Forza Motorsport 7
62 Achievements
1,000
120-150h
PC
Xbox One
Xbox Series
No Substitute
Completed a race with every car from Porsche
15
0.18%
How to unlock the No Substitute achievement in Forza Motorsport 7 - Definitive Guide
Go to race setup in free play, set game type to drag and select any 1/4 mile drag track
Rules:
Max drivatars: 1 (I am not sure if you need drivatars, but i put one on just in case)
Game type: drag
Car division: any
Car restrictions:
Make: Porsche (so you don't need to scroll through all the other cars)
Once you complete a race click restart, go to setup and select car, rince and repeat for all 29 Porsches. IT will take approximately 20-30 min to get the achievement.
Don't worry if you don't own them all, renting them count to.
Please leave a comment on how to improve my solution if you downvote it.
Edit: thanks to Shadow Shifter
There seems to be a bug that changes some settings when you restart the race. I did not experience it, so it might have come for the latest patch.
Shadow Shifter also made a list of all the Porsches needed for this achievement.
2018 911 GT2 RS
2017 #2 Team 919 Hybrid
2017 Panamera Turbo
2016 911 GT3 RS
2016 Cayman GT4
2015 #19 Porsche Team 919 Hybrid
2015 Macan Turbo
2014 918 Spyder
2014 911 Turbo S
2012 911 GT2 RS
2012 911 GT3 RS 4.0
2012 Cayenne Turbo
2011 #45 Flying Lizard 911 GT3 RSR
2008 #7 Penske Racing RS Spyder Evo
2004 911 GT3
2003 Carrera GT
1998 911 GT1 Strassenversion
1995 911 GT2
1993 928 GTS
1989 944 Turbo
1988 #17 Porsche Dunlop 962C
1987 #17 Porsche AG 962C
1987 959
1982 911 Turbo 3.3
1973 Carrera RS
1970 914/6
1960 718 RS 60
1957 356A Speedster
1955 550 Spyder
Rules:
Max drivatars: 1 (I am not sure if you need drivatars, but i put one on just in case)
Game type: drag
Car division: any
Car restrictions:
Make: Porsche (so you don't need to scroll through all the other cars)
Once you complete a race click restart, go to setup and select car, rince and repeat for all 29 Porsches. IT will take approximately 20-30 min to get the achievement.
Don't worry if you don't own them all, renting them count to.
Please leave a comment on how to improve my solution if you downvote it.
Edit: thanks to Shadow Shifter
There seems to be a bug that changes some settings when you restart the race. I did not experience it, so it might have come for the latest patch.
Shadow Shifter also made a list of all the Porsches needed for this achievement.
2018 911 GT2 RS
2017 #2 Team 919 Hybrid
2017 Panamera Turbo
2016 911 GT3 RS
2016 Cayman GT4
2015 #19 Porsche Team 919 Hybrid
2015 Macan Turbo
2014 918 Spyder
2014 911 Turbo S
2012 911 GT2 RS
2012 911 GT3 RS 4.0
2012 Cayenne Turbo
2011 #45 Flying Lizard 911 GT3 RSR
2008 #7 Penske Racing RS Spyder Evo
2004 911 GT3
2003 Carrera GT
1998 911 GT1 Strassenversion
1995 911 GT2
1993 928 GTS
1989 944 Turbo
1988 #17 Porsche Dunlop 962C
1987 #17 Porsche AG 962C
1987 959
1982 911 Turbo 3.3
1973 Carrera RS
1970 914/6
1960 718 RS 60
1957 356A Speedster
1955 550 Spyder
59 Comments
A few things I can confirm as of 8 January 2021 on Xbox Series X in the United States:
1. The link posted by @Fejer is the best thing I've seen in a while.
2. The link matches the list above 1-for-1
3. @Shadow Shifter's comment about "Restart" is correct; it messes up the settings described above. HOWEVER, the "Next Race" option works great.
4. Once you reach the "Post-Race" screen, the car you just ran with will 'turn green' at the XBL Tracker link.
5. A race setup with "Max Drivatars" at "0" works, but "1" is fun so you can race the computer (and win every time).
6. It takes about 45 minutes to complete all the cars if you are nerding out on your checklist and the XBL Tracker updating after every car. :-)
7. The achievement pops on the "Post-Race" screen after about 3 seconds after the last car is raced.
After each car, it is very quick to do the Next Race, Setup, Select Car, Rent Car, Scroll to the next car on your hit list and Select it, Race Info, Start Race.
