they changed how hiding works, but I've been in spots far off the roads and nearly invisible and watched pink dots make a beeline for me, so I don't think there's really any reason to hide unless you like being easy pickings for those using the mini map
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By GhostWrex on 17 Dec 2019 12:52
Lovely solution! The last zone was dead center of the map. I went towards edinburgh and the checkpoint was at the castle.
Left the zone at 25 secs left and won by a mile
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By IINUMB3R44 on 17 Dec 2019 19:34
Did this in the Mini, it can be done, I would suggest just hide until the end, guess the finish and hope for a little luck.
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By supadryz on 28 Dec 2019 00:42
I won with the level 1 and didn't got the achievement, neither after restarting the game :(
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By IBKJJ on 18 Dec 2019 22:00
I can confirm that the timer has already been patched. I think the timer now expires in three seconds outside of the zone. Now, the only way to get this achievement legitimately is to win head-to-head races and steal cars before the final countdown.
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By PRSxHeAdShOt on 19 Dec 2019 17:49
Came to add the note that guessing the finishing point and setting off early has been patched. Not sure I'll ever be able to get this now and with 50+ player required lobbies I doubt it will be boastable even if the popularity of the mode dies
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By Shadowclast on 19 Dec 2019 19:39
Has it actually been patched yet?
I've just loaded the game up and didn't get an update.
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By mike1809 on 19 Dec 2019 19:47
It was patched today 19/12/2019, now the damage in the last ring has increased.
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By MauricioLost07 on 19 Dec 2019 19:52
Came to add the note that guessing the finishing point and setting off early has been patched. Not sure I'll ever be able to get this now and with 50+ player required lobbies I doubt it will be boastable even if the popularity of the mode dies

I've been second 4 times now, including one with the new rules, the bar fills quickly now, wouldn't even like to be out of bounds 2 seconds
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By Shadowclast on 19 Dec 2019 19:54
Looks like I'll be playing it until I unlock all the other achievements and if I've not got it by then I won't bother.
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By mike1809 on 19 Dec 2019 19:56
Shit, so yestreday I won with a mini and get glitched and didn't get the achievement and now it's patched and this is almost impossible to get... So great... angry
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By IBKJJ on 19 Dec 2019 19:56
Its not impossible but you're position yourself well during the final area, have managed to upgrade your car to the middle levels

During that game I got 'Heads Up' I also got 'Underdog' I took someones Level 8 Audi R8 but I've won game since in the Mid-level 4x4s which are much more stable and if you have to start from low speed in a field have about the same top speed

Remember if you're racing to Ashbrook, its has a lot of none breakable walls
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By Shadowclast on 19 Dec 2019 20:29
I just did it in a level 2 golf. The only advice I can give is go the opposite way than everyone else in the final showdown and one time you will get lucky and it will give you a short race to the line
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By TheValiants1876 on 19 Dec 2019 21:00
I've come close a few times tonight but it's time to give up now I think. I can't put into words how much I hate this mode and it really isn't worth the stress.
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By mike1809 on 19 Dec 2019 22:08
Looks like our fun is coming to an end. Patch rolling out now - https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/360041...

"Significantly increased the damage to the players outside the Arena when it has shrunk to its final size."

Glad I managed to knock this out late last night.
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By terrett101 on 19 Dec 2019 22:45
I would say doing this in the Mini (which I did 3 imes) is now going to be almost impossible. You will want to grab a better car and still try and predict where the finish line will appear.
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By Naranek on 19 Dec 2019 23:03
Glad I could take advantage of the old method as well and unlock the achievement. And I got it with the Galant VR-4, which manages to be even worse than the Mini somehow even though it's a level 2 car.

Today, after the update, I tried getting out of the safe area to predict the final destination with the Volvo, a level 3 car, and got eliminated in 5 seconds or less. Indeed, it's going to be real though if you're stuck with the Mini or any low-level car.
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By HITO on 20 Dec 2019 01:57
Passed this achievement 5 days ago but it didn't unlock. Won without any heads up in my starter car. Made a video and uploaded it.
Started the game today to see if they might have patched it yesterday, but nothing.
Hope the still work on that. Really don't wanna go for this achievement again.
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By Boernie247 on 20 Dec 2019 10:19
this achv may be buggy, i win the game with mini(LV1), don't unlock it.
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By MarsMacao on 24 Dec 2019 03:22
Just wanted to say I looked at your map. Got number 10. It was perfectly accurate, which was lucky because I was in a level 2 car. I had a massive lead on everyone else and just won it. Thank you.
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By Hercules SR117 on 02 Mar 2021 07:17
This achievement is pure BULLSHIT
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By Louie Serene on 07 Mar 2021 21:07
@gee20vt You can't take car drops but you can and obv should race against other players to get better cars that way around.
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By Viva Vizionz on 08 Dec 2023 22:41
Virtually impossible now. All this just goes to show how quickly they can put an update out when it suits. Anything else and we'd have been waiting weeks or even months for an update. There's even issues that have been with the game since launch which have still not been fixed.
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By mike1809 on 02 Jan 2020 20:47
Just done it after getting very lucky with beating a lvl5 Dodge Ram with a lvl2 VW Golf in a extremely tight head-to-head, pretty much scraping each other at the end. Won the Final Showdown in the same match with the lvl6 Bowler S after getting a huge head start yet nearly having a Ferrari FF beating me in a awful forest section at the end.

