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Super Zen

Super Zen

Reached 20 minutes in Endurance

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0.28%

How to unlock the Super Zen achievement in Pool Nation FX - Definitive Guide

MAJOR EDIT: The game has now been patched, and the achievement is now MUCH easier.

Old Solution:

Ok, so, needless to say, this is a VERY difficult achievement.

In the 360 version of this game, you were able to store your 'ball drop clock stopper' until you needed it. Unfortunately, you can't do that in this version.

Anyway, to do it without this ability is very tough.

The best way I found to do it, is at the start, wait until there's between 3-5 balls on the table at all times (except for when the timer's at 15 minutes+), so you've always got a shot on so you don't lose your streak.

Your ball-pot streak is the most important thing in Endurance. If you keep your streak going, at the later times (13 minutes onwards), it'll only take 1-2 balls to restart the ball-drop-stop clock.

Hope this helps.
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02 Apr 2015 09:37

31 Comments
Pretty much identical to the 360 version when it comes to shooting, yes.
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By Corazair on 23 Apr 2015 03:00
I just unlocked this, and had a streak for the entire match. And still by like the 15 minute mark the table is filling up. So to unlock this you really need to have a perfect run
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By luke the blade on 11 May 2015 16:14
Gonna try this tonight...
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By REB3L on 11 May 2015 17:59
Lol. Two negative votes even though I'm the only person who's got this achievement, and I'm giving you tips to get it.

Screw you guys.
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By Dwaggienite on 02 Apr 2015 16:37
Must be the jealousy getting to them. dance
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By Yin on 02 Apr 2015 18:10
Lol, Darkened Night. That cheered me up. Thank you :)
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By Dwaggienite on 02 Apr 2015 18:30
The negative vote system on this site is garbage and needs to be changed.
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By vSully on 02 Apr 2015 19:42
"Screw you guys" haha laugh

Some people (not me) I'm sure downvote to complain about the difficulty of an achievement, or the fact that it may be glitched, etc. I'm sure it wasn't about your valuable help Dwaggie.
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By RomNYC on 03 Apr 2015 12:56
Congrats Awaken on getting this achievement :) It's harder on the xbox one because unlike the 360 version, where you could CHOOSE when to activate the drop-stopper, it's automatic on the Xbox One version. They are going to put manual activation back in though.
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By Dwaggienite on 07 Apr 2015 09:06
I don't necessarily agree Marst0nian. I don't think many people would downvote because of the difficulty of an achievement when just reading someones guide and help. It's more likely that they are just downright envious of the only person who has got it. Humans are a strange beast and there are a lot of weirdo/control freak type people out there lol. I havent got this game yet but +1 from me wave
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By Ratpoizen on 03 Apr 2015 19:59
Ooops, I can't vote because I don't have the game yet. But at least I meant well. smile
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By Ratpoizen on 03 Apr 2015 20:01
Lol. Thank you Rat :)
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By Dwaggienite on 03 Apr 2015 20:04
Took a good week to kill this one on 360 for me, but keeping a 5-ball minimum was almost crucial in keeping the streak.

Expect the ratio to drop a little on Sunday, Dwaggie ;)
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By Corazair on 04 Apr 2015 08:47
lol awaken. i hope o. its gonna kill my GTASC team next week if it don't. lol
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By Dwaggienite on 04 Apr 2015 10:50
Good tips man, I wrote the guide for the 360 version and you basically hit the nail on the head, I just got this achievement with 21 minutes and it's ALOT harder than it's predecessor +1 from me:)
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By bigsmok3r on 04 Apr 2015 12:49
Nice one bigsmok3r :)
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By Dwaggienite on 04 Apr 2015 13:31
well done TSG Dwaggie & bigsmok3r...finding this v tough..the ball streak as you say is critical... i was at 11 mins 3 balls on table, missed a couple pots and i just made it to 13 mins...just an eg to how things can change if you lose the streak...ty for the guide
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By shammy1975 on 05 Apr 2015 20:31
I know I broke my streak during the attempt I got this one for 360. I'd agree this seems more difficult on XONE for whatever reason. So many unlucky spawns where you can get a close triangle of balls or whatever.

