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I'm the Firestarter

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How to unlock the I'm the Firestarter achievement in Oxenfree - Definitive Guide

amenazamenor JF

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16 Jan 2016 22:28

In order to obtain this achievement, you must make all your friends hate you at the end of the game.

IMPORTANT: This achievement is not compatible with "Matchmaker" and "New Beginnings".

You should be mean with them at every possible occasion, and follow these crucial steps. Beware of spoilers:

If you meet these requirements, you'll obtain the achievement during the "stat count" before the credits.

For a guide on how to get all the ending achievements in the lowest number of playthroughs, click here

The "This House is Clear" achievement in OXENFREE worth 245 pointsComplete the story.

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54 Comments

I thought the same when I read that, but I think that if she "disappears" then she's not in the photo at the end (the moment when the achievements are handed out). Just follow the guide, I'd say

By SuperTigerWoods on 18 Jan 2016 14:03

If you choose to leave her using the gate, she disappears, and, as SuperTigerWoods says, she's not in the final photo. As she's not there hating you, the achievement doesn't unlock.

By amenazamenor JF on 18 Jan 2016 15:12

Alright, thanks for the clarification and your thoroughness :)

By Dresden N7 on 19 Jan 2016 03:06

Some people are reporting that they are only getting one of the achievements, so I'm taking the safe side xD.

By amenazamenor JF on 05 Feb 2016 23:52

I did what Kanchanaburi did as well:

At the end, Clarissa wasn't there. Michael was. And I'm the firestarter. Twisted firestarter.

By Sashamorning on 24 Jun 2016 02:45

Just another confirmation on the "Not Save Clarissa" earning the "I'm the Firestarter" achievement. Did exactly as said above, got the "conversation is meaningless" from the ghosts and still unlocked it at the end. I told Michael to "go to school here" as well.

By DownInFlames85 on 11 Jul 2016 03:28

I am pretty sure it is impossible to save Clarissa if you don't find Maggie Adler's letters. I don't know why no one seems to mention this. Without the letters you lose a ton of dialogue options so you always end with "This conversation is meaningless" because you don't know any of the spirits names to talk to them directly.

So, yea, you might want to mention that so people don't just waste time like I did. Finding the letters again is really annoying, though.

By Wessmonster on 12 Jul 2016 22:41

Ok, if anyone was trying to do a quick playthrough like me and didn't want to pick up letters and can't save Clarissa because of it, I have an easy fix for you. The last checkpoint is right when you wake outside of the bunker before you meet up with Nona and Ren. After they disappear (which they won't do if you have all the letters) you can choose the option that says "Addler's Letters" or something like that, then go to the Comm Tower directly north of you. Go up the path and pick up the letter by the sign. This will teach you about a Crewman named Francis Salter that you can then talk to directly to diffuse the ghost situation. Just keep choosing "Friendly" dialogue options until you get the chance to address Francis. The other two people you can learn about from letters for those who are curious are Anna and Henry.

By Wessmonster on 12 Jul 2016 23:19

It is possible to save Clarissa without the Maggie letters. Just use your radio to interact with the triangles. I did this on my first playthough without any letters or anomalys.

By DemonstaIker on 30 Jul 2016 14:16

Followed the guide and I got this and "New Beginnings" as well in the same play through so it is possible.

By PhillipWendell on 30 Apr 2017 20:00

Does anyone know if ace-ing both the hangman game with the ghosts and the eye spy game in Maggie Adler's house makes it impossible for Jonas to hate you?

I followed the guide but since it was my third play through, I knew all the answers and Jonas was still friendly with me.

By Matty Heals on 26 Jul 2017 11:59

I can also confirm you can keep Jonas at a distance and still get both this achievement and "New Beginnings".

By Apostle92627 on 18 Sep 2017 05:05

Only thing I would also add is that after the creepy episode at the Addler House, as you are leaving it, suggest you take the boat, and leave Clarissa behind - everyone is shocked that you suggested it.

By PuritanSoul on 10 Dec 2018 17:21

I can confirm leaving Clarissa to the ghosts does NOT void the achievement. You should update the solution...

By Darth Hawk CZ on 30 Sep 2017 20:21

What the.... I just followed the list and got the bonding with Jonas achievement... then I reloaded and saved Michael and nothing happened. What am I missing?? I didn't help Jonas with the radio, why did it say I bonded with him?...