Took me 11 games overall to get the hardest cheevos out of the way, not bad.
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By Tendoman77 on 08 Jan 2020 03:06
Thank you so much for the guide, I’m in no way a great driver so this really helped. I highly recommend once getting into the final showdown to look at the map that the guide has provided, I found my route and aimed for the destination before anyone knew where it was, it was still close in the end but the other guys were going through forests when there was a perfectly good road that lead the way. Thanks again.
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By VoicelessMidget on 08 Jan 2020 07:47
I was in orange during the round where I got the achievement and I have a screenshot of me finishing. I'm not really sure where exactly in Edinburgh this location is but I think it's the northeast part of the city. Now I got the achievement before the patch, but the endpoint location should be the same. https://www.trueachievements.com/gamescreenshot.aspx?gsid=21...
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By The Last Flight on 09 Jan 2020 07:05
Thank you so much for the map and everything finally got this achievement and winning eliminatior at the same time :)
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By naptimex on 14 Jan 2020 23:18
I just won in my mini and no achievement.. i restarted the game and nothing .. i restarted the console and still no achievement.. thats some bs!
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By isi nine on 15 Jan 2020 09:01
For what I can remember, I had the "Lighthouse" as end-point from the ORANGE showdown at Stonehenge. So I think, the general direction is North(-East); either Edinburgh or the Lighthouse. Did not win unfortunately (still don't...)
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By Dokter V on 15 Jan 2020 15:48
Yeah, looks like each spot may have multiple endpoints. I was also watching random Eliminator videos on Youtube and I noticed that in a lot of the videos, the final circles were consistent with the spots on the map, but the finish lines were different.
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By The Last Flight on 16 Jan 2020 04:34
Shoutout to Dokter V for the comment that the Orange circle usually has the endpoint to the Northeast. It was at the beach for me below the lighthouse. I was using a level 4 Lancer and got a huge headstart at the final showdown and finished well before anyone else. toast
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By o0EviIToaster0o on 16 Jan 2020 08:41
Thank you so much for creating this map. Great work.
This was the motivation I needed to redo this achievement since it didn't unlock for me a few weeks ago.
The Eliminator is such a great game mode but this chevo made me hate it ...
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By Boernie247 on 16 Jan 2020 20:36
The map is a gift from God.
Having the knowledge to know which direction to go at the end is super helpful.
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By MI1BURN on 16 Jan 2020 22:16
Awesome, I'm glad the map is helping. I've updated it with 2 potential areas for orange based off the comments.
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By xDAKx on 18 Jan 2020 10:54
Finally got this. Thanks for the map as that really helped at the end! We finished in zone 6 which is fairly central and knowing that the finish line was going to be East gave me a nice headstart over the field! (Also i timed my run perfect so i left the zone at full speed just as the count down ended)
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By CheshireMulisha on 21 Jan 2020 20:14
Just finished another event where the final showdown was at Glen Rannoch (north of the railyard) and we finished at the wind farm more or less exactly where the eliminator icon is on the map.
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By CheshireMulisha on 22 Jan 2020 19:41
The map idea is great but here not seems accurate anymore. Anyone been through that too?
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By lLeoOneBR on 27 Jan 2020 21:47
Yeah same I just had spot 8 end up going the complete opposite way. It could just be too random to really map out. It was all coming together for me until the lady told me to turn around at the end. Hahaha
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By SPARTAN3 on 12 Feb 2020 04:35
I literally twice have got up to a level 9/10 car without drops and then they just win the final race before I can even get near the finish line. I lost yesterday by literally a nose length! So frustrating! Also, whenever I challenge anyone it always gives them the advantage of having the finish line in the direction they are driving, never in my direction.
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By IAmSAMU3Lx on 08 Mar 2021 12:57
I did it guys! So how I did it was luckily I got into a game with only 9 players so I just sat back in the mini and the final race was between just me and one other person. I followed the map from the top of this thread and beat him in the mini quite comfortably. Glad to get this one out the way.
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By IAmSAMU3Lx on 12 Mar 2021 13:35
Congratulations IAmSAMU3Lx!! clap You gave me faith this can be done :-) I'll keep trying
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By RedShark on 12 Mar 2021 16:50
I have never been so angry at an achievement in my life. I legitimately and tempted to uninstall this fabulous game due to this aggravating achieve.
I've probably played 30 games, and like, I'm decent at racing. Probably final ring 28 of those times. And of those. OH I DONT KNOW. Second and Third place, 20 of them. And always get shut out to some just stupidity.

I am the NoLuckFox for a reason. And it shines right here. I can't do it. I'm over this stupid achievement.
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By MrNoLuckFox on 20 Mar 2021 20:24
I did it!!! I finally did it!! In the mini also!! After 49 matches!!!!!
My only advice is to play late at night as you only get put up against roughly 10-15 people! Good luck everyone, persistence is key! And a lot of damn luck!
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By I ima Pokemon I on 28 Mar 2021 01:36
@NoLuckFox - Lol! Love a good rage comment. We all know your pain... Ya just gotta persist. Eventually luck will be in your favor. I ended up getting it after **54 attempts**. - My tip for everyone: stay on the perimeter of the circle and only challenge people that are heading straight for you from the inside. Finding a road on the perimeter leading inwards is even better. The finish point is always in the circle somewhere so you get the instant directional advantage. You can beat cars that are way higher a level than you so long as you don't hit unbreakables.
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By IconoclasticGod on 07 Apr 2021 03:55
I got incredibly lucky, a level 9 Camaro just stopped by the finish line and let me win and the final zone was behind me I was at the horizon festival and the final zone was at the beginning of the M68 such a lucky encounter!!! PATIENCE and you’ll get there if you’re struggling
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By Wwau on 12 Apr 2021 18:25
Got this on my 27th match but used a slightly different strategy and just went full on aggression the entire time. I was seeking out and challenging any person that I came across, regardless of their car rank - knowing full well that I would lose a lot of these matchups - but that this would allow me to quickly hop right into the next game and try again.

Eventually my 'plan' paid off and I edged a win versus a level 6 car with my Mini after he messed up during our race several times. Continued the aggression and had a level 10 Hoonigan by the final showdown. Got to the final checkpoint first and it wasn't even close!

