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Underdog

Underdog

Eliminate a car at least 5 levels higher than you in a Head-to-Head race.

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How to unlock the Underdog achievement in Forza Horizon 4 - Definitive Guide

Hi guys, maybe this will not be advice, but rather a recommendation. And I apologize in advance for my bad English.

OK..., Before you join to the Eliminator session, first set 4 phrases for a quick chat: Too fast for me / Hold up, mate! / Gimme a chance / I need some influence. After that, join the session and use MINI. Find the opponent on 5 levels higher than you and start the battle, and then start using these phrases throughout the battle. There is a small chance that your opponent will guess what you need the 'Underdog' achievement and allow you to win.

It helped me when I used MINI and my opponent used the URUS. I used a quick chat and eventually my opponent guessed that I needed this achievement and stopped chasing me and let me win.
Today I helped my opponent win, I used BENTLEY CONTINENTAL and my opponent used MINI. I quickly reached the final point, but stopped near it and waited for my opponent to beat me and get his achievement. After that he thanked me for my help via xbox live chat.

I hope that this recommendation will draw attention not only to those who are just going to get this achievement, but also to those who already got it. In this case, there will be more mutual understanding to obtain this achievement.

Use these 4 phrases at the same time, if you use only 1-2 phrases, then in this case, do not wait for help.

And I do not ask players who use fast cars to let your opponents who use MINI win every time, but nevertheless, let them win sometimes, especially if they ask you about it through the quick chat.

BUT PLEASE DO NOT USE THESE QUICK CHAT PHRASES IF YOU ARE ALREADY GOT THE 'UNDERDOG' ACHIEVEMENT. DO NOT USING THIS PHRASES JUST ONLY TO GET A BETTER CAR. IT WOULD BE A BAD AND DISGUSTING ACT ON YOUR PART.
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16 Dec 2019 23:00

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Wonderful response, appreciate it brotha! Ill give it a shot!toast
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By zDrUnKeNMoNkEyz on 17 Dec 2019 02:12
I need this cheevo too, and this was a excellent idea!!! I’ll try that and hope for the best! And I will definitely help if I’m on the higher car!
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By Thay SA 23 on 17 Dec 2019 15:59
Neither up/downvote but this doesn't work, there are way too many ignorant gamers online, at least in my area. Nice advice though.
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By FrostGhilidon on 17 Dec 2019 20:19
Got this yesterday by simply out racing someone, in the event i see someone spamming this ill definitely throw the race for em!
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By zDrUnKeNMoNkEyz on 17 Dec 2019 20:44
Nice idea. Will give it a try.
But Apparently 'hold up, mate' requires I high level in draft. Maybe another one, which can be accessed by anyone would be better
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By magiccigam on 18 Dec 2019 10:35
Just a heads up. If you "win" and the driver quit before you reach the finish line you won't get the achievement or a better car. I won against a lamborghini with my level 4 ranger but the guy quit the game right before I was about to reach the line. I didn`t got the achievement but I was still in game with the same car. Keep in mind that.
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By Victor I3 on 18 Dec 2019 18:35
Ahh man this one is hard/luck based

Only played around 15 eliminators but this and level 10 seem to be the hardest.

Came so close just now. Final 20 cars. My level 2 versus a level 8. Only a 1.8km race. I was in front all the way but could just see him getting closer and closer. And with 150m to go. Whoosh. I lose.
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By Phil the Bear on 22 Dec 2019 11:49
3rd time lucky and this worked or maybe they hit a tree?

I was losing and spamming the messages and then their car just stopped on the mini map and let me run in the final km unmatched.

Even better was that they had a level 9 car and I was able to get in one more win for the Level 10 car achievement as well.

