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Relics of a Forgotten Past

Relics of a Forgotten Past

Complete a 7-piece Elite armor suit.

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How to unlock the Relics of a Forgotten Past achievement in Too Human - Definitive Guide

Acquiring your Epic Set

First off, a lot of people call the Epic set Elite. There is no right term, for the achievement "Relics of a Forgotten Past" contains the word "Elite" while the strategy guide by Prima calls them "Epic." Just know when seeing topics containing the words "Epic Set" or "Elite Set", that many people mean them to be interchangeable and are indeed talking about the 7 piece set that is only for your class and alignment. That said, here goes.

Acquring your Elite Weapon

Some people have gotten their Elite weapons off of bosses. I got mine (a blue print) out of an obelisk in Aesir. They can also be found off of bosses as I have found the Human Commando Elite weapon and the Human Champion Elite weapon off of Grendel.

The easiest way to get your Elite weapon is at the weapon shop in Aesir. Load up a game, go to Tyr's Workshop and search through the weapons. If it is not there, select "Quit Game" from the menu that appears when you press "Start". Load a game like before, and repeat until your Elite weapon appears. Note, however, that you will have to pay over a million Bounty for it, so be prepared for that. Some people have seen their weapon in there and not had enough bounty and went to a mission thinking they could go back only to find that the weapon selection is different after the mission is over.

Acquiring your Elite Armor Set

If you aren't prepared to sink some hours into getting these pieces, don't bother trying as this can be a quest that tests your patience and sanity. There is no such easy way of acquiring your armor via the Armor Shop as there is of getting Epic weapons from the Weapon Shop. You have to either receive them from drops which are blueprints you must craft, or trade for them.

First we will discuss the old-fashioned way: Grinding for them. I am patient to a fault and I wanted to rip my hair out at various points trying to get my epic set this way, but it was rewarding after I did it.

Firstly, a Note About Tokens
Think of tokens as checkpoints in a way. When you complete a certain section in a level, you earn a token. For instance, The Hall of Heroes is broken into 3 sections, 1-1, 1-2, and 1-3. By completing 1-1, you will receive a token. By then playing on in the level, you will get another for completing 1-2, and so on and so forth. The importance of tokens cannot be stated enough. The more tokens you have, the more likely the Boss (and, in some cases, Elite enemies) is to drop an Epic Blueprint. Long story short: If you think that you can do 1-3 over and over to skip most of HoH to do Grendel runs, you will not likely ever get an epic piece.

I acquired my first piece off of Hel, the final boss in Helheim. I then started to do Helheim runs and got one more piece after about 5 more runs. However, Helheim can take quite awhile to beat, so at the advisement of others here on GameFAQs (thanks guys), I then switched to doing Grendel runs on Hall of Heroes. After a good 25 or so run-throughs of slaying and re-slaying Grendel, I had all of my set. I can also quote the dialogue of the Berserkers, Baldur and the Wolves like a preacher quotes Scripture, so be prepared for a lot of runs if trying this method.

1. The Grendel (Hall of Heroes AKA HoH) method of acquiring your epic set:

The easiest thing to do here is select "Continue Campaign" from the main menu and while in Aesir, go to one of the many terminals and select "Replay a Past Level" from the terminal. Then, select Hall of Heroes and start from the beginning (1-1). Remember, you want as many tokens as possible so the Boss and Elites will have a higher chance of dropping an Epic Blueprint. Play through and skip anything unnecessary such as secret arenas and wells, to save time. Unless you want to actually do all of that for bounty or other drops, but not doing the extra stuff will save you a ton of time. Run staright through to Grendel and pulverize him. He's pretty easy and quick to get to (provided you skip unnecessary wells and arenas). I got the remaining 4/7 pieces needed for my set off of him over 25 runs in 2 days. i have also seen people while playing co-op with me receive a piece of their Elite set off of the Elite Goblins ( the ones that rush at you a lot faster than the others and ususally have a red shield around them) and off of Grendel. I played by myself just because the drops are hard to get to drop in the first place, and I didn't feel like competing with others for them.Others also swear by making a co-op game and setting the 2nd slot to "Private" and playing through alone. The logic here is that there will be more enemies, hence, a higher chance of an Epic Blueprint drop.