1. The link posted by @Fejer is the best thing I've seen in a while.
2. The link matches the list above 1-for-1
3. @Shadow Shifter's comment about "Restart" is correct; it messes up the settings described above. HOWEVER, the "Next Race" option works great.
4. Once you reach the "Post-Race" screen, the car you just ran with will 'turn green' at the XBL Tracker link.
5. A race setup with "Max Drivatars" at "0" works, but "1" is fun so you can race the computer (and win every time).
6. It takes about 45 minutes to complete all the cars if you are nerding out on your checklist and the XBL Tracker updating after every car. :-)
7. The achievement pops on the "Post-Race" screen after about 3 seconds after the last car is raced.
After each car, it is very quick to do the Next Race, Setup, Select Car, Rent Car, Scroll to the next car on your hit list and Select it, Race Info, Start Race.
By THOR4205 on 09 Jan 2021 07:42
2016 911 GT3 RS is locked so I assume its bought through the Speciality Dealer?
By Lord Darkfung on 16 Jun 2018 01:11
This can be done between 15 - 20 minutes
single player/ free play/ setup/ race setup/
-rules/ game type/ set to drift
-car restrictions/ set all restrictions to any, except the last 3 and change MAKE to Porsche
select car/ rent/ select the first Porsche
race info/ go to race/ load the track/ setup/ test drive - as soon as you gain control of the car press start and select finish test drive, press ok.
Credit for that car has now been given.
setup/ race setup/ press the A button to accept settings
setup/ select car/ rent car/ select the next Porsche down, rinse and repeat.
If you do not go in and accept the race setup settings each time it won't give you a full list of rentals to choose from, just the ones that are in the same class as your current car.
Well known but worth stating; To help keep track of your progress you can Xbox button/ achievements/ highlight "No Substitute" and press the X button to add to favorites. This now moves the achievement to the top of the achievement list for a fast progress report. You can see the progress added for each car if you bring up your achievements as soon as you finish the test drive.
single player/ free play/ setup/ race setup/
-rules/ game type/ set to drift
-car restrictions/ set all restrictions to any, except the last 3 and change MAKE to Porsche
select car/ rent/ select the first Porsche
race info/ go to race/ load the track/ setup/ test drive - as soon as you gain control of the car press start and select finish test drive, press ok.
Credit for that car has now been given.
setup/ race setup/ press the A button to accept settings
setup/ select car/ rent car/ select the next Porsche down, rinse and repeat.
If you do not go in and accept the race setup settings each time it won't give you a full list of rentals to choose from, just the ones that are in the same class as your current car.
Well known but worth stating; To help keep track of your progress you can Xbox button/ achievements/ highlight "No Substitute" and press the X button to add to favorites. This now moves the achievement to the top of the achievement list for a fast progress report. You can see the progress added for each car if you bring up your achievements as soon as you finish the test drive.
17 Comments
This is the one. Quick and easy. +1 from me.
By TheIcemanCometh on 17 Oct 2017 12:52
This solution rocks! Much quicker than the one before.
By LamboSVinMT 369 on 23 Oct 2017 04:38
If you want to track your progress go https://xbltracker.com enter your gamertag, select Forza 7 and the achievement "No Substitute" to see which one you have and which is missing.
Thanks to Shadow Shifter & sirre0812 for the guide with the car list. I can confirm, choosing drag race and renting each car worked. You only need to select "Restart" and rent a different car after each race.
Alternatively using "Test Drive" also works. Credits to Ethigy.
Thanks to Fed Kaffe for creating the website xbltracker.com.
[EDIT:]
According to Racer 6981 this does not unlock in drag race anymore and needs to be done on a circuit instead. According to Erathia96 drag races still work. Maybe there's a difference between systems (Window and Xbox). Thanks for the info.
Thanks to Shadow Shifter & sirre0812 for the guide with the car list. I can confirm, choosing drag race and renting each car worked. You only need to select "Restart" and rent a different car after each race.
Alternatively using "Test Drive" also works. Credits to Ethigy.
Thanks to Fed Kaffe for creating the website xbltracker.com.
[EDIT:]
According to Racer 6981 this does not unlock in drag race anymore and needs to be done on a circuit instead. According to Erathia96 drag races still work. Maybe there's a difference between systems (Window and Xbox). Thanks for the info.
