Gears of War: Judgment

Gears of War: Judgment

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Surprise!

Surprise!

Got a Double while emerging as a Corpser

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How to unlock the Surprise! achievement in Gears of War: Judgment - Definitive Guide

UPDATE: You can now get this achievement in a private match and it works perfectly.
Do it with a friend with a second controller playing as Paduk because it would easier.

Right now the only way to get this achievement is to have the host of the match make the game lag really bad. To make it lag I clicked on a random file to upload to YouTube. While it was uploading it caused immense lag to everyone in the game except me.

Now while that is uploading the achievement can be obtained. It works for the host too!

This can be done on any map in the game. I did it on Island. Get a boosting group together and search for quickmatch Overrun. Before you search have the host start up the lag. After you start the lag begin the search. It will take about 4-5 minutes until it puts you in a match with bots only.

After your in the match try to get someone on the other team. The only way to do this is to stop the lag so that a random could join, invite them to the party and ask them nicely to invite 1 or more of the people in our party. Now with the remaining bot spots open we just filled them in with guests. Just back out and sign them in. Then rejoin the match.

It seems that step is the hardest. I just found an easier way to do this. Instead of inviting the random into the party and hoping they cooperate, just have 1 of your boosting partners send the random a friend request. Then quit the game, click X to see what your friends are playing, and click Y to join the random you sent the friend request to. As long as it says Friend request pending you can join the game. You will now be on the other team. After you fill the team with guest controllers have the host lag the game really bad. The random should shortly leave because of the lag.

Now that you have no bots to worry about, have the people on the locust team getting the achievement save up to 5000 points to buy the corpser. Do this quickly by picking the grenadier and using the lancer to keep downing the enemies. Have a medic keep reviving them over and over until everyone gets 5000.

After everyone on the locust team has 5000 points then have them pick the corsper. Now that everyone is a corpser have the host of the match start the lag by messing up your connection. Everyone should now be lagging except the host.

Get the cog team to be Paduk because he dies in 1 hit from the corpser. Get 2 Paduk's standing next to eachother. Finally as the corpser go under ground and pop out right when your under them. It should say SAVING and you should get The Double ribbon and the achievement.

- This does work against bots as long as its lagging
- You can not get this in private match
- It has to be lagging when you are about to get the achievement
- Any map works

This method worked for everyone I was playing with.

Here is a video showing me getting the achievement using this method.

It shows that there are 2 bot wretches because 1 of our boosting guys power went out.
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26 Apr 2013 23:17

41 Comments
I think the gist of unlocking this achievement is that it has to be done in Quick match not ranked.
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By R0Y4LEwitCHEESE on 26 Apr 2013 23:45
^ It's supposed to work on either online mode, it's just busted atm. I'll just wait for the fix.
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By Hooded Claw 006 on 27 Apr 2013 00:08
I just tried that, got my own lobby and got the emerge double twice, in two separate games, got no double ribbons and no achievement. This was in Quick Match obviously.
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By R0Y4LEwitCHEESE on 27 Apr 2013 01:26
You have to make sure its lagging badly when you get the double kill. Im not lagging in the video cause im host.
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By jordaOwO on 27 Apr 2013 01:35
I know how to make it lag badly xD So if there's a team who wants to try it, let me know
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By Michel on 27 Apr 2013 03:03
i can confirm that a local hosted match vs bots on any map works.
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By freelance1986 on 27 Apr 2013 10:55
Is it really need to be lag? 'Cause my buddies and I couldn't get it yesterday. Today I'm gonna try hosting with lag and bots.
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By cooorpse on 27 Apr 2013 13:26
EPIC have said on the Gears of War forums that they are looking into it and that it will be fixed when the next Title Update occurs, but don't expect this to arrive any time soon.
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By Hooded Claw 006 on 27 Apr 2013 17:33
So as I understand You can get this achivement against bots? without human players? of course as long as You are laging Your connection in public quick match?
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By Fuzzy Vengeance on 27 Apr 2013 19:13
freelance1986:

