Lies of P

Lies of P

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Real boy : They all lived happily ever after

Real boy : They all lived happily ever after

[Real boy: They all lived happily ever after] Reach the ending.

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How to unlock the Real boy : They all lived happily ever after achievement in Lies of P - Definitive Guide

Cloud Save Method (Console/Game Pass) At the very bottom! Get 2 out of 3 endings in 1 playthrough! Read through the guide carefully and have a look at the comments for the best insight! I can not provide any assistance if it does not work.

Important Note from WhyattThrash - The game does perform periodic cloud uploads without user interaction. The safest way to go for the achievements are to 1) try offline or 2) go about it real fast if offline doesn’t work, but be aware that might lead to the game uploading a save on its own and there’s not much to be done about it.

Here's a guide for all lie/truth choices/gaining humanity in the game, Created by WhyattThrash - Telling truth/lies scenarios and gaining Humanity (SPOILERS)

Xbox FAQ on how cloud saves work - https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/games-apps/game-setup-an...

After beating the "final" boss Simon Manus in Chapter 11, you will meet with Geppetto. He wants you to give him your heart, and you have two choices, "refuse" or "Give the Heart". To get this ending you must give Geppetto your heart. Your choices of telling the truth or lies throughout the game do not matter for this ending, and will only take effect if you refuse to give your heart.

Don't go into New Game+ after the credits. Doing this ending will also give you an additional achievement! Don't restart your game to return to Hotel Krat, and read the note at Geppetto's desk.


Lies of PThe Story of One FatherThe The Story of One Father achievement in Lies of P worth 51 pointsFind out about the last story of Geppetto.


Additionally, if you're on your Lie/Humanity playthrough -

Lies of PThe Story of the Blue ButterflyThe The Story of the Blue Butterfly achievement in Lies of P worth 47 pointsFind out about the last story of Sophia.


Interact with the portrait to get the Golden Lie special weapon

Lies of PSpecial Weapon CollectorThe Special Weapon Collector achievement in Lies of P worth 110 pointsCollect all special weapons.


If you refuse, you will fight the true final boss "Nameless Puppet", and will get the ending based on if you -

Mostly lied ("Rise of P")

Lies of PSecret AchievementThe Secret Achievement achievement in Lies of P worth 220 pointsContinue playing to unlock this secret achievement


Mostly told the truth ("Free of the Puppet Strings").

Lies of PSecret AchievementThe Secret Achievement achievement in Lies of P worth 221 pointsContinue playing to unlock this secret achievement


Cloud Save Method (Console only) - By doing this method you can get 2 endings in 1 playthrough! You can get "Real Boy" by giving Geppetto your heart, AND either "Rise of P" or "Free of the Puppet Strings" by refusing depending on your truth and lie choices throughout the game.

Offline tip by chris8079 - For anyone who doesn't wanna risk messing up, you can just make sure you save uploads and then go offline before getting this achievement. Afterwards, just delete your save and go back online to sync it back up before fighting the nameless puppet.

Cloud Save Method used by Gotham Rises -

MAKE SURE YOUR GAME IS RUNNING after you get your final achievement for whatever you're doing > hit Xbox button > hover Lies of P > Menu button > Manage game > Saved data > Click your gamertag > Delete from console > Resume Lies of P. You should then be forced to load the game back to the main menu, just hit continue, and you should be back at wherever you made your cloud save. Literally just worked for me. If you've played a From Software game, you've done this before..

Cloud Save Method used by FrankCastle492 -

Sit at the Stargazer before speaking to Geppetto.
-Quit your game (On the dashboard) so your save uploads to the cloud.
-Start the game up again, and give him your heart, then after the credits you can get the letter from his study to complete his story.
-After that stand still and press the guide button, highlight the game and press start, go to manage add-ons, go to saved data, and delete your save from the console only this will force close the game.
-When you load up the game, it will download your cloud save, and you'll be back at the Stargazer before Geppetto and can do one of the other two endings.

Cloud Save Method used by MiNDmaZing -

Sat at the stargazer, Exit the game for a cloud save
loaded up, refused heart -> beat nameless pupped, trade ergo for weapon
listened to 1 song fully to get full humanity -> read the letter on table ->
took golden lie from the picture

Afterwards i deleted the profile from console and the game forced a quit. cloud save downloaded and i could give heart -> read letter from table and played the piano
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105 Comments
So can you do two endings on one playthrough by repeating the final boss and choosing a different option?
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By FrankCastle492 on 25 Sep 2023 20:03
@FrankCastle492 - Unfortunately not, only 1 ending per play-through. However, I have read that people on Steam and PlayStation were able to make a cloud/backup save before the boss to get the other ending. It could be possible on Xbox/PC/Game pass, but I'm not sure/have not seen it done for Xbox.
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 25 Sep 2023 20:13
I can confirm it's possible to use the usual method as always on Xbox, at the last save point before speaking to Geppetto.
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By FrankCastle492 on 25 Sep 2023 22:49
@FrankCastle492 - That’ll definitely be a time saver! I’m not familiar with the method you mentioned, are you able to explain or link to a resource? I can add that to the guide! Apologies, I've never messed around with saves and back ups before!
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 25 Sep 2023 23:30
-Sit at the Stargazer before speaking to Geppetto.
-Quit and close your game normally so your save uploads to the cloud.
-Start the game up again, and give him your heart, then after the credits you can get the letter from his study to complete his story.
-After that stand still and press the guide button, highlight the game and press start, go to manage add-ons, go to saved data, and delete your save from the console only this will force close the game.
-When you load up the game, it will download your cloud save, and you'll be back at the Stargazer before Geppetto and can do one of the other two endings.
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By FrankCastle492 on 26 Sep 2023 00:00
This with the Xbox 360, it didn't happen
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By L3oD4sMod3ll on 26 Sep 2023 00:04
so either it's possible to not get either ending and I got a different one or my achievement glitched lol
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By Nicrotix on 26 Sep 2023 00:45
Cloud save method did not work.. 👎 Followed it exactly but the game saves when you pick up and read the letter from his desk and puts you back there when you reload. Now I wasted my chance to fight the nameless puppet big rip 😠
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By TheJJRambo on 26 Sep 2023 09:37
@TheJJRambo you probably did something wrong because it worked for me.
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By Caranthial on 26 Sep 2023 13:02
@TheJJRambo - I’m really sorry to hear about that. The method seems to work as @Caranthial - did it successfully. Again, sorry to inconvenience you, I know playing through the game at least 3 times sucks. @FrankCastle492 - Would you know any points of failure for the cloud save to not work? Or maybe it was just an error on his side.
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 26 Sep 2023 16:14
This is not my first time using this method so I don't think I did anything wrong. Like I said I went back to geppetos office to pick up his letter. The problem is the achievement doesn't pop until you open your inventory and read the letter, and whenever you do that the game creates a new save (saving icon appears in top right) and thus gets rid of your previous save before you talk to geppeto
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By TheJJRambo on 26 Sep 2023 18:48
The cloud save scum works, I was able to open the letter, i just hit the back button when i picked it up i didnt open my inventory but i doubt it clouds saves when u open the inventory anyways i think the other guy just messes up somehow like accidentally went to the stargaser first.
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By SafeSquare93948 on 26 Sep 2023 20:21
For anyone who doesnt wanna risk messing up, you can just make sure your save uploads then go offline before getting this achievement. Afterwards just delete your save and go back online to sync it back up before fighting the nameless puppet
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By chris8079 on 27 Sep 2023 04:48
@chris8079 - Thanks for the comment, I'll add that to the guide! Reducing any potential mishaps will help!
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 27 Sep 2023 05:11
It doesn't matter if the game saves, it doesn't upload to the cloud until you quit the game. The only place you can make a mistake is if before deleting your save, you dashboarded out and quit the game, as you need to delete the save while the game is still running in the background.
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By FrankCastle492 on 27 Sep 2023 21:16
This game doesn't seem to upload to cloud at the start screen like most other games, but at random intervals during play. So as suggested, you should go offline to prevent a cloud upload from happening if you're planning to save scum.
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By WhyattThrash on 28 Sep 2023 02:53
If I already refused to give the heart, is it too late? It gives me the option in the stargazer to give heart, and I was wonfering if that cloud save way could still apply... also can someone give a detailed how to delete the save and restore with cloud. I don't want to remove the wrong one.
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By MonkeyMan42698 on 28 Sep 2023 06:28
If anyone could chime in, i know of someone who went through the process offline then after getting their save back off the cloud the achievements never popped. I myself am on a xbox one and them a series x. I am unaware if that makes a difference, but ive successfully done this method a few times now and it worked out fine, so im not sure why it didnt work for them.
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By chris8079 on 28 Sep 2023 07:27
It worked fine for me. I think some people may not understand you don't go to the home screen and then delete the save. You bring up the guide, the game should still be running in the background. Select the game in the guide and select manage. then delete the save.
Now I just have beat the god damn Nameless puppet.
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By Tatakai no Kami on 29 Sep 2023 20:03
Tatakai no Kami We know how deleting saves work, the game just uploads to the Cloud randomly during play.
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By WhyattThrash on 29 Sep 2023 20:30
Tried it offline just to be safe but no achievements popped after synced :(
I had two files, was I not supposed to delete them both? (xbox one)
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By FruitofPassion on 29 Sep 2023 20:52
FruitofPassion You might need to go online just as you pop the cheevo and pray that you don’t happen to get a cloud upload. There doesn’t seem to be a reliable way to circumvent it.
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By WhyattThrash on 29 Sep 2023 21:04
Cloud save method definitely not work all the time. Just tried it and after you read Gepetto's letter(all 3 page) the game overwrites your previous Stargazer Geppeto save. I wish just used the "go offline" mode like chris8079 suggested. cry Now i had to do 2 other playthroughs.
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By M4ST3RCH13F19 on 29 Sep 2023 21:20
I had the complete opposite happen several times when trying different outcomes; the moment I’d quit to menu to trigger a cloud upload had not been saved at all, but instead I was reverted to a much earlier random point where I had definitely not quit to menu. Ymmv
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By WhyattThrash on 30 Sep 2023 03:52
Do i need to have GP Ultimate on my account to have cloud save?
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By Charlie Pe on 30 Sep 2023 16:21
@Charlie Pe - Nope! Anyone can do it, just need access to internet. If you’re curious on how it works, here’s a link to an Xbox FAQ. I’ll add This onto the guide too. https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/games-apps/game-setup-an...
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 30 Sep 2023 17:09
I went offline to make sure I don’t get an auto-save but then I forgot I was playing on Gamepass so I am forced to go online if I want to play.

