Rogue Legacy

Rogue Legacy

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Scotomaphobia

Scotomaphobia

Defeat the doppleganger.

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How to unlock the Scotomaphobia achievement in Rogue Legacy - Definitive Guide

Originally posted on my blog at http://takeaimandgame.blogspot.com/

This achievement is for defeating Neo Khidr, the remixed version of the game's first boss (in the Castle area of the map).

To unlock this boss fight, you must defeat Khidr and then obtain the Khidr Obol, which is a random item you might receive when praying at shrine. Because it's random, you may need to pray several times before you find one. Just keep at it.

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The next time you try to enter the castle, Charon will comment on the Obol and take it from you.

Next, you need to find the Castle boss room. Usually the doors to boss rooms will be closed after you defeat the boss, but once you give Charon the corresponding Obol, the room will reopen. If you enter, you'll be taken to this special remixed boss fight.

The remixed bosses are the hardest challenges in the game by far. In each, you'll play as a special character, so you can't just grind out gold to get a better dude.

How about some good news? If you try the fight and fail, you'll be plopped down right outside the boss door. This means that you'll be able to retry very quickly, a small upside for facing such daunting battles.

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For Neo Khidr, you get Lady McSwordy, a level 0 Spellsword with ADHD (so she moves faster) and Vertigo (though she's wearing Nerdy Glasses to cancel that effect). Her basic stats are:

248 HP
50 MP
35 Strength
232 Intelligence

and she comes equipped with several runes:

Vault (double jump)
Sprint (dash)
Siphon (gain MP for kills - totally irrelevant here)
Bounty (more gold from drops - also irrelevant)
Haste (moves faster)

For the more visually inclined, here's a screenshot of her stat page:
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Basic Strategy
This fight is brutal. While Neo Khidr's attack patterns are the same as the original, the smaller arena and more aggressive attacks (less downtime between attacks, more projectiles when he does attack) make survival tricky.

The most basic element of the strategy is to spam the "Empowered" version of her spell. empowered spells are cast using the "Special" attack for the character (cn_Y for the Xbox One). Each use costs 30 MP, but hitting him with your sword recovers 10 MP.

For reference, however, a regular attack deals 35 damage; the empowered spell deals 232 damage 6 times. You're only using normal attacks to get the MP necessary to use the empowered spell.

Also note that the normal version of the spell only deals 116 damage 6 times. You could use it, but it'll take twice as long to defeat him.

So, the plan is to jump around the stage dodging projectiles and hit him with your empowered spell. Use regular attacks to recover MP.

Attack Patterns
Now, the Khidrs have three basic attack patterns:

First, he'll fire his projectiles out in a spiraling pattern, either moving clockwise or counterclockwise. Once you get the hang of it, this is actually the easiest attack to dodge. The basic plan here is to dash over the spikes on the bottom of the stage or over Khidr itself to make it to safety. You'll have to play around with it a little bit to get a feel for where you should stand and how you should move, but it will mostly screw you up when you're not in a good position when he starts this attack.

The reason you may not be in a good position is that you may have been dodging his second attack pattern - firing projectiles outward in a uniform pattern. The problem here is that the projectiles start close enough together that you're going to need to be in one of the corners of the room to avoid them. The easiest place to do this is in the upper corners while standing on one of the floating platforms, but if you're up there when he starts the spiral attack, you're almost certainly going to get hit. You'll need to use the double jump ability to maneuver around this pattern.

The best attack pattern is the one where it fires projectiles outward in a random pattern. This is the best simply because it has the largest gaps between projectiles, meaning you're most likely to be able to get in some good damage. In fact, you may occasionally not need to move off one of the floating patterns during this attack, allowing you to do some serious damage.

In the end, dodging Neo Khidr's attacks takes some mastery of both double jumping and dashing. I actually found that the controls were a little too sensitive at times, so I was accidentally dashing at really bad times.

You'll have to practice to get the controls and important moves down. I recommend waiting until you've completed a New Game +; at that point, you will likely be pretty adept at dodging attacks, so you won't have as big a gap to cross to be able to beat this thing.

Furthermore, I recommend practicing this fight repeatedly until you get there. It's a quick one, and if you die, the game drops you right outside the room again, so you can retry very quickly. Obviously you should take a break if you're getting overly frustrated, but keeping at it will get you there eventually.

To show some of these ideas in action, here's a short clip I recorded using the default Xbox One DVR. It shows some of the maneuvers, but I only got the second half of the fight.


If I can figure out how the DVR thing works, I might go back and try to record a full run.

Quick Summary
-Spam the Empowered Spell ability, as that's what will deal the most damage.
-Use regular attacks to regenerate MP.
-Survival is the most important thing - focus on dodging its projectiles, and only attack when you get a brief opening.
-For the spiral attacks, dodge with combinations of double jumps and dashes, going either over or under its body as appropriate.
-For the uniform outward attack, try to get into one of the corners and double jump to avoid projectiles.
-For the random outward attack, try to get onto one of the floating platforms and attack as much as possible.

Let me know if you have any questions about any of these tips or if you have any suggestions of your own.

Good luck!
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29 May 2015 21:46

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Yeah, that was tough, probably took me 40 to 50 tries.
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By EarthboundX on 25 Jun 2017 05:37
Shoutout to Danny Dubs 86 for giving such a great guide and explanation to the fight, refer to his post for all needed info I personally just wanna say this is very difficult and it’s very likely to take a while, but as always practice makes perfect and the more you try the more likely you are to succeed but there will be times that RNG destroys you and there’s nothing you can do about it, so you have to adapt to learning to dodge each move set but also have to get lucky.

This is my winning attempt for anyone wanting to see the full fight (this took me hours to do)

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14 Oct 2021 19:57

Neo Khidr is a upgraded version of the first boss Khidr. In oder to beat this bos you'll need to become an expert at dodging.
Neo Khdir has three attack patterns:
The First one is a spiral one that can go in eihter direction, the second and third ones are a evenly spread and a random spread burst pattern. The spiral pattern will at first appear to be the most difficult one but can be dodged nearly every time once you get used to them. The second and third pattern are the ones you'll have to look out for.
Expect to retry this fight many times.
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04 Feb 2015 22:38

The doppelgänger refers to Neo Khidr, the remixed version of the first boss. In order to fight this remixed boss, you need to give Khidr's Obol to Charon. Khidr's Obol is randomly acquired from Spiritual Shrines after you have defeated the regular version of Khidr (see Ommetaphobia for information on fighting the original). Once you give the Obol to Charon, the boss door will reopen in Castle Hamson.

You will earn this trophy once you have defeated Neo Khidr. Unlike the original boss fight, you do not restart with a new character when you die against this boss. Instead you respawn right outside the boss room. Another difference is that you are given a specific character for this fight, so you can attempt this boss fight regardless of your level.

Neo Khidr is all about dodging. Before you start fighting him I would suggest spending 10-15 minutes just practising how to dodge. In this fight you can triple jump and dash which is necessary for dodging some of his spirals. Finally, using you can spawn a large sword which does significantly more damage.[/spoiler]

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*MISSABLE*

The reason I have flagged this achievement as missable is because there is no free roam or any way to access your playthrough again after you beat the final boss. Once you defeat the final boss, you'll be forced to start New Game+ immediately, and you will have to meet the requirements below all over again to get this achievement.

This achievement is for beating the remixed version of Khidr. To access the remixed version of this boss, first you need to beat the standard version. Once done, you now need to find a Shrine Statue anywhere (on the current run or any subsequent run) and hope that the item you get from the Shrine is Khidr's Obol. This is complete RNG, both with finding a Shrine and getting the Obol, but my experience was that the game was pretty good about granting you the Obol when you were after it. Just ensure that once you get the Obol, you don't accidentally replace it with a different item from a different Shrine. Once you die and are back outside, talk to Charon to give him the Obol. This will open the boss door for Khidr in the Castle permanently (meaning on all subsequent runs, so you don't have to worry about beating it on this next run). Now, when you return to the boss door in the Castle and enter it, you'll be able to fight the remixed version, Neo Khidr. Like all remixed boss fights, you play as a set character (so you don't need to wait until you level up more, and you can't build up your character to be stronger against the boss) and if you die, you're put right back outside the boss door with no penalty (you don't lose any money or progress, and can attempt again right away as many times as you want). 

Neo Khidir actually has the exact same attacks as Khidr. There are only two differences with this fight:
 
  • There are spikes in the middle of the floor now
  • Neo Khidr doesn't pause between attacks at all, like Khidr did, and his attacks are way faster (projectiles shoot faster) 
  • The real challenge with this fight is how nonstop his attacks are, giving you no time to safely counter attack. Instead, you're forced to attack and dodge at the same time, constantly moving and trying to get his in. 
For this fight, it is absolutely critical to realize that the way to do the most damage to Neo Khidr is by pressing button-y.png to drop a blade wall on him. This does damage over time, but does significantly more damage than your regular melee attack. With the preset character you're playing as, regular attacks restore mana. The strategy for this fight therefore becomes: use button-y.png to drop a blade wall, then do at least two or three regular attacks to regain mana, then immediately another blade wall. You need to be using blade wall as soon as you have enough mana. The purpose of your sword attack is just to restore mana for blade wall, since hits barely damage him. Keep dropping blade walls as soon as you can and never forgot to do so. 

Since his attacks are the same, the way you avoided them originally is the same. Really the only challenging one is the spiral shots, since they go very fast now. No matter what, it's going to take some practice to get the timing down, because you're going to need to dash and jump very quickly and precisely to stay between the projectiles. You'll undoubtedly die a lot until you get the timing down for dodging the spiral projectiles. Once you can do that, just keep spamming blade wall and you'll be able to take him down. Once you defeat him and open the chest, you'll get a medallion piece and this achievement. 
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