Full House Poker
38 Achievements
500
15-20h
Xbox 360
The Final Table
Won the All-Pro Tournament
20
How to unlock the The Final Table achievement in Full House Poker - Definitive Guide
I think beating the final table is much more about the cards/hands the AI are playing rather than what cards you have and how you play them (unfortunately). You need to avoid actually playing intelligent poker here because the AI will not be. Work the blinds and wait for the right chance.
I recommend staying out of the way of the first 40ish hands or so until at least 2-3 people have been eliminated. You should concentrate on retaining as much of your money as you can throughout the tourney.
The AI seriously overvalues aces and will often continue betting their ace-rag starting hand no matter what carnage comes on the flop, turn, and river. I prefer to concentrate on attacking them pre-flop and exploiting their obvious tendencies since it is virtually impossible to put them on hands after the flop. They will bet anything very strongly, so you often have to move aside out of respect for their hand and they turn over rags (or a ragged ace that has no business still being in that particular hand). RRRrrr!!! Save your money, use the blinds to help you, and exploit as follows:
1.) MOST IMPORTANT- Any hand that is raised to you before your first turn, FOLD. That player has an ace, a pair, or something it thinks is good and will battle you relentlessly for the duration of that hand. Think risk/reward: wait for a better chance. You'd need at least a top 5 overall hand, and even then you can be pretty sure you'll end up showing it down. Not worth it...
2.) Never check when in the big blind (nobody raised to you). I like to put in 2 raises worth (Y, then 1 RB) when all the AIs call the blinds. They fold up shockingly often, and this will be one of the few income streams you'll have in the first half of the tourney.
3.) If you're raising someone off their big blind, only raise one notch (Y only, no RB). They will often fold, but if they call, they would have called for more money anyway, so that's the most thrifty move. If they start calling often, bump it once or twice more often, then get back to this level of raising.
4.) Look for whipsaw opportunities. Annoyingly, the AI doesn't often make large outright bets; you have to raise then re-raise, then re-raise, etc etc. Chances are sometime when you're trying to steal the blind, you'll get called and the flop will hit a two pair for you or something nice. In that case, check, the AI will ALWAYS bet it, and then re-raise back. Answer all re-raises with one of your own, and you should land a huge pot.
5.) In case you find yourself in a regular betting pot with the AI, note the amounts they choose to bet (proportional to the pot) and whether their bets are ascending or descending. The more the AI likes their hand, the more money they will bet, regardless of situation. For example, if they've got an amazing hand, they will have no problem completely overbuying the pot. The reverse is also true though. Often you will see a little 200 squeaker bet which you may consider challenging. Re-raise it one, and if the AI bets the same 200, move in for the kill. If the AI raises their re-raise to 400 or higher, FOLD.
Be aware that you can control the time (and thereby the blind amounts) by sitting AFK for a little while and letting the clock run. I wouldn't recommend it in the beginning of the game since you want players eliminated before the blinds get too big. However, when you get down to 1:1, it may be in your best interest to have the blind amounts come up so you can put more pressure on the AI's blinds.
Above all else, let the AI dig their own grave. You will go bankrupt if you try to run the table and push out others. Stay out of the limelight, work the system, and a good whipsaw pot or two will more than do the job.
I recommend staying out of the way of the first 40ish hands or so until at least 2-3 people have been eliminated. You should concentrate on retaining as much of your money as you can throughout the tourney.
The AI seriously overvalues aces and will often continue betting their ace-rag starting hand no matter what carnage comes on the flop, turn, and river. I prefer to concentrate on attacking them pre-flop and exploiting their obvious tendencies since it is virtually impossible to put them on hands after the flop. They will bet anything very strongly, so you often have to move aside out of respect for their hand and they turn over rags (or a ragged ace that has no business still being in that particular hand). RRRrrr!!! Save your money, use the blinds to help you, and exploit as follows:
1.) MOST IMPORTANT- Any hand that is raised to you before your first turn, FOLD. That player has an ace, a pair, or something it thinks is good and will battle you relentlessly for the duration of that hand. Think risk/reward: wait for a better chance. You'd need at least a top 5 overall hand, and even then you can be pretty sure you'll end up showing it down. Not worth it...
