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P1 vs. the Nordschleife

P1 vs. the Nordschleife

Finish the P1 vs. the Nordschleife Rivals event having set a lap time of 7:15 or better.

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How to unlock the P1 vs. the Nordschleife achievement in Forza Motorsport 5 - Definitive Guide

Hi

Just a quick solution for this achievement

Firstly pick Rivals, then Spec Challenge and then it is the second option

You are automatically put in the McClaren P1

This time DOES NOT have to be a clean lap, so if you don`t take a corner cleanly or you think you can do it faster , you can rewind to your hearts content, till your happy with it.

I had a practice lap from a standing start and fell 12 seconds off the pace, then on a flying lap managed to beat it (with a lot of rewinds), and to give you a bit of help you can watch the split times to see how you are progressing compared to you previous best time.

Hope this is of some help to you

EDIT as mentioned in the comments by gsoria , you will have to upgrade the P1 and that the LCE is not eligible for this Rival Event /

A good timesaving tip from Hanrec2, if you reverse at the start as far back as the last bend, then accelerate over the line, the clock restarts when you cross it. This tip would negate the need for a practice lap.

Feel free to follow AvengedAgainst`s time and stay just behind him or obviously in front for the achievement.

Thanks for the tips guys
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09 Jun 2014 21:04

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Just to add to your solution, reverse at the start as far back as the last bend, then accelerate over the line, the clock restarts when you cross it. I managed 7:09 on my first attempt after, and several laps in the transit!
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By Hanrec2 on 09 Jun 2014 22:26
Also, if you'd like I finished right at 7:14.154, follow me for a time to beat without backing up, I did rewind a few times so just beat my rival and the achieve is yours. Happy hunting.
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By AvengedAgainst on 09 Jun 2014 22:32
Just one comment, for those that do not have the P1 stock car, you will need to buy it, then upgrade to R900. I have the P1 LCE and it was not eligible for this Rival Event :(
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By gsoria on 10 Jun 2014 00:06
@Hanrec2, AvengedAgainst and gsoria, thanks for the tips all been added to the solution
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By central perk 08 on 10 Jun 2014 06:59
7:14:988 on my first lap (without reversing at the beginning, standing start), upgraded my car to 898R.
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By NMANOZ on 10 Jun 2014 08:32
Sweet, followed guide and just set one of the guys just within the target time as my rival, ended up with a 7:13.749
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By Shaneanigens on 10 Jun 2014 20:43
Standing start, upgraded car to R900 (used tune "grip") 7:06 first lap no problem. Like other solutions just use rewind and this is an easy one to get.
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By Kookster24 on 11 Jun 2014 00:05
Pretty easy achievement. You probably wouldn't even need an upgrade for this. Standing start upgraded to an r900 I was able to get a sub 6:55 so I had 20 seconds to spare
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By Haugse 0ne on 11 Jun 2014 06:10
I have gotten a 7:06 and 7:03 and no achievement.
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By Dark Lord White on 11 Jun 2014 22:46
You actually have to finish the event for the achievement to pop.
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By dr paulb on 11 Jun 2014 23:46
@Dark Lord White I worked out that if you tune your car it has to be your own or a downloaded tune not a automatic one. Hope this helps.
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By Justicar LeStat on 11 Jun 2014 23:54
I used a downloaded tune however I will try a run with my own tune and see what that does.
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By Dark Lord White on 12 Jun 2014 02:09
Be careful you don't do a clean lap first with a slower time, any lap after that which isn't clean will not be counted.
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By NMANOZ on 12 Jun 2014 03:39
What assists settings is everyone using for this?
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By CrippleThreat8 on 19 Jun 2014 10:08
@CrippleThreat8, I used
Drive Line - Braking Only
Breaking - ABS On
Steering - Normal
TCM & STM - Only TCM on
Gearing - Automatic
Damage/Tyre's/Fuel - Off

I don't think it makes much difference just turn on/off whatever you are comfortable with.

good luck
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By central perk 08 on 19 Jun 2014 16:19
I'd say manual gearing will give you a slight advantage if you can familiarize yourself with it. Taking turns with the correct gear can always save you some time. Only TCM is also advisable considering the high power / rwd combination.
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By SirLugash on 30 Jun 2014 09:17
Great solution! I needed to turn off assisted braking to get under 7:28, and AvengedAgainst's ghost and R4nd0m 0ne's tune were very helpful. My other assists were full easy, except steering also had to be normal.
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By Ironspleen on 17 Jul 2014 02:07
This was the most simple achievement I've had in this game for a while..
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By EDreed2o on 20 Jul 2014 22:23
Just did this in 7:13 but ach didn't pop... Anyone else have this issue?
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By McQueen101 on 31 Jul 2014 08:33
Yes. I did this and the I Could Do That in a Van today and neither popped. What gives, very frustrating.
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By qwxx on 31 Jul 2014 20:53
I think there is a general problem with unlocking achievements at the moment. Several did not pop for me. This is one if them ;)
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By DC Abaddon on 02 Aug 2014 15:22
Same for me too. However, I had two others that didn't unlocked which unlocked today so I'm a little concerned...
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By Falensarano on 02 Aug 2014 21:52
Sorry to hear that the achievement hasn't popped for you (yet) guys, over the last few weeks I`ve had a few achievements not pop, however they have popped a few days down the line while I was playing something else. I think / hope it is just one of those xb1 moments and the achievement will eventually pop.
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By central perk 08 on 03 Aug 2014 08:46
With you there mate. I've done it three times now!
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By Falensarano on 06 Aug 2014 10:35
My achievement is unlocked now. Like evey other one that didn't before. It took about 6 days and I had to do nothing :)

