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Zerthimon Reconciled

Zerthimon Reconciled

Obtained both halves of the Teachings of Zerthimon

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How to unlock the Zerthimon Reconciled achievement in Neverwinter - Definitive Guide

Glitch status update 11-7-19 Still Glitchy! Cryptic don't know how to fix their achievements, you apparently have to redo this on a different toon that has NO progress, and even worse it's still not guaranteed!

Glitch update--this should now be fixed as of about 10/25/19.(You will have to redo the requirements though)

The way this is supposed to be obtained is by doing this:
Recon missions of both Githyanki and Illithid.
Every 2 Recon missions from each faction unlocks a warden mission for that faction.
Each warden mission gives a piece of a rod.
Once you have 3 pieces of a faction's rod, you can do the factions Fragment Expedition.
You have to do both factions Fragment Expeditions twice to get the halves of Zerthimon.

Note: You can't hold multiple warden quests open, but you CAN complete as many recon missions as you want, the unaccepted warden missions will stack and be acceptable as soon as you finish one. Big thanks to multiple people in the comments for helping clarify that!

You can check your progress for yourself here:
"Menu"
"Quests"
"Journal"
"Achievements"
"Quests"
"Zerthimon Reconciled"
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14 Oct 2019 00:06

60 Comments
Your not the only one its glitched for lol.
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By YODA12320 on 15 Oct 2019 19:02
LOL. *sigh* At least there are tickets in to ARC about this, I've temporarily lost interest in Neverwinter currently now...

Yet 10 people already have it somehow too..
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 16 Oct 2019 01:30
Should have popped today. It didn't. Same tracker issues as you Shadow.
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By planting42 on 18 Oct 2019 04:38
I'm not buying that people are unlocking it the normal way. Maybe it is glitched and doing a specific unrelated task pops it. I asked one guy and he said you have to run both FEs with 3 runes, but that is a different achievement so I dunno if he was just being a jerk and not explaining what he did to pop it or if he is honestly clueless.
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By LifeExpectancy on 19 Oct 2019 16:14
I know a couple of people unlocked it before they should have, 12 days is the length it takes to get the achievement and i seen a couple with the achievement alot earlier than that.
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By bofeenaun on 20 Oct 2019 13:47
same here. hope they release a patch to fix this! neither one of these unlocked for me
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By Gamegoddess 21 on 20 Oct 2019 14:10
Maybe it has to be done in a group? Anyone here who didn't get it, did you do the quests in a group?
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 20 Oct 2019 19:12
They added some fixes for the journal on pc today, so hopefully this fixes the problem.
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By bofeenaun on 22 Oct 2019 19:06
So like 2 months for Xbox? dance
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 22 Oct 2019 19:52
Usually a couple of weeks :)
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By FxH Final on 23 Oct 2019 08:36
It's now working
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By FxH Final on 25 Oct 2019 10:38
By working you mean do another fragment expedition?
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By Fuzzmeister J on 25 Oct 2019 12:16
i just did 2 fe with 3 runes on each and it not unlock :(
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By AnxiousAbe on 25 Oct 2019 13:46
U have to to TWO FEs of each to get that half of the teachings AFAIK. So now that it is fixed four more FEs (two of each) sjould get it. Runes never had anything to do with this achievement. Only the other one.
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By LifeExpectancy on 26 Oct 2019 01:40
hope it works after i do next 2 :)
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By AnxiousAbe on 27 Oct 2019 14:24
Ya just ran cycle again and no achievement.
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By YODA12320 on 28 Oct 2019 11:05
Curious if those who still need this also need Lair of the Mad Mage completed. I've not done that or the new trial.
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By planting42 on 28 Oct 2019 15:42
Yoda, you did two full cycles? I.e., 24 Recon quests, 12 Warden Expeditions, and 4 Fragment Expeditions?
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 28 Oct 2019 18:19
Yup shadow 00 fox
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By YODA12320 on 29 Oct 2019 08:50
I can confirm what Yoda said. I did my other 2 fragment expeditions today and no achievement. It looks you'll need to complete the original quest on another character to unlock the achievement. What a joke! I don't have another lvl 80 character. I'm about finished with this game and it's developer.
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By eNamrah on 29 Oct 2019 13:10
Not only do I not have another level 80, but am not gonna gear up to do the dungeon on a new character. That's just crazy!
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By Fuzzmeister J on 29 Oct 2019 17:10
Wowwwww.........
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 29 Oct 2019 17:48
Actually Fuzz, the dungeon gearing up is incredibly easy with companion equipment being so transferable now, the only things that are a problem are the weapon set and artifacts pretty much.
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 29 Oct 2019 17:49
Nice! Yeah I read somewhere that I could do all the expeditions technically in one day if I wanted as long as I did enough recon missions. And for the fact that neverwinter sucks now, I was okay with just doing daily recon missions and saving all the expeditions for a rainy day.
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By WudYaLo0kAtThat on 15 Nov 2019 21:23
How hard would it have been to add code that checks if tou have unlocked TOMM and pop the achievement if you have. I have 3 lvl 80s but REALLY dont want to transfer all my gear (other two toons are stripped) just to do this fucking campaign again. God I wish a power surge would fry arc's servers and all backups before the next mod and rid us once and for all of thus filthy game.
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By LifeExpectancy on 30 Oct 2019 03:55
Their servers are not already fried? I can't hardly do daily quests without rubberbanding off a cliff some days.

