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Standing Here, Beside Myself

Standing Here, Beside Myself

Won 3 matches of Wingman (not Custom)

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How to unlock the Standing Here, Beside Myself achievement in Gears of War 2 - Definitive Guide

With the latest Title Update (Update 6), a new Xbox Live game type has been released. It now has an option for "Social Xbox Live". Playing this still counts as a public session but will implement bots in place if human players (providing none are found during matchmaking).

If you experience lag or don't have a great internet connection this is a useful game mode to get any public achievements.

Simply go to Multiplayer and select Social Xbox Live. Choose Wingman as your game type and start the matchmaking process. With any luck you won't find other players and all other positions will be filled with bots (since these are generally easier then human players). You will also get host so no lag if this happens.

Score 15 points to win the game and repeat 3 times.

NOTE: If playing with other players you will get the full experience that you would in Ranked. If playing only against bots you will only get a certain amount for winning. You ALSO REQUIRE ALL MAP PACKS to play this mode.
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27 May 2010 22:43

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I can confirm that Social wins do count. I was able to get the achievement in less than an hour using this method. A few things I would add: Jump around a lot until you get in a game where you're ahead. If you get in a match with a killer, the teams are reshuffled at the end of the match so if you hang around you'll have a one if five chance of being teamed up with them in the next game. If they get placed with a bot, keep jumping in an attempt to get paired with them. If you get in a match with bots, take your time and don't rush in. After the initial skirmishes they'll usually camp and can be easily picked off.
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By Avata on 31 May 2010 00:03
I have been trying to get a game going on social and can't find live players but the game keeps searching... It doesn't add bots, I waited over 10 mins and it was still searching... sheesh!
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By Altergigo on 23 Jul 2010 05:47
No kidding! It done bots for me, played it just last week. Seems odd it didn't put bots in.100% sure you had Social selected and not ranked. There hasn't been any updates since so shouldn't be a problem. I'm assuming also you've played online GOW before?
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By DJDVSnz on 23 Jul 2010 06:19
Ya I 2nd guessed myself as well on the live setting, sure enough, it was on social, tried it twice and it just stays on the (searching for players...) and does nothing. It was searching for over 30 mins the 2nd time... and yes I do play online, even with the update though it is still very frustrating, I still can't find enough ppl dedicated to get to wave 50 on horde... Hence I don't have the multiple wave "50" achievements...
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By Altergigo on 23 Jul 2010 21:29
Can confirm this works, social last night, all bots, got it in 4 games (and I sucklaugh)
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By UlteriorDesert on 01 Nov 2010 13:58
I suck worse then.. my AI buddy runs off to get himself killed, then I usually get teamed.. or double teamed because the AI is bias to human players
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By Mazrael on 01 Nov 2010 15:51
Haha stick with your AI buddy and you can both get owned together lol :P. Just keep trying, bots are a nightmare on this mode but at least no lag and bots are worse then most online players so its a bit easier in this mode.
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By DJDVSnz on 02 Nov 2010 21:25
It seems that if you do this with a friend and switch hosts every game you are almost certain to get a bot match every time.... not that it'll make it any easier to win.
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By io roboto on 13 Feb 2011 05:50
Man the online achievements are bloody hard for now people mod like crazy.
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By Brutaka5 on 23 Apr 2011 20:33
i've been waiting on the "searching for players" screen for almost a half hour!!! this is ridiculous! can anymore confirm that bots eventual;y do get tossed in!?!?!?!
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By lTHEDARKKNIGHTl on 28 Apr 2011 07:59
i've been waiting on the "searching for players" screen for almost a half hour!!! this is ridiculous! can anymore confirm that bots eventual;y do get tossed in!?!?!?!
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By lTHEDARKKNIGHTl on 28 Apr 2011 08:00
I'll have to try this.. I usually feel like playing MP at night, after 12am & when most local players have logged off - which puts me in matches hosted from the US.. which means a ton of lag (had the game since day one too! I have none of the win X matches in X mode [that I remember] ... )
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By Mazrael on 03 May 2011 13:31
Bots should get tossed in after a few minutes DarkKnight. Make sure you do have it on Social and not Ranked. And good luck Mazrael :D
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By DJDVSnz on 09 May 2011 00:08
I still need 2 more wins. Can anyone thats good please help me out
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By GraPPLe iZ Pro on 20 Jul 2011 00:42
Wingman was a pain....thank god Social Live counts for the achievement.
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By Solario32 on 18 Sep 2011 01:17
The Social xbox live will not stop searching, I never get bots. Anyone help me with this problem? I DO have it on Social by the way. Even went and got my friends xBox and hooked it up to a second TV, but even then with BOTH xBoxes searching they could not even find one another and just stayed stuck in search, even let it try for 30 minutes. This sucks.
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By Glenn 46 on 23 Jan 2012 01:27
@ Glenn 46 : did you have a guest account signed in ? It's known not to work when you do
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By DaShAg on 13 Feb 2012 13:26
Done this with a friend over xbox live today, damn the bots gave us a hell of a fight. I would recommend doing it by yourself if you want to do it quickly. Although we did have a blast.
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By Arj295 on 21 Apr 2012 09:43
how do you get the bots???
if had it on social xbox live with 2 controllers signed no guest
had it searching for 7 hours!!! and no bots not even a other player...

