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same im actually incapable of beating pawnee level 6. i have retried it at least 20 times. The ABXY level are piss easy but the analog ones where the game decides to pull the analog stick out of the circle at the last second, i cant beat it for my life.

haha no worries.

Didn't need the videos but +1 for help, and my hardest was level 6 (the last part of it) and level 10 same kind of thing at part 8, its like trying to flip your brain the level 10 one is easier but very frustrating all up, good luck everyone :D

FINALLY just unlocked this!
My advice is definitely watch the videos towards the end - you can then memorise the combos and what is coming up to have some kind of advantage. Pause and watch the next before each one - this helped me no end.
Also, keep trying - luck plays a big part - on the ones were R is on the left and L is on the right, on level 10 i was lucky enough to have them appear in the right place and sit still there... one off sure, but happened on my second try. :)

I'm on attempt 60 at level 6 in Pawnee. I've never had the benefit of good luck, so I imagine I'll be here for the next seven years or so.

I finished level 6 in Pawnee on 2nd attempt and the rest was easy as fuck. Just try to be patient and in Pawnee 8/10 it helped to turn the controloller upside down. Good luck everyone!

I did this with my brother and it was piss easy if you have another person to help. So yeah, my advice would be ask a friend of family memebe to help.

Ubisoft has confirmed that they are making changes to the drinking games to make this achievement less difficult to obtain. More details soon.

any update if ubisoft are making this less difficult?

It's not that hard anyway... touch, but not ridiculous.
I will stand proud knowing that I got it the 'proper' way if they make it easier...

After the last patch: "the drinking games were re-tuned based on community feedback". I've not tried but seems pretty easy now.

after patch pretty easy. Even the pawnee guy was easy to go....

Sounds like we should start at pawee 1st then other 2 places will feel easier?

How long do you have to leave it to come back?

You just have to leave it for 30 secs. Just stand there until Y comes up. I just did this without watching videos quite straight forward update has made it better I assume but I didn't play before update so unsure. I would start in darwee as it is harder. You will fail higher levels once or twice but will get it after few goes. The other 2 very easy didn't have to retry any. Your looking at around 2 hours in total to complete all I would say

The update must have made this a breeze as I passed the entire thing without failing once (some were cut quite close though). Don't let this achievement put you off the game!

I breezed through this pretty easily just now....only tough parts were one of the later rounds in The Loop and round 6 in Pawnee. But even those weren't HARD, just a little annoying. I'm thankful for having not tried this during the games launch, as I can imagine just how rage-inducing this achievement was before the patch.

I hate this game

I remember having the hardest time with this on the 360, now i played it on the one and completed everything first try, guess muscle memory served me on this one lol

Just got this....WAY easier then I thought!!!

It just stuck at 66 procent. I beat the weak one last and achievement won't pop

"The banter is boring and repetitious, especially when you try to do the levels back-to-back" One would argue that a 3rd party observing two people drink and their banter to be boring too lol Is it the worst feature of the game or the most provocative thing to date?

Just unlocked this. Did all 30 one after the other and the only problem I had was Level 6 in Pawnee. I hate the analogue stick challenges. I didn't need to watch the videos. So glad that's done. The button pressing ones I'd happily do over and over

Stuck at 66% IG progress 6/6...

I was at 33% in the achievement tracker with in game progress showing 6/6, having done 1-4 Pawnee in a previous session. The other locations 1-10 and Pawnee 5-10 in a single gaming session. I fast traveled back to The Wards and half way through playing level 10 again the achievement popped.

It popped after 24h, while i was doing convoys

lot easier with patch

Glitched for me. The progression in game tracked properly, and went to 6 out of 6 in game. In progression menu, it shows I have gotten 6 out of 6 drinking, and earned the achievement. Achievement tracker shows I'm 66%, when I should have the achievement. I don't know what to do.

Wow this was so much easier than anticipated and I didn't watch any of the videos.

Glitched for me too. I beat level 11 in each bar. I don't feel like playing it all again. Sigh 😔

Yup this stupid f### of an achievement glitched for me too. Stuck on 66% even though I've beaten level 11 on all 3 cars multiple times. Screw this game.

Bugged for me as well at 66%. Had to start a new game and complete all 30 for it to unlock again. Huge pain in the ass

Not hard at all

Finally got it. Replaying Pawnee, then The Loops which unlocked it for me after completion.

Especially since replaying all three during my last playthrough didn't net me the achievement. Second run netted me the missing achievement.

Thx

Just got this one and wanted to say thanks for the vids, buddy. They truly were a great help since you know what's coming up next. A word of advice for people going for this: Be calm and patient no need to get wind up as for you're never getting when feeling frustrated. So be in relaxed state of mind and in a room without any distractions. Also persistance is key here some of them took like 15-20 attempts but you'll nail 'em in the end(trust me). Also take breaks often and only pick up your controller again when you feel chill. It's far from impossible as some people make it out to be. Happy hunting :)

Finally got it. Level 6 is definitely the hardest. I got hung up a little bit on 7, but passed 8, 9 and 10 without failing. As cliche advice as this may be, just be patient and get through 6. The rest is cake.