Nvm, if you start the game before going offline, it works just fine.
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By Icarusael on 01 Oct 2023 15:00
Random update. I tried a second time offline and again, no achievements popped for me. Seems to be hit or miss but definitely worth trying it offline first for people. If then forced to try online, I was fortunate and it worked, but I booked it straight to gepetto's desk, picked up the letter, went through the pages, and did the delete immediately on achievement pop. Not worth risking it by going to do anything else (like piano or secret weapon - get those after nameless puppet)
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By FruitofPassion on 01 Oct 2023 21:01
Cloud save trick worked for me. I only skipped the credits.

Got this ending first and then the rise of p ending. It seemed to me that this ending is the neutral ending and rise of p is the bad ending.
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By SPΛΙΝΤΞRCΞΛΛ on 02 Oct 2023 15:27
I'm not sure how anyone got the stay online, delete your local save method to work. In my experience when trying to get multiple ending achievements like this, you HAVE to go offline to avoid the game uploading the save to the cloud (this means having your home xbox on your console to be able to play offline in the first place). Especially in soulslike games where the game remembers where you are upon quitting out.

In Lies of P, if the save icon ever shows in the top right corner, the game is saving to the cloud. This happens when you pick up the letter.
People that had this method work for them must not have picked up the letter or got lucky with the game not saving.
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By perfectXzerO on 02 Oct 2023 16:30
In Lies of P, if the save icon ever shows in the top right corner, the game is saving to the cloud. This happens when you pick up the letter.
Not always. It might, but it's not consistent at all.
It seemed to me that this ending is the neutral ending and rise of p is the bad ending.
Did you get it the other way around? This is very clearly the worst ending with Rise of P being the best possible.
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By WhyattThrash on 02 Oct 2023 16:48
No I got it like this guide is pointing. I just didn't understand the rise of p ending correctly since some people die in the ending
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By SPΛΙΝΤΞRCΞΛΛ on 02 Oct 2023 17:19
The only people that die in Rise of P that doesn’t in the others is
. In this ending,
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By WhyattThrash on 02 Oct 2023 19:09
@WhyattThrash - I was about to say the same thing. The thought of everyone in the hotel dying = the neutral ending is crazy! In Rise of P, we don't really know for sure if P died or not, he could just have exhausted himself reviving Sophia. Plus since we're more "human" than "Puppet" now, maybe we don't need Ergo to function like the other puppets.

What I personally think happened is that P gave Sofia enough Ergo to come back to life as a puppet. If we play P again in the DLC or the sequel, maybe that's how we get reset to 0, because we gave away all of our Ergo.
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 02 Oct 2023 20:31
Yeah i thought that gepetto was a good guy but it turns out he wasn't.
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By SPΛΙΝΤΞRCΞΛΛ on 02 Oct 2023 21:52
You thought Geppetto was a good guy? The guy who
That Geppetto?
we don't really know for sure if P died or not
We know he didn’t, the events that we keep playing after the ending if we don’t go to NG+ is after the ending. If P died, we’d just go straight to NG+ with no option to continue.
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By WhyattThrash on 02 Oct 2023 21:59
@WhyattThrash - At first I just chalked it up as game logic as many games bring you back before the last boss/point of no return.

But reading what you said and realizing that the final boss is not here, the letters, and the puppets of our companions of the Real Boy ending, it would be afterward the ending you just got. Plus, of course, our Gold Coin Fruit "friend" disappeared afterward as well.
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 02 Oct 2023 22:13
@Spicy Eggroll1 Also that if you keep playing after the "Real boy" ending
is a pretty big tell
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By WhyattThrash on 02 Oct 2023 22:16
I wasn’t able to get multiple endings 😭😭😭 I’m a bit heartbroken right now. Normally I have no issues getting this kind of thing to work, but today I had no luck.
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By Sniggleworth on 03 Oct 2023 06:17
I used both methed at once: synced the save before Geppetto, then gone offline and gave hearth, returned the hotel to play the tune.
Deleted the savegame, returned online and started from the final fight
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By zeno2k on 03 Oct 2023 06:58
it was great to read your comments about the Lore. You know, as an Italian, Pinocchio and Collodi are quite natural treasures for me (for us) and it's very, very different from the Disney's version... actually I think Lies of P did a great job with the lore and it's much more close to the dramatic real one than expected.
No frenzy puppet, of course... but the faire is a dead girl's ghost, Pinocchio dies because of cat and fox, and many other dramatic scenes...
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By zeno2k on 03 Oct 2023 07:04
Yeah while I’m not very familiar with the original tale, the lore of P is pretty neat.
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By WhyattThrash on 03 Oct 2023 07:34
I tried the cloud method while offline and after that the game loaded in the hotel, so I have to do another playthrough.
I'm pretty sure I didn't make mistakes follow the methods, so new players, keep this in mind
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By Fr4nji on 03 Oct 2023 18:40
This method worked no problem for me. Thumbs up.
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By GreatPotBandito on 05 Oct 2023 19:45
Games like dark souls and P will sync to cloud even if you don't exit sometimes but its total luck.

I have noticed that most games of this genre, fail to sync to cloud if you are streaming the game from Xbox to pc, via the Xbox app.

This happens because the internet is overwhelmed that moment, at least for me. So its worth to try to save scum while streaming.
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By SPΛΙΝΤΞRCΞΛΛ on 05 Oct 2023 21:39
Cloud Save Method + Offline worked fine here. Thanks.
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By l0n3w0lf DSG on 06 Oct 2023 12:00
How long does it usually take for the offline achievements to pop once back online?
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By FuzzyMartieQQQ on 08 Oct 2023 04:10
I went offline, gave the heart, played the piano, read the letter then deleted save from console directly from the guide. Went back online, and the game booted back up to the stargazer before the Simon fight, but the achievements didn't pop immediately.

How long should I wait before trying again?
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By Zohan2099 on 08 Oct 2023 16:23
@Zohan2099 same thing happened to me, it’s been over 24 hours and still nothing
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By FuzzyMartieQQQ on 08 Oct 2023 19:12
I didn't have the patience to wait lol, stayed online, went down, gave the heart, game over, back to the hotel, read the note, then did the save scum. Happy to say that it worked perfectly, I'm back at the stargazer with the achievements popped.
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By Zohan2099 on 08 Oct 2023 19:38
Worked like a charm! In offline mode, the achievements didn't 'pop', but when I got back online they were unlocked for me!
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By Coen NL on 10 Oct 2023 07:34
Did the online method and it worked perfectly, not sure why some didn't get it to work. Probably messed up one of the steps.
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By C11H22O11 on 12 Oct 2023 15:56
The Cloud Save method won't work if you are playing on Game Pass will it? I love the game, but not really in the mood to play it 3 times.
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By Lv99ron on 13 Oct 2023 15:48
This cloud save method did not work for me after following the steps exactly. I'm on version 1.2.0.0
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By Skwidman on 14 Oct 2023 08:48
The game does seem to upload to the cloud if you take to long after the ending mopping up the other achievements related to the ending your on. Tested with my rise of p ending. So to avoid that the safest way to go about it will be:

Do rise of p ending first and get all the other achievements related to that.

Then with ng+ do your free from the puppet strings ending(make a cloud save at the stargazer at final boss), the achievement will pop just as the credits start to roll and you can do the cloud save method.

Then you will be back before the boss fight and can give your hart for real boy ending and the other achievement related to that.

Just did it this way with gamepass version.
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By Rayvunous on 15 Oct 2023 14:03
Just tried this online and when I deleted the save and reloaded the game I started back in the hotel now there's no way to try again.
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By Greenchief22 on 20 Oct 2023 01:15
tried the offline method and worked perfectly. achievements popped right away after relaunching game online. note, after like 5 or so minutes of no active internet for w.e. reason i get an xbox error kicking me from the game even though its installed local, so make sure you skip all dialogue and credit scene, and quickly cancel on the NG+. then run to the desk and just skip through all the pages of the letter JIC, should be just enough time to beat the disconnect and then proceed to deleting your local save
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By KingOfReckoning on 21 Oct 2023 17:03
Just tried this online and when I deleted the save and reloaded the game I started back in the hotel now there's no way to try again. (2)
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By BlurmoreBR on 21 Oct 2023 20:10
Hello everyone! Just wanted to comment down here that I'm glad that this has been helpful and that the majority of those who have tried have been successful. I know that this has failed for some, but currently, cloud saving does work, and I can guess that the down-votes are from unsuccessful attempts.