2. The World Serpent (3-4) Conveyor Belt Runs
This method involves going to a terminal, and selecting World Serpent 3-4 from the level select list. What this allows you to do is to access the conveyor belt area quickly and the great thing about the belts is that they are chock full of Elite Goblins. I have never done this myself, as I already had my epic set before I found out about it, but it seems to work for a great number of people. On the conveyor belts, many Elite Gobs will rush you, and they all have a much higher chance of dropping an Elite than regular Gobs. Fight them all, and Quit then reload it again until you have some sweet Epic badassery. The downside of this is that you don't have all the tokens, and that probabaly hinders your drop chance for an Epic, but this method makes up for that because you can do this fairly quickly over and over again.
Trading for Elite Equipment

These are guidelines and there always exceptions for trades depending on what people want/need, but for the most part, poeple adhere to these behaviors and methods.

Firstly, offering Bounty is usually a complete waste of time. I have never duped, or been given anything, and have over 18 million Bounty. Bounty is worthless, since it is so easy to acquire. "Duping", the process of duplicating items that was not intended by the makers of the game, has also rendered Bounty even more worthless since there is so much floating around.

Secondly, usually offering Epic Weapons is a waste of time too, unless the person doesn't wish to load a game, check Tyr's shop, and quit, and re-load etc. There are far more Epic weapons floating around than Armor. Most everyone is not willing to part with their Epic Armor for runes, or charms either.

Usually, if someone is willing to part with a piece of Epic Armor, they want a piece of Epic Armor from another class, or they want Aesir Armor in return. Aesir armor is armor that usually has 3-4 open Rune Slots, thus highly customizable and depending on which runes are inserted, sometimes better than Epic Armor.

I'm not saying you shouldn't pursue trying to trade weapons or runes or bounty, but be prepared to read what the Trader wants, and act accordingly. It gets old telling people that you don't want bounty or weapons when you stated that in the first paragraph of the post. That being said, many traders will list what they have and pretty much say " Make me an offer." In that case, I'd go for offering bounty, weapons, Runes or Charms.

I didn't make this because I feel "Elitist" or anything. I made it because I genuinely want to help people with their acquisition of Epic items and just cannot do so because there are so many topics, it would take me all night to try.

Remember, Epic Armor requires a large amount of patience, and it will pay off. Keep at it, and good luck!

-runJebus also added If you're a berserker, and therefore running the conveyor belt instead of farming the spider, don't play from the campaign. Use multiplayer, set up a game and close off the 2nd slot. This increases the amount of named goblins (the guys that can drop reds) on the conveyor belt.

I have not tested his method myself but if you're having problems acquiring your set you might want to try this route and see what you come up with.
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Very informative,

Thank you!
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By Impaled Germ on 09 May 2009 14:31
Glad to help, and best of luck!
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By ItsNismoAce on 12 Aug 2009 09:51
All this for 5 freaking points.... thats crazy. ill still do it lol
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By Baxterstopman on 09 Sep 2009 14:55
lol yeah I felt the same but it's definitely satisfying when you finally get that last piece
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By ItsNismoAce on 09 Sep 2009 17:23
Noob here, but how do you know if it's epic/elite? Are the blues the epics/elites? Or is there a certain set? Thanks.
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By Leo Ascendent on 14 Sep 2009 22:14
It's Red, Um...you can probably google the exact set names but usually if they're red and the maximum level requirement then you got em. Just make sure you're at max level and if reds pop up then most likely you got some epic gear
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By ItsNismoAce on 15 Sep 2009 08:32
Does anyone know for sure if dying during a level completely nullifies your chance of getting an elite drop? Seems like the more you die, the less really good loot you get (which is annoying, considering the really cheap ways this game kills you oftentimes).

