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Insane Difficulty Complete

Insane Difficulty Complete

Complete the game on the Insane difficulty.

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How to unlock the Insane Difficulty Complete achievement in Gun - Definitive Guide

There are two ways to get this achievement :
a)you have a lot of time and patience and just complete this game on insane using a lot of cover and skill
b)you use the cheat which let's you select the final mission, you beat the boss and achievement unlocked.. ok for the cheat you stand between the two rocks at the beginning of the game and hold LT+RT+LB+RB+A until you hear a strange noise. you should be able the select GUN in options. Load the mission Magruder's Mine. Once the mission starts, go back into pause menu, options, Gun and load the last checkpoint of this mission...Once that starts, (this is the important previously missed part) again go into pause menu, options, Gun, and "Toggle Help"...This will now load all the guns and weapons you should have at this point in the game! (This also unlocks the 'all upgrades-achievement') Now just kill Magruder and then insane/hard/normal/easy achievement (whichever you're doing it on) unlocks once you killed him.
Credits to Dad NorthVT and weeken for contributing to this solution.
For a video to see where the right spot is go here :
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09 Sep 2008 17:40

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yea what6 cheat would that be?
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By Von Loufy on 20 Sep 2008 02:22
start a new game, go to the rocks in the water (to the right just as you start the game) then hold LT+RT+LB+RB+A until you hear a weird noise and then press START go to options and you should see a new option called GUN which let's you select missions and checkpoints. just select magruder's mine last checkpoint and kill him and the achievement is yours
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By don manolito on 27 Sep 2008 23:52
And how do we use this cheat? ;)
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By porschephiliac on 17 Sep 2008 22:17
I can't seem to get it to work. Can you do it on a new game or do you have to do it on a game where you already beat it?
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By Ashen Seraph on 31 Dec 2008 21:56
Oh, never mind, I was waiting too long apparently. You have to pause while the noise is still going.
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By Ashen Seraph on 31 Dec 2008 21:59
Or maybe not... what the hell?
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By Ashen Seraph on 31 Dec 2008 22:00
OK, you have to pause while the sound is playing and still holding the buttons.
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By Ashen Seraph on 31 Dec 2008 22:04
Worked a treat for me, many thanks
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By mik29 on 05 Jan 2009 23:41
HAHA NOW TO GO HIRE THIS OUT A GAIN :(
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By Strikingstriker on 05 Feb 2009 14:54
OK, question....To change difficulty, you need to start a new game right? So, I start a new game on insane, do the cheat, and I'm at the last part of the last mission with Macgruder....But because it's a new game I have the wimpy weapons you start the game with, and 2 shots from Macgruder kill me...Is this what all of you have done? Is there any way to change game diffculty with the built-up character/weapons I ended the game on normal mode with?
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By chown 777 u on 22 Mar 2009 21:47
OK, I got it....Start a new game on Hard, Extreme or whatever acheivement you want to get...Go between the rocks and perform the move as indicated above...Go into options and choose "gun"...Load the mission Magfruder's Mine...The once the mission starts, go back into pause menuu, options, Gun and load the last checkpoint of this mission...Once that starts, (this is the important previously missed part) again go into pause menu, options, Gun, and "Toggle Help"...This will now load all the guns and weapons you should have at this point in the game! Thanks for all the info, fantastic....
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By chown 777 u on 25 Mar 2009 13:50
All the advice from the original post to Dad NorthVT's additional advice here helped a bunch! Thanks!
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By Ne0nOmega on 01 May 2009 18:06
This worked like a charm! I did this right after finishing the game so I had to get a horse from just outside the Mine. Then ride it over to the Ferry and through the hills a bit. This is were the video starts. It took me a couple trys of holding the buttons and then some struggles getting the horse up some of the rocks, but all of this took about 20 minutes. By the way, the "Toggle Help" option also unlocked "Every upgrade collected".
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By YourGibs2 on 20 Jun 2009 16:35
Thanks for the tips guys, I've added them to the guide so it's easier to find and gave credit to people that helped.
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By don manolito on 20 Jun 2009 19:23
Good stuff guys. Just got this game yesterday so thanks for the guide. The extras after the guide help to clarify questions - thanks to all.
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By WinnerzOnlyInc on 22 Jun 2009 16:12
The other way of looking at it is that the other achievements should be stackable. I finished the game on hard but the achievements for easy and medium didn't unlock. That means they both have an unnaturally high TA ratio. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
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By Crow555 on 27 Jan 2010 10:45
Thx for this
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By TheJimiHippie on 08 Mar 2010 02:59
Okay, there is a lot of good info here, but it was a bit confusing when I tried this last night. Here are the steps for completing this.