how the h... do you get this also tryed the "Beat the Meatflag" "It's Good to be the King" "ou Go Ahead, I'll Be Fine" and the Annex: Now With Execution Rules and Standing Here, Beside Myself.

had the xbox on for 5 days and every day searching for 7 hours and no bots it will not stop searching.

how do you get the bots???

please help i only need 12 achevements and want to get it on 100% compleet
can also send me a mail over xbox roxanaversteeg is my xbox name.
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By roxanaversteeg on 20 Jun 2012 09:16
The host cannot have a second controller signed in, even as a guest.
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By Trombonafide on 22 Sep 2012 19:24
I was having the same problem as a lot of folks here were it would not start a match with bots, you need to check your nat setting if they are strickt or moderate it will just keep searching for games, if your nat is open it takes just a few seconds and it all bots all the time.
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By DARK NEWFI on 20 Dec 2012 13:57
it is NAT settings, i couldn't get matched up with bots at all, opened my NAT, and in 5 seconds i now match with bots.
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By LostMantella9 on 29 Dec 2012 06:26
How do you change NAT settings?
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By Fresno Dude on 20 Feb 2013 17:30
i could match with bots at first and now i cant... like wtf is up with this game... im trying this on xbone is this the problem? nat type is def open and still stuck at searching in this stupid social matchmaking ... should i try on the 360 ?
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By R3f1CuL on 14 Mar 2016 13:58
Anyone wanna boost? Message me
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By Coffee 282 on 02 Feb 2019 21:47
Not matching with anyone or any bots using social as of 03/03/20
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By VauIt Boy 111 on 03 Mar 2020 12:28
Not pairing me with bots, been searching for over 10 min
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By xLastShadow on 01 May 2020 23:19
nvm, dashboarded couple of times, and it worked
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By xLastShadow on 02 May 2020 03:20
I had to make the xbone static and put the static ip in the dmz on my router to get this to work. I was getting a warning strict nat when I started the multiplayer.
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By xix bam360 xix on 10 May 2020 05:20
Still works social Playlist. Jan 3/23 just unlocked it not too long ago
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By DiplexHydra on 03 Jan 2023 19:31
Diplex how how did you get into a match?? I was able to get into only one and since then I can’t find any bot matches
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By Tarheel Parker on 19 Jan 2023 02:26
I just don't understand it. All went well while boosting with bots and a friend and suddenly one guy joined the match. Since that i am not able to find any bot matches again.
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By Dingir84 on 05 Dec 2023 11:25
Can't find not a single match with bots or players
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By janol33 on 16 Jan 2024 20:56
Had the same experience as others. Was able to play with bots without issue until some dude joined the game and cannot get matches anymore.
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By AlDiesTwice on 17 Jun 2024 21:43
I unlocked this todfay 17th April 2020, using Social Xbox LIVE/Wingman - it puts you into Bot matches instantly.

Not easy to unlock, but stay on certain Maps where you already know power weapon spawns, and quit out the ones you do not.
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By DrShoe1976 on 17 Apr 2020 14:22
Just keep trying ^
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By Ox1893 on 01 Feb 2023 07:55
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Doing this legitimately can be easier than you think.

I am only at a level 7 online, and I was paired up with players who were level 35, 52, 46 etc. - much more than me.

This technique is how all novice players should play multiplayer online in these gametypes - it allows for you to see how the better players play, and also allows you to rack up some points with downs, revives, and kills. Your partner should be getting the majority of the kills using this method, but you will definitely get some as well.

And so what I did was I became a shadow of my partner, the better player, and covered him as he took the initial chances. If he went for the flamethrower and then was rushed by an opponent, I would shoot that guy with the shotgun to buy my partner time. If he was involved in a close fight, I would flank and shoot or melee the other guy with the shotgun. And if my partner was downed, I am right there to finish the opponent off and revive him.
If a two-man team came at us, I would try to kill one of them and he would try to kill the other, and if one of us kills our guy, or downs our guy, we can then go help our partner out, 2-on-1 is better odds. And sure, sometimes this wouldn't work and one or both of us would get killed, and that is the breaks.

With this technique I got the Wingman achievement in 5 games.
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12 Jun 2009 20:31

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Very good guide, pos vote.
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By UlteriorDesert on 20 Aug 2010 16:31
Another way is also to play with a m8 in social, got all bots and got it in 4 games
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By UlteriorDesert on 01 Nov 2010 13:55
Sticky's solution is perfect. I agree with UlteriorDesert's suggestion of playing in social. I was able to get two of three (still working on it) simply by selecting the matches I would enter into. I would search for a game that was up for grabs. If it was mostly a bot match, I would avoid it (the bots are good until they are paired with a human player). I would then look to see how far into the match the players are. If it appears that the game is about to be won, I would drop out (as a lot of players drop out of the game after the match is over, most likely leaving you with a bot). I would also drop out if the game seemed lopsided (those games end fast and you will probably end up with a bot).