Ranking of item colors goes: Gray, Green, Blue, Purple, Orange, Red.

If you get a red item, tap the left bumper when you're in your equipment menu to see if there are more pages for that item. In addition to the 7-piece sets, there are 2 and 4-piece sets that I've seen.

Here the names of 3 7-piece sets that I know of for sure:

Champion (Human): Legacy of Fallen Kings
Commando (Cybernetic): Bloodied Exoskeleton of the War-Wolf
Defender (Cybernetic): The Sacred Ward of Odin

*Tip for salvaging that will really help you pay for the cost of crafting elite drops that I learned from my brother: leave your auto-salvage set to Blue. Fill all slots of a couple weapons or pieces of armor with salvage bonus runes (caps at 50%) and then equip those whenever you salvage stuff (I usually wait until I get the "Inventory Full" notification) to get quite a bit more bounty every time you clear out your inventory. I think my human champion almost has enough bounty now to craft the remaining 6 elite pieces I need twice over.
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By Tm5k on 16 Sep 2009 06:22
I'm pretty sure dying has nothing to do with it, as long as you play start to finish on whatever chapter you're running through, most likely hall of heroes. 1-1 through 1-3
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By ItsNismoAce on 16 Sep 2009 06:27
I actually set my salvage to orange, simply because all I wanted was red
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By ItsNismoAce on 16 Sep 2009 06:28
Setting it to orange certainly saves time, but if you're low on bounty, the method I described above is a great way to earn an extra 50% more bounty for every purple and orange item you salvage. Bounty adds up fast, which is good when you need to craft one of those red items or if you happen to die and need to repair some of the better orange or red items (very spendy).
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By Tm5k on 16 Sep 2009 16:13
Yeah, definitely a hefty amount just to craft them
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By ItsNismoAce on 17 Sep 2009 02:59
Ahh, okay. Probably won't see them for a while being at lvl 25, thanks.
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By Leo Ascendent on 20 Sep 2009 04:45
Yeah you have to be at the max level or you'll never see them
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By ItsNismoAce on 21 Sep 2009 00:35
Nice guide, but after way to many GRNDL runs an no Epic Armor piece I decided to do the spider-farming trick. Got my complete Epic Armor set in 25 hours this way. But then again, it's all based on lucky. I got my last two pieces in less then 1 hour. Lucky me i guess ;p
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By The Fury I84I on 05 May 2010 09:24
Nice, I had heard about that one but some people don't have luck with it at all, guess it's just the luck of the draw
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By ItsNismoAce on 05 May 2010 15:39
Lol, found an epic weapon with my lvl 28. So you can find them wothout being max lvl.
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By Leo Ascendent on 03 Jul 2010 06:42
They're red and they won't count as an epic set unless they are max level items
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By ItsNismoAce on 04 Jul 2010 00:55
One, doing the secret arenas isn't necessarily a bad idea, I got my first epic piece off one of these... and second, I was at about 31 when I found it, so you definitely don't need to be maxed out to 50; it isn't the one I needed, but its still an epic armor.
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By BWchief117 on 26 Aug 2010 06:05
I really appreciate the help you wrote here, but in my game tokens have nothing to do with it. I have been getting more pieces of elite armor with no tokens then what i was with all tokens. In a span of 5 hour, I received 4 armor pieces and 4 runes all of elite status, with no tokens in my stat page. Compared to 110 hours of playing with only getting 2 elite pieces with all but 1 token showing.
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By Peabo on 21 Mar 2011 19:08
What's weird is I had the opposite reaction. With others quoting the same. Maybe they changed it or patched it somehow considering how time consuming it was to completely finish out a level only to get nothing in the end. What is your technique? I might just add it up there to give people a different route if you wouldn't mind letting me use it.
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By ItsNismoAce on 22 Mar 2011 03:39
If you're a berserker, and therefore running the conveyor belt instead of farming the spider, don't play from the campaign. Use multiplayer, set up a game and close off the 2nd slot. This increases the amount of named goblins (the guys that can drop reds) on the conveyor belt.
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By runJebus on 21 Sep 2011 17:52
I added it to the solution. Thanks for the input
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By ItsNismoAce on 05 Oct 2011 00:10
if anybody stil has there pieces and wouldnt mind hopping on multiplayer to quickly let me borrow them that would be splendid
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By Evaroooooo on 21 Dec 2011 21:40
dont forget to buy loot chance + runes and insert them
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By TragiK x SlayeR on 11 Apr 2012 20:38
if anyone has the pieces would u mind helping me ive put countless hours into this game and still no red drops , help please
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By NiftyHazzard on 22 Nov 2012 00:43
Just won the achievement, for reference:

Got the rifle from Hel after a flawless Helheim run. Afterwards I did nine - ten hours of spider farming (with Grendel glitch) in four sessions and got a full six piece human commando elite armor, the hammer and the sword. Plus 32 million in cash and 17 elite runes.

Lvl 50 obviously, 15% loot drop chance runes in hammer. Shrike rifle (313 base damage!) nuked too 700+. Right three path, no Gungir, points in left upper instead for more ballistic damage.
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By MastaGus on 01 Jan 2013 20:04
I'll pay some 1.9 Billion for a full set of elite armor
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By Chaotic Masey on 05 Jul 2013 16:56
Sure I remember the devs say the tokens were very important, maybe just for the level your playing? yesterday accidentaly starting Ice Forest instead of restarting level 3 (as in I'd started it just before & returned to Aesir), so having 2 without tokens I managed to get 2 red armour pieces, one in each level as I refilled the tokens.. though after 8 hours play it has refused to drop any reds or Aesir - maybe the value of you loot and/or bounty has an influence on the chances as I sold off nearly everything (orange & below) after getting the 2 reds - I just need 1 more red, the gloves.
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By Mazrael on 10 Jan 2014 02:11
This guide is literally copy and pasted from Gamefaqs.com. -1
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By z RagnaroK z on 25 Jun 2018 23:41
This guide pretty much says everything you need to know.
I have created a post containing my whole grinding drops, hours and what they were.
This might help you to see how to plan or do it if you have no idea what you're doing.
https://www.xboxachievements.com/forum/topic/74145-elite-arm...
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By Monkeyman1188 on 03 Apr 2021 06:02
All of these solutions and comments and no one has answered the one question I came here to answer: are these items on a "knockout method"? I.e., can you keep getting the same armor piece(s) over and over again, or are you guaranteed to get a new piece with each drop? Since these are curated sets with fixed runes, it would make sense that they're on a knockout system (since there's no point in getting the same item to drop more than once if the perks and stats are always the same), but then again a lot of things in this cursed game don't make a lot of sense.

UPDATE 09.25.2023: I can confirm the armor set is indeed on a knockout system; I never saw a piece drop twice before I got them all. Also, it's not enough to have them in your inventory, you need to actually equip all 7 items (1 weapon + 6 armor pieces) for the achievement to unlock. Which means that if you're wearing a different set while you grind for the red armor (as I was), be SUPER careful not to salvage your reds by mistake, as I'm not sure how the game would handle that (I certainly didn't wish to test to find out). It can be relatively easy to hit Y one too many times while clearing out your inventory (which is why this game was sorely in need of a 'lock item' feature, but I suppose that's too much to expect of a game from 2008).
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By Resosaur on 12 Sep 2023 22:04
25 runs of Grendel and you had your set?I've never got a single one from that level, and I've done it around 15 times. I picked up 2 pieces from spider farming, but for some reason I have about 10 epic runes. I don't even get excited when I see something red. It's almost always a rune.
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By InfinityOnH1gh on 19 Jan 2024 16:57
If anyone needs help with this trophy I have the full suit for the commando I can duplicate it all for you 😊 add - J4M35
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By J4M35 91 on 12 Feb 2024 18:29
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Here are the odds, calculated by Wynn over at toohuman.net for an
epic Armor drop:
Hall of Heroes – GRENDL Run: 6.47%
3-4 Single Player: 2.27%
3-4 Multi Player: 3.39%

