Here are some tips for the achievement:
1) Your choice of partners is important. Better opponents will forfeit when your initial roll is a lot better than theirs. Easier opponents seem to stay in the game even if it's clear they're not going to win -- Zindrab in the inn in Chapter 1, for instance. At first, I was trying against a woman just outside the walls, and she'd often forfeit even if my initial roll was 3 of a kind or better, making it pretty much impossible to get the achievement unless you roll 5 of a kind as a complete re-roll on your second attempt. Zindrab stayed in when my first roll was 4 of a kind, letting me complete the set on my second roll and get the achievement. Any of them at the table in the Inn's basement will probably work, but if you're past chapter 1, try with the lowest-ranking dice players in each chapter.
2) I was using the corner-stacking trick when I got the achievement (ex: see the video from the first solution), but I don't know for sure that it helped. The initial placement is random, plus it takes longer to drag them down to the corner, so each attempt is going to take that much longer and they'll probably only stack the way they first entered the board anyway. And even stacking them, one or two will probably fall off the top of the stack when you release (if they're even positioned to stack at all). Although, the initial placement does seem to be less random than just rolling from the middle, so it's possible that stacking them might give you 3 or 4 on the first roll more often than a random roll, making it worth the added time to set it up each time. Your call though.
3) As other have said, you don't need to roll 5 of a kind at once. And even if you do (on your first roll), you don't get the achievement. The "trick" is that you have to win the match with 5 of a kind. The danger in getting 5 of a kind on your first roll is that your opponent is probably going to forfeit, denying you the achievement.
4) Don't mistake the 5 dice for the 6 dice. They're both stars, but one is a traditional pentagram (5 sides) and the other is more like a Star of David (6 sides).
5) If you have no matching dice, you might as well re-roll them all. Otherwise, keep the ones you have the "most" of after your first roll, and select the others (with X) to be re-rolled. If you have two pair, just stick with your favorite pair because it's probably not going to matter.
6) Some have said this is a good way to earn extra money for trying for the achievement, but it's a slow process to keep reloading each time you lose. I'd recommend just getting a fair amount of money to start (a couple hundred, maybe), then always betting/raising the minimum. If you Pass, you automatically lose, so don't do that. Save before starting for the achievement, play until you run out of money, and only reload if you're broke. Once you get the achievement, reload if you have a net loss.
47 Comments
What an awful achievement. :(
By Kawnstantin on 05 May 2012 21:36
No disagreement here. The only bright spot is that anybody can get it, eventually. It's just not much fun while trying.
By Wyndo on 05 May 2012 22:40
I have a degree in applied math and I actually basically already had the probabilities for this in a little file on my computer. I just had the probabilities calculated for having 3 turns to roll the dice. If you have 2, the probability of getting it in any one try (assuming you keep all dice that you have the most of) is %1.26. So yeah, something that you have to do over and over until you hit that %1.26 is pretty dumb. BioShock's jackpot achievement was about as bad but at least each try only took 5 seconds.
By PlayUltimate711 on 13 May 2012 07:01
To anybody voting negative - please let me know what's wrong with the guide that makes it not useful.
By Wyndo on 19 May 2012 22:08
What makes it unhelpful to them is that you're not telling them how to get it, they don't want helpful tips, they apparently think there's some secret that you refuse to tell us. »:(
I, on the other hand, thank you. I noticed opponents forfeiting often later in game, so
I'll give it another go next playthrough. Luck achievements are some off the worst, right up there with MP and kill count ones.
By Leo Ascendent on 05 Jul 2012 16:30
I have just done it twice in the matter of 20 minutes (on the EU Version) and have no achievement. Is anyone else having trouble getting it to unlock?
By SoiledDoughnut on 09 Aug 2012 13:55
i hate this sh... this is the only cheevo i need for the 1000... and always get 4 of the same dice, but never 5!!!!!
By Rey Punisher on 08 Sep 2012 19:08
Just a note that I was able to get this cheevo using the stacking method. I stacked and got 2 out of 5. Then stacked the remaining three and got them to all land in a stack on top of each other (or inside of each other) and they were all the same to make 5 of 5. I believe this stacking is exploiting how the game handles when dice are clipped into each other when the roll timer expires.