#1 of 46 sure felt good. :D
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By XaevFox1 on 15 Apr 2021 01:45
I got this in the mini on my second try if you can actually believe that. I stayed away from people the whole game and used my superior tree-dodging skills to win the finale. My heart rate was 140 btw.
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By BlindBanjo88 on 19 Apr 2021 02:02
In terms of getting a car itself - the best strategy I found was basically going East to West on the 2 long straight ( ish ) roads above and below the lake. It’s also a good starting point, and chances are if your flat out down these roads just challenge someone you see and you’ll have a decent head start to the head to head.
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By Alias DJA on 11 Apr 2023 09:33
Thanks You, my first win on eliminator AND with no car drops ! You're map very help me ! Thanks 😁😁😁
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By Falx Maenius on 12 Apr 2023 22:21
Just a small tip. If you challenge someone who is driving towards you, the end point will spawn in front of you, giving you some lead. You accelerate and smash that horn hoping for the best.
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By Siguardius on 23 Apr 2023 17:03
I just won this, winning against 2 others in an R8. It's one of the most tense, and most difficult achievements I've done in a long time. Took like 4 hours, including breaks. My GOD.

Y'know what, though? I think that's the hardest achievement in the game I had left to do out of the way. At least in my view. Once you've done this the rest of the Eliminator should be way less stressful, just more grindy.
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By FarmYardGaming1 on 09 Jun 2023 23:28
The Mini drives a lot better than you might think, actually. I was fighting against Level 4, even Level 5 cars and winning. Take corners faster than you might think and you'll hold momentum a lot better - I just challenged everything I could see and took the car if I won. If you're between trees or hay bales the Mini is nimble enough to hold its own against other drivers - bank on them being clumsy or reacting late and capitalise on it.

I'd say at least 3 H2Hs puts you in great stead for this - conveniently that's an achievement in this update. I find that the location ends up being as far away from the majority of peolpe as possible, which is very helpful when you get into a quiet game where it ends with 3 or so people. This is happening a lot more nowadays, no more 40-car showdowns in my experience. Floor it.
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By FarmYardGaming1 on 09 Jun 2023 23:54
This achievement definitely require patients, a little bit of luck but a lot of patience. I recommend taking frequent breaks, don't focus on winning. The more you think about winning the easier it is to make mistakes. Also, I found it a lot easier to win head-to-heads on the weekends. Maybe it due to a lot of younger players be allowed to play. So if you're struggling to beat players try that. I don't even know how many games I came close to winning all for a high level player to fly right past me.
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By h senghhh 96 on 20 Apr 2021 00:40
Patience? Been trying for 2-3months now. This is by FAR(!!!) the hardest achievement I've tried to aquire, this far.
Still haven't popped it.
Connection issues=loading times up to even as far as to 30mins, I'm not joking.

And when finally joined just to be eliminated among first bunch. Best today have been a 6th place(happened once). Rest is 30+... Feels like I'm joining servers from another universe;
Even so bad that one of my opponents honked their horn to start a race and had about 500-1000meters headstart due to lag.
Even got question why I didn't raced that time...

So this will be done with boosting by me, because I'm fed up with this piece of shit achievement;
Could've finished off FH2 during all the time I've put up to "Crapinator"-mode.
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By Becker SWE on 13 May 2021 21:27
The map still works.
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By AcTive PuNtCh on 20 Jun 2021 20:04
Soo.. can you get cars via head-to-heads or not?
Is it patched or not? This guide is informative but kind of a mess
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By Miko ohne Hose on 10 Jul 2021 18:53
I took an approach of challenging players super early in the game and often. By staying near the edge, I was able to guess the direction most of the time. I won 5 head-to-head races and got a level 7 car. I took a guess on the final showdown, and almost everyone else went the opposite direction except one level 5 car. I won. I got the achievement.

This was my 43rd game of eliminator over all (though not my 43rd specifically trying for this achievement). I got close a couple other times with 2nd places in level 9/10 cars after lucky head-to-heads, but unlucky showdowns. My games all had 30-60 players at the start.
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By Master Okojo on 13 Jul 2021 05:43
I got the achievement without even attempting it due to a network issue.

I was like 30 seconds into a match, still with the initial car, when something happened to the wifi or the server and I got disconnected. Probably the game thought all the other players had left the game and gave me the achievement. It didn't give me the achievement "Survive until the Final Showdown in a Level 1 car." because there was no showdown.

If someone is desperate to get this achievement they can try messing with the network during a match to see if they can reproduce the issue. Not sure what exactly happened to me.
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By SrXimo on 19 Jul 2021 21:11
By no car drops does this achievement mean to win the Eliminator with the Lvl 1 Mini and avoid car drop points or can you challenge others and pick up cars from h2h races and win that way??
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By TheHuggyBear89 on 07 Aug 2021 10:17
This was by far the hardest achievement in the game, to obtain it is just pure luck. what I did was play super late at night where I managed to get in a lobby with 10 players. I then got super lucky and went head-to-head with a level 7 car vs my level 1 mini and somehow won (he probably hit a tree). Once the final circle came around I was against 4 other players and again I got super lucky and guessed the direction of the final destination and managed to win. I think I woke up my girlfriend cause I screamed when I got the achievement because it took me over 40+ games to get this.

As an FYI for anyone going for this chevo, the map provided here seems to be outdated. I think the locations on the map corresponded maybe 2 or 3 times out of my 40+ games. So I wouldn't rely heavily on the map

And to answer @TheHuggyBear89 above yes you can challenge other players and take their cars but you cannot pick p the car drops that are marked with purple smoke.
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By TOKAREV FL on 11 Aug 2021 20:52
Just had a lvl 9 with 8 drivers left challenge an 8 takes us 800m over slightly bumpy hills, my car veers all over after every hill he straight shots it no problem. What a joke achievement. Can have a lvl 7 opponent in first 30 seconds and all it comes down to is who hits less trees smh
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By Cortanarama on 14 Aug 2021 06:39
The salt in the comment section. Its not that hard just play the game well. No shortcuts.
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By RaptureSirPrize on 01 Sep 2021 21:26
I got this just a couple of days ago and I found that searching later at night (10pm EST or later) resulted in getting smaller matches (anywhere between 6-20 people), whereas my one daytime match that I attempted found 26 people. MOST of them later at night end up being in the 12-16 range. No matter how many people are there at the start, and no matter how many people are in the final showdown, it's still highly luck based.
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By shadowninja25 on 15 Jan 2024 18:33
Nope. Achievements like this that will always prevent me from getting 100% completion.