So yes, going forward if I see someone spamming these I’ll give them a win.
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By Phil the Bear on 22 Dec 2019 16:54
This is luck based badly. I've only been fortunate enough to challenge maybe 3 other people who were ranked 5 cars higher than me.. And that's with staying in the mini. I've hit my 50 eliminator games and still waiting to battle someone with a car ranked five levels higher..
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By Unky Ky on 25 Dec 2019 04:10
The last eliminator achievement I don’t have. So luck based.. I faced like 10 opponents with 5+ levels In 100+ games and it’s so difficult. Good luck for anyone trying to get it !
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By Malboa77 on 01 Apr 2020 23:32
I'm not kidding I could get the achievement for the first try with this method. I've waited a few minutes to let the others get better cars, then found a level 6 Quartz, challenged him and sent him these messages once. He immediately started to slow down and just driving around. I appreciate your help!
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By LilProphet2015 on 14 Apr 2020 09:28
As good an idea as any. Thanks for the solution. This dlc pack goes down as the worst I've ever played regarding achievements. Who asked for this, let alone decided on these brain dead achievements.
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By PNibbles on 18 Apr 2020 04:53
It worked for me. thanks for the tip.
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By Faesthuz on 22 May 2020 18:36
I gifted someone this achievement yesterday by challenging them and not winning the race. Who knows if they already had it lol.
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By RB1138 on 22 Jul 2020 16:27
Tried this yesterday and it worked with the 2nd player I tried it with, excellent idea and worked perfectly.
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By D1rtyDan202 on 07 Sep 2020 07:20
Pfff... kind of thing based on luck, no one want to be disqualified, it doesn’t work at all. They just troll me with other sentences.
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By Dobermann X on 15 Sep 2020 18:51
If anyone could help by chance anytime let us know thanks
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By MarkusW86 on 24 Nov 2020 19:45
Dw got v lucky in a mini against a level 7 they shot past the finish line 🤣
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By MarkusW86 on 25 Nov 2020 10:12
Finally got this, beat a level 8 Rangler in a level 2 Audi same as Markus they shot past the finish line and I beat them, lesson is always try against them no matter how high above you the car is levelled you can always get lucky🤣
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By IAmSAMU3Lx on 19 Mar 2021 12:46
9 time in a row.... always got the "See ya!"..... hopefuly I'll get that cheevo someday!
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By Fasst GuizMmMo on 30 Mar 2021 02:22
If anyone still needs this, let me know.
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By Geometric Cube on 13 May 2021 09:02
I NEED HELP WITH THIS PLZ. @Geometric Cube
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By iiBWPx on 31 Oct 2021 23:27
It's simple, press pause, and choose "Quick Chat", then change the phrases for "IN RACE EVENT", choose phrases you need and then don't forget press X to save the settings.
I recorded a video that would be clearer: https://1drv.ms/v/s!AiWTizaahOzdhVltd8L52xCK5D_w
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By LSD51ZEN on 17 Dec 2019 01:16
I like this pay it forward method, maybe it’ll stick. Question though, how do you actually change your phrases? In my 100+ hours of game time I’ve never once used them nor ever wanted to toast
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By zDrUnKeNMoNkEyz on 17 Dec 2019 00:26
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Double Boxing strategy
(This is straight from my "Heads Up" Solution. You should get this achievement when you go for the other one.)

This is how it works:
1. Join a convoy with your dummy.
2. Search for Eliminator at the same time. There are never any full lobbies, so you will definitely end up in the same game.
3. Spawn in close to each other. (Sometimes you can't see each other from the beginning of the round. However, trust me, you are in the same Eliminator game. I think it has to do with the game not showing you every single opponent from the start)
4. Hide your main account. And hope that it will stay safe for a while. Usually, opponents are so scarce early on that no one will find you.
5. Go car drop hunting with your secondary account. Get something nice, like a level 6-7. Car drops become more frequent as the round progresses. If you can't find a drop immediately, keep searching. They also contain better cars later on in the round.
6. When you've acquired a nice car with your dummy, challenge your main account and purposefully lose. Voila, you have a level 6 and above car without much hassle.
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12 May 2020 02:34

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After physically attempting this achievement for the better half of the day, anytime I got in a head-to-head with my lvl 1 coop, I started spamming similar chats. Coincidence or not (maybe he ran into a few trees), I finally got it after beating the lvl 6 SUV.
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By qManballin on 07 Jun 2020 22:20
I've beaten a level 5 several times now, but the description says "5 levels higher", so I believe it actually has to be minimum 6 if you're sticking with the coop.
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By Skridger on 11 Jul 2021 03:57
Good point... I will change it. Thanks.
I got this achievement when I beat a level 7 car from my dummy, so I wasn't sure.
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By Dr Marty on 11 Jul 2021 04:15
Se alguém ainda quiser pegar essa conquista me add que dai a gente faz juntos 25/10.2021
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By rick eduardo on 25 Oct 2021 13:26
I NEED HELP WITH THIS :(
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By iiBWPx on 31 Oct 2021 23:27
Can anyone help me with this?
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By KAXMEK on 08 Jan 2022 15:50
Can anyone help me with this?
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By KAXMEK on 08 Jan 2022 16:04
I also need help for this
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By Daporix on 13 Jan 2022 05:03
Has anyone beaten someone 5 levels higher and not get the achievement? I was in a level 4 and beat a level 9, but didn't get the achievement.
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By R4P1D on 20 Jan 2022 05:05
Oh well, I got the achievement the hardest way possible. I beat a level 10 as a level 1.
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By R4P1D on 22 Jan 2022 05:35
If anyone would like to try and boost this, drop me a message on XBL
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By JonoDeGooseman on 28 Feb 2022 15:43
I need to do this if anyone would like to help
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By SpaceDrache on 12 Apr 2022 14:54
If anybody is interested in doing this, message me on Xbox: JimmyRowe1994
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By JimmyRowe1994 on 08 May 2022 20:54
I’d like to boost as many of these as possible… hit me up!!
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By SILVAF0XX on 07 Jun 2022 18:52
Looking to boost this if anyone is available, Xbox: TheAngryWhopper
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By TheAngryWhopper on 13 Jun 2022 03:20
If we get a bigger convoy is there more chance of successful boosting?
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By SILVAF0XX on 14 Jun 2022 21:29
I Just need it also
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By zZLGTRZz CyTreX on 20 Jul 2022 23:07
Im looking to get this too, its one of my last achievements
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By SpaceDrache on 30 Aug 2022 00:41
Just got this the organic way with 1 (Mini) vs 8 (Nissan GT-R 12) - got lucky with a short route through thick forest near the river. my little mini could weave through gaps the bigger car couldn't. Got a bit greedy and went for the 'win w/o car drop' achievement by taking another race with the Nissan straight after and got caught out in the same way.

