Red Dead Redemption
95 Achievements
1,500
85-111h
No Dice
Complete a game of Liar's Dice without losing a single die.
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How to unlock the No Dice achievement in Red Dead Redemption - Definitive Guide
It comes down to luck a lot but having higher numbers are good because the AI thinks it more rare to get higher numbers so use those to your advantage, but be honest.
Coming off from the first hint I found it good to never bluff and just be honest the whole time and say what you have cause the AI, depending on how it acts, will often call a bluff.
I got it when I was just playing against one person, it makes the game much quicker and easier to predict what is true and what is a bluff.
Pay attention to previous bids, one time the AI called that there were 2 threes and then a turn later said there were 4, so clearly he was bluffing. So pay close attention to the bids as you may catch a slip up.
Most of all I just wanna reinforce that you should really do this with just one opponent as it becomes vastly easier.
The way I got this was by playing at Thieves Landing. The Liar's Dice Table is in the corner of the saloon, by the blackjack table. All I did was just say how many of a certain number I had (I never bluffed), and the guy I was playing called my bluff every time.
The way I got this was by playing at Thieves Landing. The Liar's Dice Table is in the corner of the saloon, by the blackjack table. All I did was just say how many of a certain number I had (I never bluffed), and the guy I was playing called my bluff every time.
Once you start playing the best tip would be to not bluff unless you have to. The AI wasnt to smart and it took me just a few minutes to beat him, get the deed for the mission and unlock the achievement.
Also, On a side note. the following is from Red Dead Wiki:
Each round of Liar's Dice in Thieves' Landing during "Lights, Camera, Action" will cost everyone at the table a whopping $200 -- ten times the normal ante amount. Because you can ante indefinitely, this is the single most profitable opportunity in the game. You can spend real hours amassing a ridiculous fortune. (Playing for the better part of the day yielded this editor over $50,000.) To maximize your profits, the best strategy is to ensure that you're playing one-on-one with deed holder Lyle Mouton. Chances are another man might be at the table, so if you save before entering the saloon and keep reloading that save, you'll eventually be able to land a match with Mouton alone. You may periodically get up from the table to engage Autosave to preserve your growing earnings, and Lyle will stay seated for you to repeatedly join him at that $200 ante. As long as you don't leave the saloon and save elsewhere, Lyle (and his awful AI strategy) is there for the taking, indefinitely! Once Lyle leaves the table and the mission enters the Spatchcock phase, antes return to normal.
Hope this helps
The strategy for liars dice is to either call opponents bluffs or predict their bid as being true. Doing either of those will cause them to lose a die. If you are wrong, i.e., you call a bluff but there are at least as many die as they bid, then you lose a die. You also lose a die if you call a "Spot On" and there are not exactly that number of die. Declaring a "Spot On" is a risky move but depending on how the game plays out, it may be a wise choice.
For starters, when you are making a bid try to remain truthful. I have never had the AI call "Spot On" on me. If they bid too high for you to remain truthful, examine your die, take into account how many they have on the table, and figure if it would be safe to fugde a bid, call their bluff, or , in rare, CALCULATED cases, declare a spot on.
As your opponents die count drops the game becomes much easier, letting you spot obvious bluffs. If they say there are three 6's on the table and they only have two die you know they are lying.
If you lose a die I would still recommend playing the game out. The more you play the more you understand the game mechanics and the easier it becomes.
It is actually a fun parlor game to play and waste time as well.
The strategy for liars dice is to either call opponents bluffs or predict their bid as being true. Doing either of those will cause them to lose a die. If you are wrong, i.e., you call a bluff but there are at least as many die as they bid, then you lose a die. You also lose a die if you call a "Spot On" and there are not exactly that number of die. Declaring a "Spot On" is a risky move but depending on how the game plays out, it may be a wise choice.
