The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings

Ooooh, that must mean they changed it in a patch. Can anybody confirm whether this works without the latest patch but stops working with it? I can update the guide.

I'll see if deleting the cache works and get back to you, and I changed my vote.

No, this doesn't work even with the cache cleared. What path are you on? I'm on Roche's. And until this is figured out, you should edit the guide saying that this might not work. I looked at this solution in the middle of my playthrough, and because of that, I didn't do anything to help myself get the achievement, which was clearly a mistake. Now, because of this guide, I'm probably going to have to do a second playthrough to get this.

It worked for me on both paths. Initially Roche's, where they would just sit there, be killed (sometimes not even defending themselves), and keep respawning. On Iorveth's path they would attack without provocation.

And you're at the Order of the Flaming Rose? The guys in red? It's been a few weeks since I've played, but it definitely worked for me and others so I'm not sure what the difference is. I'll add a note to the top of the guide saying that at least one person found that this method doesn't work due to not being able to attack any of them. Since there's a difference in their behavior between Roche's path and Iorveth's path, there might be more to it than I'm aware, such as other differences due to Geralt's attributes, good/bad play, etc.

I can confirm that this works for me on Roche's path. I've cleared up pretty much every quest in Act 3 bar the main one (A Summit of Mages) and I was at 33 and a half, so I decided to go and kill the Order of the Flaming Rose for a nice little XP boost. It worked for me absolutely fine, I just attack whatever guards I want and they die easily. I am playing through Xbox Live so I have all patches installed [as of 19/7/2012], so I do not understand why ViPeR866 is having any particular troubles.

Just a few suggestions and tips for those people looking to use the Order of the Flaming Rose to get yourself as high as possible for the end-game section;

- If you do the quest 'An Encrypted Manuscript' (which is very easy if you've kept most of your alchemy ingredients throughout the game) you obtain the crafting diagram for a Steel Sword called Caerme. It is incredibly powerful (arguably the most powerful Steel Sword outside of Dark Mode in regular game-play) and when upgraded further with Fire/Ysgith runes (which should be easy to purchase at such a late stage in the game) the weapon becomes an absolute slaughterhouse. Not to mention it's very easy to craft (Harpy Feathers are easily obtainable outside of Loc Muinne and the guy who crafts the sword for you sells Iron Ore and Timber I believe). Pick it up if you can - although not necessary it is a massive help when fighting the Order.

- Use Aard regularly and try to land attacks at their back. Because they don't fight back unless you're directly attacking them, this usually means you can nail them in 1/2 hits with a fully upgraded Caerme. Take advantage of their usual non-hostile nature.

- On the other hand, I highly suggest you invest in the 'Combat Acumen' skill to obtain group finishers. Simply make the enemies hostile with a weak 'A' attack or by using a Aard sign, and gather a group of three of them together, then push the up arrow to finish them all off swiftly. It makes boosting them for XP that little bit quicker (and with fully upgraded Swordsmanship path you generate Adrenaline at such a ridiculous rate that it would be a waste not to take full advantage of group finishers).

- Finally, while this may just be a trick of the mind, I believe that some members of the order become slightly stronger the more you kill them, so try to spread out your 'massacre' evenly, possibly moving from one side of the camp to the other and then vice versa. In particular I noticed that the guys with spears/halberds gave me a particularly hard time after I'd killed them a few times, so take advantage of traps/Aard to make sure that they're easily defeatable.

Hope this helps you. I also recommend that you get yourself a little bit of the way *into* level 34 before approaching the Summit, just in case the XP you earn at end-game isn't enough to push you over 35. Remember to save before you tackle the end-game just in case the XP isn't enough, as you can always revert back and kill more of the order before heading to the Summit again.

I missed the achievement by 36xp. Thanks to you and a recent save, I got the achievement!

I'm not able to attack the men in the camp either. Very strange.

Do you have to be past a certain point in Act 3 to attack them. I've just started Act 3, and walking through their camp to get to Loc Muinne, I was unable to attack them. But hopefully I will be able to later.

I was able to attack them near the beginning (Iorveth's path) and near the end (Roche's path), but there was never a time when I tried that it didn't work. So something must be going on that I'm not aware of.