I wish this will happen to you guys too!
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By DC Abaddon on 08 Aug 2014 07:29
I can't do better than a 7:22, no matter what tune or settings I use. I can't seem to do anything other than assisted braking because my car just flies all over the track no matter when I seem to brake. I'm about to give up on this one.
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By CrippleThreat8 on 13 Aug 2014 20:14
Good !! First lap i made 07:03:509 !! I reverse at the start as far back as the last bend and upgrade my car with this creator : Dark Clown to R900 . Very easy achievement !! Good luck !!
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By jeffcall23 on 10 Sep 2014 18:57
Good guide !! Got on my first try with 7.10
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By Sgt Malarkey Br on 19 Feb 2015 12:33
A friend gave me a good tune:

Tuner: ArRy86 - has only one file for the P1 online

07.13:979 with some sloppy driving passages. Worked great
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By BastiXS96 on 14 Mar 2015 20:47
You don't need to upgrade at all. I did with 5 seconds to spare with no upgrades.
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By Shinwasha on 15 May 2015 01:54
For the life me I CANNOT get this; I am getting so frustrated!
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By ABeezy1388 on 19 May 2015 01:50
Completed this twice... A 7:13.xxx and a 7:03.xxx lap time, one with my own tune, the other with a downloaded one. And has t popped yet. I freakin' hate glitched achievements!!!
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By JTerk438 on 18 Sep 2015 00:25
I must be an above average terrible player.
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By Ackis on 05 Mar 2016 22:28
I probably could have gotten this without any upgrades but I bought the car, chose the "Quick Upgrade" option and it got me up to 900 and with a standing start did 6:55 on the first lap.
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By MilitantCurve32 on 30 Jun 2017 05:51
This achievement is brutal (best lap 7:22), and this is coming from someone who completed California Drifter first time. Don't know what shortcuts these guys are pulling off, but a clean lap with an upgraded car won't work.
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By Falcon SVN on 18 Sep 2017 04:40
I don't get how backing up helps.
There is that tight a$$ turn right at the front.
How does it help to be faster there?
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By Darth6unner on 15 Oct 2017 21:55
backing up as far as you want , just gives you some momentum starting the lap instead of a standing start, which will help lower the time a little
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By central perk 08 on 16 Oct 2017 07:09
Omfg every rival I set ends up getting way ahead of me around the 3:40 mark... meaning I'm not doing something right. Anyone have any tips? Getting frustrated.
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By Octobot Super on 29 Oct 2017 02:42
Thought I would add to this, some useful time markers:
You should be approaching the first carousel bit around 4.20
Second carousel bit should be around the 6 minute marker
You should be going under the Audi Banner on the big straight no later than 6.30
My time was 7.12 with these time stamps.
Also my car was the one I bought for the Modern Hypercar series on career, upgrades were bought when I got the car so it was R900, no other tunes.
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By R1DD3R5 on 01 May 2020 18:08
There's a new definition of annoying. It's making the lap at 7:15.029. Thank goodness for Rewind. There might be a new hole in the wall if there wasn't. lol

Thank you R1DD3R5 for the pace times.
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By beansornobeans on 08 Jul 2021 22:10
Great timings from R1DD3R5.

I just completed this with the stock car. Getting to the carousel for 4:20 is easy enough, I’d try and aim for more around 4:10

My struggle was getting to the 2nd carousel for 6mins. Once I hit that, I passed under the Audi sign at 06:26 and finished on 07:09
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By metallicafan459 on 25 Nov 2021 08:44
This is unobtainable now, servers have been closed
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By TrueWickedone on 20 Jul 2022 19:38
The servers are open and this achievement is obtainable currently.
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By HolyRip on 08 Aug 2022 05:15
Get this achievement now as the servers are back up after being down for about 6-7 months so who knows how long they'll be up for.
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By HumidTube35 on 09 Mar 2023 17:01
Got 6’59 so timing is never a challenge. The real challenge is for the game achievement tracker to work properly. Had to do three times to finally unlock this.
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By supkris on 28 Jun 2023 06:24
This one wasn't all that difficult to me, the one with the Transit is harder imo.
I'm certainly not a great driver yet I managed to get 6:56 on my first try.
The best advice I've heard and one that I can only recomment is to set your rival close to the target time to judge your progression on the track based on him (especially considering the length of the track).
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By SirLugash on 16 Jun 2014 20:44
Finally done it in 7:13 .. but achievement didn't popup for me :(
I'm assuming problems with server and hopefully popup later? - has anyone experience this problems recently?
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By Colt45 UK on 12 Nov 2014 00:01
Figured it out. You CANNOT have the braking assist at 0%. You have to up it to at least 5%. Otherwise the game will start braking too much for you on the straightway. It takes some getting used to if you've had it at 0%.

