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Clawing At The Roots Of A Cosmic Order

Clawing At The Roots Of A Cosmic Order

Get to know Saymund.

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How to unlock the Clawing At The Roots Of A Cosmic Order achievement in Ghost Song - Definitive Guide

**HIGHLY MISSABLE**

You need to talk to Saymund, who wears a diving suit / suit of armour, at points throughout the game. Each time you need to talk until he repeats himself.

After handing in the first spaceship part, find him in these three places
- the camp
- the stumbledeep
- next to the sprint upgrade

After the second part, find him here:
- Ekman's Crossing (horizontal room before Hector)
- next to the spear upgrade

After the third part:
- the camp
- Ekman's Crossing, where you killed Hector. Leave and re-enter the room straight after killing Hector

And after the fourth part:
- outside the lab (on the right of the map) - the achievement popped for me after I spoke with him here

If you're having trouble finding those locations, check the map here:
https://demajen.co.uk/#G

It looks like you don't need every single encounter: for some people, it's popped before the last one. But I suggest you do them all as you go to be as safe as possible.

Most of these points are marked on the map by now (demajen is great and has been improving the map as the community finds more stuff), but as I write this, the two points in Ekman's Crossing aren't yet shown. Watch out for those in particular.

EDIT: Demajen has responded to say they got the achievement on PlayStation without the Ekman's Crossing chats, and some people have commented below to say they got it without the last one. For safety, I recommend doing everything above until it pops. If you get it early: great!
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06 Nov 2022 06:37

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Unfortunately you can't get this achievement once you hand in the final part. I've been able to travel and acquire the additional chats with other NPCs (like Pasha or relic) but Saymund stays stuck at the lab so I can't find him at other locations.
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By SwaRoDia XP on 11 Nov 2022 04:05
This achievement appears to only require just talking to Saymund in enough unique scenarios: got a couple extra interactions not mentioned here and it popped at the second Ekman’s Crossing interaction, without the one outside the lab.
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By ChiflaGoodluck on 11 Nov 2022 08:31
Sucks, i hate missable achievements like this. I found him 1 time after i finished the game, in the junk pit area, so i searched out all other locations in that map, but he wasn't there. I came across him a few times in the game (I didn't use a guide until i finished it & wanted to get other achievements that i couldn't figure out), so i was hoping i was only missing that 1 conversation, but i went back to his final place & the achievement didn't pop. i guess I'm screwed out of this one.
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By twztid13 on 17 Nov 2022 18:02
Yeah I had a similar experience as ChiflaGoodLuck, I think it's just based on the number of interactions. I got this achievement after the third part, doing every chat interaction you mentioned in the guide, and then finally I did another right below the Norberg Laboratory fast travel area, where he discusses the devil stalkers. The location is marked on the map you linked as well.
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By IronFistofSnuff on 03 Mar 2023 02:29
As far as I can tell Saymund is the only NPC for these missable questlines and their achievements that doesn't appear in the game before returning your first ship part. I've looked all over for them.
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By EarthboundX on 03 Nov 2023 12:23
EarthboundX - I agree. I looked very carefully at the time and was part of the group figuring out the game on the dev's Discord. None of us (at the point I played this anyway) found him before handing in the first part.
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By A1exRD on 03 Nov 2023 13:15
This also popped for me after the third ship part, at the cleaved tree where you fight Hector.
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By EarthboundX on 05 Nov 2023 10:22
Thanks: I've updated the solution noting it pops early for some people. It probably does just need a set number of meetings... though I did every single one above, and it didn't pop for me until the last one!

Perhaps that's because I missed one at the Norberg Lab, and the rest of you got it.

Regardless, if you do all the ones in the solution, it looks like you'll get it (and might get it early).
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By A1exRD on 05 Nov 2023 11:02
The only one I couldn't find at all was the one that's listed on the map just east of the 5th Healing Core in Luputo. That might actually be the Norberg Lab one you are talking about. Oh and there's one in the Junkpit you don't have listed here as well.

Well scratch that, was making me way back with the 4th part and now here's there near the Norberg Lab, lol.
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By EarthboundX on 05 Nov 2023 11:10
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Missable trophy. Don't give up the last 5 spare part until you talk to your twin brother
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28 Dec 2022 02:12