2.) Never check when in the big blind (nobody raised to you). I like to put in 2 raises worth (Y, then 1 RB) when all the AIs call the blinds. They fold up shockingly often, and this will be one of the few income streams you'll have in the first half of the tourney.
3.) If you're raising someone off their big blind, only raise one notch (Y only, no RB). They will often fold, but if they call, they would have called for more money anyway, so that's the most thrifty move. If they start calling often, bump it once or twice more often, then get back to this level of raising.
4.) Look for whipsaw opportunities. Annoyingly, the AI doesn't often make large outright bets; you have to raise then re-raise, then re-raise, etc etc. Chances are sometime when you're trying to steal the blind, you'll get called and the flop will hit a two pair for you or something nice. In that case, check, the AI will ALWAYS bet it, and then re-raise back. Answer all re-raises with one of your own, and you should land a huge pot.
5.) In case you find yourself in a regular betting pot with the AI, note the amounts they choose to bet (proportional to the pot) and whether their bets are ascending or descending. The more the AI likes their hand, the more money they will bet, regardless of situation. For example, if they've got an amazing hand, they will have no problem completely overbuying the pot. The reverse is also true though. Often you will see a little 200 squeaker bet which you may consider challenging. Re-raise it one, and if the AI bets the same 200, move in for the kill. If the AI raises their re-raise to 400 or higher, FOLD.
Be aware that you can control the time (and thereby the blind amounts) by sitting AFK for a little while and letting the clock run. I wouldn't recommend it in the beginning of the game since you want players eliminated before the blinds get too big. However, when you get down to 1:1, it may be in your best interest to have the blind amounts come up so you can put more pressure on the AI's blinds.
Above all else, let the AI dig their own grave. You will go bankrupt if you try to run the table and push out others. Stay out of the limelight, work the system, and a good whipsaw pot or two will more than do the job.
10 Comments
Good guide. I thought they loved the semi-bluff, but I think it just looks that way because they'll bet with anything. You kind of just have to bet with confidence when you have a real hand. You're right that the amounts the bet are a dead giveaway.
Also, if there's a four-flush or four-straight on the river and they check, you can steal. That's a pretty obvious move, but good to have in your back pocket.
Also, if there's a four-flush or four-straight on the river and they check, you can steal. That's a pretty obvious move, but good to have in your back pocket.
By FiscalCliff2013 on 26 Mar 2011 19:34
what level do you unlock the 100,00 cash advance? i'm level 33 i think and i can only get 50K
By GammyGreenGiant on 27 Apr 2011 23:00
This solution was suggested by Schwal of GameFAQs, and it worked for me. It does require a little patience though.
If you are dealt:
Any pair 5 or better,
An Ace and 3 or above suited, Ace and 10 or above un-suited.
A King and 8 or above suited, King and 10 or above un-suited.
A Queen and 9 or above Suited, Queen and Jack or above un-suited.
Jack and 9 or above suited.
10 and 9 or above suited.
If you get one of those hands, go all in immediatly. You'll play someone about 1/2 the time, and usualy win. You can alter your strategy when you get down to just one opponent if you feel like it.
I won on my third try like Schwal. I came in second twice (had to leave, and got impatient the second time) and then finally won the tournament.
EDIT: Just to clarify, if you do not get the above hands fold immediately. Do not try to outsmart the AI as eventually you will get yourself burned in the process.
If you are dealt:
Any pair 5 or better,
An Ace and 3 or above suited, Ace and 10 or above un-suited.
A King and 8 or above suited, King and 10 or above un-suited.
A Queen and 9 or above Suited, Queen and Jack or above un-suited.
Jack and 9 or above suited.
10 and 9 or above suited.