As an additional tip, if you can break groupings of drops by bouncing the cue off a straight shot, do it ASAP.
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By Corazair on 07 Apr 2015 05:35
I never held onto my time stopper i always popped it whenever on the pool fx so im looking forward to tackling this again, the other achievement with NO aiming guide for 20 min end is a whole nother story though... It may join my handful of achievements i may never get... Im looking at you deathsmiles,robotron,rush'n'attack,bejewled2 and a bunch of ddr.

Seriously no guide, i just dunno....
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By NINja277 on 08 Apr 2015 09:27
Thanks for the tips! (Haven't started it yet, can't vote.)

The vote system is an issue, but at least it isn't as easy to troll as it was. The way it used to be, to keep a gold badge, you needed 9 up for every 1 down. I agree that 4 downs is total BS, but you're still helping people on this. Don't let a couple of asshats get to you.

That, or add a space every once in a while and click to notify the negative voters. wink
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By Sashamorning on 08 Apr 2015 23:00
Trying to do this with no aiming assist is going to be a real pain lol. redface

Thanks for the tips nevertheless! +1
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By EmG v SprayZz on 11 Apr 2015 20:09
To those who played the original and got this how to the controls compare between the two as far as shot setup, adding curve and backspin to the shot? I assume its very similar to the original
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By NINja277 on 22 Apr 2015 21:36
I disagree with the notion a perfect run is needed, i screwed up my streak twice on my run one of them being around the 14 min mark.

Trick shots are your friend along with ball streak, a jump shot with a swerve seems to be worth potting 2-3 balls, combo shots as well seem to be worth 2-3. The real trick for those is being proficient in setting them up as the controls can be tricky.
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By NINja277 on 16 May 2015 19:41
You know it's a fucking bitch when you get 19:57 cry
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By Waggie5150 on 28 May 2015 13:34
Just a hint from my side, as I was trying to get this one on easy level 3 times no luck. I tried the insane level and I got it with the first try :) It was easier for me to keep my streak as there were always more balls on the table. I missed the first time when it was 19:20 on the clock... it was still enough to reach 20:40 :) Good luck!!
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By Cyp12 on 12 Jun 2015 05:01
+1 from me. oh and well done on getting the no aims one as well Dwagg. don't worry about the negs either dude. haters gotta hate and all that :). i think the site should force feedback for votes or something so at least the guide creator understands what someones beef is...
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By MarkyV78 on 20 Jul 2015 09:57
+1!
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By C64 Mat on 11 Oct 2015 07:52
Got this third try after a 19:59.7 and a 19:59.0 shock but good guide +1
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By Ethel on 13 May 2016 16:35
Can you explain how this is now much easier please??
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By WOODY2211 on 16 Jan 2017 01:19
@Woody2211 They completely changed the amount of time you get, how often the balls get put down, etc. It's far easier because of this.
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By Dwaggienite on 16 Jan 2017 09:10
Thanks for the tips, especially about keeping the streak alive. +1 :)
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By KiRRAYNE on 01 Dec 2017 14:31
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The video below shows a full 20 minute run for the Super Zen achievement including it unlocking at the end. I have added counters to show the number of balls in the current break/streak as well the number of balls required to activate each drop shooter stopper.


The counters illustrate how the length of the break/streak is inversely proportional to the number of potted balls between Drop Shot Stopper activations. i.e. longer streak equals fewer balls required to activate the Drop Shot Stopper. There are break points around 6 and 13 minutes, at these times the number of balls that drop increases as well.

Making long pots also helps to fill the Drop Shot Stopper bar, but maintaining the break/streak is more important IMO. You can also use skill shots as well to fill the Drop Shot Stopper bar faster, I didn't rely on that method in the video.

Skill shots are more risky than normal shots and are most useful if you lose the break/streak. They can help you activate the Drop Shot Stopper quickly and reduce the number of balls on the table. This will benefit you more if you are closer to the 20 minutes rather than earlier in the run, depending on your skill level.

