PAYDAY 2

No way to really make a solid guide for this one as it boils down to luck getting the correct wires cut on the boxes but I will give some observations and tips on how I completed it.

First off the skills needed to make this easier on you and save some heartache.

1. Domination ACED - Keep in mind this will not always work there were some ballsy FBI guys who would fire a shot off before going into surrender, and some who wouldn't surrender at all.

2. Shinobi ACED - You are going to want to stay crouched during the whole mission, also being able to melee a guard silently is never a bad thing

3. Silent Drilling or ECM overdrive - Depending on you're play style to get past the second server room door without any issues (If you have ECM Overdrive it will make this quicker)

4. Smooth Talker

These skills are optional but can help

1. Transporter because the server is heavy and you want to get out quickly

2. The Cleaner ACED so you can bag up the bodies should you have to create any.

Now on to the boxes themselves. The game usually likes to split it up with one of the correct boxes being on the ground floor and the other being on the second floor, that's the good news... bad news is there is no way to tell which one is correct so you are going to have to guess; What I did was the first box I could easily get to would be the one I would try, after the first one is cut without an alarm sounding proceed upstairs and take a crack at the second one.

Once you have the correct wires cut and the alarm is deactivated on the door proceed to the server room door which hopefully is not the one next to the conference room upstairs if it is you're going to have a bad time.

Now once you get the lock picked using either your drill or ECM overdrive to get past the server door, take out the server and sneak back downstairs.

I know this sounds easier when written down, but this is probably one of the hardest achievements I have ever seen as it boils down to a lot of luck and a ton of patience.

Good Luck!

** EDIT ** You are going to want to do this solo so if anything goes wrong you can just restart.

Guessing Game Achievement

This achievement is tricky mainly because requires luck; however I will try help you to make it less of a pain in the hindquarters!

Recommendations:

• I recommend you do this achievement when you are at least past level 54, so you will have more experience with the game and will be at the minimum level for all the skills I recommend.
• Accept a Non-Pro-Job Firestarter to complete the achievement, so you can restart the mission. The contract can on any difficulty, I did not notice any difference.
• Try this achievement offline because you can easily restart. However, if you want to do this multiplayer, you will want to turn AI OFF before accepting the contract so you can easily kill yourselves and restart.

Skills

The main skills that are highly recommended are:

• Transporter – ACED
• Shinobi – ACED
• ECM Specialist – ACED
• ECM Overdrive – ACED

How to do it

1. Picklock to get inside.
2. Find a white security box, open it and cut the wire (careful of surrounds as you need to stand to open the box). REMEMBER to close the box after cut because guards and cameras will notice.
3. Find another white security box, open it, cut the wire, close the box.
4. Now you have disabled the server room alarm, find and picklock the server room.
5. Once in ECM override to get to the server, or drill if unable (ECM Overdrive skill needed).
6. Grab the server and return to the vehicle.
7. Complete!

Other essential notes/tips

Above is essentially what you need to do and I make it sound so simple above right? Well it’s not. You will find lots and lots of times you will cut the first wire and the alarms will go and you will have to restart. This is because there are 4 boxes in the building, 2 downstairs and 2 upstairs. 2 out the 4 boxes will trigger the alarms; the other 2 are what you are looking for and will disable the server room alarm.

I have found that the correct 2 wires cut have always been (as far as I know), 1 correct on the downstairs, 1 correct on the upstairs. I recommend you play by that rule as I have not experienced/read otherwise.

Once inside the building, you should mostly always be crouching to obviously not get spotted as quickly. Take advantage of the fact Xbox has not had the major patch needed to the game; you can easily get away with guards and cameras facing toward. With “Shinobi” skill ACED, this will speed up you crouch speed.