As for having 2 70 toons. No boons and don't know how to play the other class. I just spammed skills on the TR until I was 70 and not touched it in a very long time. Mostly I just don't want to waste more time than I need to in the game. I have a lot I want to play without these service games being impossible to keep completed.
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By Fuzzmeister J on 30 Oct 2019 11:44
Seems the "fix" really didn't properly fix this achievement for people who had previous progress on it. I have one character that now has three of each teaching half and zero progress recorded for it in the in-game journal.

Here a while back I started another capable character that did not have prior Stardock progress. Two FE's down, two more to go I think.
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By banzai56 on 04 Nov 2019 12:43
Do new characters need to run LoMM to access mod 17 if it's unlocked on one character already?
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By Fuzzmeister J on 05 Nov 2019 03:58
Pretty sure LOMM isn't required to get to Mod 17?
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 05 Nov 2019 07:35
Banzai this was already known. You need to do it on a toon that HASNT done the FEs yet. Ive done both FEs like six times on my pally just bc I was getting them out of the way to keep doing recon quests once the 50 recon mssions achievement was fixed. I stopped when I realized I would have to do 24 recons my TR anyway while going for this one.

The only fix is to do it on a different toon. I just wodh it was confirmed that this is Guaranteed to pop if you start fresh on a new toon after the fix. No way I wanna do this on a 3rd damn toon.
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By LifeExpectancy on 07 Nov 2019 04:24
popped for me after doing it on a different toon. i think it's guaranteed now after the fix.
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By AKE 017 on 07 Nov 2019 20:43
Met the requirements again on another toon after the patch and it still hasn't popped for me.
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By JAGERMEISTER TX on 08 Nov 2019 01:04
LifeExpectancy, I didn't see the 'new character required' info posted, so it was a new revelation to me. If it was posted or spelled out in this thread that we needed a no prior progress character to get this, I flat out missed it. No worries though, I got the achievement to finally pop today on the character that had no quest progress prior to the "fix". Guess I'd have started running that character sooner if I'd known...
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By banzai56 on 09 Nov 2019 18:21
Look at what Jagermeister has said--is it really fixed? This is a nightmare as usual from Cryptic.
Jagermeister, was your other toon with ANY progress in Stardock?
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 09 Nov 2019 18:35
I ran 3 toons through prior to the patch and 1 toon after the patch. The 1 toon after the patch had no Stardock progress on it until after the patch.
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By JAGERMEISTER TX on 11 Nov 2019 17:25
Jesus that sucks. I got it to pop on my 2nd toon, which had no stardock progress (or undermountain for that matter). Had to do the entire undermountain campaign and get to 80 before I could even start stardock on it.

When I finished the 3rd and 4th FE today the in-game achievement and title popped up but the Xbox one didnt. I was pissed and just sat there in disbelief. Thankfully after staring at my toon for 4-5 minutes, the achievement popped.
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By LifeExpectancy on 14 Nov 2019 02:37
Wow... I just got my CW to level 80 last night, almost through the first Undermountain campaign so I can start working through this. My Barbarian is working towards the 50 Recon missions, hopefully that doesn't glitch too!
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 14 Nov 2019 03:00
Just wish NW would fuckin die already. But I'm sure the wallet warriors will keep it going for another decade.
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By LifeExpectancy on 14 Nov 2019 08:19
Yes did it on another toon you need to have a toon who hasnt started it at ALL run it through and when you done the 2nd set of the cycle it will pop.
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By YODA12320 on 14 Nov 2019 12:09
Jagermeister said he did it on a toon with no progress at all and it didnt pop for him. Hopefully that is an outlier.
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By LifeExpectancy on 14 Nov 2019 12:31
It's always a bad sign when a 1 page solution has 10 pages of comments. Neverwinter can be fun, but seriously, these stupid broken achievements.
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 14 Nov 2019 19:21
Hey guys I am seeing you needed to do it on a different toon. Is that only if you had done an FE already? I have strictly done all recon missions, and two warden expeditions. Do you think I will have to do this achievement on another toon too?
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By WudYaLo0kAtThat on 15 Nov 2019 14:14
^^ In your rare case, you should actually be able to get it with your first toon! Congrats!
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 15 Nov 2019 19:43
BTW, keep in mind that doing the Expeditions yields an additional valuable reward, the runes(1 from each Expedition) that you can trade in in the Yawning Portal map to a guy under the stairs, very quick source of AD.
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 16 Nov 2019 03:31
Recon missions stack for me. You gotta do the WE you have on you, then the next ones pop up.
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By Fuzzmeister J on 17 Nov 2019 13:37
So WE's stack?! I.e. You do one WE, and the next WE shows up immediately without doing more recons?
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 17 Nov 2019 18:15
You have the achievement for multiple high level toons but can't have multiple level 80s? LOL.