By Willie Fuego on 20 Feb 2013 07:18
you say that if you have no pairs or better after the first roll that you might as well roll them all again. this is true. probabilistically re-rolling all 5 and re-rolling any 4 give you the same chance of ending with 6 of a kind after the re-roll. however since they are equivalent i chose to simply re-roll any 4 of the 5 and save myself the extra fraction of a second selecting the 5th die as well. but it essentially doesn't matter.
By bryan dot exe on 28 Feb 2013 03:53
More math analysis! As TBabbRuns4Him already pointed out, the odds of rolling a five-of-a-kind with one allowed re-roll is 1.263%. Therefore the odds of rolling a five-of-a-kind on or before your 55th attempt is 50.3% and the odds of getting it on or before your 182nd attempt is 90.1%. Now I can not say for sure if this game represents a fair die roll, but if it did those would be your expectations.
By bryan dot exe on 28 Feb 2013 16:07
Can you explain how to do the stacking method please?
By I Ebon Hawk I on 22 Jun 2013 23:59
I loath this achievement. I have played this stupid dice game for 3 hours straight and haven't gotten it yet. Does the way you roll matter at all or is it sheer luck?
By FeralKnight on 27 Jul 2013 05:21
I would just like to say, I don't know if it was just dumb luck, but I looked up the stack method and on the 3rd try I got this achievement after grinding for three hours without it and not. Doesn't hurt to try it. To explain what I read, in the part where you roll the dice, move the die all the way into the bottom left corner until the dice mash up into a neat row. move up a bit so you aren't dropping dice off the board but keep it in the upper part and VERY lightly tap to roll. If they do more than drop, you were too rough. I rolled a natural 5. I passed my second turn and the achievement popped when I won. As mentioned before, it could have just been dumb luck bc a lot of people have reported this solution as a hoax, but after hours of grinding with no luck and it working that fast for me, I'm a believer.
By FeralKnight on 28 Jul 2013 02:01
First off I wish the stacking trick was explained here as I had to research it otherwise,which in itself was not easy. For anyone wanting to know the stacking trick requires you to move all your dice ALL the way into one of the four corners where the die will run out of room and will move together into one clump of dice as a result. Now that you have a mass of die move to the middle of the upper ledge area so they do not fall very far but get aware from the edge to limit the chance of them falling out of the board. This final part requires a lil skill and luck,You want to move the analog stick as little as possible to make your roll occur,this limits the amount of roll and distance they travel...they will also end up clipping on each other and making a 5 die stack. This is the stack trick,I tended toget a stack of 3 or 4 at the most but you get the idea.
As far as Im concerned the stacking trick is a complete wash...UNLESS used in certain situations. I think far more useful is the fact you are dragging the dice over a shorter fall due to the higher ledge so they have less time to rotate during the fall to the board. Also dropping is very important,as again it does not allow the die as much time to tumble or worse go outside the board.
My recommendation would be do your first roll ,or should I say drop,immediately upon being able to roll. Then when you get 2,3 or 4 of a kind is where the skill comes in. Namely being able to look at how the remaining dice are stacked and determining what is best to do next.
On the attempt I won it I had 3 of a kind and the two remaining I moved over to the edge of the board to reduce the fall distance,the sides I needed were facing me and NOT upwards. Had they upwards I would have wanted to stack them.Since they were facing me I Dropped them using the up on the analog every so slightly. Resulting in my five of a kind.
Finally if given the option between two single pairs I almost NEVER got a 4 match ...dont know if this is due to coding or maybe just my rolls. But they definitely seemed to be the rarest die to get,So I would not pick those.
By NINja277 on 21 Aug 2013 20:29
There is no sure way for this achievement it is pure luck. I just got it myself. What I did was move to the side of the board and just drop the dice. I didn't stack them first I just dropped them. I ended up with 4 of a kind, luckily the guy didn't fold and I rolled the last one and got the last one I needed. Pure luck
So finally playing this game again (since it went on sale) and I have to say... The hardest part I am having is I can't see all the f-ing dice. Geralts name at the bottom covers one of my dice. Good guide though
By LolliZombi on 17 Dec 2013 23:37
Yeah, fuck this achievement, lol.