You can get cheevo on local hosted game (private) with bot players? roll
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By Raptor DEM0N on 27 Apr 2013 20:32
I tried that freelance, its not working, I was in a match where anyone was unable to join my match, only people searching for my match via gamertag were able to join my team but not the other. Also I killed 3 bots at the same time an no achiev, I'm I supposed to have it lagging all the time?
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By Michel on 27 Apr 2013 20:34
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By Pixel Smash 93 on 27 Apr 2013 21:34
so, you would need a group of 5 people, then HOPEFULLY get randoms that want to boost the achievement? that is too much of a hassle if I am understanding correctly
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By Dr Scruffleton on 27 Apr 2013 21:37
yeah but what i mean is that i was indeed in a player hosted one since no one was able to join the match, and still it didn't unlock, he says he killed bots, I did too and no luck
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By Michel on 27 Apr 2013 22:56
Reposting for freelance1986 from the xbox360a forum:

"another method to the somewhat same solution is to have a proper local host, people are loosely using the term as they think its local but its not, if people can matchmake into the game, somehow get onto the opposite team or if host can be migrated then its a player hosted match.

a local hosted match however (the way me and some friends did it today), is only joinable via a invite and there is no possible way to get people on to the opposite team."

adding onto that this is perhaps the most guaranteed way in achieving it. yes it is possible to get it with bots but i believe there are different conditions or tricks in getting that to work. as few of the people on ta and over at 360a have done it both ways, the best bet in my opinion is have someone with a region with low player activity. a bot full room should occur naturally for them then wait for a random to join the opposing team. send a party invite and if they accept have everyone join their team through the party. best of luck for those eager to earn it now.
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By Roguejoker86 on 28 Apr 2013 04:34
^ yes this is what people need to understand. it is a glitched achievement and since its been out less then a week there really is no 100% sure way to obtain it, certain conditions need to be met.

ours was obtained in vip overrun where i lagged my connection to the point where it would not find a suitable match, either human players or a bot match, and after a few minutes it just said 'connecting match'. once the match started i stopped lagging it and got friends to join (5 humans vs 5 bots).

the only thing that is 100% certain is that it is a epic server side glitch, so you need to get off a epic server is some way, shape or form to unlock this achievement. epic have a bad track record when it comes to fixing things so dont expect a fix for this.

note: something else to add from our experience is that atleast 2 bots had to be killed at the same time from the emerge attack itself using right trigger (not left bumper) while still burrowed.
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By freelance1986 on 28 Apr 2013 05:52
I can't for the life of me get my connection to lag bad enough to get a lobby. I've tried everything. Downloading/uploading/that net tool program.. Nothing works. I could really use a hand getting into a lobby if anyone wants to help =)
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By ModifiedMag8 on 29 Apr 2013 18:04
I just tried this last night and these are steps that I do to get it (for my friends, I'm getting this tonight):

1) Lag the connection. I have 512kbps upload speed and I have to upload two files simultaneously to lag it out badly.
2) Get into user-hosted lobby when I see the "Connecting to match..." message. If other message appear, I back out and search again.
3) Invite two of my friends into the game and once the match start I quit the game so that the host migrate to one of my friend.
4) Stop the upload that lag my connection and rejoin the game back through one of them.
5) Play until one match is over and in the next match, all players will be scrambled out into different team.
6) Switch team as necessary. Get Corpser, kill two Paduk and *plop* achievement unlocked.

* Be reminded that whoever have the host migrated to cannot quit the game or else the user-hosted lobby will close down and everyone on the match will go back to menu. Plus if some random persons join in (some Italian did last night) you can ask nicely for them to leave the game.
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By Kasmara on 30 Apr 2013 08:40
since the booska achievement can be done on private w/ a friend hosting in theory couldn't this one be done using the same method?
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By methajones on 30 Apr 2013 20:02
I tried it in private but it didn't work. Even with lots of lag.
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By jordaOwO on 30 Apr 2013 20:27
I have had lots of trouble with this achievement. My friend and I have done this online a few times in a quick match, but the achievement has not unlocked. If anybody wants to help, it would be much appreciated! Thanks!
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By RyanMpwnz on 30 Apr 2013 21:28
Today I tried to host a lag match and we could manage to fill every spot in the match, but it wasn't enough to pop the achievement to any of us.
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By cooorpse on 01 May 2013 01:05
I can verify this solution. Since there have been many variations mentioned above, I will summarize what worked for my team below.