13 Comments
Thanks @PrimeBigTime! Good thing https://xbltracker.com is back.
I contacted the site owner via email and ask him to change the subrequirent from “2012” to "2012 911 GT3 RS 4.0”. So that entry is also correct now.
I contacted the site owner via email and ask him to change the subrequirent from “2012” to "2012 911 GT3 RS 4.0”. So that entry is also correct now.
By Fejer on 16 Apr 2021 09:48
Thanks for this tracker site. Had no idea it existed and it was of major help. For some reason the 2003 Carrera GT didn't recorded for me, even tough i did all of them one after the other with a checklist. I am PRETTY SURE i didn't skip any by mistake. I would had search a while if not for this tracker site.
On a different note, no idea why solution says 2008 #7 Penske Racing RS Spyder Evo because in my game there is no #7 Penske. Its just Spyder Evo. I taught at first this was a secret car i needed to get somewhere.... but its just the name that is off a bit.
On a different note, no idea why solution says 2008 #7 Penske Racing RS Spyder Evo because in my game there is no #7 Penske. Its just Spyder Evo. I taught at first this was a secret car i needed to get somewhere.... but its just the name that is off a bit.
By Destro WOD on 13 Apr 2023 20:04
Drag and drift modes don't work anymore and won't track this achievement.
The way I did this:
Go to Free Play, select the Homestead speedway circuit (1.50miles) laps to 1, I put Drivatars as 2 just to be safe, car division to any and select the Porsche car you haven't raced yet. You may need to rent the car if you don't own it. Make sure you select a circuit race too.
I was able to use a great website, xbltracker.com to see which Porsche cars I haven't raced yet which saved me time, and will save you time as well. On this website, one of the Porsche cars is listed as "2012" instead of "2012 911 GT3 RS 4.0"
Car list (newest Porsche to oldest)
2018 911 GT2 RS
2017 #2 Team 919 Hybrid
2017 Panamera Turbo
2016 911 GT3 RS
2016 Cayman GT4
2015 #19 Porsche Team 919 Hybrid
2015 Macan Turbo
2014 918 Spyder
2014 911 Turbo S
2012 911 GT2 RS
2012 911 GT3 RS 4.0
2012 Cayenne Turbo
2011 #45 Flying Lizard 911 GT3 RSR
2008 #7 Penske Racing RS Spyder Evo
2004 911 GT3
2003 Carrera GT
1998 911 GT1 Strassenversion
1995 911 GT2
1993 928 GTS
1989 944 Turbo
1988 #17 Porsche Dunlop 962C
1987 #17 Porsche AG 962C
1987 959
1982 911 Turbo 3.3
1973 Carrera RS
1970 914/6
1960 718 RS 60
1957 356A Speedster
1955 550 Spyder
If voted down please explain why in the comments.
The way I did this:
Go to Free Play, select the Homestead speedway circuit (1.50miles) laps to 1, I put Drivatars as 2 just to be safe, car division to any and select the Porsche car you haven't raced yet. You may need to rent the car if you don't own it. Make sure you select a circuit race too.
I was able to use a great website, xbltracker.com to see which Porsche cars I haven't raced yet which saved me time, and will save you time as well. On this website, one of the Porsche cars is listed as "2012" instead of "2012 911 GT3 RS 4.0"
Car list (newest Porsche to oldest)
2018 911 GT2 RS
2017 #2 Team 919 Hybrid
2017 Panamera Turbo
2016 911 GT3 RS
2016 Cayman GT4
2015 #19 Porsche Team 919 Hybrid
2015 Macan Turbo
2014 918 Spyder
2014 911 Turbo S
2012 911 GT2 RS
2012 911 GT3 RS 4.0
2012 Cayenne Turbo
2011 #45 Flying Lizard 911 GT3 RSR
2008 #7 Penske Racing RS Spyder Evo
2004 911 GT3
2003 Carrera GT
1998 911 GT1 Strassenversion
1995 911 GT2
1993 928 GTS
1989 944 Turbo
1988 #17 Porsche Dunlop 962C
1987 #17 Porsche AG 962C
1987 959
1982 911 Turbo 3.3
1973 Carrera RS
1970 914/6
1960 718 RS 60
1957 356A Speedster
1955 550 Spyder
If voted down please explain why in the comments.