The stacking trick isn't that great, although I did seem to get more 3 of kind off the bat, then just a regular roll, but it seemed to take more time than it was worth. In the end I just got it from regularly rolling the dice, first got 3, then matched the other 2. I usually threw them left or up at medium force.
By Crimson Drifter on 24 Apr 2014 18:06
This was a helpful guide for me. I used Zindrab at the Flotsam's Inn. I found he does resign on "3 or 4 of a kind" if you have a better Roll then him. But if he also have at least a 3 of a kind he won't resign. My strategy was to do a normal roll on my first roll and not corner rolling. And depending on the top facing for my second roll I would do a normal roll if the was not close to number i needed but, if it had the number i needed then I did corner rolling. In all I manage to rack up 600 gold when i started with 80 trying to go for this achievement.
By GR1N REAP3R on 06 Feb 2015 20:23
This achievement took me about 30 minutes. I got reallly lucky during that particular game and rolled a 4 of a kind, followed by the one additional symbol that I needed for the achievement. I was playing against Zindrab, at the Flotsam.
Tried doing 'slow' rolls and flicking the dice into corners, but I never did get anything higher than a 3 of a kind. It was something at least.
By Onyx Grimoire on 07 Feb 2015 22:42
Tried for about a hour doing the regular method to no avail. Tried the "Zindrab Stacking Technique" and popped after 10 mins. Not saying this is the best method, just simply the way I got it.
By ToningBowl32875 on 18 Feb 2015 23:47
Been trying to get this for about 4 hours of playtime over the last few days. This gets really aggravating after a while but I plan to keep trying until I get this no matter how long it takes.
By skoop 713 on 26 May 2015 20:22
I literally got this on my third game of dice. I played someone in the Inn and on my first roll had (4) ones. Then I upped the bet to 7 orens and the opponent raised and I rerolled the odd die and it came up as a one.
By Or1g1nal S1nn3r on 26 May 2015 22:29
Finally got it. Took roughly 5.5 hrs but I consider myself lucky it didn't take longer than that. For the first hour or two I tried all the tricks and tactics recommended on this site and others but it just wasn't working. So for the rest I just did normal rolls. My winning game started with two matching ones and got the other three on the next roll. Extremely lucky !!! Also, after 5+ hrs of doing this crap I have that song from the first towns poker stuck in my head -_-
By skoop 713 on 27 May 2015 17:22
Got it after one hour yes!!!
By ParadoxReal8 on 13 Dec 2015 00:52
You may want to update your post :
2) I was using the corner-stacking trick when I got the achievement (ex: see the video from the first solution)
There is no video in any of the solutions up, and yours is the first solution...
By Onsidic on 17 Dec 2015 18:50
I just got it and must say stacking the lower left corner and then dropping them on the lower left corner pad worked for me. Slight nudges but its all luck, and all based on previous placement.
By ShadowRaven9 on 17 Apr 2016 19:52
i would rather redo Mile High Club without flash bangs than go for this awful achievement. Fuck the developers
By MaurickShepherd on 30 May 2016 18:02
I'm counting. I've just rolled my 600th time.
Kill me.
By MaurickShepherd on 30 May 2016 20:49
Whoo took me about five mins using the edge of the table trick
By Bk LuCKY ChaRMS on 29 Jun 2016 17:37
I finally managed to win this last night. I gave up on this achievement during my first playthrough of the game. I started a new game on Dark (not that the difficulty setting had anything to do with it) and replayed the soldier in the camp at the very beginning of the game. I can't count how many times I ended with four of a kind. I think it was my 74th roll and I got five of a kind on the first roll. Then I obviously didn't select any dice to re-roll. Once I won the achievement popped. I think that is also a requirement, you still have to win the match to get the achievement. Anyways, I'm glad this horrible achievement has not been obtained. Persistence is key.
By ToastiestCape0 on 29 Jun 2016 18:47
Stacking method didn't really do anything that I could tell. Just came down to dumb luck for me, though thankfully it only required about two hours.
By Silent Fanatic on 08 Aug 2016 01:19
I got it using the stacking method, and took me about 45 minutes. Rolled 2 of a kind, then stacked the last 3 on the second roll. Luck based achievements are the worst...but I'm thankful it took me less than an hour.
By Killerfrog527 on 04 Jan 2017 08:17
Did about 3 hours with no luck. What a waste of time.