Edit; upvoting guide for your patience and willingness to help anyone crazy enough to do it!
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By TheLungZ on 02 Apr 2024 22:41
I just managed to get this in about 4 attempts. I was in a very small lobby (15 players to begin with, 6 of them immediately left) and the "final showdown" never happened - got to the final 2, challenged the final player to a head-to-head, and they messed up. I think trying to find a very small lobby is the best way of doing this (I played at 11pm GMT, there may be a better time to play for even less players).
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By TheMightyHead1 on 28 May 2024 22:15
Quick edit for ya, if you meet the requirements and it doesn't unlock close the game then do a hard reset, when you load into the world it should then pop... you may have already put that in your wall but I'm too lazy to read today.
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By T00 Exhausted on 18 Dec 2019 06:13
I won without picking up any car drops and solely earning my cars through head-to-head races, but the achievement didn't pop (Actually it's at 50%, which really doesn't make sense lol). So I wonder if selecting an upgrade car after winning a head-to-head counts as a car drop (it does play the car drop animation), even though those cars don't count for the Scavenger achievement.

So, maybe you either have to win with the Mini, or win with cars you've only taken from head-to-head opponents.
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By HomelyBumRocket on 13 Dec 2019 06:19
@ Blue n Gold Eel First of all, nice work on the win. But secondly, it's crappy that it didn't unlock. I can't say why it didn't unlock for you unfortunately.

One other person has encountered this as well. It must be a bug. I tend to wait til 20 seconds and then go, but I doubt that would have been the issue.

I've encountered a few bugs in this as well as others. Some have gotten upgraded cars from head-to-heads and not gotten the achievement while others have.

It seems like this whole mode is a bit buggy and hopefully it will be a delayed unlock so you don't have to do it again. If it's not, hopefully it will unlock for you the second time round. Sorry I can't be anymore help than that.
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By xDAKx on 13 Dec 2019 10:48
Got it from using level 1 mini. Your tips were perfect. I got seen when there was only 14 people left but I managed to gun it through some trees and the sportier higher level cars couldnt keep up off road. I guessed a north direction and just gunned it when there was 20 seconds left. I made some bad choices and went through some water and crashd into a tree which slowed me down but I managed to pick it up and win. I think the second car was maybe 10 seconds behind me at this point due to my mistakes, Thank god this is done.

This solution gave me confidence it could be done, I was all but reserved this game would never be completed for me again after yesterday but damn. Now just the grindier stuff to go.
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By ScorchPSO on 13 Dec 2019 23:41
Got it in a Mini thanks to this solution! Only a minor thing to add from me - the final showdown actually has two requirements to start:

1. 12 (or less) players left
2. Safe area has closed in to the smallest circle

In my experience when the smallest circle has closed in normally there are still 13+ players left, but very rarely will it be in the other order where you get to 12 players left before the safe area has shrunk to the smallest circle. I was in one final showdown that started with only 7 players because a lot of players went out so early.

Like I said, it seems very rare (~10% at a guess), but could lead to confusion for some if their timeout expires when they are using this strategy and only following the number of players left to determine the point for making their move.
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By nuxx au on 15 Dec 2019 05:51
Just unlocked it with the level 2 Ford F-150 Raptor. I bet on an Edinburgh finish point, went outside the circle as soon as 12 players were left, and lo and behold the finish was there. Since I knew full well that Edinburgh had loads of unbreakable objects, I got onto a road early and breezed my way to the end while everyone else ran into the city walls. It took me 27 tries before I got it.

I'll share my tips on how I got through this:
*Since I had the Pacifist achievement already, I started off by challenging someone to a head to head. The level 2 and level 3 cars are far better handling off-road terrain than the starter Mini.
*Once I got a better car, I stopped challenging people so I wouldn't risk getting eliminated early. I started going passive and hiding.
*While hiding, I kept watching my map and adjusting my position accordingly to the player arrows. I stayed off the roads, and most importantly, never stopped moving.
*When the circle reached its smallest size, players gravitated towards the edge, probably to try for a head start or to catch others doing so. This is why its important to keep moving, and use obstacles and terrain to evade anyone chasing you. If you sit still, you'll be a sitting duck when someone challenges you to a head to head.
*For the majority of my games, I kept betting on Edinburgh and positioned my car accordingly. I would say Edinburgh is a good bet if the circle is in the southeast or northwest areas of the map.

Now I usually generally don't play multiplayer and I hate battle royal modes with a passion. If someone like me can get it, you can get it too. Rip up that road and dirt!
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By The Last Flight on 15 Dec 2019 09:52
Took me 6 games after I started actively working on this achievement, I had a match where I was 4th, then 2nd, then got a win after a couple more fail matches. It was actually a lot of fun just going full on stealth mode trying to hide from everyone and survive as long as possible.

https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/elite-mouse/video/83384995

My win was literally bumper to bumper and I was doing my best to block him in with the mini and it actually worked pretty well.

Just adding another tip to the fray: as long as you stay under 10mph you can drive around slowly without popping up on the radar. Every little bit of extra positioning will help you so if there are cars really close you can slowly putt putt away from them.

