The Flame in the Flood

The Flame in the Flood

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Paleo Diet

Paleo Diet

You survived 40 days in Endless Mode without eating any plants

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How to unlock the Paleo Diet achievement in The Flame in the Flood - Definitive Guide

I purchased the game after the update which somewhat "fixed" this achievement.

Without ever deleting my save game, I went through campaign and a 200 day endless mode run and unlocked all achievements except Paleo Diet and Vegetarian.

During my 200 day endless mode run, I tried to unlock Paleo Diet at the same time. I definitely had more than 40 days without eating plants (from day 40 well past day 100) but the progress meter stopped at 11% and the achievement never unlocked. Thus, I believe that if you are going for this achievement and progress stops at 11% for multiple additional days, you should just restart your attempt.

After completing the 200 day run, I started a new endless mode run (without deleting my save file) focused solely on Paleo Diet and got the achievement to unlock. Here is my guide and some notes regarding its completion.

First, it is critical to understand that the game carries over all items placed in Aesop's bag to the start of a new game. (This is actually a setting activated by default in options menu.) Accordingly, if you are going for Paleo Diet, you can do one or more short games just to load Aesop's bag with jerky and cooked meat and then intentionally die before beginning your serious attempt at Paleo Diet. (This technique can also be used to load Aesop's bag with cooked yucca, etc. when going for Vegetarian.)

Upon starting your serious attempt at Paleo Diet, just as described, the critical requirement is that you do not eat any plants. As long as you have enough food and water and you are not too cold or fatigued, you can get time to run faster by sitting extra minutes in calm water after departing a location before entering the river. This will reduce the distance you travel over the same period of days, which will delay your entrance to colder regions. You will need to kill animals for pelts (as well as meat) in order to upgrade your clothing along the way to handle the cold. If you do this after completing the 200 day run, 40 days is easy.

You will see steady (but disproportionately slow) progress on the achievement. As far as I can tell, a programmer inadvertently divided the reported progress by 10. Accordingly, when the progress indicates 1% it really means 10%, etc. This is why you should assume the achievement has glitched if you get to 11% and it hasn't unlocked; you should never actually see 11% progress. Once you tick past 10%, the achievement should unlock as it did for me.

However, don't expect this to happen at exactly day 40 or 41. For me, it popped just as I hit day 42, but others report even higher numbers. As long as your achievement progress is below 11%, just keep going until either the achievement pops or it locks at 11%.

If it does lock at 11%, you should be able to start another run and have it start over at 0% as it did for me though; it won't permanently glitch. You should be able to do this without deleting your save file.

Hope this helps.
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15 Dec 2017 00:55

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Finally! 55 days and 11% on the Achievement Tracker
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By Grobanite on 20 Jul 2022 21:44
Unlocked on Day 45. Not sure what causes it to unlock late but just keep going if you’re sure you’ve only been eating meat.
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By Shadowblade1438 on 10 Jan 2024 05:19
This achievement is now unlockable but the actual amount of days is glitchy. It unlocked for me on day 47, not 42 as expected. The tracking seems to go up one percent every 4 days, but the achievement will still unlock closer to 40 than 400 days. It's unconfirmed whether this needs to be done on a fresh savefile after the update that "fixed" the achievement

To avoid eating plants means that you can only eat worms, spoiled fish (not recommended), fresh meat (also not recommended), cooked meat or jerky. If teas are allowed is unconfirmed (due to the wonky tracking) but I'd imagine it is since it's needed to cure diseases and is not strictly "eating plants".

It's unconfirmed whether the 40 days need to be in a row, or rather just 40 days in total across the playthrough. They do all need to be on the same playthrough though.

Use the environment to your advantage. Don't waste traps or arrows if snakes or bears can kill the prey for you. Constructing a camp fire for cooking is relatively cheap if you need it up until you can buy the stove upgrade on your raft.

Since jerky doesn't spoil, make as much of it as you can carry. And remember that rain is a free source of clean water, so stock up on lots of bottles and just refill them when it rains.