By tehPinkBullets on 03 Oct 2017 13:45

Just did my 3rd playthrough specifically for this, the only remaining achievement still locked in this game. I followed this walkthrough to the letter, yet ended up bonded with Jonas and screwed over on a completely wasted playthrough. What gives? Did I need to get all the test questions wrong as a previous commentor mentioned? Seems pointless to make a 4th run at it not knowing where I went wrong... just reloaded last checkpoint and saved Mike, just to try it without Jonas being my step-brother. No dice: still bonded; no achievement.

By R3b3l Command3r on 04 Oct 2017 07:43

Just did a third playthrough and stupidly didn't save Clarissa. Damn, how tedious to do it all again...

By Tecstar70 on 27 Oct 2017 08:23

Followed this guide, also was horrible where possible and made sure I told Michael to leave at the end. I closed the triangle rather than go through the back door. In the end they were all grumpy with me so it pinged. At last!

By Tecstar70 on 31 Oct 2017 14:43

I followed this guide exactly on my third play through and no achievement. On my 4th play through i did the exact same thing except I failed both the classroom scene and the adler house scene and doing that pissed off all of the characters because I didn’t try. The achievement popped after that play through. Also I believe to save Clarissa you need to find at least 1 of the adler letters so the ghost release her.

By THE IRISHMAN 35 on 05 Nov 2017 17:23

Hey guys, i know a majority of people know about this, but, for the people struggling to save Clarissa, I would simply close the portal. I tried saving her with dialogue and failed (so I quickly dashboarded the game). If you close the portal and click the choice that says something like: “I did it because I’m done with life anyways” then you should be set. As long as you follow the major points in the guide, everything is alright.

PS: I never collected any anomalies and only collected the unavoidable Maggie letter.

Let me know if you guys are struggling at all :)

By PRSxHeAdShOt on 31 Dec 2017 23:47

I also managed to unlock this without saving Clarrisa. That seemed like the most "evil" thing to do actually.
I was hoping to get Matchmaker at the same time, but as many other people have reported this doesn't appear to be possible.

By Christian Doe on 15 Jan 2018 14:58

Followed guide except I closed the portal at the end and this achievement popped. Thanks!

By MaKAveLi8581 on 28 Jan 2018 00:10

I just did this to the letter and was as rude in evey conversation as possible and ended up with ren and nora dating at the end. no achievement

By deluxnugs on 16 Feb 2018 11:52

Followed this and also was as rude as humanly possible and it did not pop for me.

By Relagorikt on 05 Mar 2018 08:53

Accidentally messed up the guide and went to save Ren first instead of Clarissa. In order to fix I just made sure to be absurdly aggressive to Ren because he was borderline tolerant with Alex until you admit to trading Clarissa. Thanks for the guide!

By DaEagles9794 on 31 May 2018 12:52

The fact that I was as mean as possible for every single dialogue option and sometimes outright savage, yet I still did not get this achievement makes me hate this game.

By Tubbed on 30 Jun 2018 21:28

Just a couple things, you don’t need to pick up Amy letters to save Clarissa just use your tuner and don’t walk out the back door at the end, I did it twice on my mean and silent playthrough. I was not able to get firestarter on my silent playthrough bc I still bonded with Jonus but some people said they were lucky and did. So I would make your second playthrough the silent one in case you get lucky and grab all the cheevos and save yourself from a 3rd playthrough.

By HawkeyeBarry20 on 25 Nov 2018 03:37

Thumbs up! From my playthroughs, in addition to the solution, I got one question wrong in the quiz bit, I didn’t find anything in Adler’s house and I said I thought Jonas was a moron when looking for Ren. If people are having issues with Jonas, I would say go for that if you haven’t done so!

By Falensarano on 02 Feb 2019 15:56

Even if you don't pick up any Adler letters you can still save Clarissa by using the radio after they say the conversation is pointless and disappear. I did this and still got the Firestarter achievement for doing all the other mean stuff throughout the playthrough.

By erod550 on 07 Feb 2019 02:49

RIP Keith Flint

By pseudoidol on 07 Apr 2019 11:24

Thanks for this

By Telehuman on 07 May 2019 18:15

Few. Want sure I'd get that. I think my pay through proves you can miss a few being mean opportunities as long as you get the main points listed in the spoiler. In the end, it just says I kept Jonas at a distance.

By Fluke939 on 02 May 2020 00:22

I'd agree that failing both tests is necessary to get Jonas to not bond.

By AarrowOM on 03 May 2020 06:11

Damn I was following the guide and accidentally did the first quiz correctly. I’m just gonna finish to see if it works but that’s a few hours I won’t get back.

By gravitychaser on 11 Aug 2020 08:14

Update I just beat the game while acting the first hang man quiz and the achievement still popped. Thanks for the guide.