Also if you are at the edge of the last circle ready to go and someone discovers you and tries to race ... just wait it out, the finish will be on the other side of the circle and a lot of the time you'll hit 12 players and start the final run before your opponent gets to the finish.
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By Elite Mouse on 16 Dec 2019 06:10
Managed to do it twice already. First one with a lvl 7 car and second one was with a lvl 6 car just for fun cause the endzone was the same in a match i did before. Once i saw 12 Players left, i started driving in the same direction the goal was in latest match. The Goal got revealed and it was in the same spot, which i almost already reached by end of the final countdown. So i assume that each endzone has a specific final goal location. Cant 100% confirm it, as i never really payed attention to other endzone goals.
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By GGS DubSt3pz on 18 Dec 2019 11:05
Me too. Done in a Mini. https://www.trueachievements.com/gamescreenshot.aspx?gsid=22...
Even in a far from perfect run. video since ca 1 min 40 playing
It really requires more luck than skill. roll
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By CoveringZebra43 on 31 Dec 2019 15:32
SPΛΙΝΤΞRCΞΛΛ playing Forza Horizon 4

This is how I did it. I was kinda lucky tho. I recommend you not to upgrade to super cars and keep a rally car especially in the winter season. I started with mini, beat a lvl 5 ram rebel and took it, then beat another mini and upgraded to this Subaru rally car and remained hidden till the final showdown. Finally, I managed to beat the Lamborghini in the video as they were unlucky trying to cut through woods.
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By SPΛΙΝΤΞRCΞΛΛ on 09 Jan 2020 09:03
The biggest tips I can give to those reading the comments:
1. Play during off-peak hours
2. Don't be afraid of challenging opponents for upgrades (especially right before the Final Showdown).
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By Kamera on 15 Apr 2020 19:44
it was quite challenging but after about 20 tries i decided to challenge every car. In 1 game I beat a level 7 car with a level 1 car but couldnt win because one guy left the circle with 5 seconds remaining. Overall, challenge every car you can find. The best way to win the races after getting a level 3-4 car is to stay near the edge of the map and keep driving. People will come to you for race. Most races take you away from the edge of the circle and to the center so people coming to challenge you will be facing the wrong direction and in some speed. Once you see them coming near you, drive in their direction and challenge them and 99% of the time you will get a huge boost. I used this to win against a lvl 6(was lvl 3) and a lvl 8 car in the same match. The map above helped a lot. I however left the circle with roughly 4 seconds remaining and that, along with the map, proved to be the deciding factor.
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By Absohail on 24 Jun 2020 08:34
Head-to-heading your way up to around a rank 5-6 offroad vehicle, gauging the direction of the finish line based on the current circle, then getting a running start in that direction at full speed got me this pretty early on in the 50 games played grind. I ended up winning I think 6 Eliminators, mostly due to the latter part of the strategy. Something that's good offroad will beat most rank 10 vehicles, as long as it isn't one of the few final races that are a straight shot on the freeway. Heavily prioritize getting an offroad car, and avoiding non-offroad cars. Once in a rank 5 or higher offroad car, it's best to do laps around the far edge of the circle and avoid head-to-heads, as your odds of winning the final race are more-or-less maxed out - or at least there are extreme diminishing returns on pushing your luck. Three final race attempts with 30% odds of winning beats 1 attempt with 40% odds, by a whole lot. All that's needed beyond that is mediocre map knowledge to not run into a long impassable wall and the like, and decent tree dodging.
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By Blue Radium on 17 Nov 2020 15:16
Agreed it's still 40+ people, I actually got this today. I've only played 7 rounds of this as it's not my favourite. From those 7 attempts, I have 1st) once 2nd) twice. It's really not to hard, I think the key factors are, positioning, map knowledge. I did this in a level 1 mini, so any car is capable of pulling this off. In fact I like the mini as it can navigate through trees much easier than larger cars.
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By brayarg on 12 Dec 2020 15:46
Managed to accomplish this today. I had the quarry circle and I looked at the map and thought, screw it, if I’m gonna stand a chance at getting this I’ll head towards where the map says...and bingo, it was there. I got a huge head start and with about 800m to go a level 7 Porsche and a level 10 racing truck flew past me. I was in a poor level 2 Ford truck. I prayed they’d hit a tree in front of me and that must have been answered because they both hit trees at exactly the same time haha and I hauled ass to the finish line. Achievement Unlocked!
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By Waggie5150 on 18 Jan 2021 14:19
It's not mattering when I try to find matches they're almost always packed with people. It's going to take a lot of luck to get this one.

If there's anybody out there who wants to try boosting this please PM me here or on Xbox. Cheers.
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By ScribblesJaws on 15 Jan 2024 09:41
It's insane how difficult this is, but i got it anyways. I've been non stop playing for around 4 hours straight and failed multiple showdowns. My biggest tip is that get at least a lvl 6 car as i did with the bowler exr or anything fast enough to maintain speed and tempo with the other players as they most likely have lvl 8-10 cars at this point. Maybe if youre good and lucky enough you can do this with the mini which also unlocks the Pacifist achievement. Anyways, biggest tip at the final showdown is to look at the final circle and assume the showdown destination is at the other side of the map.
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By KaiserEnzo666 on 21 Jan 2024 07:54
@Frendin Yeah the Quartz is a great, uh, vehicle lol. It's pretty fast and does very well over any terrain. My tip to anyone going for this is to use the map to your advantage and find out where the circle is gonna be. Say, if the final showdown starts on the beach near Bamburgh castle, chances are that the finish line for the final race is gonna be West, Northwest or Southwest. So what I would do was to get a headstart by making sure I was going at a decent clip as soon as the countdown got down to 4 and exit the area and just start heading West and once the finish line pops up on your mini, adjust your course accordingly. It doesn't always happen that way 100% (more often than not it does) but if it does you could have a massive headstart and I won a couple of games in a level 2 car that way.
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By Vex Twilley on 14 Mar 2020 19:40
I thinkk, now is the best time, to get this achievement. I started play this dlc first in may. There were sessions about 46 - 60 players. This week (17th - 23th may) I played 20 sessions with less players - average 5 players.

How do I get this achievement? I started in session with 6 players and played aggressively from the scratch. Just search for other players and challenge them.