Staying off plants is pretty tricky until you learn the ropes, so feel free to leave it until either late in the playthrough or until you're comfortable with the game mechanics.
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07 Jun 2017 01:09

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It popped for me at the start of day 40.
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By Sashamorning on 14 Jul 2017 15:27
I had this achievement implement to about 11% then stop entirely despite me eating nothing but cooked meat and jerky with the occasional grubs or worms for several weeks of game time. Any ideas how to fix?
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By foodiddiedoo on 14 Aug 2017 14:43
foodiddiedoo did you delete your savefile before attempting it?
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By WhyattThrash on 14 Aug 2017 18:56
I am still in the middle of my 200 mile run (150 miles) and I bought the game in the sale last month, so I figure I'll finish up the 200 miles, then delete my save and try again. Not sure if that's necessary for people who bought the game after the updates?
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By foodiddiedoo on 15 Aug 2017 15:20
It seems that the exact conditions that makes it's bug out or miss days are still unclear. Deleting save files or restarting the game seems to be the only encountered remedies so far.
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By WhyattThrash on 26 Aug 2017 13:14
I can confirm that this achievement will not unlock if you try to go for it during the same run where nothing but plants are eaten for about 20 days. I proceeded forward after that eating nothing but meat, the achievement went to 11% and then did not unlock. Build up some stores of jerky on Aesop and start fresh, but you don't need to delete your save file after completing Vegetarian for it to unlock. I got this on day 47 as well.
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By foodiddiedoo on 31 Aug 2017 12:42
After 4 attempts finally got it. Deleted saves and got stuck at 11%, deleted again, farmed jerky on new save, started new game with jerky on Aesop, popped start of day 41 (No Tea used)
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By LordSamoni1 on 05 Apr 2018 12:18
Woah. Day 52 for me.
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By SPΛΙΝΤΞRCΞΛΛ on 18 Mar 2022 18:11
There is a huge glitch between the Vegetarian and the Paleo Diet achievements.

They are switched for some reason.

Updates to unlock these achievements:

Vegetarian: Eat meat for 40 Days
Paleo Diet: Eat plants for 40 Days

I am currently trying to only eat meat but the Xbox achievement tracker is only updating the Vegetarian achievement
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By DeftDapperDan on 30 Mar 2022 04:56
Well, that's... different. I don't remember it being like that before.
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By Sashamorning on 30 Mar 2022 15:46
After a few days of playtime, it seems like everything went back to normal. Except my progress for both Paleo and Vegetarian achievements got reverted back to 0%. When I unlocked "Under the Stars" achievement, I also unlocked the Paleo achievement (it was at 10%). I honestly have no idea what is going with this achievement system.

I kid you not, the Paleo and Vegetarian achievements are 100% glitched.
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By DeftDapperDan on 01 Apr 2022 06:05
54 days for me. It's whenever the tracker hits 11%, but it only worked when I started a new game (not when I tried doing it partway into a 200 mile run). Didn't delete any savefiles.

I don't know why it went slower than WhyattThrash. You can speed things up by sleeping in a shelter over and over. You can get by with a cooked meat per day, and any jerky you may have stashed from a previous run. Three jars is enough, as long as you pick up water whenever it rains.
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By Rosstafari on 26 Aug 2017 06:21
During my first run on Endless, I didn't start trying for this achievement until day 40-50. The progress ticked up to 11% and then stopped. I probably did about 70 days of meat only. It seems from posts above, if you hit 11% and it doesn't pop, you'll have to start over.

I got it by starting a new run after completing the 200 day achv. I ended the 200 day run by putting a bunch of jerky and meat on Aesop and then killing myself so the meat would carry over to the new endless game.

I started the new run eating only meat. Like the others here, the progress moved up very slowly but continuously over 40+ days to 9-10% and then the achievement suddenly popped just as I hit day 48.
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By BKLortz on 12 Dec 2017 15:42
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This isn't a guide, as the others here already do a well enough job on that, but an exploit I found by chance that helps a ton.

