Mass Effect Legendary Edition

Mass Effect Legendary Edition

127 Achievements

2915 XP

120-150h

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Principled

Principled

ME1: Accumulate 75% of total possible Paragon or Renegade points

75 XP

34.0%

How to unlock the Principled achievement in Mass Effect Legendary Edition - Definitive Guide

You should get this achievement naturally as you progress the game.

If you want to speed things up a little, the same "glitch" from original Mass Effect still works. Just make sure you have enough renegade and intimidate points to be able to select a proper dialogue option during the conversation with Lorik Qui'in.

1. Go to Noveria, talk with Administrator Anoleis and then with Gianna Parasini.
(2. Try to avoid getting the garage pass by uncovering Opold's (the hanar) smuggling bussiness as you won't be able to use this method.)
3. Gianna Parasini will direct you to Lorik Qui'in in the bar. Talk to him and agree to help with getting the evidences from his office (go there and do the job).
4. Go back to the bar. Gianna Parasini will ask you to get Qui'in to testify.
5. Save now in case you mess someting up with the dialog lines.
6. Talk with Lorik Qui'in, pick the options:
a) Testify against Aloneis
b) You'd be a hero (+24 paragon points) or "Damn right I will" (+25 renegade points)
c) Talk with Lorik again, pick the option "Matriarch Benezia"
d) "Another question"
e) repeat from a) to d)

Enjoy!
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15 May 2021 09:56

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It looks like Bioware have patched this. The conversation ends immediately after saying "You'd be a hero", and the option is gone when you talk with Lorik again.
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By Darauk on 22 May 2021 17:53
Its not patched as I just did this today. I think you are forgetting step 6-c, after you use charm or intimidate you'll be kicked out of the chat window yes but you're supposed to wait till he stops talking to enter the chat again then start at 6-c.
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By SSgtRubberDucky on 22 May 2021 20:32
It is not patched. Talk to Lorik again
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By Shadow Dancing on 22 May 2021 22:44
It’s not patched, thank you very much.
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By Jacob2Israel on 24 May 2021 11:19
Works amazing.
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By lee1987xz on 26 May 2021 15:10
Works for paragon?
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By Endl3ssWaltz on 27 May 2021 20:59
Thanks iago, your method still works.
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By PrinceOfEternia on 31 Mar 2022 01:33
Goood old ways!
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By JimmieWorld on 07 May 2022 01:58
You can get it even earlier and without any Paragon/Renegade requirements. During the "Lost Module" assignment which is accessible right after "Expose Saren" once you reach the Hercules system in the Attican Beta cluster and head to Eletania. You can get infinite 6 Paragon points just by repeatedly clicking the same monkey after a save/reload. The monkey with the module is located in a mine shaft to the north in the easternmost tunnel. Still works with the LE. From the Mass Effect Wikia:
It is possible to gain an unlimited amount of Paragon points during this assignment. To perform the glitch, begin by searching the monkey holding the data module and then saving the game. After reloading, another search of that monkey will result in the Paragon point reward being reissued to the player, despite it already being claimed before the reload. You do not need to save/reload the game between searches after the first save/reload. This results in a potentially limitless supply of Paragon points.
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By iago on 30 May 2021 12:51
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Do the side mission UNC: Lost Module, which is located in the Hercules Cluster, Attican Beta system. The mission itself is on the planet Eletania.

On the planet you need to find a crashed probe to collect the data module from. However, it's been stolen by monkeys. You're looking for a monkey colony near a mineshaft. Take care not to kill any monkeys, since it voids this method.

When at the mineshaft, head into the mine and move towards the back of it. One of the monkeys in the farthest back room has the data module you need. When you've found them, make a save and reload. After reloading, you can infintely select the monkey and get 6 Paragon points per selection.

Enjoy your 75G and free stat points in Charm.
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This does not work for me
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By DoomSentinel on 15 May 2021 17:27
Worked for me. I did a save before I collected the module from the monkey (just in case) and a save after I collected it. You load the save AFTER collecting the module, you can then select the same monkey over and over to farm paragon points.
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By Hordesman on 15 May 2021 18:31
Flash: You probably killed a monkey by accident.
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By RDS#5610 on 16 May 2021 07:30
That would be the Artican Beta Cluster and the Hercules System. You had them reversed.
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By LegacyOfTheAsh on 16 May 2021 21:36
Tried it a few times from a save before the drone. Did not work. 0 Monkees were killed.
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By RuneSlayer4421 on 17 May 2021 02:34
Seems like a slow and tedious method, especially when the exploit from the original ME1 still exists on Noveria. That nets you 24 paragon points OR 25 renegade points every time you repeat a portion of a conversation with Loriq, is infinitely repeatable, and doesn’t require you to mess around with saving and reloading. All it takes is 5 points in Charm to be able to earn Paragon points, and/or 5 in Intimidate for the Renegade points. I went from about 60% Paragon and 0% Renegade to full on both in about 10 minutes.

The downside is that it only becomes available a little later in the game than monkeying around with the Lost Module quest does.

More details here:
https://www.ign.com/wikis/mass-effect/Max_Paragon_and_Renega...
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By JKSullivan on 17 May 2021 03:14
Not slow at all, you only need to save and reload once. After the reload, you can spam the select button on that monkey and max Paragon in a matter of seconds.
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By RDS#5610 on 17 May 2021 07:29
Yeah, it's actually faster than the Noveria method
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By PangoBara on 17 May 2021 22:01
This method is actually extremely fast. I can confirm that after the reload you can spam the A button to rack up points very quickly. However, it’s apparently not a good idea to go crazy and keep spamming much longer after getting the achievement, as the game froze on me after getting 336 Paragon points. Really great, quick method, though.
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By FLEEBS on 18 May 2021 19:12
Greatest....solution....ever...!!! Wow. That is such a weird, but awesome, guide for 75G I've ever seen. Very nice find, my friend. Thanks!
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By Broon43 on 15 Jul 2022 23:21
Best solution. SIMPLE EXPLANATION:

1. Select the monkeys until you find the monkey
2. Save AFTER selecting and finding monkey
3. Reload save and continue selecting monkey for infinite points

Please update original solution to make this clearer.
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By Vektor0 on 01 Dec 2022 04:55
Yeah, on my second playthrough I did this method to try it out, and it's much faster than I thought. When I first read it, I thought you had to save/reload every time and that was not correct. I concur with Fleebs - mine hung up when I got to 360 points. It seems to be fine if you take a break every so often and let the onscreen notification go away, then go back to spamming A - you can also check the Squad menu to see how far along you are.

The Noveria approach is still the only glitch if you're trying to max out your Renegade points, though.
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By JKSullivan on 20 May 2021 15:30
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You can easily get this naturally by always choosing the same types of answers to questions. Choosing the top answer in conversations will always lead to Paragon points and choosing the bottom answer will always lead to Renegade points. There are also two spots where you can infinitely earn points for this achievement.

The first chance is on Noveria. During the main mission, you will be sent to speak with Lorik Qui'in. During this conversation, choose "Testify against Anoleis" and then you can either choose "You'd be a hero" for Paragon points or "Damn right I will" for Renegade points. Speak with him again and choose "Matriarch Benezia" and "Another Question" then repeat the first set of choices until you've maxed out one or the other.

The second chance is during the "UNC: Lost Module" mission. You are sent to acquire something from the monkey aliens in a cave. Collect the module and save your game, then reload. The monkey who previously had it will still be selectable, and you can infinitely spam the action button to rack up Paragon points until you are maxed out.
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