Although I put in the skills tree to have “Smooth Talker”, “Dominater”,“Cleaner”. It is possible to get away without killing any guards what so ever. This is how I actually normally do it. So I’m basically saying you don’t always have to kill the guards you see. We tried to avoid them, and take them if necessary. Arguably you may say the more you kill the easier the escape, but the fact is, over 90% of the time for us, it was the boxes that was making us restart, not getting spotted by guards. So even if you take it slow, it will still come down to the chance of the boxes.

Similar with cameras, we tried to avoid taking them out, just because we didn’t want to wait for the lured guard to investigate. Trust me, with this achievement you want to basically keep trying boxes ASAP, not taking it slow and waiting for guards.

With the ECM jammers, you ideally want 1 for the overdrive once in the server room. Then the next ECM for the final escape to the vehicle. Once you have the server on your back you will want an ECM just in-case things go pear shaped. Meaning, if on the final escape to the vehicle and you get spotted by a guard by accident. First thing to do is place that ECM down and get to the escape! Make sure you still answer pagers though because on Xbox we haven’t had the patch where ECM jammer stops pagers. Also you may want this final ECM to stop cameras temporarily on the last escape out.

How I actually do it

I have actually uploaded images on “Imgur” the blueprints of the map. I have edited the blueprints to show you ALL (98% sure all) the possible spawns for the boxes. I have also shown you the route I take every restart to try to spot most the boxes that have spawned on the map. So I strongly suggest you look at that:

http://imgur.com/01COYny - My routes (Highly recommended to look)

http://imgur.com/CIGk92r - Updated blueprint

http://imgur.com/qccKWME - Original blueprint

However I will talk you through how I do the achievement/routes anyway.

1. Once you spawn at the vehicle, firstly head right just to see if there are any boxes to cut in the main entrance room. (2 possible spawn). These are for note, preferably not for cutting. Arguably an irrelevant step.
EDIT: I am finding the more times I do this achievement, I find myself starting on step 2 to speed things up. You may still want to do this step though, just so you know if boxes have spawned in the main entrance.

2. After that, proceed down the left hand side (if facing the building). As going down that side of the building, look into the big room. To the far right as there may be a box there. Also you may spot the server room in this room to the far left. Then picklock that entrance.
NOTE: If a camera spawns down here, try crouch round it, however if it is facing the pick locked entrance (quite rare this happens), take it out, open the door, wait for the guard to investigate, kill, pager, hide body. OR you may just want to restart if you want to try without shooting cameras.

3. Once inside you are going to want to cut the easiest box you can get to on ground floor.

4. There may be box immediately to your right as you enter.

5. If not, go straight on and there may be a box on the wall to the right as you go straight on.

6. If not, go round the corner and there may be a box next to the middle staircase.
NOTE: You can tuck yourself right underneath these middle stairs and you will not get spotted. A great safe spot.

7. If not, continue round on ground floor and see if a box has spawned opposite the elevators.

8. Hopefully you have walked past a box by now, if not you are going to have to try get to a ground floor one you have seen.

9. We found many, many, many times this first box would set an alarm (we got to 11 first box alarms in a row, no joke!)

10. If you have got lucky, now for the upstairs.

11. Check up the middle staircase if there is a box just to the right as you get to the top of the middle stairs.

12. If not, head back to the “pick locked entrance room” again. And go up the stair case that is closest to the entrance.
NOTE: If there is a camera at the top of these stairs, be brave and you should be able to crouch round and past it, even if it spotting you. (timed right so you don’t get sandwiched by guards.)

13. There may be a box immediately up these stairs, if so and there is a camera spotting you, you will have to leave it, if no camera, try that one (I applied this rule to all boxes actually, if a camera is watching the box, try another box).

14. If not, head round the corner to the left where there may be one round that corner.

15. If not, look behind you to the top of the balcony and you may see one on a pillar.

16. If not, continue round left around the edge of the top floor and you have 3 possible box spawns near the conference room.