I read this at x360a.org and it turns out it's correct:

"Also noticed, you can only attack the Flaming Rose if you have fought with them earlier.

Spoilers below:

You have to return Anais to Temeria, and that's when the Flaming Rose will attack you. Once done you can return to the Flaming Rose camp and attack them.

They seemed to provide 5xp per kill. Its quick to kill them.

Also after starting the Summit of Mages to the end of the game you will get about 1000XP before battle with Letho. No XP for the final battle. "

When I loaded my save Triss save on Roche's path I could not hurt the Knights, but with my save where I saved Anais for the achievement (I had told Roche to give her to Natalis), I could hurt the Knights with no issue just as you said I could.

Ahhh yeah that could be the problem then. I saved Triss. I'll load some older saves up and try this and tell you guys how it goes.

Likewise, I was on Roche's path and saved Triss and couldn't attack the Flaming Rose.

worked like a charm. I had not saved Triss.

took me 19 minutes of slashing to level from 33 to 34 through this method.

okay so my question is im about to go to the summit but how do i leave the city i m on Iorveth's path right now

It's been a long time since I played, but I think you return to the "central" area (going by memory) to get back there.

It wont let me leave the area because there's enemies nearby so this method makes no sense to me. I keep killing them an they keep respawning but then once I hit 34 it wont let me leave...?

If you enter Ch.3 at level 30+, you should be set for the achievement. I was on Iorveths path at Level 30, i did no sidequests, simply went forward with the Spellbreaker quest, that alone pushed me 1/4th into Level 34, killed the dragon and hit 35.

I suggest using the wiki and complete all sidequests possible in Ch. 1 and 2, this will set you up nicely to hit 35 somewhere during Ch.3.

The fighting dummies - When i played through Roches path, in Loredo house there is one that will respawn if you leave the area and come back - i tried hitting this one over and over again. - Didnt work.
But those first 5 in the first camp area... i destroyed all 5, did arm wrestling and dice (load/reload/save a few times) when i came back the dummies could be hit again. After i destroyed them the second time, the Experienced Buff kicked in (10% exp gain).

I think I may figured out why some people can't attack them. When I did it right before the final mission, I was able to attack them. Then after I beat the game, I loaded an earlier save and wasn't able to attack them. I think it depends on whether you gave Anais to Radavind or convince Roche to keep her and causes the Order to become enemies with you.

Confirmed working on 8/15/2016 on Roche path with Anais turned over to the Temerians. Its even faster than stated above -- I got a whole level (33-34) in about 15 minutes.

I saved Anais and it does not work.
Don't understand why It does for certain people...

Doesn’t seem like you’re able to obtain those extra buff/perks on the Dark difficulty. While doing my first play through on normal I acquired the Experienced perk in the Prologue after destroying all the dummies and reloading/repeating a few times. I’ve just tried to repeat the process on Dark but it doesn’t seem to give it to you. I’ve saved and reloaded multiple times now, even did as Onsidic suggested and played arm wrestling and dice, yet have been rewarded with no Experienced perk.

I can confirm that GhostJohn325 is correct for those on Roche's path: the trigger that determines whether you can grind out XP against the Order occurs during the "Of His Blood and Bone" quest, which becomes available when you choose to help Roche instead of saving Triss when working on the "For Temeria" quest. Near the end of that quest after you free Anaïs, choose the following dialogue option: "Kings don't always keep their word". If you choose that one, the Order will become your enemies, so you can attack them. If you choose the other one (which hands over Anaïs to them), you can't attack them.

Can confirm confirm that you CAN only attack the guards if you A hep Roche (don’t help triss) AND chose the dialogue Only then can you attack the guards, otherwise you can’t attack them

I got the dummy perk in Dark no problems there. You have to destroy 10 of them. There's 5 in the prologue camp in 6 total in flotsam so you can skip one.

Going the Iorveth path I completed every single quest, I was lvl 13 upon arriving at Vergen, 30-31 when arriving at Loc Muinne. I hit 35 right after the completion of the quest Spellbreaker. I never grinded for XP at any point I just did quests. I had about 2000 extra XP over lvl 35 after the game ended.