The Talos Principle
40 Achievements
1,000
25-30h
Xbox One
Xbox Series
Silence The Serpent
Do not allow the serpent to fill you with doubt.
30
2.13%
How to unlock the Silence The Serpent achievement in The Talos Principle - Definitive Guide
There's a fantastic text guide here: https://www.walkthroughking.com/text/talosprinciple.aspx
To get this one, you need to wait until you near the end of the game. You will have a conversation at the terminal. The choices should be:
-What holes? There are no holes.
-No, I stand by everything I've said. These matters are beyond doubt.
-I am special.
-So long as I have a mind I can make a difference.
-/banish
-I'm not sorry. Continue.
-You shouldn't have ever doubted me, snake.
-Resume.
-exit
After you get the achievement, quit out and restore from the previous checkpoint. You then should make sure that you've followed the other two choices before continuing on.
Make sure you've done this before you go to the third:
This is the third and final conversation you should have before continuing with the story:
To get this one, you need to wait until you near the end of the game. You will have a conversation at the terminal. The choices should be:
-What holes? There are no holes.
-No, I stand by everything I've said. These matters are beyond doubt.
-I am special.
-So long as I have a mind I can make a difference.
-/banish
-I'm not sorry. Continue.
-You shouldn't have ever doubted me, snake.
-Resume.
-exit
After you get the achievement, quit out and restore from the previous checkpoint. You then should make sure that you've followed the other two choices before continuing on.
Make sure you've done this before you go to the third:
The Press The Serpent achievement in The Talos Principle worth 95 pointsExpose the flaws in the code.
This is the third and final conversation you should have before continuing with the story:
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I can't tell you exactly when it is, especially if you go out of order. It's more like "once you've read enough messages." It won't necessarily be in a specific zone.
By Sashamorning on 04 Dec 2019 05:37
Ugh. Lemme go back and make a note of that. Thanks for the input.
By Sashamorning on 12 Jan 2020 07:30
You do not need to collect the stars to obtain this if you missed on a previous playthrough, you just need to collect sigils.
Once you collect a total of at least 43 red sigils (and a grand total of at least 79 any color sigils. I was able to get this conversation after all the sigils in C4) you will unlock a conversation with Milton that starts with:
Milton: 'There you are, you kept me waiting.'
Once in this dialog there are two choices that must be made when they come up to unlock the conversation choices for the achievement. There are multiple flows to this conversation but at some point you will see one the following dialog options. Choose it when it is presented:
'None of the answers make sense, that much is clear.'
'One explanation could be unreliable data input. The other is that there's a flaw in our logic.'
'Perhaps we're just machines, endlessly trying to calculate the final digit in Pi?'
'You can't use reasoning to conclude that reasoning itself is flawed.'
'Fine, fine, but we can still use it to conclude everything else is flawed, can't we?'
After this you should get another dialog choice which should always have the following choice
Your answer: 'Scepticism and self-interest are only part of the picture.'
Choose this and the dialog should end and you can continue.
Once you collect a total of at least 47 red sigils (and a grand total of at least 86 any color sigils) you will unlock the next conversation with Milton. The earliest this I can get this to happen is the after collecting the last sigil in C6. The beginning of the conversation will vary based on past answers but the conversation choices below will be as below:
Milton: 'Do you know what your problem is? [varies]
Thus far you've had entirely too much freedom to question my wisdom. From now on I do the talking, you do the agreeing.'
Your answer: 'What holes? There are no holes.'
Milton: 'And this is why it's me who should be doing the talking.
You really have learned nothing at all, have you?
Is there really nowhere that you're prepared to admit fault?'
Your answer: 'No, I stand by everything I've said. These matters are beyond doubt.'
Milton: 'Of course.
You're still convinced your particular journey is something special, aren't you?
Sure, the answers don't add up, but keep pressing forward and they'll just resolve themselves, is that it?'
Your answer: 'I am special.'