If you get past level 6 in Pawne and finish the other one with the sticks, you will be okay. Don't feel too bad about getting stuck at level 6 in Pawnee. Lots of others feel or have felt your frustration. So glad I beat it tonight. Turning the controller upside down in level 8 for the red reverse L and R works like a dream. Good luck

Not sure how Ubi thought this was even remotely fun. The banter is boring and repetitious, especially when you try to do the levels back-to-back. The games are annoying and have nothing to do with the main quest line. Sure, there's a "drinking game" scene, but that doesn't mean we want a whole mini-game around it. Even if we did, why is the achievement for beating all of the levels? Ugh. Glad that's done.

Here are the specific patch notes for the drinking game:

- Increase round fail time by 20%. More time for player to finish.
- Increase button cycling time by 50%. More time between button switch.
- Increase player reticle radius by 25% in collect button mode. Allow easier button press succeeded on bad latency tv.
- Increase player reticle last frame velocity impact on this frame position (inertia friction) by 70%. The player reticle slow down faster when no input from player -> easier to stay on the spot targeted & More precise player control.
- Increase player input factor by 50%. More precise and more reactive player control.
- Reduce max force applied randomly to player reticle from 0.35 to 0.29. Less strong random impulse for drunk effect.
- Reduce moving target speed by 15%. Easier for player to time his button press on a target.

I have to same I'm pretty disappointed, having spent hours to obtain this the hard way. Really wish they wouldn't adjust game difficulty later just to make achievements more achievable, but at least this will mean fewer curse words thrown at the TV across the globe.

That's disappointing they made it easier! These things just take patience. You just need to keep trying basically, of course some luck is involved but the amazing thing about the human brain is it will get better and your reaction times will improve the more you do it. It wasn't the most difficult thing in the world anyway!

I remember doing the achievement for beating 5 Finger Filet in "Rage" and they were all repeating patterns so you just had to learn them but the last round was random so you actually had to be able to react and press the button in time. At first I thought this is impossible I cannot react in time! After an hour of repeating it I could do it almost every time! Loved it and it was just a silly little game! :)

I felt real satisfaction in beating the drinking games when the game first came out and that''s what I enjoyed about it. If it's too easy it won't mean anything. My favourite was the analog sticks game as it really screwed with your head, but a little perseverance and you start to be able to do it! I surely hope games don't start dumbing down achievements because then there would really be no point! Achievements that ask you to spend a ridiculous amount of time (as in mp) to just repeat tasks for 100s of hours are stupid. They just take time and are not hard but the achievements that aren't dependant on time but based on difficulty are what give meaning to getting achievements as a whole! Well, for me anyway. Everyone is different I guess. If you look at an achievement and thousands of people have done it then, you can do it. Persevere! Seize the Day! Be proud to throw your controller, scream obscenities and then after missing out time and time again, scream in delight and pump your fist in the air as you realize you have done it! And you know you are the shit!

(Too much?)

Have fun guys!

Which person is the hardest? I just did the guy in The Loop area and failed once on 6 and once one 10. It wasn't that hard. I have a feeling that was the easy one though.

worst minigame ever. screw this programmer..

Also when is the last one made available? The one at the top left of the map.

The one in Pawnee is f**king impossible, also its available from the start ^

Hmm when I go in there it always says unavailable

If there is a crime happening nearby or there is a blume advert/Dedsec speech on TV you have to wait til they are over then he becomes available.

Besides the switching of direction of the analog sticks for the one at The Loop bar, which is horrible. The worst part is that if you fail you end up waking up far from the bar and have to walk back, making this mini-game all the more frustrating. Given the difficulty of the mini-game it just adds insult to injury for how you can't just restart fast.

I'm never getting this one!!

Stupidest achievement ever. Finished just 6 lvls in Pawnee. 5 th was most difficult for me

Never getting this one! ..the guy on Pawnee made me insult in morse code

I'm struggling with the last part of Pawnee Level 5. Any tips?

@Bastiaen - The center button pattern is BXA. The outer changing-buttons follow a trail - get say a B on one, the one directly under/to the left will go B as well and so on - follow that around the perimeter. That's how I got it.

I just beat level 10 for the two that aren't in pawnee and I try to do the guy in pawnee and it keeps saying that it's not available, what do I do? D:

Nevermind. I blew up everybody in there, including myself and when I respawned I could do it!

Nevermind. I blew up everybody in there, including myself and when I respawned I could do it!