1. Complete the game on any difficulty first (I believe this is required to access the cheat).
2. Load up your completed save game file and travel back to the starting location. If you're unsure of where this location is, it's the very first place that you start the game. Follow the youtube link to see how to get your horse to jump over the ledges. It's possible, just kick the horse a lot and eventually you'll make it over each of the ledges.
3. Stand between the rocks and press all at the same time "LT+RT+LB+RB+A". (Some websites say you only need to press "LT+RT+A". Either way, one of those will work.)
4. Pause the game and under Options you should see "Gun".
5. Exit the current game.
6. On the main menu, select "New Game" and select whatever difficulty you want.
7. Once the game starts, access the secret "Gun" menu. First select "Toggle Help". Then select "Missions", "Main", "MacGruder's Mine".
8. Once the mission loads, select the "Gun" menu then "Checkpoints". Select the last checkpoint in the list.
9. Kill MacGruder and get the achievement.
10. Quit the current game and start a new game with a different difficulty and repeat starting on step 6.

For everyone who was complaining about how this cheat will lower the ration: It's been two years since this was posted and the ratio is still over 2 for the insane achievement.

And I agree 100% with Crow555. It's ridiculous that it doesn't give you all of the lower achievements for completing the game. That is now standard practice for XBOX games, but I guess it wasn't at the time Gun was made (wasn't it one of the leading games for the new XBOX?).
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By davidjcubberly on 18 Mar 2010 14:18
Thanks. When do you select the insane level?
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By TORTUGAS01 on 01 Apr 2010 00:09
I love it when people bitch about games that have cheats. The game came with them, not using them would be like not using the quick draw, its in the game, get over it.

The TA ratio thing was a good idea, but people bitching about it makes it not a good idea. I beat it on regular XBOX, on insane mode, right around 4 years ago. When 360's were 1 million dollars. It was about the gayest thing I'v ever done. So theres that.

Thanks for the cheat "I will be using it !". +
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By WifelikeDrip on 06 Apr 2010 05:19
yea thanks for posting this, i couldn't even escape the jail, i am going to use this to finish this game, which i started back in 2005 or maybe even 2006. at least now i can feel like i can get my money value out of a game that has been sitting on my shelf for 4+ years.
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By xenon ghost on 02 May 2010 12:52
works great thank you =)
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By Absinthe Shots on 03 May 2010 17:46
thanks for sharing! Unlike some of these whiney noobs! True achievements is a place to help people get achievements not hide it from them so you can obtain more ratio, you are a disgrace to the community.

Thanks again don. +1
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By on 01 Sep 2010 22:02
i can get up there but do u need to complete the game 1st ???
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By Uber Old Acc on 16 Oct 2010 13:08
right ive got up there got the last level i keep dyin is it reckonmended tht i complete on easy 1st msg me via xbox plz
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By Uber Old Acc on 16 Oct 2010 14:17
@ Rooney : There are multiple solutions here describing how to beat him... All you have to do is read them.
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By don manolito on 16 Oct 2010 17:31
wow never mind my last comment it did but they dont show in the sadlebag!
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By Uber Old Acc on 17 Oct 2010 02:25
shame they ant stacked
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By Uber Old Acc on 17 Oct 2010 02:44
Lol at ratio whining. Get over it
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By LIBERT4D on 23 May 2011 07:34
great!!!
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By I EduardLaser I on 09 Jul 2011 11:23
exactly what it says on the tin. Positive from me
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By JODAW on 15 Jul 2011 21:29
worked for me. big thanks to davidjcubberly as well for laying out the sequence.
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By AZ Mongoose on 01 Aug 2011 16:16
Where the rock ? can you shoot a picture .,, the Video dont work anymore !
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By John Murrphy on 04 Sep 2011 16:30
worked great, got it in five minutes
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By Xanothus on 26 Sep 2011 08:13
Video works, it just doesn't allow embedding anymore. Click it to watch on YouTube.
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By planting42 on 26 Sep 2011 19:44
If the achievements for difficulty were stackable, I would have done the old Call of Duty way where I start the game on veteran and suffer through it.

But since they're not, I finished the game once legit and used the cheat code for the other three. To hell with four playthroughs of a thoroughly meh game.
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By Mobius Evalon on 15 Apr 2016 16:42
I was unaware that this was the solution on TA for this as well as x360a. About three years ago I used this glitch when it was only in the guide on x360a.org and I was set to GS tracking only for it.