By gravitychaser on 11 Aug 2020 09:44

I did as the solution indicated and failed both tests and got it.

By MacDOfGlasgow on 11 Dec 2020 14:45

the failures of tests are not crucial, just got my achievement after aceing both of them without any fails, failing may add to angering everyone, but it's not crucial.

By VvVejai on 07 Jan 2021 20:49

the failures of tests are not crucial, just got my achievement after aceing both of them without any fails, failing may add to angering everyone, but it's not crucial.

By VvVejai on 07 Jan 2021 20:52

I can confirm that you cannot get both this and "The Strong, Silent Type" at the same time. I failed the tests, tried to reload the last checkpoint after finishing the silent playthrough and being a dick to everyone before going into the bunker, sacrificed Clarissa, but still I did not get the achievement. So you need to be mean through the whole playthrough.

By Fejer on 07 Apr 2021 16:25

To ease any concerns, this popped for me by following this guide after the recap of each person at the end. Ren was still my friend and smiling as well as Nona in the picture.

By Smackerly on 22 Sep 2021 02:18

Down voted this guide. What the fuck. I followed this guide and wasted 2-3 hours of my life. I ended up bonding with everyone?! This is unbelievable. How fucking misleading is this guide. Many others in the comments had the same experience! I closed the game and went back and tried leaving Clarrisa behind to see if that fixed your complete fuck up of a guide.

By YaIrishMick96 on 01 Dec 2022 22:12

Going back and leaving Clarrisa and telling Michael to go so he dies left me only bonding with Jones. I was mean to him on every occasion possible and threw him under the bus often with big decisions you mentioned in your guide. Didn't get the achievement. Fuck this game.

By YaIrishMick96 on 01 Dec 2022 22:28

Followed the guide above and got the achievement, seems keeping Clarissa or not won't have an effect (maybe if Michael makes her 'happy' by the end if he's kept alive too). Guessing only Nona, Jonas, and Ren's matter for the mean factor based on the above information, but idk; best of luck.

By GoogleTrix on 28 Feb 2023 03:16

"When facing the ghosts underwater, don't leave through the back door. Save Clarissa."

Is this necessary? Since it's the mean playthrough, surely betraying Clarissa would positively contribute towards this achievement, right?

By Dresden N7 on 18 Jan 2016 08:09

I did it. ANd I left the bitch clarrissa, who i imagine to be hot, cooling off in the ocean!

I was mean to everyone, but at the end I couldn't save her. I restarted from the checkpoint a few times, but the ghosts kept leaving me with no other option but to 'leave clarissa' and so i did.

I did save Michael afterwards, well, not save him, he came back to life because I didn't convince him to go to school. And well...

The acheivement popped.

By Kanchanaburi on 04 Jun 2016 18:55

Another confirmation that you can get "I'm the Firestarter" and "New Beginnings" in the same playthrough. Follow everything that amenazamenor JF listed in the solution up until the underwater part at the very end, you CAN sacrifice Clarissa by going through the portal/tear.

Then during the "past memory" scene with Michael, when he asks you for advice tell him to "leave and see what happens" as it ensures that he is sacrificed and Jonas becomes your step-brother

By PabloUK85 on 20 Sep 2017 14:19

I was able to bring Michael back from the dead and also be the firestarter on my "mean" playthrough. I collected all anomalies and hidden letters on my first playthrough, so i guess the knowledge gained from that is able to be recalled in future playthroughs.

I unlocked the I'M THE FIRESTARTER achievement and the THICKER THAN WATER achievement on my third playthrough.

By garageparty on 21 Sep 2017 16:02

Just wanted to confirm that this achievement is NOT incompatible with New Beginnings. I followed the guide to make enemies of everyone, and also advised Michael to leave town at the very end, and popped both I'm the Firestarter and New Beginnings on the same playthrough.

By Ryuukishi634 on 31 Jan 2019 04:53

Okay, so I don't have this achievement yet, but I figured I'd do the silent playthrough second on the off-chance that I might pop this and save myself the third playthrough. Unfortunately for me I didn't get this, as (like HawkeyeBarry20 above) I bonded with Jonas. The only thing I feel I could have done differently was the bit at the end with Jonas and the tape recorder. Whereas I went through the door without even starting up the tape recorder, I think the more unfriendly thing to do might have been to start up the tape recorder and then refuse to use the radio on the tape recorder when Jonas asks, and then go through the door, if it's possible to do it that way. It might be worth trying this for anyone doing a silent playthrough second, as it might be enough to tip Jonas over the edge. Clarissa already hated me at the end (saved her by closing the portal with the radio, btw), but I can't speak for Ren/Nona's feelings. Either way, there's nothing to be lost by trying it this way.