17. If not continue round and you may see one round the other side of the conference room.

18. Most likely you have got to another box by now. (Look at “My routes” image above for other routes I take inside the building. If it is free, I sometimes like to get to the conference area via the middle stairs. However the route what I've explained above is good at spotting many of the box spawns.)

19. Now you should have cut the second wire, hopefully that one worked too.

20. Now you need to head for the server room. If you have taken the route explained above, you should have walked past 3/4 possible server spawns. If you didn’t see one, the last possible server spawn is upstairs and sort of above the main entrance area. You can see it in the pictures above.

21. Get to the server room and pick the lock. If a camera is watching the server room door, you may need to use your ECM to get inside, however most likely not.

22. ECM override the next door.

23. Grab the server.

24. Now take your time, you don’t want to mess this up now! Take it slow and plan your escape out. Hopefully it should be a smooth run out. You should hopefully have one last ECM to use if it goes haywire. Use it if you need to get past cameras or if a guard spots you.
If a guard spots you, drop the server, ecm, THEN kill the guard, pager, pick up server and continue. If a camera goes “!” by seeing a dead guards body, there is no way you are getting back to the vehicle. Or if you decide not to answer the pagers, you only have 5 seconds after each kill to get to the vehicle, which is not enough time.

If you are within 31.25 seconds (you think) of the vehicle and a guard spots you. It may be worth not killing him at all so you don’t need to pager. Simply ECM (to disable all cameras) then head direct through towards the vehicle. Through glass if needed! A risky approach but actually how I got the achievement my second time for my friend.

I (i’ll admit) accidentally got spotted on the escape back, so I ECMed and we just head for the finish, past shooting guards, through metal detectors, through glass! We made it to the vehicle BUT about 1 or 2 seconds before we were about to get to the menu screens we heard the alarms! Did he get the achievement though…? YES! So lucky but what a rush!

25. COMPLETE!

Cleared up rumours

• I read somewhere that the correct 2 wires are between 16m to 21m from the computer you need to hack. Well I’ll tell you I found a lot of data to confirm this is bogus. I found correct wires ranging from 10m to 51m therefore there is most likely no method of working out via this method.
• I read somewhere that there are 5 boxes that spawn on the map. Although this may be true. I have only ever seen 4 spawn at once and I have done ALOT of restarts. So 5 spawning must be very rare anyway so nothing to really worry about.
• I have had ONE time where 3 boxes spawned upstairs and 1 spawned downstairs. I found the box downstairs triggered the alarms so you will maybe want to try the upstairs boxes.
NOTE: This point actually contradicts the rule of "1 box downstairs is correct and 1 box upstairs is correct."
However, I would honestly just still stick to the rule of cut the easiest downstairs box, then the easiest upstairs box.

Final say

The achievement is possible but yes it is a pain in the neck, due to its very luck based nature. The more times you try boxes though, the more and more you increase you probability of getting a right 2 combination. Think of it like that.

Sorry for the long guide/solution, however I have seen so many people complain over this achievement, I felt I needed to write up the long in depth solution, to help others.

NUMBER OF PLAYERS I'VE HELPED GET THE ACHIEVEMENT:

"12"

I have stopped helping people for this game now.

MOD EDIT: Sorry can't allow you to offer services for cash as it breaks Microsoft ToS.

GT: JumpEddieJump

No Video? Here is one
We warned: this worst Achievement in this Game, its completely based on luck.

To get this Achievement you need to cut two right Cables inside the Security Boxes to deactivate the Alarm from the Server Room and escape with the Server unseen. Problem is you don't know with cables are the right ones, if you cut the wrong one the alarm goes on - thats why the Achievement is called Guessing Game.

Statically seen you have a 10% Change (or 16.7% if there are only four Security Boxes) to deactivate the alarm ... well Theoretically, took me four hours. I wish that you don't have to try this Level over and over again.