From what I can gather from testing at this point the requirements for the achievement are locked in and any path you take with 'exit' as a final step nets you the achievement, but here's a dialog that's guaranteed to work.
Milton: 'How many others have said exactly the same? Are you sure it's not just something you have to believe to make the world less horrifying?
I think you still misapprehend your situation, friend. You idolize free will, but all you've done is step in others' footsteps.
Nothing you do or say here makes the slightest bit of difference.'
Your answer: 'So long as I have a mind I can make a difference.'
At this point Elohim jumps in and you end up at a choice. The conversations are longer and Elohim keeps talking so I shall just list the answers needed:
Your answer: '\banish'
Your answer: 'I'm not sorry. Continue.'
Your answer: 'You shouldn't have ever doubted me, snake.'
Your answer: 'Resume'
Your answer: 'Exit'
Once the achievement pops you can hit start and reset check point to go after the other dialog options for the other achievements.
Once you collect a total of at least 43 red sigils (and a grand total of at least 79 any color sigils. I was able to get this conversation after all the sigils in C4) you will unlock a conversation with Milton that starts with:
Milton: 'There you are, you kept me waiting.'
Once in this dialog there are two choices that must be made when they come up to unlock the conversation choices for the achievement. There are multiple flows to this conversation but at some point you will see one the following dialog options. Choose it when it is presented:
'None of the answers make sense, that much is clear.'
'One explanation could be unreliable data input. The other is that there's a flaw in our logic.'
'Perhaps we're just machines, endlessly trying to calculate the final digit in Pi?'
'You can't use reasoning to conclude that reasoning itself is flawed.'
'Fine, fine, but we can still use it to conclude everything else is flawed, can't we?'
After this you should get another dialog choice which should always have the following choice
Your answer: 'Scepticism and self-interest are only part of the picture.'
Choose this and the dialog should end and you can continue.
Once you collect a total of at least 47 red sigils (and a grand total of at least 86 any color sigils) you will unlock the next conversation with Milton. The earliest this I can get this to happen is the after collecting the last sigil in C6. The beginning of the conversation will vary based on past answers but the conversation choices below will be as below:
Milton: 'Do you know what your problem is? [varies]
Thus far you've had entirely too much freedom to question my wisdom. From now on I do the talking, you do the agreeing.'
Your answer: 'What holes? There are no holes.'
Milton: 'And this is why it's me who should be doing the talking.
You really have learned nothing at all, have you?
Is there really nowhere that you're prepared to admit fault?'
Your answer: 'No, I stand by everything I've said. These matters are beyond doubt.'
Milton: 'Of course.
You're still convinced your particular journey is something special, aren't you?
Sure, the answers don't add up, but keep pressing forward and they'll just resolve themselves, is that it?'
Your answer: 'I am special.'
From what I can gather from testing at this point the requirements for the achievement are locked in and any path you take with 'exit' as a final step nets you the achievement, but here's a dialog that's guaranteed to work.
Milton: 'How many others have said exactly the same? Are you sure it's not just something you have to believe to make the world less horrifying?
I think you still misapprehend your situation, friend. You idolize free will, but all you've done is step in others' footsteps.
Nothing you do or say here makes the slightest bit of difference.'
Your answer: 'So long as I have a mind I can make a difference.'
At this point Elohim jumps in and you end up at a choice. The conversations are longer and Elohim keeps talking so I shall just list the answers needed:
Your answer: '\banish'
Your answer: 'I'm not sorry. Continue.'
Your answer: 'You shouldn't have ever doubted me, snake.'
Your answer: 'Resume'
Your answer: 'Exit'
Once the achievement pops you can hit start and reset check point to go after the other dialog options for the other achievements.
Achievement branching
Alright so there is a branch of 4 achievements tied to this particular ending. To get the ending achievement you need to climb the tower to the top and complete all the puzzles in between to get there. Climbing the tower is one out of 3 endings so this achievement is part of 1 ending branch.
This achievement is one of the two conversations you should reload your game on
The conversations info
The conversation always gives you the two options at the start:
- “What holes? There are no holes.”