This can be done pretty quickly using Test Drive. You do not need to own any of the cars, they can all be rented.
Start a Free Play and navigate to Race Setup. Change these settings:
Game Type: Custom (should be by default)
Car Division: Any
RB over to the Car Restrictions section. Scroll down and change the Make to Porsche.
Accept and load up the race. Do not start the race once it has loaded, instead navigate to Setup, select your car and select Test Drive. Cross the starting line, then pause and choose to Finish Test Drive. This counts as completing a race. Repeat with the required Porsche models.
Start a Free Play and navigate to Race Setup. Change these settings:
Game Type: Custom (should be by default)
Car Division: Any
RB over to the Car Restrictions section. Scroll down and change the Make to Porsche.
Accept and load up the race. Do not start the race once it has loaded, instead navigate to Setup, select your car and select Test Drive. Cross the starting line, then pause and choose to Finish Test Drive. This counts as completing a race. Repeat with the required Porsche models.
The quickest option for this would be to go into ‘Free Play’ and select the game type to Drag and use any ¼ mile drag track.
Your race setup should look like this:
Max Drivatars: 1
Game Type: Drag
Car Division: Any
Car Restrictions: Porsche
Once you finish a race just select restart. Go into race setup again and select car. Then just go down the line for all 29 Porsches in the game. If you don’t own them that’s fine as renting them will count for this achievement.
A list of all Porches in the game for reference.
2018 911 GT2 RS
2017 #2 Team 919 Hybrid
2017 Panamera Turbo
2016 911 GT3 RS
2106 Cayman GT4
2015 #19 Porsche Team 919 Hybrid
2015 Macan Turbo
2014 918 Spyder
2014 911 Turbo S
2012 911 GT2 RS
2012 911 GT3 RS 4.0
2012 Cayenne Turbo
2011 #45 Flying Lizard 911 GT3 RSR
2008 #7 Penske Racing RS Spyder Evo
2004 911 GT3
2003 Carrera GT
1998 911 GT1 Strassenversion
1995 911 GT2
1993 928 GTS
1989 944 Turbo
1988 #17 Porsche Dunlop 962C
1987 #17 Porsche AG 962C
1987 959
1982 911 Turbo 3.3
1973 Carrera RS
1970 914/6
1960 718 RS 60
1957 356A Speedster
1955 550 Spyder
Your race setup should look like this:
Max Drivatars: 1
Game Type: Drag
Car Division: Any
Car Restrictions: Porsche
Once you finish a race just select restart. Go into race setup again and select car. Then just go down the line for all 29 Porsches in the game. If you don’t own them that’s fine as renting them will count for this achievement.
A list of all Porches in the game for reference.
2018 911 GT2 RS
2017 #2 Team 919 Hybrid
2017 Panamera Turbo
2016 911 GT3 RS
2106 Cayman GT4
2015 #19 Porsche Team 919 Hybrid
2015 Macan Turbo
2014 918 Spyder
2014 911 Turbo S
2012 911 GT2 RS
2012 911 GT3 RS 4.0
2012 Cayenne Turbo
2011 #45 Flying Lizard 911 GT3 RSR
2008 #7 Penske Racing RS Spyder Evo
2004 911 GT3
2003 Carrera GT
1998 911 GT1 Strassenversion
1995 911 GT2
1993 928 GTS
1989 944 Turbo
1988 #17 Porsche Dunlop 962C
1987 #17 Porsche AG 962C
1987 959
1982 911 Turbo 3.3
1973 Carrera RS
1970 914/6
1960 718 RS 60
1957 356A Speedster
1955 550 Spyder
This guide was translated automatically.
At the first opportunity, choose Porsche; we also always use this brand in open championships.
We use the remaining cars in a free game. With the following settings:
Race type: drift
In advanced settings, number of driver groups: 2
In advanced settings, completion conditions: all players in the group
With these settings, you will win as soon as 5 seconds have passed.
After winning, click start again and select another car. If we don’t have all the models, we rent them. Cars that you do not have are marked with a gray rectangle.
We use the remaining cars in a free game. With the following settings:
Race type: drift
In advanced settings, number of driver groups: 2
In advanced settings, completion conditions: all players in the group
With these settings, you will win as soon as 5 seconds have passed.
After winning, click start again and select another car. If we don’t have all the models, we rent them. Cars that you do not have are marked with a gray rectangle.