1st challenge - Audi RS6 '03 against me in Mini
2s challenge - Audi RS6 '03 against me in same car
Then I pick up Bowler EXR from winning second challenge. I just kept looking for last player in Porsche 959, but I couldn't find him. Then I hid in the forest near the edge of circle, opened map and tried to guess the location of finish line, before the last race started. When the countdowns showed 2s second, I was already behind the borders and race to finish line. I drove very carefully through the forest, tried to avoid threes. Last part of race was on windfarm, I just kept full throttle.

It took me about 20 attempts to get this achievement. I definitely recommend using SUV/Offroad cars. I didn't have luck with hypercars.
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By Major Rumcajs on 23 May 2021 20:46
try searching early in the morning or figure out at what time in your region there are the least amount of players. i had a lobby of 7 at 5am and won
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By Foerl on 31 Dec 2023 14:58
I've been playing a few hours each day for about 8-10 days trying specifically for this achievement, and still haven't got it. I've been starting at the main festival lately because there's usually people who spawn there for me to immediately challenge so I can start leveling up right away. There's been 3 cases where I almost won the final race, but somehow manage to screw up or get passed at the VERY END every time and make me hate everything in the world. Today was the last straw though, as I won a level 10 Bugatti Veyron from a guy who luckily crashed, so I stayed on the outskirts until the end not trying to lose pre-maturely, then in the end I had the lead, made it literally (not exaggerating) 20-30 feet from the finish, then got completely hung up trying to fly over one of the concrete arch things at the entrance of one of the tunnels on the highway, and got passed by 2 people within a couple seconds. I was shaking, my heart was pounding, and I wanted to twist my controller in half and lunge it threw my TV. It's unhealthy for me to play this mode anymore under constant rage from inevitable failure. It's based so heavily on luck, that practice doesn't make better.
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By johnswang255 on 22 Nov 2020 01:33
Can I just say this is an absolutely superb solution.

I decided to use this method after mucking around for a few games. Hid in the woods with a Mini and came 7th in my first attempt - simply didn't get enough of a head start but was within a few hundred metres of the winner. Got the Pacifist achievement though

Second attempt - eliminated a level 5 car in my Mini after he stuffed up a winning lead in a head to head. Took his Level 5 Ram, waited right near the edge of the last circle and then just took off following the instructions above.

I was well ahead of every single competitor bar one, who was in a Level 4 car that I easily outran to the finish line.

Just for the hell of it, I played again, followed the same method and won in a Level 3 car.

No one moves outside the circle before the final sprint begins. Doing so gives you a huge advantage.

Massive thumbs up to this solution.
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By Chris8875 on 14 Dec 2019 11:50
Got the achievement from using the above methods. I was in a level 3 Lancer coming into the showdown with 12 players, and gunned it outside the boundary as soon as the announcer spoke. Luckily, I was heading in the correct direction to the finish and got a sizable lead from the rest of the pack. When I approached woodlands or rough terrain, I'd slow down and jerk the stick to control my car.

Some tips to point out:
· For those who didn't manage to pop the achievement or are worried about not unlocking it after meeting conditions can restart their consoles before starting the game to ensure it unlocks.
· Manual w/clutch is a great option for stick shift cars and will provide a boost to your car.
· Follow the GPS in sections with indestructible walls and forest areas
· You can upgrade your car another level and still unlock the achievement.
· When tailing an opponent during a race, stay behind them to avoid crashing into fences and driving into their tracks for momentum.
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By FEVER T1ME on 15 Dec 2019 07:56
Finally got it!! Lots of attempts on the pre-patch Eliminator, so had to adapt to the post-patch game. I am not the best at this game by any means so I won a few head to heads and got what I knew was a halfway decent car. It was a level 6 Subaru which I found to be good both on and off-road. Then I hid by being totally still and becoming invisible on the mini map, and checked the full map to see where I thought the final race would be heading. Once I decided/guessed I got close to the road I thought offered the most direct route to that area. Once the final countdown began I got on the road and waited until there were 3 seconds left before gunning it out of the circle. I had chosen the right direction but was in the middle of a forest so to start with I stuck to the roads and prayed I was well ahead(luckily, I was!). As soon as the trees were gone I went in a straight line to the finish as I was up on the tops by the wind farm. The finish point was in the middle of the mudkickers park and I was so nervous about flipping the car or going past the finish line so I took extra care. But I got there first with no one on my mini map! I am so happy now to be back up to 100%!!! Please, no more dlc....... I've had enough now! My heart can't take it!!
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By BRANIAC1972 on 23 Dec 2019 08:05
Bros..... I can't believe I just got this. I definitely think I got lucky because it only took around 10 games but the method I used seemed to work great and I just won my second game using it. I combined using "The Pacifist" strategy and what was used in this guide. All I did was confront everyone until I had a high level car, in my case a level 8 Ferrari FF. After I had a car I felt that could compete at the end I just chilled at the edge of the circle avoiding people. If any arrows showed up on my map I would drive in the opposite direction. The circle ended near the bottom right corner of the map so I thought the final showdown could only end one way, north! So one the countdown just got low enough I just gunned it, giving me a huge lead on everyone else. This was 100% based on luck and some decent driving. The biggest thing I can recommend is listen to your GPS talking to you before any head to head race, but more importantly during the final showdown, as she will tell you if you're going the wrong way and need to turn around. So, if she doesn't say anything your'e probably going the right way, just make sure you're on a road. It's not that bad, just stay persistent and you'll have this bad boy unlocked in no time. Other than that good luck and happy hunting.❤
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By Vokul Vegan on 27 Apr 2020 03:55
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Double Boxing strategy for that extra bit of power
The following advice will only make this achievement a bit easier. It is not a fool proof way of getting this achievement. Sorry, there is no easy way to get this achievement.

I was so close to winning the Eliminator many times, just to see a level 8-10 car pass me on the last stretch, while I was scooting along in a level 3. So I decided to double box this achievement.
Of course, you can also have friends help you with this. The more people help you, the higher your chances of winning this awful achievement. It is not a sure win, but it will give you that extra edge.