Appealed the case, and same guy responded pretty much saying, "Too bad, shouldn't have cheated."
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By Manb3arSquirrel on 20 Jan 2018 22:43
TL;DR - Cheat codes are not against the code of conduct or terms of service. They are not against the spirit of the game either, if the developers left the game like that.
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By Manb3arSquirrel on 20 Jan 2018 22:44
nope im following " davidjcubberly " solution from ur comments its not taking my weapons across when i toggle help. whats going wrong there like ?
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By Uber Old Acc on 17 Oct 2010 02:23
worked great! thanks
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By Moeckelizer on 22 Oct 2011 21:43
Thanks!!! ^^
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By Bitsyth on 30 Apr 2012 21:41
FYI: You do not need to use your completed game to jump the horse up the rocks and go back to the start to do this. I started a new game after getting my 100%, and then I just ran straight to the rocks and did the cheat/glitch. Start a new game - select desired difficulty - run to rocks and mash the button combo - "beat" the game - rinse and repeat!
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By OzzysShadyDisco on 12 Aug 2013 08:19
Looks like someone completed the game and Then realized there was a cheat.
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By SuperiorGlobe15 on 17 Aug 2013 15:52
I don't know why you got set to GS tracking only, but it wasn't anything to do with this.
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By Beanpotter on 30 Mar 2020 11:11
I activated the Toggle Help but didn't get the 'All Upgrades Achievement'.. any tips?
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By Dead King1007 on 22 Jun 2021 08:42
The video is as clear as mud but the written description is good though.
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By toddycst on 15 Apr 2012 22:11
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This is more of an updated solution for the achievement, considering ive just completed the game i thought i would upload the video of me finishing the game on Insane to see if i could help anyone. I would recommend completing the game to 100% before attempting this (it will make it 100% easier because you can carry over your weapons).

I have created a video of me doing the cheat with instructions which i have linked below, this can be done on every difficulty if need be, it doesnt just work for insane.
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I was really worried since I beat this game so long ago, but your guide made it a 5 minute thing. Thanks so much man. If i could have liked it 100 times I would have.
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By brent1221 on 26 Nov 2012 07:17
i get theese enemies that spawn behind me all the time
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By SlavenBOSS on 02 Aug 2014 08:39
Thank you for keeping you guide up it was a great help.
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By TH0R TD on 20 Sep 2012 17:41
no prob glad it helped :)
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By iM3RKxYOUx on 21 Sep 2012 14:54
Enemies spawn behind me and shoot me through the walls. Is there any way around this?
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By TacticalChaos15 on 29 Dec 2017 07:16
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As well as using the cheats there is a rock to the right where you spawn for the second part of killing margurder, on this rock in the top right hand corner is a V like shpae with a bigger spike on the right, stand behind here and walk backwards untill the reticule goes red, he should not be able to shoot you, but you can shoot him.
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20 Aug 2009 21:23

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can you post a video or a picture to show this rock more clearly
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By VortigauntBlade on 01 Mar 2010 03:42
@VortigauntBlade: Here's a picture of the exact position:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1231/gunfinalmagrude....jpg

Thanks to "don manolito" and "F L 4 N D 3 R 5", this worked like a charm
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By tajbender on 21 Nov 2010 22:22
Excellent tip!! Worked perfectly!!!
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By Mo the Surfer on 15 Feb 2012 19:55
I couldn't quite find the correct spot, but if you're accurate enough the dude never gets a shot off anyway.
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By Mobius Evalon on 15 Apr 2016 16:40
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The cheat works great to get to the final boss, but here's a little tip on how to beat him.

Take cover! On insane it takes only two shots to get deadified. You must hide behind one of the rocks around the place. I simply walk to the first one on the right. Tap the D Pad to the right (or left if you're on the left) and pop out of cover for just a moment to make him fire at you. He has six shots before he has to reload. If he doesn't shoot them all the first time, just pop out again until he has to reload. Then use a rifle and try your best to shoot him in the head. This should make him toss dynamite, which you can blast with your quickdraw. Rinse and repeat.