If you get one of those hands, go all in immediatly. You'll play someone about 1/2 the time, and usualy win. You can alter your strategy when you get down to just one opponent if you feel like it.
I won on my third try like Schwal. I came in second twice (had to leave, and got impatient the second time) and then finally won the tournament.
EDIT: Just to clarify, if you do not get the above hands fold immediately. Do not try to outsmart the AI as eventually you will get yourself burned in the process.
4 Comments
This helped me. Thanks. I haven't followed your plan exactly but it worked.
By RedCoIa on 10 May 2013 21:53
Well after two very quick exits and a very long winded loss ..... I can say I'm just out a $h!t ton of money ....
By jaysondomino on 03 Jan 2014 20:23
The Final "All-Pro" Table puts you in a single-table tournament with all nine of the Pros. You need to beat them all in the earlier "Pro Takedown" rounds to unlock this event. Hopefully you've learned how to play to their individual styles, as you will need to be versatile to win this 100,000 buy-in tournament. If you aren't sufficiently bankrolled, you can take a 100,000 chip "cash advance" once you are a high enough rank (though this will prevent you earning XP for a certain number of hands). Good luck!
This will net you the "rollin" achievement as well because the winning prize is $500,000.
This is time-consuming so make sure you have left yourself plenty of time. Most pro's will go out to other players but try not to sit on your chips waiting for them to go until your left with one or two because you will end up with the small stack and it's hard to recover when the players around you have over 3x your chip stack.
Hopefully that is all you need. Don't be reckless, wait for the good hands. I have posted below the probability for hands which helped me win.
Poker Hand Probabilities: Preflop
Probability of being dealt a pocket pair: 5.9%
Probability of being dealt suited cards: 23.5%
Probability of being dealt AA(pocket rockets): .45%
Probability of being dealt connecting cards 15.7%
Poker Hand Probabilities: The Flop
Probability of hitting a three of a kind or quads at the flop when you hold a pocket pair 11.8%
Probability you will make a pair at the flop, holding two unpaired cards in the hole 32.4%
Probability of flopping a flush, holding two suited cards .84%
Probability of flopping a flush draw, holding two suited cards 11%
Poker Hand Probabilities: The Turn and The River
Probability of hitting a flush draw (both turn/river, needing one card to hit) 35%
Probability of hitting an open-ended straight draw (i.e. 4 straight cards, need one on either end to hit on turn or river) 31.5%
Probability of hitting a gutshot draw (inside straight draw) on turn or river 16.5%
Probability of hitting a backdoor flush, holding two suited cards 4.2%
Probability of hitting a flush on the turn 19.1%
Probability of hitting a flush on the river 19.6%
Probability of hitting a straight on the turn 17%
Probability of hitting a straight on the river 17.4%
Poker Probabilities: Hand against Hand
Probability of a lower pocket pair beating a higher pocket pair 18.5%
Probability of non-suited overcards beating a lower pocket pair 45%
Probability of suited overcards beating a lower pocket pair 47.3%
Probability of a dominated hand winning (e.g. AJ vs. AK) 24%
Probability of a severely dominated hand winning that is suited (e.g. AA vs. ATs) 12.7%
Probability of an unsuited severely dominated hand winning (e.g. AA vs. ATo) 7.2%
Probability of two unsuited undercards beating two unsuited overcards (e.g. JT vs. AK) 36.7%
Probability of two suited undercards beating two unsuited overcards (e.g. JTs vs. AK) 41%
Probability of two, unsuited, non-connecting undercards beating two suited, connecting overcards (e.g. T4o vs. AKs) 32.4%
This will net you the "rollin" achievement as well because the winning prize is $500,000.
This is time-consuming so make sure you have left yourself plenty of time. Most pro's will go out to other players but try not to sit on your chips waiting for them to go until your left with one or two because you will end up with the small stack and it's hard to recover when the players around you have over 3x your chip stack.
Hopefully that is all you need. Don't be reckless, wait for the good hands. I have posted below the probability for hands which helped me win.