Here is what I did (and this worked on the second try):
1. Join a convoy with your dummy.
2. Search for Eliminator at the same time. There are never any full lobbies, so you will definitely end up in the same game.
3. Spawn in close to each other. (Sometimes you can't see each other from the beginning of the round. However, trust me, you are in the same Eliminator game. I think it has to do with the game not showing you every single opponent from the start)
4. Hide your main account. And hope that it will stay safe for a while. Usually, opponents are so scarce early on that no one will find you.
5. Go car drop hunting with your secondary account. Get something nice, like a level 6-7. Car drops become more frequent as the round progresses. If you can't find a drop immediately, keep searching. They also contain better cars later on in the round.
6. When you've acquired a nice car with your dummy, challenge your main account and lose on purpose. Voila, you have a level 6 and above car without much hassle.

If you do this with a level 6 car and above you also unlock:
Forza Horizon 4UnderdogDr MartyThe Underdog achievement in Forza Horizon 4 worth 79 pointsEliminate a car at least 5 levels higher than you in a Head-to-Head race.

7. From this point on it depends again on luck and your driving skill. But mostly luck. >> You will have to survive until the end, guess the correct direction and win against the others. Hopefully they'll hug a few trees on the way and YOU ARE THE ELIMINATOR!

Good luck! You will need it...
Guys guys... I never said this would be easy. If you don't get it the first try, please try again. Lol
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Hopefully this works for me man lol, btw for everyone you need to get to Autumn to be able to play Eliminator
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By xCENAxMOD on 16 May 2020 03:20
Thanks for the solution!
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By Eurydace on 17 Jun 2020 16:23
How do you do this? Do you need 2 consoles?
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By TJ Eliminator on 27 Oct 2020 20:21
Thanks for the quick reply. Yes this achievement is far from ideal - I can get to the final showdown but the other cars are high level and get there first. I will try with some friends if not do you think it’s possible to boost this with a a big session of gamers from TrueAchievements?
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By TJ Eliminator on 28 Oct 2020 09:48
Like I said, the more people help, the better your chances that the final race is filled with your buddies. However, this might be a frustrating boosting session, because nothing is guaranteed. Which means that one person may have to attempt this dozens of times and to get everyone the achievement may take quite some time.
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By Dr Marty on 28 Oct 2020 10:35
So I just won a H2H and got a level 6 car was facing the right way for final showdown and was ahead and somehow they win so fast. I wish the Forza team would do an event so everyone has same car to make it more obtainable.
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By TJ Eliminator on 28 Oct 2020 12:36
This works. It took me 7 tries to get it with this method.
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By cSilent on 27 Dec 2020 23:42
The intruction talk : no change car .. if i winne a friend with car lvl 6 i winne the car and archivement brook ??
If someone want it msg me
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By PiNoKioT on 27 Feb 2021 15:29
Like I said, car drops become more frequent and have better cars in them a bit later into the round. I found good level 5 and 6 cars with my dummy. The round that I actually got the achievement in, I found a level 7 car with my dummy.

But you're completely right: This thing is still luck based, even after you get a good car.
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By Dr Marty on 31 Mar 2021 15:19
Looking to get this terrible achievement it will most likely be the only achievement left that I need In the whole game. I will help anyone who is interested, if we can get a few people together to try get this it would be awesome. Message me on XBL gamertag TB x UNR34L

Cmon guys let's get this done ✌
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By ZaveGaming87 on 02 Oct 2021 19:40
Even with double box, I can't win. Now that most of the players play for win, it's more difficult than when the achievement went live.

So unless the game has fewer players, I'll stop trying. But if someone else want to try, send me a message on Xbox (until mid march because game pass expires)
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By Piyi Piyi on 01 Mar 2024 15:27
This achievement sucks really bad. There always seems to be someone in the match that already has a level 10 car before the ring is even on its 2nd shrink.

None-the-less, I got this on my 15th try in a level 3 car. I was horribly beat by a level 10 car, and slightly beat by a level 7 truck. I had a level 3 Lancer. But even though they beat me, they both took a wrong turn in the city, thinking the finish was on top of a bridge. I followed the GPS and the drive-line, which took me UNDER the bridge, where the actual finish was and I won. EXTREMELY luck based.

I did use my dummy in the very beginning, searched for a car drop for a couple minutes, could only find a level 2 car, challenged my main. My main won, got level 2 car, then i was lucky enough to find a level 1 car with my main, challenged them, got a level 3 upgrade for winning, but never could find a fair challenge again after. All i found was a player in a level 10 car, but they wanted no part of me cuz they didn't want to risk losing before the final showdown. Everyone else seemed to always be busy racing each other, so i couldn't get a challenge with them. Soon after, the player count was below 10 and I was like, screw it, I'll just try to do it in a level 3. It can be done, but it's purely luck at that point. The whole damn thing is luck, really. Good luck to all of you.
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By jasonlc3221 on 31 Mar 2021 14:08
@TJ Eliminator: Yes, you either need 2 consoles or friends who help you. The more people are helping you, the better your chances of winning this horribly luck-based achievement.

Even if you do all the above steps correctly, many things can still go wrong:
1. Your main account could be challenged, while you're using your dummy account to find car drops. Even if a friend is helping you and you're focused solely on your main account, people could still find you/catch up with you and challenge you.
2. Even after you have successfully received a high tier car by challenging your dummy or a friend who is helping you, AND you successfully reached the finale, you STILL need to hope that you get to the finish line first. Everything after reaching the finale is completely luck-based. There will be other high tier cars competing with you. There is a very good chance that you will not get there first. Which means you need to start over again.

Good luck!
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By Dr Marty on 27 Oct 2020 20:52
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Boosting strategy

I already took place in some boosting sessions - most of them aren‘t really boosting sessions and everyone just tries to get this achievement the normal way. There is no need to do boosting sessions when you aren‘t really boosting!