Chances are if you cheated you may run out of ammo. Just try to stay covered as much as possible and scour the area. After a bit you should get it no problem!
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Here is how I got my three achievements for Normal, Difficult and Insane Difficulty:
1) Use the cheat
2) Choose to load the last mission
3) Once the loading is finished just go back to the cheat menu
4) Go to checkpoint and load "Kill Magruder Part 2"
And there you are at the last battle without having to do all the killing :D

About the easiest way to kill Magruder this is how I did it.
Like F L 4 N D 3 R 5 said get behind the rock which is shape like a "V" (I will add a picture later), make sure he soots at you and when you see him withdrawing is gun charge the quickdraw and shoot one of the three dynamite "uncharged" the quickdraw and aim for the head with the rifle DO NOT MAKE ANY PAUSE shoot quickly and redo this three and the achievements are yours ;)
I will try to do a video of this because in words it's not that simple to understand.
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10 Aug 2010 21:29

Ok first of all let’s say this, you will NOT unlock the achievements for completing Easy, Normal, and Hard if you beat the game on Insane, you are going to have to play the game four times, once on each difficulty, it is recommended that you start at easy and progress towards Insane because then you will have a good understanding about the game. Here are some helpful tips that should help you get through Insane Mode.

  • Don’t forget to look around corners, this helps to pick off enemies without being fully exposed, to do this just press or .
  • Never rush into an area, stay back and pick off enemies with a sniper or a rifle, you WILL die if you try to be a hero.
  • Always ensure you have a full whiskey bottle and ammo before starting a new mission, there's nothing worse than running out of ammo in the middle of a fight.
  • Complete as many side missions as possible so that your stats increase as your progress through the game.
  • Buy a Pickaxe and mine some gold, then go and buy as many upgrades as you can afford, they do help.

Good luck and if you manage to complete the game on Insane Mode, Congratulations.

I strongly advise just using this cheat method just to save a LOT of time and frustration, as Insane difficulty is incredibly difficult and frustrating. Here are the instructions on how to do the cheat:

  1. Beat the game on Easy and keep your save file (you’ll need this file to cheese the side missions using this cheat as well).
  2. Start a new game on the difficulty you want to earn the achievement for (for the sake of this achievement, pick Insane).
  3. Turn slightly right and walk to the river bed and go in between the two small rocks, now turn around to face Ned.
  4. Hold ++++. You’ll here a peculiar sound effect. Keep holding the buttons until the sound stops.
  5. Pause the game and go into the Options menu. You should see a new tab called “Gun”. If you don’t, repeat step 4.
  6. Click the “Gun” tab, then select Missions > Main > Magruder’s Mine.
  7. When the mission loads, pause the game again and go into the menu again, but this time hit Checkpoints. Scroll down and select “Kill Magruder Pt 2”.
  8. When the mission loads, pause the menu again and select the option Toggle Help, this will give you all of your guns (this is why you must beat the game at least once on easy, to unlock all of the guns).
  9. Turn around and look at the small rocky structure. Take cover behind the taller rock on the left and select the sniper rifle by holding and .
  10. If you did it right, he will not be able to hit you. Hold again to poke your head out. Press to zoom in on the scope. Shoot Magruder in the head with the sniper rifle.
  11. When he throws the dynamite. Press and shoot the dynamite out of the air. Repeat 4x to kill Magruder and earn this achievement.
  12. Repeat steps 1-11 on Hard difficulty and Normal difficulty for their respective achievements. This should take you about 10-15 minutes or so all together.

IMPORTANT: There is also a way to do this to unlock each of the various side mission achievements as well, and it DOES count towards the 100% total needed to unlock the last weapon for the “Every Weapon Collected” achievement. To do the trick, here are the steps:

  1. Do steps 1-5 above if you haven’t already (I’m going to assume you have).
  2. Load up your easy save file (this is why you must keep it, as stated in step 1).
  3. You should see the “Gun” tab in the Options section of the menu.
  4. I’ll use Poker as an example. Select Missions > Side > Side: Texas Hold ‘Em > Scroll down to the last one.
  5. All you have to do is complete the last mission of that type to unlock the achievement. Meaning, for Poker, instead of having to beat all 6 rounds of the tournament, you can simply load up the last one and beat that. This will unlock “Card Shark” and add a nice chunk to your completion %.
  6. Repeat steps 3-4, but do it with another type of side mission. It can be Hunting, Peace Keeper, Bounty Hunter missions, Pony Express or Horse Challenges/Ranch Hand activities. Simply select the last one of each type and complete it for that respective achievement. The only one I had to do every mission for was Pony Express. Using this method for the last one will earn you the achievement, but it will not add to your game completion %.

Note: If you turn your Xbox off, the menu will disappear. Don't panic though, you can make it reappear by exiting the game and then performing steps 2-5.

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