The other thing you have to do is just slam into fucking walls all the god damn time at super high speeds (only the ones that curve with the track). It actually saves time.

I have a feeling that the people above that couldn't get the achievement were using the brake assist.
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By Octobot Super on 29 Oct 2017 03:13
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The easiest way to get this achievement is to do this -

1. Save up the credits and buy the car.
2. Go into upgrades and change the drivetrain to AWD
3. Upgrade the transmission and clutch
4. You'll be over the "R" limit for the race so you need to add the rollcage and put on some heavier than stock wheels to get it back to 900 or less.

With the car being AWD it makes a ridiculous difference. I got 7 min 9 secs on my 2nd lap with TCS and stability control both on and you are better than me I'm sure.
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21 Jul 2014 04:41

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Very easy with this set up, the extra control makes all the difference. Thanks!
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By Tower Bridge on 05 Aug 2014 17:05
thanks for this guide :) very easy with your setup :) 7min 4sec in first lap :)
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By RevoluZZer on 12 Aug 2014 16:21
Great solution Spyder! Don't even need a Tune Setup for this! Did it my first lap as well, using the reverse method before crossing the start line in the begging, got 7:04 timed lap as well! lol wink
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By Mattyl22l on 16 Aug 2014 14:09
Worked on my first try using your solution.
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By DragonianKnight on 24 Aug 2014 23:08
Thanks a lot! Feel free to use my Tune Setup (based on this solution). Search by my Gamertag.
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By Beagle Mex on 30 Aug 2014 05:21
Worked perfectly. Thanks!
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By AndruwJones on 12 Sep 2014 20:30
Worked for me! smile
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By ChockaShocka on 18 Jun 2015 00:56
This really isn't that hard. I went in thinking I'd need some practice, but I got 7.07.699 with the standard car from a standing start.
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By EMOLEE17 on 19 Aug 2016 13:19
I did it on my 1st try (and 1st lap) in 7:13, bouncing everywhere.

I suggest to use a ghost from someone with a time similar to mine, so you will know how good you're going for this achievement.
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By Gottle on 26 Mar 2017 10:17
First time around in 7:11, nice!
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By Loofahdog on 18 Jan 2019 15:23
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I did this on my first attempt I set up new tuning to give me better grip and handling for anyone who wants to use I called it P1 Rivals just search under my gamer tag i did it in 7:14 on first lap without having to reverse

Hope this also helps guys good luck I have also set up one for van achievement called van rivals

I have made some more improvements to the p1 setup it is now more responsive in the corners and slightly faster at acceleration out of the corners hope this is better for everyone
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15 Jun 2014 21:22

Hi,

i used this tune and got a decent time - even with some sloppy driving on some passages.

Tuner: ArRy86
Tune: P / MR

Line : full
braking : abs on
Steering : simulation
T and S : tcs and stm on
Shifting : automatic
Damage : simulation

Got 07.13:979 with the P1 on the Nordschleife
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16 Mar 2015 07:06

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First Try, First Lap, 7:06!
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By MasterPrime007 on 10 May 2016 20:22
Top quality tune you found there! +1 from me. Got a 7.08.233 on my 1st lap. Thanks
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By CasperTC on 04 Jan 2016 19:51
Thumbs UP! Got it on my second lap(7.12)
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By simosaali on 24 May 2015 16:28
Thanx, i got it in the 3rd lap.
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By vfreak79V4V on 31 Jul 2015 17:36
Thanks +1 7:03,724 1st lap
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By QcK Dagger HeaT on 08 Feb 2016 14:34
You the man, second lap @ 7:12, the ghost I was racing was at 6:59 and made a great indicator of time :D
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By ResinousHashish on 27 Dec 2017 02:38
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After purchasing a McLaren P1, go to the upgrade store => drive => gearbox, install a racing gearbox, you get the performance of “P 901”, then go in and change the wheels so that the performance is R900.

After that, in the upgrade store, click and set the following parameters:
-tire pressure
-front-2, 3
-rear-2, 1
(probably doesn't matter, but it helped me)
transmission:
-home-4, 65
-1-ya-4, 09
-2nd-3, 29
-3rd-2, 46
-4-ya-1, 76
-5-ya-1, 23
-6th and 7th unchanged

add differential by 5% (maybe it doesn’t affect either)

Assistance to the driver everywhere to the maximum and during the race we stick to the trajectory, if we deviate a little, feel free to roll back .
I drove with these settings from the first race, before that I suffered for 3 days.
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28 Oct 2017 23:52