First, craft a torch. Now when you're on foot (not on the raft) use the left trigger and press right to see the quick use menu with the torch in it. Use the torch and you will see the circle above your head that gives you an idea of how much is left before the torch is used up.

With the torch equipped and burning, use the left trigger to bring up the menu again and highlight the torch, but don't press anything yet. Now when the circle empties the torch is extinguished and you lose it from your inventory. At least, that's what usually happens. However, at the moment the percentage on the torch reaches 0, shown by the circle being empty and even more helpful when you HEAR the sound of the torch going out, press A immediately to unequip it.

You should now be able to use the left trigger and once again look in your inventory and you should have the same torch at 0%. This torch will now last forever, no matter how long or how many times you use it. It won't appear lit but it will still have all the effects of a torch.

You're now free to explore any area without fear of attack from wolves or boars and can even use it to move snakes around to where you can use them to help you kill other animals for skins and meat.

Enjoy, and hopefully this helps someone as much as it did for me!
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19 Jun 2018 00:19

It's A Lot Of Prep Work But This Guide's Tips Will Get You "Vegetarian", "Invincible", "Paleo Diet", And "Under The Stars" In One Playthrough.

Prep Work
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Bring 50 Jerky And 5 Jars In Your Dog's Bag And Hang Around, Barely Going Downriver, For The First 20 Days. This Will Get You Vegetarian.
And Paleo Diet Will Be Easy To Get Afterwards If You Just Start Playing "Normally".

Don't Go Too Far Downriver, In Addition To The Dangers Of The World, The Game Gets Colder. If You Can't Keep Your Body Heat Up, You'll Need Clothes, And You Can't Kill Anything To Make Them For The First 20 Days.

You Lose 1000 Hunger In The First 20 Days, Afterwards Start Hunting Rabbits/Wolves/Etc.
- 10 Cooked Meat Should Get You Close To Paleo.

You Lose About 50 Hunger, ~65 Thirst, And ~65 Fatigue A Day. So Plan Accordingly

Pro Tips And Helpful Hints
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Catch Rain Water With Your Jar/Jars.

Wow, It's Not Listed In The Effects But Each Drink From a Jar Gives You 1 Hunger.
- So Standing In The Rain Constantly Spamming Drink/Refill Will Get You About 5-10 Hunger Back For Free Each Rain Storm.

Definitely Don't Sleep Through Day Changes. Even Sleeping Through One Daybreak Makes Your Playthrough An Entire Day Longer.
- However Sleeping 8-16 Hours A Day (Or More) Does Save You About 5 Hunger And Thirst. This Compounds Over The Course Of 20-40 Days To Save You A Few Jerky.

No Animals Can Die While You Play The FIrst 20 Days.
- Apparently The Game Saves When You Land On An Island, So If You Hear Something Kill Something Else (Like A Snake Killing A Boar) And Are Worried About It, Alt+F4. This "Should" Load You Back To When You Landed And You Can Just Leave To Go To Another Spot Before It Happens.
- Can't Confirm, I Didn't Have To Try This.


Let's Start The Playthrough
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Day 1
--First Lucky Camp--
- The Camp I Found Had 1 Old Lumber, 14 Cat Tails, And a Flint. I Made A Campfire At The Entrance, (Right As You Step Off The Dock) So When The Game Spawned Wolves I Didn't Have To Worry About Them.
- I Used The Rest Of The Cat Tails For Tinder To Relight The Fire After Each Rain. If The Campfire Sleeping Either Reset Or Got Rid Of The Wolves, I Ran To The House That Was There And Slept There To Pass Time And Save Tinder.
- If Sleeping At The House Spawned Wolves Again, I Ran To The Entrance Fire I Built, And Waited For Another Rain, Then Relit The Fire.

A Fishing Shack (Bait Shop) Is Your Best Friend Here, In Lieu Of A Great Cattail Start.
- Wolves Rarely Spawn At Them, Allowing You To Pass A Lot Of Time In Between Rains.