By Ryn0 L on 28 Jan 2017 17:58
...and i got it. Started again today, while watching a show on Hulu, and got it within 20 minutes. I ended up just getting 2 matched, then the other 3. After trying all sorts of stuff others have lists (like stacking) I ended up getting it with no special rolling, tricks, etc.
By Ryn0 L on 28 Jan 2017 18:30
After countless hours I finally got it (long enough to go from 0 Orens to 1800). When I finally did get it I got unbelievably lucky; I rolled five-of-a-kind on my initial roll, then selected a re-roll and to my utter astonishment he didn’t forfeit... he rolled again! Achievement popped at the end of the match. Definitely sick of hearing that soldier’s “Heh, heh” after every loss though. Thank god it’s over. Can’t believe the devs would add a bullshit achievement like that, good luck to anyone attempting it.
By Ethigy on 14 Nov 2017 03:31
Rock up to the dice table in Foltest's Camp:
"Fancy rolling a few rounds with me?"
*Rolls three 5s*
*Matches the last 2 dice, I've done it!*
*Other guy rolls and ends up with all 6s...*
*You lose*
"Heh heeeh..."
By Ludio Nomen on 15 Jul 2020 10:30
If anyone reads this and has trouble with this achievement, make sure you have a win of (player)1 / 0 (soldier in foltests camp) (start of the game) , make a save and then bet 5 orens only and keep going, if you roll a three of a kind you have a better chance at doing this achievement
By HippyDeathBox on 10 Nov 2020 07:48
Yeah, it definitely wasn't fun. I like achievements that get me to do stuff (even repeat stuff) that's generally fun. This was just a slog, and I would have avoided dice poker altogether otherwise.
By Wyndo on 08 Sep 2012 23:43
I ended up just rolling the dice and hoping for the best. I started out by playing against Zindrab at the Inn in Flotsam, but I got frustrated and went back to the guy in the camp that you can play dice with. I felt like I was getting better rolls here, including three or so four-of-a-kinds, and eventually the five-of-a-kind.
In the end, it boils down to luck, so I guess I should consider myself extremely lucky that I spent about one and a half hours on this one :D
By An Aegean Cat on 23 May 2014 16:10
I got five-of-a-kind on my very first round of dice poker, in Folten's camp at the start of the game. Just a matter of luck, good luck to everyone.
By Prophet0fValor on 26 Jan 2015 21:34
Which guy are you using? I was playing the soldier behind the tents in the Prologue.
By Ethigy on 16 Nov 2017 21:17
After hours and hours of this I rolled five of a kind in my first roll...and he forfeited. Still trying to hunt this one down. Changing between stacking and normal rolls although stacking hasn't seemed to improve my odds at all - I'm using the guy in the prologue.
Just rolled another five of a kind in my first roll and the opponent forfeited despite having a 4 of a kind. This may be the worst achievement I've ever gone for.
Finally got it! I rolled three of a kind and on my next roll the faces of the two remaining die were the number I needed so I used the corner stacking method and dropped them face up. I got incredibly lucky with their starting position...
By Avidous on 24 Nov 2017 07:53
The stacking trick totally worked for me. I got three 3s first roll, then did the stacking trick for the last two and got it first try.
By risseless on 20 Apr 2018 02:55
Rolled 5 of a kind and no pop
By TheBetaMaleCuck on 18 Aug 2018 05:20
So after a good while I finally rolled 5 of a kind. The achievement popped and I actually LOST the match. Apparently 5 double circles doesn't beat 5 six pointed stars. Ain't going to complain though, did get the achievement. :-)
By Deelman on 24 Jan 2020 18:43
After 4+ hrs, I finally unlocked this horrendous cheevo. I was having no luck playing normally (Saw only a handful 4 of a kinds.) Was getting frustrated so I swapped to the stacking method and instantly noticed an improvement. Had multiple 3 and 4 of a kind on the first roll. Stacking method is certainly the way to go for anyone having any trouble. Best of luck
By Cheezatino on 25 Feb 2020 06:21
Have rolled five of a kind 3 times in about 30 minutes and hasn't unlocked, if anyone has an answer it'd be greatly appreciated
By HippyDeathBox on 05 Nov 2020 10:42