By JBS 80 on 08 Feb 2019 00:05

4th attempt. Followed the game walkthrough on this website and I had everyone distant/annoyed with me at the end and it didn't pop...wtf? So i quit the game and went back to the final sequence and left Clarissa behind because bringing her didn't get me the achievement. After leaving Clarissa and asking Michael to stay (and keeping him alive) it worked!

By YaIrishMick96 on 03 Dec 2022 11:43

This achievement is compatible with New Beginnings. I just completed the game and got both at the end. I followed this guide and ended up distant from Jonas, but I let Michael die, so Jonas was still my step brother and both popped.

By tobiasvl on 05 Feb 2016 23:40

I can also confirm that you don't need any of the letters for this achievement. Just use the radio to close the triangular gate as others have suggested.

Could also add to the solution that you will also unlock the following:

The Secret Achievement achievement in OXENFREE worth 117 pointsContinue playing to unlock this secret achievement

The Secret Achievement achievement in OXENFREE worth 71 pointsContinue playing to unlock this secret achievement

Plus, if you call out Ren for lying and slap him as suggested that gives you:

The Renjamin Spanklin achievement in OXENFREE worth 70 pointsSlap Ren in the face.

By Mr Fiddler on 07 Sep 2016 17:04

I can verify that the suggestion mentioned by JBS 80 makes no difference in the outcome, not in my game anyway. Since I exited the game before the credits were finished, I could replay the sequence starting right before entering the bomb shelter.

This time, I chose to give Jonas the idea of helping him with the tape player after which I still walked away: no effect sadly.

Had to do a fourth playthrough in which I did only two things differently: mess up both tests the ghosts threw at me. In both tests I didn't do anything, and in both cases I managed to pissed off Jonas, probably tipping him over the edge in the end.

I think the failure of the two tests should be added to the solution as crucial steps.

The steps are also mentioned in the solution for completing the game (2nd, mean playthrough):

The "This House is Clear" achievement in OXENFREE worth 245 pointsComplete the story.

By RiBoP on 25 Feb 2019 14:29

I gave mostly mean answers and rude comments. What really does it is

Make the deal, and if asked when you have good and bad news, admit you made a deal. This will TOTALLY piss everyone off and hate you since you

I don't know if saving Clarissa affects the achievement, but I left her to be certain I did the mean playthrough well :)

By TheBongoFury on 26 Sep 2017 19:50

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TrueSteamAchievements

10 May 2021 00:00

Just be rude to your friends all the time.
Some actions that I think affect this achievement the most:

10 May 2021 00:00

The, Pants, Party

XboxAchievements

For this achievement, you have to take as many actions as possible that will upset your friends. I don't know exactly how many of these are required, but just do them all during your 'Mean' playthrough (Step 2 in the roadmap) to be safe.

Accuse Ren of lying during Truth or Slap, and slap him (see the "Renjamin Spanklin" achievement)
Do not talk to Nona before jumping the fence on the beach
Go help Clarissa first after visiting the Comm Tower
Blame Jonas for what happened in the caves
Get all the answers wrong in the army base (the correct answers are US Army RCS, Cookies, 85 - so pick others or say nothing)
Take Nona with you to Main Street
Do not talk to Nona at Maggie Adler's house
Do not find all the items at Maggie Adler's (the correct items are TV in bottom left, painting in top left, picture in top right - just do nothing during this scene)
Accept the ghost's proposal regarding Clarissa, and make sure to tell Jonas right after, and then tell Nona and Ren over the phone
Do not talk to Nona at Bridge Stand during the time loop
Do not hug anyone before entering the bunker
Do not help Jonas with the tape player inside the bunker
Close the gate when you are underwater (rather than walking away)
Bring Michael back to life (refer to "Thicker Than Water")

Some of these aren't tied specifically to this achievement, but are important for all the achievements you'll want to do during this playthrough, so I included them to be thorough.

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PlaystationTrophies

Just be an asshole whenever possible! Look out for your own interests and don't try to save your friends. It is vital that when a deal is made for Clarissa, you take the deal, then proceed to mention the deal to your friends whenever possible. You should also aim to get Renjamin Spanklin, You'd Just End Up Hating Each Other, and Thicker than Water during this playthrough; see those trophies for more information.

Remember: not all dialogue options will have a good and bad option. It's okay to just not say anything.