I would also suggest that anyone who gets a pure bot match (you as host), to keep playing, as you are in control of the match (no one can cancel the match just as you are about to win, which happened to me a few times). You will also most likely be joined by other players rather quickly, and you will probably have an even game at that point.
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By Hockey Ed on 08 Mar 2011 12:48
Hi I was just wondering about the 'Social' aspect of this game, as my game will not allow me to play a social game, only ranked ones? Any ideas why?
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By GoGro on 14 Sep 2011 10:43
Sound solution, (just to clarify thumbs up from me!) but you can't really take in effect that if someone is a higher level than you that they are better than you any more..lol..
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By B8TINGU on 19 Oct 2010 02:12
I remember when I was between level 1-5 or something and I was paired with someone who was >50. I was the worst player in that game and we still won:)
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By Yuhans on 01 Sep 2009 13:39
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Win 3 matches as stated (ranked or social).

DO NOT camp too much while doing this achievement. Most people who aren't good at wingman tend to camp in safe locations, but this is the worst way to get the achievement. To be blunt, when you camp, the better players rack up kills and the game will end before you can catch up, so DO NOT CAMP. Also, stay as close to your teammate as possible and work together. That may seem obvious, but many gears players like to go the lone warrior route, and if you are good enough to actually do that, then you should have no problem with this achievement, and you wouldn't be reading this.

This has gotten harder to do though as more casual gamers leave the game, since many of the better gamers do seem to congregate in the wingman playlists (ranked at least), but keep playing and it should come eventually even if you aren't very good at wingman... (it took me about 20 matches when the game came out, and I was moderately good at it at the time, so gauge your time from there)

A teammate you know also helps relieve the tension if you do get your butts kicked a lot :P

And if all else fails, blame the lag... seriously, half the gears players will anyway

***I say don't camp, but that doesn't mean that when it comes down to a 2 versus 2 situation situation that you can't camp, just don't expect to do it the whole time.
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Nice one man.
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By UlteriorDesert on 01 Nov 2010 14:01
I hate this one. as of now, i haven't popped this cheevo.
if you can get 5 teams in the same lobby, you're golden. should take 1/2 hour for all 10 boosters. however, this is harder than it sounds

suggestions:
1. friend up with a few people in the boosting party to facilitate invites and chatting. prefer everyone in the party if you can.
2. don't even try until team duos are established. use an extra controller as a guest player if you haven't got ten boosters.
3. search for a match with all bots (or fellow boosters) so you know you're hosting. remember the host can end it at any time.
4. get every team on the same map and you're good. hog up all the bot slots with guest controllers or a random will drop in and ruin everything.

Why this can be so hard:
A. it can take a long time to get this organised, and even boosters who sign up for a three hour session will quit after twenty minutes if they aren't prepared to wait for a successful setup scenario. frustrating.
B. you probably wont get anywhere if you have a team of randoms. remember, you can't kick players, and most people still playing this game legit are probably very skilled. I've boosted three different 3 hour sessions without getting this cheeve cuz the randoms were so good. even bots can wipe out 4 teams of boosters if you're bad like me.
C. if you do play with randoms in the room, gang-up (obviously), but be prepared to kill each other to deny randoms the kills. if you can gather without being killed by the random team, you can get 6 kills, which will eventually win the match.
C. matchmaking seems very dicey. i don't know if this is because of geography or what, but sometimes one team wont find the match. try switching who invites the second/searches for the session. try switching teammates.
D. the party chat only hold 8 so if you manage to get 10 together, communicate properly.
E. ask a random that wont leave if they will cooperate. most wont.
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08 Dec 2010 21:43

OK i have an easier way. basically the same as the other solutions. but bots are still kinda hard to kill, and it probobly works best for people, with low bandwidth.

but where it is different is:
1. turn on your Xbox go to social.
2 then go to your computer and download a large file(s) from the internet, or something that uses allot of bandwidth for along period of time.
3.start social matchmaking.
4. you'll notice that if your using most of your bandwidth that you'll always get bots instead of other people connecting to your match.
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this works for me cause i only have 1Mb per second internet, might not work with you guys with premium internet connection
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First things first, I hated getting this achievement.

If you want all bots I suggest playing Social Wingman at around 5am your local time for the best chance, the rest of the time I was always matched up with people (who were often at level 100) even when I tried limiting my internet connection as another solution stated.

The key is learning where the powerful weapons are for each map - although the bots are tough, they won't race for power weapons in the same way that humans do.

You should be able to get hold of them and this will almost guarantee you 2-3 easy kills per round. Then, either stick with your partner to round up the remaining bots or hang around until the weapon respawns.
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24 Sep 2011 17:53