For anyone who hasn't done it yet, I recommend you read through the guide fully and the comments for the best insight. Especially about trying it offline and speeding through to avoid auto-saves or any other mishaps.
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 21 Oct 2023 21:40
Just tried this online and when I deleted the save and reloaded the game I started back in the hotel now there's no way to try again. (3)
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By Biomasterhazard on 22 Oct 2023 21:07
I think part of the downvotes is that the solution contains misinformation like the quote from FrankCastle492 saying the game only performs cloud uploads when quitting the game. Which much of the playerbase now knows for a fact is incorrect.

I realize it’s hard to make recommendations when the game’s so unpredictable, but it would probably be a good idea to mention explicitly that the game does perform periodic cloud uploads without user interaction. The safest way to go for the achievements are to 1) try offline or 2) go about it real fast if offline doesn’t work, but be aware that might lead to the game uploading a save on its own and there’s not much to be done about it.
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By WhyattThrash on 23 Oct 2023 16:36
@WhyattThrash - Thanks for the insight! When I initially made the guide, it was just explaining how to get this particular ending. But then FrankCastle492 confirmed that cloud saving worked, and so the guide expanded on that, and everyone else's ideas.

Also, thanks for pointing out the error in his statement, I didn't catch that myself and might have missed that if anyone else mentioned it prior. Although I would be surprised if that's what the downvotes are for! I've mentioned doing it offline and quickly, but noticed people might be missing that if I'm reading the comments right. I should stress that it should be done that way, and I'll add what you just said on the top for the best visual.
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 23 Oct 2023 21:35
I think the error people make is "quit the game" I don't think people realize you mean hit the dashboard button and select "Quit Game" Tried the method today and it works 10000% got two endings in one file. People are just mad they can't read. Great solution!
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By Steaksaucepie on 24 Oct 2023 03:30
Thanks it worked, Got it on gamepass with this solution! Lie Playthrough

Sat at the stargazer, Exit the game for a cloud save
loaded up, refused heart -> beat nameless pupped, trade ergo for weapon
listened to 1 song fully to get full humanity -> read the letter on table ->
took golden lie from the picture

afterwards i deleted the profile from console and the game forced a quit. cloud save downloaded and i could give heart -> read letter from table and played the piano
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By MiNDmaZing on 24 Oct 2023 07:32
To the people saying that “cloud save worked for me so if it didn’t you must have made a mistake”, I’d suggest that you look up the meaning of “survivorship bias” if we didn’t already have so much evidence of inability to learn from reading
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By WhyattThrash on 24 Oct 2023 12:27
@MiNDmaZing - Glad it worked for you! If you don't mind, I will add your version of the steps to the guide. Just in case people want another example of how's it done aside from FrankCastle492's version.
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 24 Oct 2023 18:40
I actually made it twice cause i missed to trade the ergo, i could delete the profile twice and resync from cloud. So it definitely works if you do these steps. It took me also a half an hour to kill nameless and it didnt overwrite the cloudsave
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By MiNDmaZing on 24 Oct 2023 18:40
Sure you can add it
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By MiNDmaZing on 24 Oct 2023 18:42
I used Frank's method and it worked a charm! Thanks for the tip ☺️
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By ScarletRotXI on 25 Oct 2023 18:16
I don't know where I went wrong, but it didn't work for me. I killed Nameless Puppet while offline. Then, after the credits, I pressed B and got the Sophia and Special Weapon achievements. Thing is, the achievements just don't pop while you're offline. So, I went to the dashboard, went online, and then the achievements popped. Thing is, in the very same moment a save was uploaded into the cloud, even though I was on the dashboard.

I was afraid to delete the physical saves, as I thought in that case the achievements wouldn't have a chance to register. Maybe I should have done so? Not sure, though.
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By Ich Bin Viele on 27 Oct 2023 21:39
the thing about "periodic cloud uploads" is incorrect, lies of p save is uploaded to cloud only when you close the game, this should be more clear in this guide cause theres a lot of people here afraid of messing up and lose their saves or end up in need to make a 3rd run.

MiNDmaZing method seems to be the only one working now, just got 2 endings in 1 run doing exactly what he said and whitout going offline at all (tried going offline method once and had no success)

- activate and use the last stargazer before talking to gepeto.

- close the game so your save get uploaded to cloud

- start game again, give your hearth to gepeto and get the ending achievement, do not go into NG+, when back at hotel krat go to gepeto desk and get the letter for a second achievement.

- once you get the letter DO NOT CLOSE THE GAME, just dashboard and delete both game saved data (profile and reserved) you will get a message warning telling you that this action will force the game to close, confirm it and delete your saved data.

-start game again and your cloud save from before will be downloaded taking you back to the stargazer, refuse to give your hearth kill nameless puppet and you will get your missing ending.
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By AndreiMaxSLD on 03 Nov 2023 04:47
AndreiMaxSLD quit the game to make a cloud upload, then play the game as normal for half an hour, an hour (grab some new stargazers, defeat some bosses etc), then delete your cloud save. You will have a cloud upload from some random point during play that was NOT from when you quit the game.

I have no idea what triggers it, but the game 100% performs random cloud uploads during normal play, as plenty of people have pointed out.
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By WhyattThrash on 03 Nov 2023 06:17
Xbox does random cloud saves, so I will try the offline method here's hoping lol
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By Lucky Eag1e on 03 Nov 2023 11:57
I done the first ending via the offline method, anyone know how long it takes for those achievements to come through after I have come back online?
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By Lucky Eag1e on 03 Nov 2023 12:02
@WhyattThrash you obviously have zero reasons to be hanging around after credits if you only looking for the achievements, just dashboard right after grabing the letter and do the process, i had success with this method as well as other players from what i heard, so whatever is being done in this method is not trigering the cloud upload at all.

and how do i tag a person here btw? ty in advance.
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By AndreiMaxSLD on 03 Nov 2023 14:40
I don't know what I did wrong but the reload method completely failed for me. I was going for the "free from the puppet string" ending first. So I went offline and killed NP, skipped the credits, played the piano, then dashboarded and deleted my local save. Went back online and reloaded the game and it put me back in Hotel Krat post-NP with no achievements. So not only was I not able to reload to get the human achievement, I didn't get the achievement for letting Sophia live and killing NP. Looks like I need to do two more playthroughs.
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By Gamer0364 on 03 Nov 2023 18:52
I deleted the save immediately after collecting the letter and it didn't work. I reloaded my save right after the letter. The cloud save must have synced
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By Pebster on 04 Nov 2023 02:53
Glad I saw this, as I screwed up my first playthrough ( all lies ) when I let Sophia live, didn't really want to play 2 more times so this was a time saver. The cloud method listed by FrankCastle worked perfectly, The only problem was i had to kill Manus again, but that's on me I think, as I repaired the Stargazer by Gepetto but didn't use it. But as of Nov 6 the cloud method works, thanks once again!!
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By Azrael0403 on 06 Nov 2023 09:41
I tried the offline method for the Real Boy ending, as well as going for the Pianist and One Father achievements, but none of the achievements ever popped after coming back online (I did delete the console save prior to coming back online). Is there something I did wrong? Has anyone gotten the offline method to work?

EDIT: I tried this the next day and I got it to work. The only difference was I was online when rebooting the game and went offline after it was booted again.
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By AJBrey on 09 Nov 2023 19:01
After the offline method failed for me, in my second playthrough I tried again by using FrankCastle's instructions. This time it thankfully worked! I think one mistake last time may have been that I deleted the harddrive saves from the dashboard and not while still in the game.
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By Ich Bin Viele on 13 Nov 2023 19:22
Just got this achievement using the offline method. First time I tried, I started the game offline, did the requirements of 3 achievements. Deleted the local save and reserved space. When I went back online, nothing happened. Second time, started the game while online, went offline at the Stargazer before Geppetto. Did the requirements for the same 3 achievements, deleted the save and reserved space. When I went back online, the achievements unlocked without even opening the game. When I reloaded the game, it resynced my save and I was back at the Stargazer.

In addition, I think the online method might work just as well, the only reason I didn't go for it is because I actually couldn't go back to an earlier save to get something I missed using that method. And I hadn't gone to the dashboard. Just deleted the save and reserved space using the sidebar menu. However, I actually hit the xbox button a few times while making up my mind on what to do, so that might have triggered a save upload. Just sharing my experience anyways. (v. 1.3.0.0).
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By whitop on 17 Nov 2023 19:42
@whitop, it worked. I did it. Thank you.
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By SkyWalker Leo on 25 Nov 2023 07:01
Can confirm method of going online then offline when in game to get one ending works
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By decapitated dan on 25 Nov 2023 07:26
Online method worked for me as of Dec 7 2023, repaired gepetto stargazer then quit to main menu, dashboarded and highlighted the game and hard quit the game app. Then loaded it up gave him the heart skipped credits ran upstairs got the letter then pressed the guide button highlighted lies of P press start "manage game and addons" --> saved data --> delete all --> confirm delete all

It kicked me out of the game and when I loaded it up I was back at the gepetto stargazer. Also when I picked the letter up there was the save icon (as well as multiple save icons as I was doing the bad ending) but it didnt matter because it still loaded the cloud save at the stargazer.