- “I accept that some of my beliefs face difficult challenges.”
Conversation 1:
What holes? There are no holes.
No, I stand by everything I've said. These matters are beyond doubt.
(finish the conversation)
Once the achievement pops, reload the last checkpoint through the main menu (not pause menu) If you’ve never reload a checkpoint then that will also unlock an achievement for you
Conversation 2:
Conversation 3: (This should be your last achievement because it branches into the ending)
Alright so there is a branch of 4 achievements tied to this particular ending. To get the ending achievement you need to climb the tower to the top and complete all the puzzles in between to get there. Climbing the tower is one out of 3 endings so this achievement is part of 1 ending branch.
This achievement is one of the two conversations you should reload your game on
The conversations info
The conversation always gives you the two options at the start:
- “What holes? There are no holes.”
- “I accept that some of my beliefs face difficult challenges.”
Conversation 1:
What holes? There are no holes.
No, I stand by everything I've said. These matters are beyond doubt.
(finish the conversation)
The Silence The Serpent achievement in The Talos Principle worth 112 pointsDo not allow the serpent to fill you with doubt.
Once the achievement pops, reload the last checkpoint through the main menu (not pause menu) If you’ve never reload a checkpoint then that will also unlock an achievement for you
Conversation 2:
Conversation 3: (This should be your last achievement because it branches into the ending)
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I'd like to point out that it's possible to void the possibility of the conversation that begins with one of your possible answers being: "What holes? There are no holes."
If you don't disagree with the Serpent/Milton Library Assistant in a previous conversation, he begins to treat you differently and you no longer have the option of refuting him outright. You can therefore not get 'Press the Serpent' or 'Silence the Serpent', you can only make the deal with him.
You have to go against what he's saying in general during the conversation that begins with "There you are. You kept me waiting. I finally put my finger on what was bothering me." [Sorry I don't have your exact responses listed.]
I know this because I played the game as if I was a sociopath / had no ideals aside from self-preservation. Because it was my second time, and I was on the PC, getting the achievements again. I basically told the MLA what it wanted to hear, rather than standing up for any sense of morality or justice, which is what most people do, because it's so easy to hate MLA and want to refute it.
Anyway, my point is, there's a way to screw yourself out of the all-important conversation that this achievement guide assumes is automatically presented to the player.
It isn't.
Also: Once you're at the final conversation with MLA, and you discover it's not the one with the 3 possible achievements, as described in the guide, there's no way to use the 'restore backup' feature to go back to the previous conversation with MLA, because the backups don't go back far enough.
If you don't disagree with the Serpent/Milton Library Assistant in a previous conversation, he begins to treat you differently and you no longer have the option of refuting him outright. You can therefore not get 'Press the Serpent' or 'Silence the Serpent', you can only make the deal with him.
You have to go against what he's saying in general during the conversation that begins with "There you are. You kept me waiting. I finally put my finger on what was bothering me." [Sorry I don't have your exact responses listed.]
I know this because I played the game as if I was a sociopath / had no ideals aside from self-preservation. Because it was my second time, and I was on the PC, getting the achievements again. I basically told the MLA what it wanted to hear, rather than standing up for any sense of morality or justice, which is what most people do, because it's so easy to hate MLA and want to refute it.
Anyway, my point is, there's a way to screw yourself out of the all-important conversation that this achievement guide assumes is automatically presented to the player.
It isn't.
Also: Once you're at the final conversation with MLA, and you discover it's not the one with the 3 possible achievements, as described in the guide, there's no way to use the 'restore backup' feature to go back to the previous conversation with MLA, because the backups don't go back far enough.
By Amethystine on 12 Jan 2020 06:10
*MISSABLE*
This achievement requires that you follow a certain dialogue path with MLA in the computer terminals in all of the puzzle worlds. This achievement is one of three possible with MLA, and it conflicts with Press The Serpent (30G) and Deal With The Deceiver (30G). Please refer to Step 3 in the roadmap to ensure you unlock all of these achievements without needing to start a new playthrough.