Spamming Jar "Use" And "Consume"
Rain Water Chugging - Really, Really Helped. I Was On Day 20 And I Had Only Used 27/50 Jerky.

Day 20
The Vegetarian Achievement Is Yours! If You Haven't Unlocked The "Invincible" Achievement Yet, It Unlocked At The Same Time. Even Though My Gauges Weren't All At 100%.


I Still Had 23 Jerky Left, So I Went For Paleo Diet. Still Haven't Left The First Camp I Stopped At.
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Day 23
Once I Started Traveling, I Started Looking For 2 Things; Cat Tails And Saplings.
- Once I Had Enough For Snares And Spike Traps, I Killed Some Stuff And Cooked The Meats.

Day 32, Traveled 7.1 Miles Total
Heading Downriver A Bit, Hunted 4 Rabbits, Spear Trapped Two Boars And A Wolf.
- Also Found A Bear Attacking 3 Wolves And Stole The Spoils Once The Bear Went Back To It's Cave.
- 15 Jerky Left, Still Chuggin Rainwater, Still Sleeping Through 2/3 Of Every Day At Fishing Shacks And Buses.

Day 40
Paleo Diet Achieved. And Can Confirm "Under The Stars" Is Linked To Paleo Diet, Got Both On Day 40, And I Definitely Slept In Shelters Multiple Times.


Good Luck!
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27 Oct 2023 00:00

This is much more difficult than its sister achievement, “Vegetarian.” Without the tools or traps to catch food at the beginning of the game, you will have a hard time at the start. As always, you can make this easier for yourself by starting the playthrough with Aesop equipped with a full suit of Bear Hide clothing or better. I also recommend giving him a full set of 10 Jerky. Once you are able to make traps and arrows, focus on using box traps to catch rabbits, arrows to kill boars, and spear traps just in case you are low on food and need to kill a wolf or bear. You can also lure boars and wolves into bears to start a fight, then pick meat off of the corpses of the losers. While unconfirmed if it will void the achievement, I would avoid drinking teas made from dandelions or sumac, just in case. This means that if you happen to get bit by a snake you should quit to the main menu and hit “Continue” to resume to just when your raft landed.

Build a stove on your raft as soon as you can to cook your meat without having to resort to building campfires. Use whatever salt you find to make jerky. While less nutritious than cooked meat, it lasts forever. Collect clean water in your jars whenever it rains. When your stockpile of cooked meat reaches, say, 5 or so, you can just rest for several days at a building or your raft if you have a shelter built. After all, you're trying to last a certain number of days. Might as well quickly spend some doing nothing than going farther down the river where items become more scarce. This will also keep your cooked meat from spoiling, too.

Remember, in endless mode Permadeath is on, so don’t take any risks. If you are close to dying, or if your raft is close to sinking, quit to the main menu and hit “Continue” to resume to when the game last saved.

Note: This achievement unlocked late for me, around the 47th day. Also, this cannot be unlocked during the same playthrough as the “Vegetarian” achievement.

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You need to live 40 days without eating a single plant in endless mode. For some reason this trophy fell on day 44. Most likely, the time spent on rest is not taken into account.
It is unknown how drinking tea affects this trophy. Therefore, try not to get negative effects from eating bad food and from being attacked by snakes.
I didn't eat cornbread either.

Snakes can be very helpful in hunting, but this will require torches. For example, if you find yourself in an area where there is a snake and holes with rabbits, then we lead the snake with a torch to the holes and wait until it kills the rabbit. Killed, we drive away with a torch, take the corpse, repeat the process. Well, or wait until she kills them all.
You can also kill a bear in this way, but this will require four snakes (this can often happen in deserted areas).
You can also push bears and wolves with a torch. The bear kills the wolves and returns to the den. And you collect meat.

This prize is best combined with the River God trophy.
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01 Feb 2017 03:28

Tea affects the trophy. Don't drink tea or use aloe.
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05 Feb 2021 12:06