Tips
I used mainly first person view and occasionally top down view to get alignment for the more difficult shots. I didn't use fine adjustment to save time. I used the default power on most shots by pressing cn_RSu. I began lining up the next shot once I had control of the camera. I didn't use side spin. Stick sensitivity was set at maximum. I turned the music off to improve concentration. I used my experience of real world pool and snooker to be aware of possible upcoming shots in advance.

I prioritised shot accuracy and thus break/streak building over increased shot rate. Once the steak is lost the balls drop very quickly and you lose control of the table as it quickly fills with balls. You have more time than you realise, don't rush.

On the break I used full power and no spin to pot the first ball. I maintained a streak (from the break) of 104 balls for over 17 minutes. As the break/streak progressed the number of balls required to activate the Drop Shot Stopper went from 6 or 7 down to 2 or 3.

I activated the Drop Shot Stopper 32 times during the run.

If the table was becoming depleted of balls I delayed potting while the Drop Shot Stopper was activated to keep an appropriate number of ball and thus potting options available. Effectively that gives you up to 15/16 "free" seconds on the table. Be aware that clearing the table causes 3 balls to drop at the same time.
If you are becoming overwhelmed with balls on the table then pot as many balls as you can while the Drop Shot Stopper is active.

This video was the result of many failed attempts and shows the difficulty of this achievement, my best time before this was 17 minutes. Good luck.
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21 Jul 2015 14:31

From the main menu, select Endurance and make sure that you turn aiming aids off. It doesn't matter what difficulty you play on, you can still unlock this, and the other endurance achievements. So go for Easy, which mainly only affects the speed of which balls drop on your table.

The aim of endurance mode is to pot balls quicker than new ones appear on your table. You want to only really go for balls that are either near pockets or lined up straight with the cue ball and the pocket. If there is nothing on, try setting up your next pot, rather than going for long hopeful shots that hardly ever come off.

Every so often you will get a 'Ball Stop Dropper' to use. This will appear on the bottom right of the screen saying push cn_B to use. As indicated, this stops balls appearing on your screen for 15 seconds. You can elect to save this for when your getting close to your limit of 24 on the table, however please note that you don't build up your next ball stopper until you have used your current one.

If you reach 20 minutes at the Endurance table you will also unlock all the following achievements:

Pool Nation FXNirvana No AimzThe Nirvana No Aimz achievement in Pool Nation FX worth 130 pointsPlay your first game of Endurance - No Aiming aid

Pool Nation FXZen 4The Zen 4 achievement in Pool Nation FX worth 27 pointsReach 4 minutes in Endurance

Pool Nation FXZen 4 No AimzThe Zen 4 No Aimz achievement in Pool Nation FX worth 50 pointsReach 4 minutes in Endurance with no aiming aid

Pool Nation FXZen 8The Zen 8 achievement in Pool Nation FX worth 36 pointsReach 8 minutes in Endurance

Pool Nation FXZen 8 - No AimzThe Zen 8 - No Aimz achievement in Pool Nation FX worth 92 pointsReach 8 minutes in Endurance with no aiming aid

Pool Nation FXZen 12The Zen 12 achievement in Pool Nation FX worth 67 pointsReach 12 minutes in Endurance

Pool Nation FXZen 12 No AimzThe Zen 12 No Aimz achievement in Pool Nation FX worth 149 pointsReach 12 minutes in Endurance with no aiming aid

Pool Nation FXSuper Zen No AimzThe Super Zen No Aimz achievement in Pool Nation FX worth 397 pointsReach 20 minutes in Endurance with no aiming aid


For a total of 170GS! Happy Potting!
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17 Sep 2019 11:35

People say that it is hard achievment but it is actually easy one. Only few things to make sure
1. Make sure you keep the strike going even to the last 20th minute
2. Try not to pot white ball
3. Always if possible try to pot the ball which the game is telling you as there will be less time wasted to turn around (I know some of them sometimes are hard ones so then you can change to different ball).
4. Also change difficulty to easiest one and cue line to extended.

If you do this it should come easily! :)
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21 May 2017 11:49

It’s better to do it at the EASY difficulty level, so as not to fill the entire table with balls. At this difficulty level, balls will appear less frequently.
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22 Apr 2022 05:45