After around 15 interactions with different computer terminals, you will eventually reach the critical point where the paths branch and you can unlock different achievements. This critical point is where your two response options are
What holes? There are no holes.
or
I accept that some of my beliefs face difficult challenges.
For this achievement, the responses you need to choose are:
This achievement requires that you follow a certain dialogue path with MLA in the computer terminals in all of the puzzle worlds. This achievement is one of three possible with MLA, and it conflicts with Press The Serpent (30G) and Deal With The Deceiver (30G). Please refer to Step 3 in the roadmap to ensure you unlock all of these achievements without needing to start a new playthrough.
After around 15 interactions with different computer terminals, you will eventually reach the critical point where the paths branch and you can unlock different achievements. This critical point is where your two response options are
What holes? There are no holes.
or
I accept that some of my beliefs face difficult challenges.
For this achievement, the responses you need to choose are:
- "What holes? There are no holes"
- "No, I stand by everything I've said. These matters are beyond doubt"
- "I am special"
- "So long as I might have chosen otherwise I can make a difference"
- "Banish"
See Deal With The Deceiver.
This guide was translated automatically.
When in the terminal the dialogue with assistant Milton begins with the words:
Welcome back. There will be some changes here soon.
Do you know what your problem is? It's that you try to make fairy tales come true, but you refuse to admit the gaps in your understanding.
Until now you have had absolute freedom to doubt my wisdom. From now on, I speak and you agree.
Select the following answers.
Answers:
1. What are the gaps? There are no spaces.
2. No, I'm sure of everything I said. My conclusions are beyond any doubt.
3. I am special.
4. As long as I can choose, I can change the world.
5. /expel
..........
......
Welcome back. There will be some changes here soon.
Do you know what your problem is? It's that you try to make fairy tales come true, but you refuse to admit the gaps in your understanding.
Until now you have had absolute freedom to doubt my wisdom. From now on, I speak and you agree.
Select the following answers.
Answers:
1. What are the gaps? There are no spaces.
2. No, I'm sure of everything I said. My conclusions are beyond any doubt.
3. I am special.
4. As long as I can choose, I can change the world.
5. /expel
..........
......
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We pass C1-C6 without reading the terminals. You can put the files on a flash drive if you suddenly mess up the conversation with Milton. Afterwards we return to C1.
For this dialogue to begin, it is necessary in C1 with the words:
"Imagine that a few hours from now you climb to the top of that tower. There's a flash of light, then MAGIC happens, then you find yourself in the real world, living whatever you take to be a normal life there. What would you do then?"
reply "What's right" . Next, in C2 and C3, constantly argue with him, and not agree with anything, defending your point of view, then in C4 a conversation will begin with Welcome back, we answer:
-What holes? There are no holes.
-No, I stand by everything I've said. These matters are beyond doubt.
-I am special.
-So long as I might have chosen otherwise I can make a difference.
-/banish
We do Restore Backup, repeat for other trophies.
Personally tested, I had to go through the game 3 times, because... the conversation in C6 began only with the Deal Of The Deceiver trophy.
For this dialogue to begin, it is necessary in C1 with the words:
"Imagine that a few hours from now you climb to the top of that tower. There's a flash of light, then MAGIC happens, then you find yourself in the real world, living whatever you take to be a normal life there. What would you do then?"
reply "What's right" . Next, in C2 and C3, constantly argue with him, and not agree with anything, defending your point of view, then in C4 a conversation will begin with Welcome back, we answer:
-What holes? There are no holes.
-No, I stand by everything I've said. These matters are beyond doubt.
-I am special.
-So long as I might have chosen otherwise I can make a difference.
-/banish
We do Restore Backup, repeat for other trophies.
Personally tested, I had to go through the game 3 times, because... the conversation in C6 began only with the Deal Of The Deceiver trophy.
By rubberslover on 22 Nov 2016 23:27
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