I think what a lot of people are doing wrong is when you pick up the letter you have to bring up the guide and force delete the save while the app is still running, if you dashboard and then highlight the game to delete the save it updates the cloud save as soon as you dashboard. That or maybe it does do periodic saves and people are just being too slow to finish the ending and go get the letter and then quickly delete the save data.
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By Elite Mouse on 07 Dec 2023 07:33
Did everything as instructed and it didn’t work, so looks like the whole playthrough was a waste of time trying to lie. Don’t bother trying this guys you’ll just fuck your save up.
Not worth 3 play throughs so this is very frustrating that it didn’t work! Honestly feel so disheartened that I don’t even want to do a 2nd as I assume there is no way to get that save back now 🙄
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By Rhynozerker on 08 Dec 2023 12:09
I tried the cloud save and now the playthrough was a bit of a waste. What makes it worse it that I did everything on my first playthrough, but I accidentally reset the playthrough because I didn't realize there was stuff after until it was too late. Then on my second playthrough, I tried the cloud save method, but it didn't work. So now I have to play through 2 more times if I want to %100. I regret not hitting b instead of resetting. I love the game, but man it just kinda sucks.
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By feastuponthecat on 12 Dec 2023 23:57
Didn't work for me either. I deleted the save which force quit the game but when I restarted the game I was standing in front of Gepetto's desk.
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By Tuschi on 17 Dec 2023 15:03
Got it to work with the offline method, never popped at first but I deleted the save then restarted the game before going back online then got to the menu went back online quit out the game and when I restarted game it asked if I wanted to use save from either console or cloud, I chose cloud and 2 achievements popped.. I restarted at the stargazer before Geppetto thankfully as this game is great but i never wanted an extra playthrough.
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By Colzzh on 31 Dec 2023 12:51
Got it to work with the offline method, never popped at first but I deleted the save then restarted the game before going back online then got to the menu went back online quit out the game and when I restarted game it asked if I wanted to use save from either console or cloud, I chose cloud and 2 achievements popped.. I restarted at the stargazer before Geppetto thankfully as this game is great but i never wanted an extra playthrough.
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By Colzzh on 31 Dec 2023 12:53
For me the online one didnt work. I followed the instructions clearly but was confused that at many steps the autosave icon popped up, like after giving the heart in the cutscene, when the credits started, when appearing in the hotel and while reading the letter before the achievement popped. Then i deleted my savefile, startezd the game again and got a message about not closing the game the right way the last time i played and continued in front of the desk. So i have to play another playthrough.. Well.
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By LightningSoule on 03 Jan 2024 23:47
Online DOES work. Was playing Sekiro just before this so the method was fresh on my mind. I made my cloud save before even going down the elevator after defeating Simon. You do this back pressing start, and quitting out to the game's main menu. Continued game from there, got ending and achievements and all you do is this:

MAKE SURE YOUR GAME IS RUNNING after you get your final achievement for whatever you're doing > hit Xbox button > hover Lies of P > Menu button > Manage game > Saved data > Click your gamertag > Delete from console > Resume Lies of P. You should then be forced to load the game back to the main menu, just hit continue, and you should be back at wherever you made your cloud save. Literally just worked for me. If you've played a From Software game, you've done this before..
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By Gotham Rises on 06 Jan 2024 10:41
Going offline, doing it, deleting the save, going back online didnt unlock any of them for me. I am not risking doing it online just yet because I dont want a third playthrough
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By Mike Langlois on 07 Jan 2024 00:53
Offline method didn't work for me either, I tried 2 times already. V 1.4
Maybe they patched it.

Went offline, started at stargazer, gave the heart, cancelled new game plus, got the letter from the coin fruit tree guy, and Gepetto,
deleted the save game from the sidebar, game restarts, went back online, opened the game, restored from cloud, no achievements popped up and back to same spot.

I loved the game, but not willing to do multiple playthroughs. Next game!
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By KillerDarkWolf2 on 07 Jan 2024 03:16
Did you both start the game in online and only go offline after having loaded your game? People have suggested they’ve had better luck getting the unlocks after restoring when doing it that way.
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By WhyattThrash on 07 Jan 2024 08:51
After reading all these comments, and the intermittent nature both a) earning achievements offline and then not unlocking when going back on, or b) earning them online and having a background sync occur so being able to quit and restore the prior save, I tested another method.

I haven't tested this with the endings as I am not that far through yet, but was able to successfully do this mid game to verify the process. Note this requires the use of another console/pc/cloud:

- Console A: Primary Console/PC
- Console B: Alternate Console/PC or cloud

- A: Save game at point which to return to, quit to title, and then exit game normally. Allow a few minutes for cloud sync to finish, and then go offline
- B: Load game which will sync cloud save, and then continue playing online, completing whichever actions/ending required, unlocking achievements as normal
- A: To roll back to previous save, while still offline, load the game and accept the warning about no network connection. Continue your previous save which will be at the point you want to return to, fast travel somewhere to create a new save and then quit to title, exit again. Now restore the network connection and re-launch the game, you will get a conflict message, and ask which save you want to keep, local or cloud. Keep your local save, and this will then replace your cloud save with your local progress and you can continue as normal

I will update again in a few days when I get to the end.
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By Katsuri on 07 Jan 2024 21:07
Whitop's guide a dozen comments up worked perfectly, with no risk of accidentally over-writing your save file. Works as of 1/8/24
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By ShadowEchelon91 on 08 Jan 2024 14:57
I just did a second attempt following Whitops guide as suggested and that worked. Got this achievement, loaded back in and ready to fight nameless puppet for the last one
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By Mike Langlois on 08 Jan 2024 22:46
I can confirm the online method as described by Gotham Rises above works perfectly as of 10/1/24, I had also used it to get Sekiro's endings previously so was familiar with the method already, got Real Boy then deleted the console save, went back onto the game and it put me back in front of Geppetto, refused, killed Nameless Puppet and got Rise of P all in the space of 10 minutes.
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By Yhannos on 10 Jan 2024 18:04
If you don't plan on using the cloud save exploit, do this ending last, as you won't have to fight the Nameless Puppet on NG+2. And NG+ feels much more difficult than in other Souls games, so I really would try to get your endings with any of the cloud save methods, and not play through the game 3 times like I did!
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By Rory 1201 on 22 Feb 2024 03:48
I just did Whitops method for offline and this worked v1.5.0.0 (14th April 2024). The only difference for me was the achievements didn’t overtly pop on screen, but they had quietly done so in the menu’s after I went back online.
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By corpirate on 14 Apr 2024 22:46
April 16 whitops method still valid and working - rest at stargazer at bottom of elevator after defeating manus, exit game to create cloud save, load back up the game, go offline, kill nameless puppet, delete save data off console during the credits without closing the game, go back online, now you’re back at stargazer before talking to geppetto :D
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By vShockzi on 16 Apr 2024 21:38
VShockzi got this right! Just followed the instructions and everything unlocked just fine. Doing ending 2 now and then onto NG +
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By I Sphyre I on 05 Jun 2024 18:49
July 2024, I just followed Whitop's tips above and the offline method. I was going for both the Real Boy and the Free from puppet strings in my second playthrough so i needed my save point to be before the choice with Sophia.
- Making sure i had a cloud save just prior to the Sophia choice i disconnected from the internet without shutting the game down.
- Ran through to the end and gave heart to Geppetto. Once i collected his letter I didn't close the game down and deleted the save and reserve space.
- Plugged the internet back in and the achievements popped in the background almost straight away. Loaded back in back to the Sophia save point to chase the 3rd ending.
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By Camerz31 on 04 Jul 2024 06:15
This did not work on PC =\
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By DarcTheDad on 18 Aug 2024 08:45
as of Nov 16, FrankCastle492's solution worked just fine. i even added in playing the piano and had zero issues. pressing the xbox button and deleting the save file from the pop-up sidebar (as he outlines in his solution) doesn't trigger a save upload, but dashboarding does. once the home menu loads you're having your save overwritten. That's probably be why so many people aren't having this work.
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By Decaying Dead on 16 Nov 2023 20:57
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Cloud Save Method (Console/Game Pass) At the very bottom! Get 2 out of 3 endings in 1 playthrough! Read through the guide carefully and have a look at the comments for the best insight! I can not provide any assistance if it does not work.

Important Note from WhyattThrash - The game does perform periodic cloud uploads without user interaction. The safest way to go for the achievements are to 1) try offline or 2) go about it real fast if offline doesn’t work, but be aware that might lead to the game uploading a save on its own and there’s not much to be done about it.

Here's a guide for all lie/truth choices/gaining humanity in the game, Created by WhyattThrash - Telling truth/lies scenarios and gaining Humanity (SPOILERS)

Xbox FAQ on how cloud saves work - https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/games-apps/game-setup-an...

After beating the "final" boss Simon Manus in Chapter 11, you will meet with Geppetto. He wants you to give him your heart, and you have two choices, "refuse" or "Give the Heart". To get this ending you must give Geppetto your heart. Your choices of telling the truth or lies throughout the game do not matter for this ending, and will only take effect if you refuse to give your heart.

