Hades

Hades

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Bad Call

Bad Call

Use an Olympian's Greater Call against them in a Trial

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How to unlock the Bad Call achievement in Hades - Definitive Guide

As you play you will come across rooms that offer TWO boons from two different gods, your goal is to have the aid ability from one of those gods and pick the OPPOSITE boon and anger them. Then use a fully charged God gauge attack during the following wave of enemies.

Example you find a room with Ares and Zeus. you already have Zeus's aid ability you pick Aeries and upset Zeus's charge his own ability and fire it off.

This can be done easily like Friends in High Places by being in Elysium finding one of these events and leaving alive one of the enemies that regenerate *Brightsword, Longspear, strongbow, greatshield, and turn into ghosts when dead* Keep letting them regen to build gauge.

Edit: For anyone having issues with this unlocking be aware that using Quick Resume/Suspend for this game breaks achievements, You MUST fully close the game each time you stop playing it, even if it is just to launch another app.
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14 Aug 2021 06:32

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I tried this with Artemis in Elysium, but the achievement didn't unlock after the fight...
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By Yaum Guigui on 15 Aug 2021 19:24
I also did this in Elysium with Poseidon. Was definitely a full gauge and he even cursed me “why you little…!” Or words to that effect. Won the fight, went on to clear the boss (and die on the next level), didn’t unlock this at any point. Hopefully just delayed.
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By Laughablefellow on 15 Aug 2021 22:42
"Example you find a room with Aeries and Zeus and you have Zeus's aid ability you pick Aeries and upset Zeus's charge his own ability and fire it off."

Can you please add some punctuation to this, I can't understand what you are trying to say.
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By DarqStalker on 16 Aug 2021 12:07
"Can you please add some punctuation to this, I can't understand what you are trying to say."
I fixed it a bit but it is fairly simple. You just pick the god who you do not have the Aid ability of.
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By Zero Jehuty on 16 Aug 2021 15:20
Unlocked today after doing it again (Artemis’s call in Elysium), unlocked perfectly this time. First time may have been affected by the game suspend bug that seems to be causing problems for many, luckily it’s a fairly easy thing to replicate on future runs if you play enough.
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By Laughablefellow on 16 Aug 2021 15:55
To those above, if you use the "Quick Resume" function (exit the game, watch youtube/hulu/whatever, then go back into it), achievements don't unlock. Sometimes they unlock after exiting and restarting the game, but sometimes they don't. This seems to be one of those achievements that HAS to happen on a fresh, non-resumed session. I had the same thing happen fighting Aries with his blade vortex Aid ability.
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By MechaHeretic on 17 Aug 2021 20:38
Good guide! I got it in Elysium like you noted, but then I met the conditions again on my next run in Asphodel without even trying. Hermes has a boon "Quick Favor" which charges your Call meter automatically over time, so you can simply run around until the meter is full.

It's fun to hear the dialog when the gods are forced to assist you while also fighting you!
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By Madtown B on 25 Aug 2021 16:36
Might have just been my lack of understanding of the game but just as a heads up: you need a FULL bar to activate the greater call. You can fill it up by damaging enemies or taking damage, the achievement pops after the dialogue
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By The S bot 9000 on 29 Aug 2021 02:30
Ares*
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By KingofPain001 on 04 Sep 2021 02:40
Chances are that there will not be enough enemys spawned for you to get a greater call by just attacking so make sure you intentionally take damage. In Asphodel I just stood in the magma to charge it up.
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By DaithixPxD on 08 Sep 2021 08:12
I did this and won the level before the greater call finished. No Achievement. You may have to use the entire aid before it counts.
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By PhillipWendell on 09 Oct 2021 19:02
Thank you so much for mentioning the “breaking achievements” thing. Saved me!
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By EliteAssassin13 on 27 Aug 2022 02:07
you already have Zeus's aid ability you pick Aeries and upset Zeus's charge his own ability and fire it off.
My head hurts after trying to understand this.
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By Corn 0nThe Cobb on 10 Mar 2023 22:20
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Zero Jehuty's guide above provides a great description on how to get this achievement.

However, I would like to provide a tip that could potentially save others a lot of time. Hades' keepsake that grants you his call does NOT count towards this achievement. This is because Hades is not technically an Olympian as the achievement specifies. To make sure, I used Hades' greater call multiple times during his encounter and was unfortunately not able to get the achievement.
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28 Aug 2021 08:35

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But Hades never shows up in a Trial, the final fight is not a Trial, so of course that wouldn't work.
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By FarleyTheLegend on 09 Sep 2021 22:54
That is a good point, @FarleyTheLegend. I completely overlooked that. I at least hope this post saves someone the trouble of learning this the hard way.
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By PH1 HUNG on 09 Sep 2021 23:21
Yeah, I guess it's easy to focus on 1 part and miss the other. And yeah, if this helps at least 1 person, its worth it.
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By FarleyTheLegend on 09 Sep 2021 23:48
I was going to try this. Overlooked the important details. Thanks for saving me the effort!
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By Theodoricus Rex on 08 Jan 2022 07:46
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Very luck-based, but there are some modifiers that can help. Cranking up mob count through "Jury Summons" in your Pact of Torment before your run would help build up your God Gauge. Zeus also has a boon named "Clouded Judgement" that boosts your God Gauge generation from dealing and receiving damage. [Edit: Poseidon also has the boon "Boiling Point" that increases God Gauge gain from taking damage]

The easiest (but still heavily luck-based) way to get this achievement is by banking on a trial spawning in Elysium, then abusing the respawn mechanic of Elysium's soldiers to grind out gauge. I got the achievement by sacrificing a large amount of HP & a couple Death's Defiance charges to generate God Gauge from taking damage, did it in Tartarus.
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05 Nov 2023 00:00

Once in a while, you'll come upon a chamber that offers 2 boons instead of just 1, and this is called a Trial. When you enter the chamber, there won't be any enemies. You'll be able to choose 1 of the 2 boons. Once you pick one, enemies will spawn and whichever God's Boon you didn't choose will add a special AOE attack.

To get this trophy, you'll first need to have a Call Boon from a God, and hope that one of the Gods in the Trial is the same God whose Call you currently have. Once you've already got that, choose the opposite Boon; the God whose Call you do not have. Because you have to use the Greater Call, you'll have to wait until your God Gauge is completely full. See Friends in High Places trophy_bronze.png above for more information on the God Gauge and Greater Call and how to speed it up. Once it's full, use your Greater Call by pressing r2.png and this trophy will pop.

If you're lucky enough to have this happen in Elysium, an easy way to fill your gauge quickly is to leave one of the Exalted mobs alive so that it can continuously respawn, and keep taking damage from it until you've finally maxed your gauge out.

In the end, this trophy is unfortunately purely luck-based. You just have to hope you'll eventually come across a double Boon chamber that has a God whose Call you already have. There's no real way to force or even encourage this to happen, just pure RNG. In my first playthrough, I was 80 hours in and never got this. In my second, I got this in the very first run the Call became available. So don't lose hope. Just keep your eye out and it will eventually happen.
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