For starters, when you are making a bid try to remain truthful. I have never had the AI call "Spot On" on me. If they bid too high for you to remain truthful, examine your die, take into account how many they have on the table, and figure if it would be safe to fugde a bid, call their bluff, or , in rare, CALCULATED cases, declare a spot on.
As your opponents die count drops the game becomes much easier, letting you spot obvious bluffs. If they say there are three 6's on the table and they only have two die you know they are lying.
If you lose a die I would still recommend playing the game out. The more you play the more you understand the game mechanics and the easier it becomes.
It is actually a fun parlor game to play and waste time as well.
Once you have found the right table, simply play conservatively and keep track of how many dice each player has left. In the beginning makes your bets based on what you have in your cup and let the other two raise from there. Generally one will call bluff on you for what you know you have or call bluff on your other opponent
If you don't go first, pay attention to what the other two bet. It is rare for them to bluff on their first bet, so they likely are telling you what they have. Add what you have of that number to their bet and place that bet.
Once you get ahead by a couple dice, the above strategy plays out very easily. The hardest part is just making it through the first couple rounds. Later in the game you are more likely to need to use the "exact bet" wager. If the player before you makes a bet you don't know you can beat, don't bluff, just call it as exact. More often that not you'll win and both opponents will lose a die.
The other strategy to remember is to just sit down with enough to play through several games. If you lose a die, don't quit but play it out. It will help you refine the strategy. In addition, at the end of the game you can replay against the same number of opponents if you don't stand up.
Once you have found the right table, simply play conservatively and keep track of how many dice each player has left. In the beginning makes your bets based on what you have in your cup and let the other two raise from there. Generally one will call bluff on you for what you know you have or call bluff on your other opponent
If you don't go first, pay attention to what the other two bet. It is rare for them to bluff on their first bet, so they likely are telling you what they have. Add what you have of that number to their bet and place that bet.
Once you get ahead by a couple dice, the above strategy plays out very easily. The hardest part is just making it through the first couple rounds. Later in the game you are more likely to need to use the "exact bet" wager. If the player before you makes a bet you don't know you can beat, don't bluff, just call it as exact. More often that not you'll win and both opponents will lose a die.
The other strategy to remember is to just sit down with enough to play through several games. If you lose a die, don't quit but play it out. It will help you refine the strategy. In addition, at the end of the game you can replay against the same number of opponents if you don't stand up.
First and foremost, it is far easier to win at this game when playing against only ONE opponent. The dynamics of bid escalation, guesswork, and AI tendencies make it so that your best chance in this game lies in a simple duel. After all, this game involves mathematical probability; it's easier when the table's total dice count is 10 instead of 15. Also, it's easier to read one mind rather than two.
Note that NPCs rarely, if ever, call out a bluff on bids lower than four of anything. For example if you bid that there is at least 3 fives, the NPC(s) will rarely ever call out that bluff. It may be different if facing only one NPC.
The exception is if they don't possess at least 1 die of the face value you are betting on, even if you're betting there's 2, they will say you are bluffing. This leads to one of the easiest winning strategies (for one on one especially) which is to just tell the truth and bet whatever doubles/triples you have, most of the time they lack a dice of the same value and will call your non-existent bluff, leading to an easy (and reliably repeatable) win. In a game with 3 players, if they DO have a die of the same value, they will raise the bet to a higher value and almost always get called bluffing by the 3rd player, either way resulting in your dice laying untouched.
When bidding, seek out multiple dice with the same number, i.e. three 4s, and bid what you have. If you haven't got any multiples, bid one of your singles. It's often good to bid on your lower dice, to leave headroom for subsequent bids to cover the higher-valued dice (i.e. if you have 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, bid there is one 1 -- if the opponent bids two 2s, because you have a 2 yourself, you can then either call spot-on or raise the bid to three 2s if you think there's another 2 out there).
The best approach is to bid what you have (or one less than what you have) and avoid bluffing -- avoid guessing (or hoping) your opponent has one more of the die you need. Although, sometimes the NPC might surprise you!