1. Lagged router bandwith to 11 kbps to get a local VIP quickmatch
2. Invite 2 friends (cannot be just 1)
3. Leave the game. The host will then migrate to one of the remaining two. Determine who has the new host. It will tell the remaining player that they are joining a new host.
4. Rejoin game and invite 2 others. Now the lobby is full with 5 humans
5. After the match ends, the team of 5 will split. Now there will be a team of 2 and a team of 3
6. Invite other friends to fill the lobby with 10 humans
7. When everyone has 5000 points, get the host to turn up the lag

Hope this helps to ease a bit of the confusion. Good luck!
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By D3LTA on 01 May 2013 01:33
thnx d3lta your solution worked perfect
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By kirchroa rjc on 01 May 2013 09:13
@D3LTA 360
Point 2.
It is possible to invite 2 friends as 1 friend with guest account (2nd controller)?
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By Centurion 47th on 02 May 2013 10:28
Pff i still need help with this, tried it all, got a double kill all 4 times and no achievo, makes me sad...
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By REPOMAN NL on 03 May 2013 21:13
or wait for the patch and it will take 30 seconds with no effort... lol
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By Mike the Owl on 04 May 2013 13:21
Its sunday (May 5, 2013, 8:42 gmt+1) and I can get into private lobby.
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By Fuzzy Vengeance on 05 May 2013 06:47
Confirmed on the latest Epic twitch show: From next title update, this will be fixed and ALL dlc achievements will be achievable in a private match ^_^
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By Quantum Binman on 11 May 2013 07:38
Does anyone know when the update is dropping?
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By vikingbloodlust on 27 May 2013 03:01
I just got an update by starting up today and downloading the free doc, and could not earn this or progress towards the other two in private by myself
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By Brock M Rambo on 29 May 2013 00:18
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-15074-Gears-of-... doesnt say anything about private matches giving cheevos
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By dISpiderMan on 02 Jun 2013 04:03
This achievement is damn near impossible, I've got the double kill a few times while emerging now and it doesn't register...so hard to try and time it I'm fed up of trying
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By Alyrobs on 09 Jun 2013 18:20
I did this achievement 100% legit yesterday in a public match and it didnt unlock....gtfo
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By Sniff this unit on 13 Jun 2013 18:00
just did this in private :) update ftw clap
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By Ham Man 89 on 18 Jun 2013 12:27
Can't get this to unlock in private, or even the double ribbon, does it have to be private across xbl? Or private as in on same box with 2 pads or alone on bots?
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By on 20 Jun 2013 13:56
There are achievements in the new DLC that don't work on bots. I helped this guy do it in private overrun and he got it first try on 2 human players.
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By jordaOwO on 20 Jun 2013 14:03
I got this one in private vs bots only so it does work against bots
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By NordicMythDK on 20 Jun 2013 15:17
UPDATE: I just did this a few days ago and I didn't need to lag anything. All that we used were 2 human players on the COG side as Paduk. I teamed up with another player, both of us as Corpsers. Find a spot where the AIs don't interfere and just do you're magic asap... easy. Between accumulating the neccesary points and all took us 7 to 10 mins tops.
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By Dacius Decium on 12 Nov 2014 12:38
Anyone else interested in this achievement? (like me)
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By HurriedTeacher3 on 09 Feb 2018 13:55
F this solo. Dont know how to lag switch. Everytime I get 2 kills but doesnt pop ugh
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By on 01 Jul 2021 07:44
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As of the 18 June 2013 update, you can get this achievement in a Private match with all bots. You do not need any other players or any second controllers.

Play on a map that has mounted turrets, like Terminal or Estate, because the COG bots tend to group up around turrets. When you are on the Locust team, just play until you earn enough points to purchase the Corpser. Burrow under the ground and wait for 2 or 3 COG to group up around a turret, then emerge directly under them.

I can confirm that this now works with no extra players or controllers.
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15 Sep 2013 06:17

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I can confirm this works.I know for a fact it didn't use to give doubles against bots in this instance,but now it does-thanks man.thumbs up.
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By Assassin Corvo on 25 Apr 2014 22:50
Glad it helped you out! smile
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By WeisGuy9 on 25 Apr 2014 23:09
Hmm, just tried it and got a double, it did not unlock in Private on Skyline for me.
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By EarthboundX on 19 Jan 2016 09:54
Actually maybe not, I thought I got it a few more times, but I seems I kill one, and then Cole kills himself with his own grenade launcher, since the bots are increasingly stupid.

They seem smart enough to not bunch together when I'm underground though, this is getting annoying. Think I'll just make a session for it.
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By EarthboundX on 19 Jan 2016 10:46
Just killed 2 bots while emerging and didn't get it... ffs angry
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By GsO Light on 11 Aug 2022 21:38
i've done this several times. i even got a quad kill emerging with the corpser and still no achievement.....
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By Ocelot 212 on 30 Jan 2023 02:25
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As of 18th June 2013 this can be done in PRIVATE.

Invite a friend in and put them on COG team. Have them keep running at you so you can get the 5,000 points needed to be a Corpser.

Make sure they're Paduk when you're ready to kill and have them stand next to the other Paduk in the game. I found it worked best with two Paduks as other didn't always die.

Use LB to start digging and come up just next to them and kill.

Thanks to Andyhadpie247 for helping out with this
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18 Jun 2013 13:05

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It took Epic long enough! Should have been fixed way sooner!
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By VegasWarFighter on 18 Jun 2013 19:53
I just got the achievement a few hours ago, I can confirm that you can get the achievement against a Bot team.

What I did was lagged the connection to get myself into a hosted player lobby, to know if you are doing right you need to verify 3 things:

1. When searching for a match you have to make sure you get the message "Connecting to match". You should enter to a match that will be starting just with bot players. Also if the message "Attempting to join match x" appears, backout, means you are not in a hosted player lobby.

2. While you are in the game you will only be able to invite people to your team, if you don't get anyone in the other team means you are going the right way.

3. Host won't be lagging, the other 2-4 players in your team will be lagging, if they do then you are indeed in a hosted player lobby.

You need to kill 2 people WHILE EMERGING, not one after another, you must make sure you kill them at the same time. Also it's annoying and takes a lot of time because bots will move everywhere but i'm confirming once again, IT IS POSSIBLE WITH A BOT TEAM

Good luck guys
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28 Apr 2013 06:08

Guarenteed easiest way to get this achievement!

What youll want but not need: (it just improves your chances of hitting them when you emerge as a corpser) 2 friends and to make it easier 2 guest loggins.

Have 1 Cog player defend the E-Hole and let the others get killed but the Locust player going for the achievement. I find that using the wretch to hop over the barriers is the quickest way to get the 5k points needed for the Corpser.

Once you have the Corpser have as many of the 4 bait players as you can crowd together. (Few people seem to know this part) Now stand right next to them as a Corpser and burrow under the ground (youll do massive damage to them but not kill them). Then emerge very shortly after and upon emerging youll kill said players as they are severely weakened so its easy now.

The trick here that makes this achievement difficult and confusing is once you are burrowed the game automatically advances you forward so its hard to get the right distance for emerging. Also when you emerge the Corpser has 2 seperate attacks that it does without you pressing anything: the first is the emerging out of the ground (this is the attack that needs to be the killing blow so you can get the achievement) the 2nd is a slash with its claws that if you kill the targets with it that is doesnt count towards the achievement.
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Gametype: Overrun
Type: Public or Ranked
Map: Any
Requirements: Double kill with Corpser as you emerge from ground

You will need to play in the Overrun mode. As the Locusts, you must earn enough points to become a Corpser. A Corpser costs a total of 5000 points. You need to dig underground and try to emerge underneath two enemies. This should result in instant kills. If you kill two people at once like this, you will get the achievement. It's best to boost this achievement with 2 other players who should choose the human side. Scouts are the weakest of the classes, so the two people that will die should be scouts. Have them stand in a corner and emerge from the ground from below to kill them.

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