Don't go into New Game+ after the credits. Doing this ending will also give you an additional achievement! Don't restart your game to return to Hotel Krat, and read the note at Geppetto's desk.


Lies of PThe Story of One FatherThe The Story of One Father achievement in Lies of P worth 53 pointsFind out about the last story of Geppetto.


Additionally, if you're on your Lie/Humanity playthrough -

Lies of PThe Story of the Blue ButterflyThe The Story of the Blue Butterfly achievement in Lies of P worth 49 pointsFind out about the last story of Sophia.


Interact with the portrait to get the Golden Lie special weapon

Lies of PSpecial Weapon CollectorThe Special Weapon Collector achievement in Lies of P worth 115 pointsCollect all special weapons.


If you refuse, you will fight the true final boss "Nameless Puppet", and will get the ending based on if you -

Mostly lied ("Rise of P")

Lies of PSecret AchievementThe Secret Achievement achievement in Lies of P worth 229 pointsContinue playing to unlock this secret achievement


Mostly told the truth ("Free of the Puppet Strings").

Lies of PSecret AchievementThe Secret Achievement achievement in Lies of P worth 233 pointsContinue playing to unlock this secret achievement


Cloud Save Method (Console only) - By doing this method you can get 2 endings in 1 playthrough! You can get "Real Boy" by giving Geppetto your heart, AND either "Rise of P" or "Free of the Puppet Strings" by refusing depending on your truth and lie choices throughout the game.

Offline tip by chris8079 - For anyone who doesn't wanna risk messing up, you can just make sure you save uploads and then go offline before getting this achievement. Afterwards, just delete your save and go back online to sync it back up before fighting the nameless puppet.

Cloud Save Method used by Gotham Rises -

MAKE SURE YOUR GAME IS RUNNING after you get your final achievement for whatever you're doing > hit Xbox button > hover Lies of P > Menu button > Manage game > Saved data > Click your gamertag > Delete from console > Resume Lies of P. You should then be forced to load the game back to the main menu, just hit continue, and you should be back at wherever you made your cloud save. Literally just worked for me. If you've played a From Software game, you've done this before..

Cloud Save Method used by FrankCastle492 -

Sit at the Stargazer before speaking to Geppetto.
-Quit your game (On the dashboard) so your save uploads to the cloud.
-Start the game up again, and give him your heart, then after the credits you can get the letter from his study to complete his story.
-After that stand still and press the guide button, highlight the game and press start, go to manage add-ons, go to saved data, and delete your save from the console only this will force close the game.
-When you load up the game, it will download your cloud save, and you'll be back at the Stargazer before Geppetto and can do one of the other two endings.

Cloud Save Method used by MiNDmaZing -

Sat at the stargazer, Exit the game for a cloud save
loaded up, refused heart -> beat nameless pupped, trade ergo for weapon
listened to 1 song fully to get full humanity -> read the letter on table ->
took golden lie from the picture

Afterwards i deleted the profile from console and the game forced a quit. cloud save downloaded and i could give heart -> read letter from table and played the piano
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103 Comments
So can you do two endings on one playthrough by repeating the final boss and choosing a different option?
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By FrankCastle492 on 25 Sep 2023 20:03
@FrankCastle492 - Unfortunately not, only 1 ending per play-through. However, I have read that people on Steam and PlayStation were able to make a cloud/backup save before the boss to get the other ending. It could be possible on Xbox/PC/Game pass, but I'm not sure/have not seen it done for Xbox.
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 25 Sep 2023 20:13
I can confirm it's possible to use the usual method as always on Xbox, at the last save point before speaking to Geppetto.
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By FrankCastle492 on 25 Sep 2023 22:49
@FrankCastle492 - That’ll definitely be a time saver! I’m not familiar with the method you mentioned, are you able to explain or link to a resource? I can add that to the guide! Apologies, I've never messed around with saves and back ups before!
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 25 Sep 2023 23:30
This with the Xbox 360, it didn't happen
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By L3oD4sMod3ll on 26 Sep 2023 00:04
so either it's possible to not get either ending and I got a different one or my achievement glitched lol
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By Nicrotix on 26 Sep 2023 00:45
Cloud save method did not work.. 👎 Followed it exactly but the game saves when you pick up and read the letter from his desk and puts you back there when you reload. Now I wasted my chance to fight the nameless puppet big rip 😠
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By TheJJRambo on 26 Sep 2023 09:37
@TheJJRambo you probably did something wrong because it worked for me.
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By Caranthial on 26 Sep 2023 13:02
@TheJJRambo - I’m really sorry to hear about that. The method seems to work as @Caranthial - did it successfully. Again, sorry to inconvenience you, I know playing through the game at least 3 times sucks. @FrankCastle492 - Would you know any points of failure for the cloud save to not work? Or maybe it was just an error on his side.
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 26 Sep 2023 16:14
This is not my first time using this method so I don't think I did anything wrong. Like I said I went back to geppetos office to pick up his letter. The problem is the achievement doesn't pop until you open your inventory and read the letter, and whenever you do that the game creates a new save (saving icon appears in top right) and thus gets rid of your previous save before you talk to geppeto
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By TheJJRambo on 26 Sep 2023 18:48
The cloud save scum works, I was able to open the letter, i just hit the back button when i picked it up i didnt open my inventory but i doubt it clouds saves when u open the inventory anyways i think the other guy just messes up somehow like accidentally went to the stargaser first.
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By SafeSquare93948 on 26 Sep 2023 20:21
For anyone who doesnt wanna risk messing up, you can just make sure your save uploads then go offline before getting this achievement. Afterwards just delete your save and go back online to sync it back up before fighting the nameless puppet
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By chris8079 on 27 Sep 2023 04:48
@chris8079 - Thanks for the comment, I'll add that to the guide! Reducing any potential mishaps will help!
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 27 Sep 2023 05:11
It doesn't matter if the game saves, it doesn't upload to the cloud until you quit the game. The only place you can make a mistake is if before deleting your save, you dashboarded out and quit the game, as you need to delete the save while the game is still running in the background.
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By FrankCastle492 on 27 Sep 2023 21:16
This game doesn't seem to upload to cloud at the start screen like most other games, but at random intervals during play. So as suggested, you should go offline to prevent a cloud upload from happening if you're planning to save scum.
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By WhyattThrash on 28 Sep 2023 02:53
If I already refused to give the heart, is it too late? It gives me the option in the stargazer to give heart, and I was wonfering if that cloud save way could still apply... also can someone give a detailed how to delete the save and restore with cloud. I don't want to remove the wrong one.
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By MonkeyMan42698 on 28 Sep 2023 06:28
If anyone could chime in, i know of someone who went through the process offline then after getting their save back off the cloud the achievements never popped. I myself am on a xbox one and them a series x. I am unaware if that makes a difference, but ive successfully done this method a few times now and it worked out fine, so im not sure why it didnt work for them.
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By chris8079 on 28 Sep 2023 07:27
It worked fine for me. I think some people may not understand you don't go to the home screen and then delete the save. You bring up the guide, the game should still be running in the background. Select the game in the guide and select manage. then delete the save.
Now I just have beat the god damn Nameless puppet.
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By Tatakai no Kami on 29 Sep 2023 20:03
Tatakai no Kami We know how deleting saves work, the game just uploads to the Cloud randomly during play.
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By WhyattThrash on 29 Sep 2023 20:30
Tried it offline just to be safe but no achievements popped after synced :(
I had two files, was I not supposed to delete them both? (xbox one)
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By FruitofPassion on 29 Sep 2023 20:52
FruitofPassion You might need to go online just as you pop the cheevo and pray that you don’t happen to get a cloud upload. There doesn’t seem to be a reliable way to circumvent it.
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By WhyattThrash on 29 Sep 2023 21:04
Cloud save method definitely not work all the time. Just tried it and after you read Gepetto's letter(all 3 page) the game overwrites your previous Stargazer Geppeto save. I wish just used the "go offline" mode like chris8079 suggested. cry Now i had to do 2 other playthroughs.
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By M4ST3RCH13F19 on 29 Sep 2023 21:20
I had the complete opposite happen several times when trying different outcomes; the moment I’d quit to menu to trigger a cloud upload had not been saved at all, but instead I was reverted to a much earlier random point where I had definitely not quit to menu. Ymmv
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By WhyattThrash on 30 Sep 2023 03:52
Do i need to have GP Ultimate on my account to have cloud save?
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By Charlie Pe on 30 Sep 2023 16:21
I went offline to make sure I don’t get an auto-save but then I forgot I was playing on Gamepass so I am forced to go online if I want to play.

Nvm, if you start the game before going offline, it works just fine.
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By Icarusael on 01 Oct 2023 15:00
Random update. I tried a second time offline and again, no achievements popped for me. Seems to be hit or miss but definitely worth trying it offline first for people. If then forced to try online, I was fortunate and it worked, but I booked it straight to gepetto's desk, picked up the letter, went through the pages, and did the delete immediately on achievement pop. Not worth risking it by going to do anything else (like piano or secret weapon - get those after nameless puppet)
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By FruitofPassion on 01 Oct 2023 21:01
Cloud save trick worked for me. I only skipped the credits.