Seems like this is best done towards the end of a round when multiple people have Lvl 6+ cars and the routes are shorter because mistakes are magnified and low speed cars don't get as exposed. Also try and stay on highish ground because again slow cars get really exposed going uphill.
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By FoodBouncer on 06 Apr 2023 00:55
got lucky. had a Subaru WRX level 6 stuck on a rock when i challenged him. lol.
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By Nebuley on 24 Aug 2023 13:42
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Here's a solution that uses straight-up racing, though it's a little cheap - I like to call it strategic. I had spent many sessions wasting my time getting challenged by people lower than level 6 until I thought of this idea:

1) Keep the Mini, agility is required here, rather than going for a fast level 2 car like the GT-R, that is another strategy with less potential challengers (7+).

2) Spawn in the quarry / middle of the forest. It tends to be a little less busy from what I've seen. Check the quarry first!

3) Invest your lonely time at the start in finding a 6+ drop. Camp out (*see disclaimers below) within striking distance, but not too close. Being a 6+ car, you hope someone is going to go for that rather than bother with your fine self in the Mini.

4) When you see someone going for the drop, get rolling so that you're moving at the right moment when they re-spawn in the new car, mind the delay of course. Trigger the challenge on the way by. A head start is important, not necessarily everything in this strategy...

5) The rest is up to you managing the Mini to get out of the forest in the most direct, efficient way possible. Avoiding trees is definitely a skill, and the Mini is the best. There is a good chance your opponent will bonk into a tree. A strategic wager of a race.

*I was very lucky to find the quarry drop where I could camp at the South end of the top ring, overlooking the water (and equally lucky someone happened by and took the bait). This happened after 4 deliberate attempts. Very easy to accelerate downhill and it is the only way out (opponent will be facing the wrong direction). That's why I say check the quarry first.

*Camping: idling is maybe more like it. Maybe a little cheap, but is this achievement even reasonable? This solution is still more about your skill in the forest than the head start, but you'll definitely want the head start. The more time you spend in the forest getting good at navigating smart turns, and elevation 'hops'... you will find this skill can win it for you if you keep the Mini up to speed.
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21 Jul 2020 15:09

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Hi Robert,

I do hate these luck based achievements so I’d be interested in teaming up to try and knock these two out.

I wonder if we convoyed together or Partied Up, it would ensure we got into the same Eliminator session.

Don’t worry about not having a mic, send me a Friend Request and we can just msg back and forth on being the hunter & hunted 😉

Steve.
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By Stevo Dunn 1 on 29 Jul 2020 14:56
I’d like to knock this out too if convoying into a session works. Bassline is my username.
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By Bassline on 04 Nov 2020 20:35
Do ypu guys still need help? I'm trying to get those one too!
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By Fasst GuizMmMo on 30 Mar 2021 02:24
I need help with this
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By iiBWPx on 31 Oct 2021 23:29
I did something similar but spawning in the Festival site.
I found a L6 car and I stayed close to it and challenge whoever picks it.
It is likely that the destination will be somewhere in the north east of the Festival site.
Just run towards that point following the GPS. Don't try to take any shortcuts.

If the rival goes straight there is chance they'll get stuck in the forest and if they go too fast they may forget that there is dam/river that even in winter can only we traversed in 1 or 2 places and get stuck while you were following the GPS and end up in the perfect spot to cross the river.

In general if attempting this achievement i'd recommend following the GPS. There are a few tricky destination like the one inside a tunnel: if the rival goes in a straight line they may end up on top on the mountain while you just followed the road and wnet inside the tunnel.
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By SrXimo on 21 Jul 2021 12:30
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