It takes only a few hours to run the whole Undermountain campaign and level from 70 to 80. Especially with guild EXP boon and EXP enchants...

I have one of each class and they're all level 80. It only takes a few days to level from 1 to 80 just playing casually with EXP bonuses... The game literally gives you all the gear for free when you level up...
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By JAGERMEISTER TX on 29 Oct 2019 19:45
Lol I was wrong. My TR and Cleric were stripped and mothballed at level 70. I transferred over all my enchants and runestones from my pally to my TR and had to do the entire undermountain campaign just so I could START the stardock one and start working toward this POS achievement. Gonna have to seriously consider skipping the next mod and staying one mod behind from now on to ensure that any achievement issues are fixed BEFORE I do them on my primary toon.

Not even gonna bother trying to form a zero deaths TOMM group anytime soon. I havent even run it once yet and am in no hurry since the TLO alliance is in ruins more or less.

Why wont neverwinter just die lol.
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By LifeExpectancy on 02 Nov 2019 07:10
I don't think that's how it works from my experimentation--I tried that at first, and progress just wasn't going forwards once I turned in more than two Recon missions. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, and I would LOVE to know if I'm wrong on this, but I thought you can only get two Recon Missions turned in at a time before doing the next Warden mission otherwise it was just completing them without giving the possibility of stacking additional future extra Warden Missions. Anyone have input on this?
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 16 Nov 2019 03:30
So still won't unlock if you've done it once pre-patch. Did this a second time on my main - got lots of fragments in my bags but no achievements....

Not enjoying grinding a new player through Undermountain again. Didn't like it the 1st time on a character that was actually in decent gear... doing it with the poorly geared alt is a great lesson... don't do new content until its fixed!

Just to add to Shadow's recent comment about getting Runes from the Expeditions... that's only if you use runes on them to begin with. Really not worth the time it takes to clear the dungeon IMO for a chance at 5,500 rough AD or another of the same cosmetic companion. Do a skirmish instead lol.
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By planting42 on 18 Nov 2019 01:25
Yes WEs and FEs stack. As soon as you turn one in, the next one shows up right away. I've had that happen a lot doing the 50 investigations over again, :/
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By Fuzzmeister J on 18 Nov 2019 20:56
Thank-you! I had that wrong, I'll update that... redface
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 19 Nov 2019 02:05
people who got the achievement, did you need 3 runes in each FE?
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By Fuzzmeister J on 07 Dec 2019 15:10
This been fixed yet? I really don't want to play the content with my ALT? :(
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By Emerald Axer on 04 Feb 2020 20:12
I don't know yet--no-one's updating how they're getting it, and although folks are getting it pretty much every day, I think it's still broken. Would love to know otherwise!
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 04 Feb 2020 20:50
I still can't get it and I started a 3rd toon through the campaign after the update still nothing.
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By TrentTheReaper on 07 Feb 2020 21:26
Please go to the Neverwinter forums/other info places and raise a stink about this--we got the Chult ring achievements changed in part due to the fuss that was raised--so it can work!
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 10 Feb 2020 21:39
Just did my 2nd run through and it unlocked as expected.

That being, I leveled a mothballed alt from 70 to 80 and did the previous campaign to the point where I could run MEs. At that point, you can start the new campaign. I then ran the whole thing again. Yay!. After finishing the last FEs, pop!
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By planting42 on 19 Feb 2020 00:41
Nice! Glad it worked for you... only some it works though. facepalm
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By Shadow 00 Fox on 20 Feb 2020 19:08
Just logged in (9/12/20) after the latest patch on a character that I did this on when it was bugged and the in game achievement popped for me. Looks like they've managed to retroactively fix that one, so could mean that people will get their achievement as well.
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By Heroic Blanket on 09 Dec 2020 09:58
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