NPCs very often call your bluff, not believing you when you say you have 2 or 3 or more of a particular die. They may also be forced into an obvious bluff (i.e. you bid three 6s, then they jump the bid to five 6s).
NPCs rarely, if ever, use the Spot On bid, so the player can gain a sizeable advantage by learning to use spot-on properly. It is confirmed that, at least in one-on-one matches, your NPC opponent NEVER uses the spot-on bid!
If you can get your opponent down to one die remaining, the game is in the bag. The NPC will ALWAYS bid the value of their die honestly during their initial bid. Their bid's quantity might vary between one or two, but the bid's face value is always the truth. If they bid one 2, they have one 2; if they bid two 4s, they have one 4. Therefore, if they bid two 6s and you have one 6 yourself, you can successfully bid spot-on because you know the total is two 6s. If they bid two 6s and you have none, by the process of elimination you know they are lying. If they bid two 6s and you have three of your own, you can raise the bid to three or four 6's; they will either either erroneously call your bluff, or raise it to an impossible amount where you'd know they were lying. Also, if you have a pair of something other than the value they bid (i.e. they bid one 2 and you have two 4s), bid on your pair; they will always erroneously call your bluff.
In summary, because NPCs often call bluffs they shouldn't, and they often make their own obvious bluffs, and they NEVER (at least in one-on-one matches) use spot-on bidding, and their endgame strategy is awful, as they will always say what they actually have as their last die, and so you can either go spot-on if you don't have the same die or if you do raise the number, and then the NPC will raise again, which doesn't make sense so this game can easily be mastered.
Lasso and hogtie any extra players, then sit at the table to win against the remaining NPC.
Other NPCs will only draw their guns when using a lasso, if your Fame and Honor are positively high enough.
Surprising this isn't mentioned in the other guides and it's May 2018.
Keep it honest & bid with what you already have, then increase by +1 until they call bluff. If they still raise the bid higher to an unlikely number, then you call bluff. (only when they exaggerate)
No Dice Trophy - RDR1 (EASY)
This mini-game is based off of pure luck. The whole point is to guess how many of the die faces have the same number when revealed. The best way to tackle the game is to place honest bets on your own dice. Follow the in-game tutorial and play several games to get the hang of how the game works. If the AI numbers seem honest, such as two low number dice faces, it could be correct. This isn't always true but it does seem to be a running pattern.
Holding onto all five of your dice is very difficult in a game of chance so keep at it until you knock the AI out of the game.
You will find Liar's Dice in the following locations:
- Thieves' Landing
- Casa Madrugada
- Escalera
This game is quite fun but kind of confusing if you don't know how to play. You start off with 5, six-sided "dies" which is your dice. The point is to bid on the face and quantity of dice there is in the whole table. You can find liar's dice in saloon's and the first opportunity to play Liar's Dice will be in Thieves' Landing.
Start off the bid with the quantity on x5 and my face on 5. The next bidder can either raise the bid to a higher quantity or a higher face with the same quantity of the previous bid. Keep in mind that you can bluff by bidding on more quantities even if you don't have that many in your cup. If you do this and another player calls a bluff then each player reveals their dice, all quantities and faces combine to your bid. Lets say that you bid x6 on the number 5 face and you only have x5, 5 faced Dice but another player has the same face you bid on, then it will count towards your bid and make your bid true. If it's false then it's considered a bluff and you will lose a die.
The best strategy I found was to always be honest and start off your quantity to be high, it usually causes the next bidder to exaggerate and make a bluff thus causing him to lose a die. Also try to make all players to lose dies on each other. Best way to do this is by being honest and bidding on a low quantity and low face. Sometimes you will have to lie and make a bluff, the A.I usually calls your bluff so be careful and only use it if you think they might have your faced bid. Just be honest and play smart and you won't have a problem getting this. If you lose a die then try not to quit the game, get to know how the game is played as it really is a great game.
Here is a visual walkthrough, credit goes to leadexample: