The Dark Pictures Anthology: Little Hope

The Dark Pictures Anthology: Little Hope

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The Odd Couple

The Odd Couple

Maximized Angela and John's Relationship

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How to unlock the The Odd Couple achievement in The Dark Pictures Anthology: Little Hope - Definitive Guide

Alright, this achievement was a bitch to get in the solo theatrical cut, but I have finally figured out that it is indeed possible and you don't need to do shared story. Here's how I got it done.

- In "Confrontation" when playing as Angela, do not go with John into the fog. I know, you would think that would be the right choice to increase their relationship, BUT the other option actually gives you a bigger boost. Selecting the opposite of going into the fog will give you a 2nd dialogue option where you need to pick for Angela to say that it's about time John did the right thing. It doesn't matter what you say to Daniel after this though.

- Again in "Confrontation", do not say you don't want to go into the town and then obviously side with Andrew over Taylor about if they should split up or not.

- In "Off Track", DON'T get the gun as Andrew. This is to make sure you don't accidently kill Angela later.

- In "The Crossing", have John agree to go across the bridge first and then reassure Angela that they'll get her across. Later on in this chapter after the flashback, make sure NOT to tell Angela what happened in the flashback or you'll lose points with her.

- Now make sure Angela survives the bridge attack and then later also manages to escape into the sewers as she obviously needs to be alive for later.

- This step doesn't have to do with John or Angela, but is important. In "Pursued", do not pick up the knife as Daniel. The reason for this is that both Daniel and Taylor need to die in this playthrough to get a hidden boost between John and Angela later in the game. You can get Daniel and Taylor killed at the same time in "Low Point", which is what I'll cover next.

- In "Low Point", you'll automatically get a increase between John and Angela when everyone is reunited. If you didn't grab the gun earlier, you won't even have an option to shoot her, but if you decided to take the gun anyway, then don't have John tell Andrew to shoot.

- Later in "Low Point", you'll be playing as Andrew and find both Daniel and Taylor being attacked by their demons. Select to help Daniel and fail all the QTEs until he dies. Because Taylor doesn't have the knife to protect her, she will also automatically die. This is another point where just not having the gun is safer because I'm not sure if it'll mess anything up here.

- In "Ruined", while right outside the factory before going in, John will talk with the group about his plan. First select the left option and then select the right option about stopping Mary. This will make Angela chime in about how she agrees with the plan and gain an increase in their relationship. This increase is not possible if Daniel and Taylor are still alive for whatever reason, so this is why we needed to kill them.

- Finally, in "Heavy Burden", after the flashback you'll be switching between Angela and John and this is where the achievement should unlock if you do everything right. Have Angela be reassuring to John and tell him to hurry up rather than leaving him behind. As John, complete the first two QTEs against his demon. You'll then switch to Angela, complete her two QTEs as well. When you switch back to John after that, fail this QTE. This will cause the sledgehammer to be knocked away by the demon. You'll then switch to Angela again and will have a QTE to throw the sledgehammer back to John. The increase here will be what finally pushes their relationship to max and earns the achievement.
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The guide worked exactly as intended. Thanks a bunch!
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By Sharpnificent on 19 Nov 2020 07:53
Annoying achievement to do in solo way Easier in shared story.
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By SWEAT ALOT on 03 Nov 2020 02:48
Ugh I just BARELY missed out on getting this in solo mode, probably because I went with John into the foggy bridge. Their relationship bar was like one tic away from being full at the end, and I was about to give up hope because thought it might be impossible to do in solo mode. Thanks for posting this! Going to give it another try today following this guide.
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By DenverMax27 on 03 Nov 2020 14:09
If you have the gun during "Low Point", you can still let Daniel and Taylor die in the pivotal scene. When the aim comes up for the gun, just don't press anything and it fails like a normal QTE. They then both die. I moved the aim away from the demons to be safe too. smile
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By Skaos3010 on 03 Nov 2020 16:30
Confirmed! Finally got this stupid achievement by following the above guide! clap
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By DenverMax27 on 03 Nov 2020 21:08
Couple points to help people that deviated from the guide. You can let Daniel die outside the church, and Taylor die outside the firefly house, and still get the right conversation prompt outside the factory.

You can also succeed all of John's sledgehammer QTE's. Angela will come hit the demon with a log for the final relationship boost, same as if he dropped the hammer and she threw it back to him.
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By Remjexhai on 04 Nov 2020 16:46
Did above guide to the point but after killing daniel and taylor I choose left and right option about stopping mary, angela speaks for john´s decision but no raise to their relationship at all...

only difference is I had a gun, because I´m going for all death at ruined house /some achievements are really weird because killing all at ruined house doesn´t work... the need to give up when fighting their demons and asks for helps....
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By New xDante1986 on 04 Nov 2020 23:26
Can confirm this guide works. Thanks a lot.
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By Arwing1979 on 15 Nov 2020 23:42
Worked great, thumps up for the guide.
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By OFUNBlack on 29 Dec 2020 15:00
I did everything in the guide except, I kept the gun. There was no relationship increase at the factory after Taylor and Daniel died but I still was able to fill the meter with the reassuring option and sledgehammer throw.

Thanks for the help 🖖
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By Boohma on 02 Jan 2021 06:45
There's one important thing that needs to be added: in "The Crossing", while crossing the bridge, you get a flashback. After this flashback, you must not tell Angela that her "double" drowned (left option), which would have a negative impact on her relationship with John and, therefore, possibly void the achievement. You need to pick the option on the right side instead.

Anyway, 👍 from me.
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By CoreScan on 19 Feb 2021 13:55
The Crossing step is in the guide already
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By Alex Sobecki on 24 Feb 2021 10:52
@greggo mcgee, did what you said and got the increase, thank you
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By Fuelled by Beer on 18 Sep 2021 14:53
I'm just about to play through again to get this & the Altogether achievements. One thing I have noticed is if John doesn't tell Angela about Amy's execution at the bridge the meter goes up but later in the game she finds out & asks why she wasn't told before & the meter drops then.
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By InkedGizmo on 22 Sep 2021 16:49
Perfect guide thanks. You can have the gun no problem. I had it and shot outside the marker and Andrew will miss the shot and both Daniel and Taylor died. The key is to not take the knife as Daniel at museum
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By supkris on 04 Jan 2022 14:10
I got it without having to kill Taylor and Daniel. I was following Neoseeker's walkthrough, which shows the affinity results for every dialogue and hit every dialogue that raised their affinity while avoiding all that lowered it. I think the major difference from this solution is that having the gun and having John say to put it away when Andrew is about to shoot her causes a boost to their affinity.
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By GhostJohn325 on 12 Mar 2023 05:40
Worked perfectly! Was the last achievement I needed for completion! Thank you!
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By TheCRod666 on 25 Feb 2024 18:18
I followed the guide, had the gun, and ran into the same problem as xDante. This guide is missing one thing:

During the flashback in Reflections, where Andrew's double isn't sure how to proceed, choose to blame Mary. If you choose to blame Carver, you won't get the needed dialogue choices to increase your relationship with Angela.

Once I blamed Mary, in Ruined, I picked the Impatient dialogue choice, and then the following Heart choice. (They were both the right-sided choices for me).

That increased my relationship with Angela.
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By GREGO McGEE on 24 Dec 2020 00:53
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This will take some careful planning, and with the proper set up, will likely come as part of a partial playthrough after saving everyone. I recommend you do the following steps as part of your Save Everyone playthrough, so you won't have to go back and do this part again.

- Early in the game, be supportive of John going into the fog (do not go into it with him; telling him to be careful and staying behind actually increases the relationship more), and say he did the right thing when Andrew talks to Angela about it.
- Choose to go with John and Andrew into town when everyone splits up.
- As John, reassure Angela that they'll be safe.
- After the flashback on the bridge, don't tell Angela about seeing her dead double (just let the timer run out).
- Once Angela returns to the group after escaping her monster in the sewers, there should be a relationship increase and it should say "Angela expressed relief that she was safely reunited with Andrew and John"

Now you can finish your Save Everyone playthrough. Once you're done, go back to the Low Point chapter, and you'll be playing through the rest of the game again, following these steps:

- As Andrew, choose to save Daniel first, but fail all of the QTEs. Next fail the QTEs for saving Taylor (this may be optional)
- During the flashback in Reflections, where Andrew's double isn't sure how to proceed, choose to blame Mary.
- When you reach the factory in Ruined, pick the Impatient dialogue choice, and then the following Heart choice.
- Finally, when John is attacked outside of the ruined house, have Angela stay to help John. Complete John's first two QTEs, and then complete Angela's two QTEs. When it switches back to John, fail the QTE, and then as Angela, throw the hammer back to John.

This should be enough to get you the trophy (thanks to Azedrun and KHDelBoy for this method).

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Single player, normal playthrough:

Having received all the advantages from the above and not received any disadvantages, the trophy will drop before the last battle ends.
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If you have a gun in the forest. And John will have the choice to shoot or put the gun away. Then you need to remain silent. Then John and Angela's relationship will improve.
It's a choice to kill Angela in the dark or not.
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By Ricochet on 05 Jun 2021 20:57
I just checked, killing Daniel and Taylor is not necessary; if you complete all the other steps, the trophy will still drop.
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By Eridan on 14 Jan 2021 09:07
I did everything except the first point. At the first point I went into the fog with John. There was a millimeter missing from the relationship at the end. Even the battle with knocking out the sledgehammer didn't help. Keep in mind.
It even happened to me that some of the same lines did not give an increase if the relationship was at max. level for this place.
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