Got this ending first and then the rise of p ending. It seemed to me that this ending is the neutral ending and rise of p is the bad ending.
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By SPΛΙΝΤΞRCΞΛΛ on 02 Oct 2023 15:27
In Lies of P, if the save icon ever shows in the top right corner, the game is saving to the cloud. This happens when you pick up the letter.
Not always. It might, but it's not consistent at all.
It seemed to me that this ending is the neutral ending and rise of p is the bad ending.
Did you get it the other way around? This is very clearly the worst ending with Rise of P being the best possible.
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By WhyattThrash on 02 Oct 2023 16:48
No I got it like this guide is pointing. I just didn't understand the rise of p ending correctly since some people die in the ending
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By SPΛΙΝΤΞRCΞΛΛ on 02 Oct 2023 17:19
The only people that die in Rise of P that doesn’t in the others is
. In this ending,
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By WhyattThrash on 02 Oct 2023 19:09
@WhyattThrash - I was about to say the same thing. The thought of everyone in the hotel dying = the neutral ending is crazy! In Rise of P, we don't really know for sure if P died or not, he could just have exhausted himself reviving Sophia. Plus since we're more "human" than "Puppet" now, maybe we don't need Ergo to function like the other puppets.

What I personally think happened is that P gave Sofia enough Ergo to come back to life as a puppet. If we play P again in the DLC or the sequel, maybe that's how we get reset to 0, because we gave away all of our Ergo.
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 02 Oct 2023 20:31
Yeah i thought that gepetto was a good guy but it turns out he wasn't.
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By SPΛΙΝΤΞRCΞΛΛ on 02 Oct 2023 21:52
You thought Geppetto was a good guy? The guy who
That Geppetto?
we don't really know for sure if P died or not
We know he didn’t, the events that we keep playing after the ending if we don’t go to NG+ is after the ending. If P died, we’d just go straight to NG+ with no option to continue.
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By WhyattThrash on 02 Oct 2023 21:59
@WhyattThrash - At first I just chalked it up as game logic as many games bring you back before the last boss/point of no return.

But reading what you said and realizing that the final boss is not here, the letters, and the puppets of our companions of the Real Boy ending, it would be afterward the ending you just got. Plus, of course, our Gold Coin Fruit "friend" disappeared afterward as well.
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 02 Oct 2023 22:13
@Spicy Eggroll1 Also that if you keep playing after the "Real boy" ending
is a pretty big tell
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By WhyattThrash on 02 Oct 2023 22:16
I wasn’t able to get multiple endings 😭😭😭 I’m a bit heartbroken right now. Normally I have no issues getting this kind of thing to work, but today I had no luck.
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By Sniggleworth on 03 Oct 2023 06:17
I used both methed at once: synced the save before Geppetto, then gone offline and gave hearth, returned the hotel to play the tune.
Deleted the savegame, returned online and started from the final fight
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By zeno2k on 03 Oct 2023 06:58
I tried the cloud method while offline and after that the game loaded in the hotel, so I have to do another playthrough.
I'm pretty sure I didn't make mistakes follow the methods, so new players, keep this in mind
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By Fr4nji on 03 Oct 2023 18:40
This method worked no problem for me. Thumbs up.
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By GreatPotBandito on 05 Oct 2023 19:45
Games like dark souls and P will sync to cloud even if you don't exit sometimes but its total luck.

I have noticed that most games of this genre, fail to sync to cloud if you are streaming the game from Xbox to pc, via the Xbox app.

This happens because the internet is overwhelmed that moment, at least for me. So its worth to try to save scum while streaming.
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By SPΛΙΝΤΞRCΞΛΛ on 05 Oct 2023 21:39
Cloud Save Method + Offline worked fine here. Thanks.
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By l0n3w0lf DSG on 06 Oct 2023 12:00
How long does it usually take for the offline achievements to pop once back online?
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By FuzzyMartieQQQ on 08 Oct 2023 04:10
I went offline, gave the heart, played the piano, read the letter then deleted save from console directly from the guide. Went back online, and the game booted back up to the stargazer before the Simon fight, but the achievements didn't pop immediately.

How long should I wait before trying again?
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By Zohan2099 on 08 Oct 2023 16:23
@Zohan2099 same thing happened to me, it’s been over 24 hours and still nothing
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By FuzzyMartieQQQ on 08 Oct 2023 19:12
I didn't have the patience to wait lol, stayed online, went down, gave the heart, game over, back to the hotel, read the note, then did the save scum. Happy to say that it worked perfectly, I'm back at the stargazer with the achievements popped.
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By Zohan2099 on 08 Oct 2023 19:38
Worked like a charm! In offline mode, the achievements didn't 'pop', but when I got back online they were unlocked for me!
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By Coen NL on 10 Oct 2023 07:34
Did the online method and it worked perfectly, not sure why some didn't get it to work. Probably messed up one of the steps.
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By C11H22O11 on 12 Oct 2023 15:56
The Cloud Save method won't work if you are playing on Game Pass will it? I love the game, but not really in the mood to play it 3 times.
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By Lv99ron on 13 Oct 2023 15:48
This cloud save method did not work for me after following the steps exactly. I'm on version 1.2.0.0
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By Skwidman on 14 Oct 2023 08:48
The game does seem to upload to the cloud if you take to long after the ending mopping up the other achievements related to the ending your on. Tested with my rise of p ending. So to avoid that the safest way to go about it will be:

Do rise of p ending first and get all the other achievements related to that.

Then with ng+ do your free from the puppet strings ending(make a cloud save at the stargazer at final boss), the achievement will pop just as the credits start to roll and you can do the cloud save method.

Then you will be back before the boss fight and can give your hart for real boy ending and the other achievement related to that.

Just did it this way with gamepass version.
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By Rayvunous on 15 Oct 2023 14:03
Just tried this online and when I deleted the save and reloaded the game I started back in the hotel now there's no way to try again.
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By Greenchief22 on 20 Oct 2023 01:15
tried the offline method and worked perfectly. achievements popped right away after relaunching game online. note, after like 5 or so minutes of no active internet for w.e. reason i get an xbox error kicking me from the game even though its installed local, so make sure you skip all dialogue and credit scene, and quickly cancel on the NG+. then run to the desk and just skip through all the pages of the letter JIC, should be just enough time to beat the disconnect and then proceed to deleting your local save
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By KingOfReckoning on 21 Oct 2023 17:03
Just tried this online and when I deleted the save and reloaded the game I started back in the hotel now there's no way to try again. (2)
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By BlurmoreBR on 21 Oct 2023 20:10
Hello everyone! Just wanted to comment down here that I'm glad that this has been helpful and that the majority of those who have tried have been successful. I know that this has failed for some, but currently, cloud saving does work, and I can guess that the down-votes are from unsuccessful attempts.

For anyone who hasn't done it yet, I recommend you read through the guide fully and the comments for the best insight. Especially about trying it offline and speeding through to avoid auto-saves or any other mishaps.
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 21 Oct 2023 21:40
Just tried this online and when I deleted the save and reloaded the game I started back in the hotel now there's no way to try again. (3)
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By Biomasterhazard on 22 Oct 2023 21:07
@WhyattThrash - Thanks for the insight! When I initially made the guide, it was just explaining how to get this particular ending. But then FrankCastle492 confirmed that cloud saving worked, and so the guide expanded on that, and everyone else's ideas.

Also, thanks for pointing out the error in his statement, I didn't catch that myself and might have missed that if anyone else mentioned it prior. Although I would be surprised if that's what the downvotes are for! I've mentioned doing it offline and quickly, but noticed people might be missing that if I'm reading the comments right. I should stress that it should be done that way, and I'll add what you just said on the top for the best visual.
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 23 Oct 2023 21:35
I think the error people make is "quit the game" I don't think people realize you mean hit the dashboard button and select "Quit Game" Tried the method today and it works 10000% got two endings in one file. People are just mad they can't read. Great solution!
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By Steaksaucepie on 24 Oct 2023 03:30
Thanks it worked, Got it on gamepass with this solution! Lie Playthrough

Sat at the stargazer, Exit the game for a cloud save
loaded up, refused heart -> beat nameless pupped, trade ergo for weapon
listened to 1 song fully to get full humanity -> read the letter on table ->
took golden lie from the picture

afterwards i deleted the profile from console and the game forced a quit. cloud save downloaded and i could give heart -> read letter from table and played the piano
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By MiNDmaZing on 24 Oct 2023 07:32
To the people saying that “cloud save worked for me so if it didn’t you must have made a mistake”, I’d suggest that you look up the meaning of “survivorship bias” if we didn’t already have so much evidence of inability to learn from reading
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By WhyattThrash on 24 Oct 2023 12:27
@MiNDmaZing - Glad it worked for you! If you don't mind, I will add your version of the steps to the guide. Just in case people want another example of how's it done aside from FrankCastle492's version.
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 24 Oct 2023 18:40
I actually made it twice cause i missed to trade the ergo, i could delete the profile twice and resync from cloud. So it definitely works if you do these steps. It took me also a half an hour to kill nameless and it didnt overwrite the cloudsave
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By MiNDmaZing on 24 Oct 2023 18:40
Sure you can add it
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By MiNDmaZing on 24 Oct 2023 18:42
I used Frank's method and it worked a charm! Thanks for the tip ☺️
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By ScarletRotXI on 25 Oct 2023 18:16
I don't know where I went wrong, but it didn't work for me. I killed Nameless Puppet while offline. Then, after the credits, I pressed B and got the Sophia and Special Weapon achievements. Thing is, the achievements just don't pop while you're offline. So, I went to the dashboard, went online, and then the achievements popped. Thing is, in the very same moment a save was uploaded into the cloud, even though I was on the dashboard.

I was afraid to delete the physical saves, as I thought in that case the achievements wouldn't have a chance to register. Maybe I should have done so? Not sure, though.
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By Ich Bin Viele on 27 Oct 2023 21:39
AndreiMaxSLD quit the game to make a cloud upload, then play the game as normal for half an hour, an hour (grab some new stargazers, defeat some bosses etc), then delete your cloud save. You will have a cloud upload from some random point during play that was NOT from when you quit the game.

I have no idea what triggers it, but the game 100% performs random cloud uploads during normal play, as plenty of people have pointed out.
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By WhyattThrash on 03 Nov 2023 06:17
Xbox does random cloud saves, so I will try the offline method here's hoping lol
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By Lucky Eag1e on 03 Nov 2023 11:57
I done the first ending via the offline method, anyone know how long it takes for those achievements to come through after I have come back online?
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By Lucky Eag1e on 03 Nov 2023 12:02
@WhyattThrash you obviously have zero reasons to be hanging around after credits if you only looking for the achievements, just dashboard right after grabing the letter and do the process, i had success with this method as well as other players from what i heard, so whatever is being done in this method is not trigering the cloud upload at all.

and how do i tag a person here btw? ty in advance.
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By AndreiMaxSLD on 03 Nov 2023 14:40
I deleted the save immediately after collecting the letter and it didn't work. I reloaded my save right after the letter. The cloud save must have synced
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By Pebster on 04 Nov 2023 02:53
Glad I saw this, as I screwed up my first playthrough ( all lies ) when I let Sophia live, didn't really want to play 2 more times so this was a time saver. The cloud method listed by FrankCastle worked perfectly, The only problem was i had to kill Manus again, but that's on me I think, as I repaired the Stargazer by Gepetto but didn't use it. But as of Nov 6 the cloud method works, thanks once again!!
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By Azrael0403 on 06 Nov 2023 09:41
I tried the offline method for the Real Boy ending, as well as going for the Pianist and One Father achievements, but none of the achievements ever popped after coming back online (I did delete the console save prior to coming back online). Is there something I did wrong? Has anyone gotten the offline method to work?

EDIT: I tried this the next day and I got it to work. The only difference was I was online when rebooting the game and went offline after it was booted again.
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By AJBrey on 09 Nov 2023 19:01
After the offline method failed for me, in my second playthrough I tried again by using FrankCastle's instructions. This time it thankfully worked! I think one mistake last time may have been that I deleted the harddrive saves from the dashboard and not while still in the game.
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By Ich Bin Viele on 13 Nov 2023 19:22
as of Nov 16, FrankCastle492's solution worked just fine. i even added in playing the piano and had zero issues. pressing the xbox button and deleting the save file from the pop-up sidebar (as he outlines in his solution) doesn't trigger a save upload, but dashboarding does. once the home menu loads you're having your save overwritten. That's probably be why so many people aren't having this work.
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By Decaying Dead on 16 Nov 2023 20:57
@whitop, it worked. I did it. Thank you.
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By SkyWalker Leo on 25 Nov 2023 07:01
Can confirm method of going online then offline when in game to get one ending works
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By decapitated dan on 25 Nov 2023 07:26
Online method worked for me as of Dec 7 2023, repaired gepetto stargazer then quit to main menu, dashboarded and highlighted the game and hard quit the game app. Then loaded it up gave him the heart skipped credits ran upstairs got the letter then pressed the guide button highlighted lies of P press start "manage game and addons" --> saved data --> delete all --> confirm delete all

It kicked me out of the game and when I loaded it up I was back at the gepetto stargazer. Also when I picked the letter up there was the save icon (as well as multiple save icons as I was doing the bad ending) but it didnt matter because it still loaded the cloud save at the stargazer.

I think what a lot of people are doing wrong is when you pick up the letter you have to bring up the guide and force delete the save while the app is still running, if you dashboard and then highlight the game to delete the save it updates the cloud save as soon as you dashboard. That or maybe it does do periodic saves and people are just being too slow to finish the ending and go get the letter and then quickly delete the save data.
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By Elite Mouse on 07 Dec 2023 07:33
Did everything as instructed and it didn’t work, so looks like the whole playthrough was a waste of time trying to lie. Don’t bother trying this guys you’ll just fuck your save up.
Not worth 3 play throughs so this is very frustrating that it didn’t work! Honestly feel so disheartened that I don’t even want to do a 2nd as I assume there is no way to get that save back now 🙄
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By Rhynozerker on 08 Dec 2023 12:09
I tried the cloud save and now the playthrough was a bit of a waste. What makes it worse it that I did everything on my first playthrough, but I accidentally reset the playthrough because I didn't realize there was stuff after until it was too late. Then on my second playthrough, I tried the cloud save method, but it didn't work. So now I have to play through 2 more times if I want to %100. I regret not hitting b instead of resetting. I love the game, but man it just kinda sucks.
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By feastuponthecat on 12 Dec 2023 23:57
Didn't work for me either. I deleted the save which force quit the game but when I restarted the game I was standing in front of Gepetto's desk.
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By Tuschi on 17 Dec 2023 15:03
Got it to work with the offline method, never popped at first but I deleted the save then restarted the game before going back online then got to the menu went back online quit out the game and when I restarted game it asked if I wanted to use save from either console or cloud, I chose cloud and 2 achievements popped.. I restarted at the stargazer before Geppetto thankfully as this game is great but i never wanted an extra playthrough.
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By Colzzh on 31 Dec 2023 12:51
For me the online one didnt work. I followed the instructions clearly but was confused that at many steps the autosave icon popped up, like after giving the heart in the cutscene, when the credits started, when appearing in the hotel and while reading the letter before the achievement popped. Then i deleted my savefile, startezd the game again and got a message about not closing the game the right way the last time i played and continued in front of the desk. So i have to play another playthrough.. Well.
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By LightningSoule on 03 Jan 2024 23:47
Going offline, doing it, deleting the save, going back online didnt unlock any of them for me. I am not risking doing it online just yet because I dont want a third playthrough
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By Mike Langlois on 07 Jan 2024 00:53
Offline method didn't work for me either, I tried 2 times already. V 1.4
Maybe they patched it.

Went offline, started at stargazer, gave the heart, cancelled new game plus, got the letter from the coin fruit tree guy, and Gepetto,
deleted the save game from the sidebar, game restarts, went back online, opened the game, restored from cloud, no achievements popped up and back to same spot.

I loved the game, but not willing to do multiple playthroughs. Next game!
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By KillerDarkWolf2 on 07 Jan 2024 03:16
Did you both start the game in online and only go offline after having loaded your game? People have suggested they’ve had better luck getting the unlocks after restoring when doing it that way.
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By WhyattThrash on 07 Jan 2024 08:51
Whitop's guide a dozen comments up worked perfectly, with no risk of accidentally over-writing your save file. Works as of 1/8/24
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By ShadowEchelon91 on 08 Jan 2024 14:57
I just did a second attempt following Whitops guide as suggested and that worked. Got this achievement, loaded back in and ready to fight nameless puppet for the last one
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By Mike Langlois on 08 Jan 2024 22:46
I can confirm the online method as described by Gotham Rises above works perfectly as of 10/1/24, I had also used it to get Sekiro's endings previously so was familiar with the method already, got Real Boy then deleted the console save, went back onto the game and it put me back in front of Geppetto, refused, killed Nameless Puppet and got Rise of P all in the space of 10 minutes.
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By Yhannos on 10 Jan 2024 18:04
If you don't plan on using the cloud save exploit, do this ending last, as you won't have to fight the Nameless Puppet on NG+2. And NG+ feels much more difficult than in other Souls games, so I really would try to get your endings with any of the cloud save methods, and not play through the game 3 times like I did!
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By Rory 1201 on 22 Feb 2024 03:48
I just did Whitops method for offline and this worked v1.5.0.0 (14th April 2024). The only difference for me was the achievements didn’t overtly pop on screen, but they had quietly done so in the menu’s after I went back online.
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By corpirate on 14 Apr 2024 22:46
April 16 whitops method still valid and working - rest at stargazer at bottom of elevator after defeating manus, exit game to create cloud save, load back up the game, go offline, kill nameless puppet, delete save data off console during the credits without closing the game, go back online, now you’re back at stargazer before talking to geppetto :D
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By vShockzi on 16 Apr 2024 21:38
VShockzi got this right! Just followed the instructions and everything unlocked just fine. Doing ending 2 now and then onto NG +
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By I Sphyre I on 05 Jun 2024 18:49
-Sit at the Stargazer before speaking to Geppetto.
-Quit and close your game normally so your save uploads to the cloud.
-Start the game up again, and give him your heart, then after the credits you can get the letter from his study to complete his story.
-After that stand still and press the guide button, highlight the game and press start, go to manage add-ons, go to saved data, and delete your save from the console only this will force close the game.
-When you load up the game, it will download your cloud save, and you'll be back at the Stargazer before Geppetto and can do one of the other two endings.
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By FrankCastle492 on 26 Sep 2023 00:00
@Charlie Pe - Nope! Anyone can do it, just need access to internet. If you’re curious on how it works, here’s a link to an Xbox FAQ. I’ll add This onto the guide too. https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/games-apps/game-setup-an...
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By Spicy Eggroll1 on 30 Sep 2023 17:09
I'm not sure how anyone got the stay online, delete your local save method to work. In my experience when trying to get multiple ending achievements like this, you HAVE to go offline to avoid the game uploading the save to the cloud (this means having your home xbox on your console to be able to play offline in the first place). Especially in soulslike games where the game remembers where you are upon quitting out.

In Lies of P, if the save icon ever shows in the top right corner, the game is saving to the cloud. This happens when you pick up the letter.
People that had this method work for them must not have picked up the letter or got lucky with the game not saving.
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By perfectXzerO on 02 Oct 2023 16:30
it was great to read your comments about the Lore. You know, as an Italian, Pinocchio and Collodi are quite natural treasures for me (for us) and it's very, very different from the Disney's version... actually I think Lies of P did a great job with the lore and it's much more close to the dramatic real one than expected.
No frenzy puppet, of course... but the faire is a dead girl's ghost, Pinocchio dies because of cat and fox, and many other dramatic scenes...
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By zeno2k on 03 Oct 2023 07:04
Yeah while I’m not very familiar with the original tale, the lore of P is pretty neat.
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By WhyattThrash on 03 Oct 2023 07:34
I think part of the downvotes is that the solution contains misinformation like the quote from FrankCastle492 saying the game only performs cloud uploads when quitting the game. Which much of the playerbase now knows for a fact is incorrect.

I realize it’s hard to make recommendations when the game’s so unpredictable, but it would probably be a good idea to mention explicitly that the game does perform periodic cloud uploads without user interaction. The safest way to go for the achievements are to 1) try offline or 2) go about it real fast if offline doesn’t work, but be aware that might lead to the game uploading a save on its own and there’s not much to be done about it.
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By WhyattThrash on 23 Oct 2023 16:36
I don't know what I did wrong but the reload method completely failed for me. I was going for the "free from the puppet string" ending first. So I went offline and killed NP, skipped the credits, played the piano, then dashboarded and deleted my local save. Went back online and reloaded the game and it put me back in Hotel Krat post-NP with no achievements. So not only was I not able to reload to get the human achievement, I didn't get the achievement for letting Sophia live and killing NP. Looks like I need to do two more playthroughs.
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By Gamer0364 on 03 Nov 2023 18:52
Got it to work with the offline method, never popped at first but I deleted the save then restarted the game before going back online then got to the menu went back online quit out the game and when I restarted game it asked if I wanted to use save from either console or cloud, I chose cloud and 2 achievements popped.. I restarted at the stargazer before Geppetto thankfully as this game is great but i never wanted an extra playthrough.
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By Colzzh on 31 Dec 2023 12:53
Online DOES work. Was playing Sekiro just before this so the method was fresh on my mind. I made my cloud save before even going down the elevator after defeating Simon. You do this back pressing start, and quitting out to the game's main menu. Continued game from there, got ending and achievements and all you do is this:

MAKE SURE YOUR GAME IS RUNNING after you get your final achievement for whatever you're doing > hit Xbox button > hover Lies of P > Menu button > Manage game > Saved data > Click your gamertag > Delete from console > Resume Lies of P. You should then be forced to load the game back to the main menu, just hit continue, and you should be back at wherever you made your cloud save. Literally just worked for me. If you've played a From Software game, you've done this before..
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By Gotham Rises on 06 Jan 2024 10:41
After reading all these comments, and the intermittent nature both a) earning achievements offline and then not unlocking when going back on, or b) earning them online and having a background sync occur so being able to quit and restore the prior save, I tested another method.

I haven't tested this with the endings as I am not that far through yet, but was able to successfully do this mid game to verify the process. Note this requires the use of another console/pc/cloud:

- Console A: Primary Console/PC
- Console B: Alternate Console/PC or cloud

- A: Save game at point which to return to, quit to title, and then exit game normally. Allow a few minutes for cloud sync to finish, and then go offline
- B: Load game which will sync cloud save, and then continue playing online, completing whichever actions/ending required, unlocking achievements as normal
- A: To roll back to previous save, while still offline, load the game and accept the warning about no network connection. Continue your previous save which will be at the point you want to return to, fast travel somewhere to create a new save and then quit to title, exit again. Now restore the network connection and re-launch the game, you will get a conflict message, and ask which save you want to keep, local or cloud. Keep your local save, and this will then replace your cloud save with your local progress and you can continue as normal

I will update again in a few days when I get to the end.
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By Katsuri on 07 Jan 2024 21:07
the thing about "periodic cloud uploads" is incorrect, lies of p save is uploaded to cloud only when you close the game, this should be more clear in this guide cause theres a lot of people here afraid of messing up and lose their saves or end up in need to make a 3rd run.

MiNDmaZing method seems to be the only one working now, just got 2 endings in 1 run doing exactly what he said and whitout going offline at all (tried going offline method once and had no success)

- activate and use the last stargazer before talking to gepeto.

- close the game so your save get uploaded to cloud

- start game again, give your hearth to gepeto and get the ending achievement, do not go into NG+, when back at hotel krat go to gepeto desk and get the letter for a second achievement.

- once you get the letter DO NOT CLOSE THE GAME, just dashboard and delete both game saved data (profile and reserved) you will get a message warning telling you that this action will force the game to close, confirm it and delete your saved data.

-start game again and your cloud save from before will be downloaded taking you back to the stargazer, refuse to give your hearth kill nameless puppet and you will get your missing ending.
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By AndreiMaxSLD on 03 Nov 2023 04:47
Just got this achievement using the offline method. First time I tried, I started the game offline, did the requirements of 3 achievements. Deleted the local save and reserved space. When I went back online, nothing happened. Second time, started the game while online, went offline at the Stargazer before Geppetto. Did the requirements for the same 3 achievements, deleted the save and reserved space. When I went back online, the achievements unlocked without even opening the game. When I reloaded the game, it resynced my save and I was back at the Stargazer.

In addition, I think the online method might work just as well, the only reason I didn't go for it is because I actually couldn't go back to an earlier save to get something I missed using that method. And I hadn't gone to the dashboard. Just deleted the save and reserved space using the sidebar menu. However, I actually hit the xbox button a few times while making up my mind on what to do, so that might have triggered a save upload. Just sharing my experience anyways. (v. 1.3.0.0).
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By whitop on 17 Nov 2023 19:42
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**MISSABLE**

When you are in the Under the Abyss area, towards the end of Lies of P, you will have the choice of whether or not to give Gepetto the heart. This is the ending that you get – and the achievement that you unlock – if you choose to give Gepetto the heart. You can unlock this achievement whether you have been truthful or not.

If you save at the Under the Abyss Stargazer and quit, and your save will upload to the cloud. Then, once you have unlocked this achievement, you can hit the Xbox button, hover over Lies of P and click Manage Game, then delete your local save files and force quit the Lies of P app. Then, when you restart the game, it will automatically download your cloud save, and you can go for either Free from the puppet string (70G) or Rise of P (80G), depending on whichever you have decided to go after in your playthrough – honesty or deceit.
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**MISSABLE**

When you are in the 'Under the Abyss' area, towards the end of Lies of P, you will have the choice of whether or not to give Gepetto the heart. This is the ending that you get – and the trophy that you unlock – if you choose to give Gepetto the heart. You can unlock this trophy whether you have been truthful or not.

If you save your game at the Under the Abyss Stargazer, and then upload that save to the cloud, you will be able to unlock this trophy, then reload your data from the cloud and go for either Free from the puppet string trophy_gold.png or Rise of P trophy_gold.png, depending on whichever you have decided to go after in your playthrough – honesty or deceit.
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26 Sep 2024 04:28

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Solo a los que comparten cuenta tienen que omitir las cinemática de los finales, si el juego se les sierra en pleno final, solo tienen que borrar los datos guardado de la consola y luego conectar el Internet y listo
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By ASESINO809 on 26 Sep 2024 04:31
100% Complete Walkthrough for all achievement/collectibles and Full Game:
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09 Dec 2023 16:24

We need to let Sofia live (not give her peace, but let her live) and give her heart to Geppeto.
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24 Sep 2023 13:26

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I gave Sofia peace and gave my heart, they gave me this ending.
Don't start NG+, run around the hotel.
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By Moorllk on 24 Sep 2023 15:22
The most important thing is to just give your heart. And truth/false is not important for this ending. If you don’t make backup saves, but go through NG+, then it’s better to leave it at the end to make your life easier.
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By lloydzx211 on 27 Sep 2023 13:42
I did this ending on NG+, skipped all the dialogues and quests (played for speed in general). He left Sofia alone (not to live, but to be alone), at the end he gave away his heart and the prize came out.
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By knyaz on 29 Sep 2023 21:03
Sofia has nothing to do with this ending, all you need to do is give your heart at the end
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By timka on 09 Nov 2023 08:23
At the end of the game, give the heart to Jepeto
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By zaichik2 on 18 Dec 2023 18:06
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If you play without saving migration, I would advise you to do this ending in the first playthrough, since later the hero will be stronger, and you will already learn how to play and the heart will be pumped. The first playthrough is the hardest
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22 Jun 2024 21:53