I highly recommend to play this Level solo, so you can restart faster. Also you should be Level 50+, because you need a few Skills: Aced Dominator, Mastermind T4 (You can now intimidate non-special enemies.) AND Aced Silent Drilling Skill, Technican T4 (Your drill is silent. Civilians and guards have to see the drill in order to sound the alarm.) OR Aced ECM Overdrive, Ghost T5 (ECM jammer can open doors which require keycards.)

Skills that are helpfull
- Aced Cleaner, Ghost T2 (You can bag and throw corpses.)
- Smooth Talker, Mastermind T3 (At least 4 pagers can be answered.)
- Aced Shinobi, Ghost T3 (Your faster while crouching and Enemies make less noise when shot or meleed to death.)

Start the Mission Firestarter (dont pick a Projob, then you can't Restart the Mission), and play to Day 2. Run in the FBI Office and just cut the next two Security boxes that you can find (you have to stand up to cut the cable), be sure to close the boxes after. If you see a Guard intimidate him (the other Guards don't mind them, if they see them. PC has this "bug" patched, maybe Xbox Version get it too). Don't destroy any cameras or kill Guards if you don't have the Aced Cleaner Skill - Guards will trigger the Alarm.

This is only an addition to other guides.
While I was going for this achievement I noticed there sometimes only is one box downstairs. In this case DO NOT cut that wire, because it will always set of the alarm. I've tested this theory over 80 times and the single box downstairs is always wrong.
I also recommend going for the games with 3 boxes upstairs, because this will give you 33% chance of succeeding (cutting the first box will be 66% and the cutting second 50%, which makes overall 33%), instead of the 25% in the games with 2 boxes up- and downstairs.

Not too bad of an achievement doable offline and in party. Get low visibility indicated by top right hand in inventory. I did this with the following
-Two-Piece Suit (for everyone, makes it easier to die)

-ECM Jammer

-Primary: CAR-4 RIFLE with Stealth Barrel, no Barrel EXT, Aftermarket special FOREGRIP, Assault Light for GADGET, Pro Grip, Tactical Mag, Holographic Sight, Folding Stockand Exotique UPPER RECIEVER.

-Secondary: Compact-5 Submachinegun with no BARREL EXT, The Ninja FOREGRIP, Assault light Gadget, Surgeon sight, and bare Essentials STOCK

-Important Skills: Dominator (ace), Smooth Talker (basic), Transporter(basic), Chameleon (basic), Cleaner (Ace), Martial Arts (basic), Shinibi (ace), EMC Specialist (basic), ECM Overdrive (Ace) and Lock Pick Expert (Ace) if you use all your ECM's and need the key card in upper office to pick safe.

One little thing we skipped over when trying to figure it out. You have to stand up to actually cut the wires. Seems simple but I over looked it!

Also remember to close it after you cut the wire if the alarm doesn't sound. If it does sound restart (for CRIME.NET offline) all die if in CRIME.NET

You only need two wires cut in boxes

Hope it helps!

This is a rather troublesome achievement to get. For this achievement, you need to be doing the Firestarter mission. This part occurs on Day 2 when you steal the server from the FBI. This achievement focuses on your stealth abilities, but also heavily on a luck aspect.

It is recommended if you are attempting this achievement to do this on solo because you can simply restart the mission should you fail. Also, make sure you are not on a "Pro Job" difficulty, because then you can't restart. Restarting the mission will restart Day 2 only and you will not have to repeat the stealing the weapons part.

For this mission, you must stealth your way through the FBI office and steal the server. The way the mission has you do it is by activating a computer to bypass the security lock. You do NOT want to do this, rather you want to bypass the lock through the use of the security switch boxes. There will be numerous guards that wander around; these guards can be tagged with RB. Be mindful of cameras and also note that guards will call in security on broken cameras.


Recommended skills:

Dominator (ACED)
Smooth Talker
Cleaner (ACED)
Shinobi (ACED)


Recommended Equipment:

Silenced Weapon
ECM


You will be wanting to make guards handcuff themselves in this, it keeps them out of the way and they do not get detected by other guards or cameras.