Another way I've read with a decent outcome is to play the Ice Forest all the way through. When you defeat Hod be ready to dashboard out. If you don't hear the epic music then dashboard out and continue campaign and fight Hod again. Rinse and repeat. The reason you can't just load the end of the chapter is the section tokens play a big role in the epic armor drops according to the creator of Too Human. It needs to be done in campaign also.
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Somehow I feel this is a little high...

Ive yet to receive a single peice as of today....
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By Impaled Germ on 09 May 2009 14:32
I personally have 5/7 and probably have done somewhere around 25 in Grendel runs, It's possible it's just time consuming
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By ItsNismoAce on 11 May 2009 05:14
God you guys are lucky.... ive completed far more than 25 runs and currently stuck at 2/7..... I think this game may hate me....
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By Impaled Germ on 11 May 2009 14:51
Hrmm..... (sorry for double post..) but I think I might try the Hod method that sounds rather effective.
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By Impaled Germ on 11 May 2009 14:53
I only have a sword for my cybernetic defender and I got it in shop (I reloaded the game a few times until it appeared). It costed a lot though so I have to earn some cash if I want to use this method again.
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By Yuhans on 13 May 2009 22:22
Can someone please list the human-champions elite armour set?
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By Marcada1 on 03 Jul 2009 06:51
Human Champion's elite set is as follows:

Crown of Fallen Kings, Heart of Fallen Kings, Arms of Fallen Kings, Gauntlets of Fallen Kings, Leggings of Fallen Kings, Heel Irons of Fallen Kings and Mercygiver of Fallen Kings (this is a sweet 1-handed spear / staff that has really good reach).

Bonuses for equipping 2 or more of this set:

2 pieces: Mastery: Asgard's Fury +1, 4 pieces: Mastery: Feeder of Ravens +1, 6 pieces: Mastery: Ascent to Valhalla +1, 7 pieces (complete set): Mastery: Champion Skill Tree +1.
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By Tm5k on 08 Oct 2009 04:42
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I found the best way is to do spider Farming. Method I use requires the following.

*Netflix, NPR or some other form of entertainment, this gets boring
*GRNDL glitch. Complete 1-3 and beat GRNDL then immedialty return to Aesir before the game forces you. This causes you to pick up all drops regardless of distance.

With these two in hand, head to 3-4. Go up the ramp, thru the room with floor-destroying piston and the walkway, you will get to a room with 2 trolls, a spider and a well. Defeat the enemies and proceed to the door, stopping on the rectangle. Shoot the spider that appears, increasing your range if needed. The items that dropped should come to you. Then run back towards the well and turn back after you hit the incline. Rinse and repeat. It seems to me that you get 1 red item per half-hour on average. You will know when you get a red item because a chorus will break out. It is important that you not die before start this as it will decrease your chances. When you are done farming, proceed into the room and down the conveyor because there are like 6-9 leaders there.

I got this strategy from the toohuman.net forums
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Please give credit to the owner of the posted video and the original author of the strategy you described here.
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By Epsilon Theta on 09 Sep 2010 15:15

It appears that each class/align have their own unique LVL50 armor that is made up of 7 pieces:

  • Weapon
  • Helm
  • Shoulders
  • Chest Plate
  • Grieves
  • Leggings
  • Boots

The weapon is easy to get: load up a game and go to the weapon shop. Search for your weapon. If it is not there, exit the game and reload. Be warned: they don't come cheap. Weapons cost one-million+ bounty.

We have an official trading thread on the site, which can be found by clicking HERE. If you have a piece that's not for your class/align, you can trade for another piece.

DeZmonD88 has started a thread to see if there is a pattern to finding any armor/weapons. If you find any, please post in the thread by clicking HERE.

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