So here are a few advices to improve boosting. Please take care that I will ignore others achievements here, even if they can be combined with „Heads up“.

- First of all: the are no private servers. You will have to get this achievement on the standard servers so you will have to race against other players. Try to avoid them as long as possible.
- There is no way to ensure that everyone joins the same Eliminator session. The best way is to start searching for a Eliminator game at the same time. Communication is the key. Just compare the player count as soon as you found a game!
- The best way is to boost one player per Eliminator game. This player should get a decent car to have better chances winning the final race - without getting a car from a car drop. Getting better cars by winning head to head is fine! So the best way is to „gift“ a decent car to this player doing head to head and let him win. Stay away from players that are not part of your boosting session!
- All boosting players in the session should start near the same location, so they can start head to head with the boosted player quickly. It is recommend to start on one side of the map and avoid other players whenever possible. Right when the game starts everyone should look out for decent car drops (level 6 and above). If the boosted player finds a good drop he can still call another player in the boosting session to pick it up. As soon as one player got a decent car he should start doing head to head with the boosting player and let him win, after the race the car can be selected by the winner. After the race the boosted player should decide if he wants to stay with this car until the final race or get another one by doing more head to head races. This is where all other boosting players can help! Just start another head to head - every time the boosted player wins he is able to improve his car by getting a car at least one level above the current level (up to max level 10)
- Each time the boosted player is doing a head to head he will have to leave the location where his boosting partners are. It is recommend that all other players try to stay near him, because he will most likely have to win more head to heads to improve his car - so try to stay together!
- There will be other players in the game and most of them will try to race you. Try to avoid them as good as possible! You will be save when you are within a head to head with a partner, but do not try to stay in the race for too long or the game will drop players.
- If the boosted player got a decent car for the final race everyone from the boosting session who is still alive, should try to stay alive. Try to hide and keep away from everyone! This way the number of real opponents in the final race can be kept as low as possible. When the final race starts the remaining boosting partners can still help by trying to slow other players down.

Most times you will still get beaten by other players - do not worry and start the next Eliminator game. I recommend to boost another player after every game - no matter if he was successful or not.

Good luck (and sorry for my bad english)
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This achieve is more terrible that when u need just to win in a simple car..... MINI.....there is some player when race against whit lvl10 car and past a mini .....lolol i past a mini.......stupid...one we need only the achive angry let the MINI win
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By zecareca on 30 Nov 2021 19:54
Looking to get this terrible achievement it will most likely be the only achievement left that I need In the whole game. I will help anyone who is interested, if we can get a few people together to try get this it would be awesome. Message me on XBL gamertag TB x UNR34L

Cmon guys let's get this done ✌
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By ZaveGaming87 on 02 Oct 2021 19:37
But this achievement will make you sweat! You not only need to win the final race, which in itself is not very easy, especially if the car is not level 10, but you also need to do this without picking up faster cars that are dropped from a helicopter. But you can still change the car, but only through 1 on 1 fights. Moreover, in order to get a more or less fast car, you will have to win this way several times in a row, and defeat an opponent who has a car of a higher level. Lost - all over again!

Therefore, it seemed to me even easier not to bother with this, but to do everything on the starting machine. By the way, it’s not that slow if you accelerate well and even off-road it drives more or less normally. Here the tactics are the same as for the “Pacifist” achievement, where you need to hold out on this Cooper until the final race, but now we need to win it. Here you can cheat a little and rely on Lady Luck - in this method everything will depend on her! The trick is that the game allows you to be outside the circle for almost a whole minute! This will provide a very good head start, which will even be enough to win in the starting car. Here it is only important to guess at what moment exactly to start, and most importantly, to guess the direction where the game will place the marker for the final race! This is exactly the most difficult thing, since she places it absolutely randomly at any point on the map.

Before the circle is about to narrow as much as possible and the timer is counting down, we hide somewhere outside this circle, open the map and roughly estimate where the finish of the race will be, then we ride somewhere on the border or nearby - it’s better not to get into the circle itself, so that someone doesn’t knock you out of the event, and as soon as 13-14 people remain, we go outside the circle and drive in the direction where our intuition tells us that the race finish will be. It is important here that the remaining 1-2 opponents manage to fly out in about 30 seconds, and we will have another 30 seconds while the countdown timer runs until the final race! The main thing is to start on time, so that you don’t get kicked out for being outside the circle for a long time. Provided that you guessed right, or at least approximately guessed the direction, this handicap is enough to win the race! Yes, it’s not easy, you’ll have to work hard and, most importantly, luck!
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16 Dec 2019 05:45

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I was helped by a map made by a player with the nickname xDAKx from Australia

The large circle means where the last area will be located, the small circle is the finish of the final race.
When I knocked out the achievement, I came across circle 10.
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By AniMetalist on 07 Nov 2021 18:42
The last paragraph no longer makes sense, since after the updates it was no longer possible to stay outside the last coug for more than 5 seconds.
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By moro174 on 22 Dec 2019 22:27
The circles in the hint from AniMetalist are labeled correctly, but these are not all the circles that you may come across. You can determine this if you carefully look at the very edges of the circle. If it is slightly shifted from what is on the tooltip, then the final race will end in a different place. It is also worth noting that you cannot take ONLY those cars that are scattered on the map. That is, you can get cars only by defeating your opponent: you can take his car, and you can also “ IMPROVE ” the car, that is, take a car 1 level higher than yours. So if you meet a level 4 player, for example, a level 1 player, then feel free to win him and improve your car.
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By chukatabra on 03 Dec 2021 07:56
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On the first lap, try to immediately find a level 3-4 opponent, staying closer to the forest, as a rule, the race will go over rough terrain, then you will catch someone 1-2 levels higher than yours, but also closer to the forest. In the last lap there are 2-3 main roads left because the final race begins with them, decide for yourself which one and from the acceleration of a second go around the circle in three seconds, the rest is up to you.
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22 Dec 2019 23:59