Carefully make your way through the offices and find the security switches and cut the wires. There will be four (4) switch boxes. Two (2) of these boxes will disable the security, you need both. The other two (2) if triggered will sound the alarm.

When you open one of the switch boxes, there will be a wire there. You will have to cut it. You will know if it is the wrong box because shortly after cutting the wire, an alarm will sound. Unfortunately, I cannot provide any advice on the boxes, they are all at random whether they will alarm or not. All I can say is best of luck.

After you successfully disable the security system, make your way into the server room and get steal the server. The achievement will not pop until you successfully escape with the server, so make your way out as best you can. If all things went well, you should not have any problems.

With the other guides' discussion of the best skills to use for this achievement, I thought it would be good to create a skill build that would display an ideal loadout for reaching those important skills that are higher up in the Ghost tree, while using the least amount of skill points.

http://www.pd2skills.info/profile/ideal-guessing-game-build/

The best version of this build requires $2.6 million and can be created at rank 53, though I unlocked the achievement when I was only rank 50 (I didn't purchase the Basic "Lockpicking Expert" in the Ghost tree). All of the hallmarks of other players' guides are present in this build:

- Aced "Dominator" in the Mastermind tree (for ordering guards to restrain themselves)
- Basic "Smooth Talker" in the Mastermind tree (for answering pagers more convincingly)
- Basic "Transporter" in the Enforcer tree (for moving the server quickly)
- Aced "Cleaner" in the Ghost tree (for bagging corpses)
- Aced "Shinobi" in the Ghost tree (for moving faster while crouched)
- Aced "ECM Overdrive" in the Ghost tree (for opening the server door without using a drill)
- Basic "Lockpicking Expert" in the Ghost tree (for opening the server room's door quicker)

It is important to note that your chosen Skills are saved locally in the "Player progression" file on your 360's hard drive. As such, if you copy the "Player progression" file to another source of memory for your 360, such as a flash drive, and purchase additional weapons or skills, those changes will only synchronize with the specific "Player progression" file from the source of memory that you have selected.

What does this mean? You can keep your current skill spec by making local copies of your "Player progression" file on an alternate source of memory than your primary hard drive, and using this copied file to make any desired changes to your skills, with no resulting change in your primary "Player progression" file.

Therefore, if you currently have $2.6 million in available funds, you can make a separate profile just for unlocking the "Guessing Game" achievement, without wasting any money or sacrificing your skill spec for normal online play.

First off, this isnt much of a guide and there's no easy way to do this, it's practically all luck, hence "Guessing Game".

As far as I know there is absolutely no way of telling which security boxes will disable the alarm and you have to get two of them. I'm pretty certain that 4 spawn on the level leaving 2 wrong and 2 right.
In theory this gives you a 50% chance of getting the first one correct then a 33% chance of the last one (assuming there are 4 total)
The only tip I can give is try it when you're a higher level, I was in the 60's when I did, and also bring ECM jammers with the ECM overdrive to unlock the door. The Dominator skill comes in handy too, so does the Smooth Talker if guards need to be killed. There's also a guy who isn't a guard (manager?) and he will become alerted if he sees guards who handcuffed themselves, whereas the other guards don't. Finally, be careful if you get the server out that no guards see the open door because even if you complete the mission you won't get the achievement.

Hope this helps, I tried this for roughly 4 hours before getting it but its random so you might get it first time . This is my first achievement guide so feedback would be appreciated.

This is not a solution, but this is a tip that might help.

If you use one of your ECM Jammers to get through cameras, YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT ONE THING! If you kill a guard near a camera that is Jammed, you have to answer his pager. While answering his pager, the camera might start working again and you know what happens then. This can also happen when you see a guard but you don't see the camera, shoot him and then the camera detects the body. Do not break any cameras, but also be careful with Jamming them.