Poker Hand Probabilities: Preflop
Probability of being dealt a pocket pair: 5.9%
Probability of being dealt suited cards: 23.5%
Probability of being dealt AA(pocket rockets): .45%
Probability of being dealt connecting cards 15.7%
Poker Hand Probabilities: The Flop
Probability of hitting a three of a kind or quads at the flop when you hold a pocket pair 11.8%
Probability you will make a pair at the flop, holding two unpaired cards in the hole 32.4%
Probability of flopping a flush, holding two suited cards .84%
Probability of flopping a flush draw, holding two suited cards 11%
Poker Hand Probabilities: The Turn and The River
Probability of hitting a flush draw (both turn/river, needing one card to hit) 35%
Probability of hitting an open-ended straight draw (i.e. 4 straight cards, need one on either end to hit on turn or river) 31.5%
Probability of hitting a gutshot draw (inside straight draw) on turn or river 16.5%
Probability of hitting a backdoor flush, holding two suited cards 4.2%
Probability of hitting a flush on the turn 19.1%
Probability of hitting a flush on the river 19.6%
Probability of hitting a straight on the turn 17%
Probability of hitting a straight on the river 17.4%
Poker Probabilities: Hand against Hand
Probability of a lower pocket pair beating a higher pocket pair 18.5%
Probability of non-suited overcards beating a lower pocket pair 45%
Probability of suited overcards beating a lower pocket pair 47.3%
Probability of a dominated hand winning (e.g. AJ vs. AK) 24%
Probability of a severely dominated hand winning that is suited (e.g. AA vs. ATs) 12.7%
Probability of an unsuited severely dominated hand winning (e.g. AA vs. ATo) 7.2%
Probability of two unsuited undercards beating two unsuited overcards (e.g. JT vs. AK) 36.7%
Probability of two suited undercards beating two unsuited overcards (e.g. JTs vs. AK) 41%
Probability of two, unsuited, non-connecting undercards beating two suited, connecting overcards (e.g. T4o vs. AKs) 32.4%
1 Comment
I'm scratching my head thinking if you used this info to win the achievement. I'm guessing not. This is against stupid bots, not Phil Hellmuth, Phil Ivey, Daniel the Kid, Brunson, etc.
By Tw1std Nitem4re on 01 Mar 2012 23:30
Everyone above has some great solutions and lots of important info with regards to hand odds and proper betting in the All Pro Tournament. The only real different advise/tip I would say is to try and actually take out some of the bots early on if you can. As the table shrinks and other bots gain more money off each other, you want to make sure you go into the later rounds of blinds/antes with as much money as possible. Doing this will make your betting strategies noted above much easier to manage and prevent you from being pushed around when it comes down to 2-4 remaining bots. Don't get frustrated, patience is certainly key but you'll grind them down eventually and get the 'cheevo!
The All-Pro Tournament will unlock after you have beat all of the Pros in Pro Takedown. This tournament will have you playing all of the Pros at once. Here is a list of Pros and their play style as well:
- Sonny Skye (Loose-Passive)
- Rachel Raise (Loose-Aggressive)
- Larry Louche (Bully)
- Mel Mathews (Tight-Passive)
- Rai Singh (Tight-Aggressive)
- Lily Sun (Rock)
- Johnny Spade (Iceman)
- Marshall Star (Calculator)
- Daisy Deuce (Shark)
If you are new to poker and do not know what the styles means, refer to this guide.
The All-Pro Tournament will unlock after you have beat all of the Pros in Pro Takedown. This tournament will have you playing all of the Pros at once. You will get the Rollin' achievement as well. Here is a list of Pros and their play style:
- Sonny Skye (Loose-Passive)
- Rachel Raise (Loose-Aggressive)
- Larry Louche (Bully)
- Mel Mathews (Tight-Passive)
- Rai Singh (Tight-Aggressive)
- Lily Sun (Rock)
- Johnny Spade (Iceman)
- Marshall Star (Calculator)
- Daisy Deuce (Shark)