Ive got an idea of how to do it a bit like the peggle2 glitch cos cheevo tracker says 33% i did the guy were you just press ABYX just wonderin if i delete save game then do the one i found easier if it would work...anyone tryed doin that?

@The Outcast2 I havent heard any one try that, i wonder if it works?
Maybe someone who had their save glitch on them and then had to start again had it pop early?

There maybe a difference in the timing window on different consoles, found this on the Ubisoft forum.

It would explain why @LostMantella9 found it easier, he did it on the PS4 version, not the XB1. Also the PS4 has a lower TA ratio than the XB1 for this achievement.

http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/886504-Social-Lubricant...

#155

"Just out of curiosity how many people that are having difficulty are playing on ps4 as apposed to ps3? I currently play on ps3 and I've watched numerous videos so far and the major difference I am seeing between my game and the ones streamed seems to be time. On my ps3 version I have a total of 6 seconds while the videos I've seen appear to have 8-10."

I had thought about the save trick. I've not used it on any games yet but have heard about it. You won't lose your main save, just the local one. And if you try it, DO NOT SYNC when you get back online.

I doubt the peggle save trick will work, for a start there is no progress bar on the Social Lubricant achievement.

For me there is, its 66%

The Peggle trick does NOT work. I tried last week after i got stuck on Pawnee 6.

Fuck the stupid levels that are one circle, two analogue sticks. I just can't get them to both stay in the circle. Stuck on Pawnee 4 and The Loop 8.

Pawnee 6 and loop 8, last achievement. This getting to be worse than the 5 finger fillet in "Rage"!

I hate taht sh*t !! So frustrating ! I think go gabk into the bar after losing make me more angry than the game itself ! I read on a french ubisoft forum that they notified it's really hardcore and maybe they will update it to make it more easier ... "maybe"

Bullshit achievement cannot do Pawnee 6

Pawnee 6 and loop done!

This is so difficult for 15g had to give up on Pawnee

Any tips on Pawnee 6? Been stuck there for ages.

@BrokenKnight Honestly get a friend to hold one side of the controller. Lot easier. Lot more fun.

Try inverting the X/Y axis in the settings to help with the sticks and hold the controller upside down when they switch them

loop 8 done - second try. not that hard.. pawnee will be pain in the ass huh? i try it until i have it.. :p

A petition to ubisoft has been put up (not by me) on link below to patch difficulty;

https://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/ubisoft-patch-watch-d...

last thing I need to 100% this game, and ubisoft can go F themselves if the think i'm buying the season pass.

it's done. pawnee level 7-10 with my first try.. Petition is absolutly bullshit..

If they make any changes to this, I will be very upset. What's next, nerfing the Veteran difficulties on games because some people can't do it? Get better or find another hobby. I did this achv while actually drinking, so you can't tell me it's "too hard"...you just have to practice, just like hitting time trial times or beating games on the hardest difficulty.

Your petition can SUCK IT.

If they change it, then it's not fair to the people who did it legitally. This wasn't hard at all. Most people don't want challenging achievements where they have to practice at it. They want all of those gimmie ones.

Legitally is not a word. If you are going to whine, whine with real words.

Well, I guess my achievement is broken. Tracker says 66%, in-game progression wheel says I should have the achievement. I've tried restarting the game, restarting my Xbox One, completing a fixer contract, and unlocking something else on the progression wheel. Nothing works. :(

A quick question since im thinking of grabbing this game. Do the levels save? Like it seems there's 10 drinks per guy, but say you beat drink 5, but fail the 6th, do you have to do drinks 1-5 again or can you start right at 6?

Same here Hunter, I'm gonna try and beat one of the guys again to see if it will unlock :(

I tried beating all 3 on level 10 again. It didn't work.

My achievement is also glitched. Same deal: progression says 6/6 and achievement tracker says 66%. I just beat the first guy on extreme (level 11) and still nothing to show for it.

If they change it, then it's not fair to the people who did it legitally. This wasn't hard at all. Most people don't want challenging achievements where they have to practice at it. They want all of those gimmie ones.

If they change it, then it's not fair to the people who did it legitally. This wasn't hard at all. Most people don't want challenging achievements where they have to practice at it. They want all of those gimmie ones.

I'll admit.. I have never used that word in my life and its not a word. Legitimately is what I meant. The only people "whining" on here are the ones signing the petition because its too hard and you saying your achievement "glitched".

Shanevolution.. You only have to start over the round. So if you fail round 6, then you only have to start 6 again. You keep all the other completed rounds.

Also when the solution tells you to "have two people holding the controller" in a pretty basic sandbox game... well that's clearly just messed up.
congratulations to all the people finding this easy by the way! You obviously have much better coordination than me or an insane amount of luck
I'm sure I'll get there eventually. I'm currently at level 6, 7 and 8 respectively with the three opponents. Seem to have reached somewhat of a sticking point though.

I see Hunter XBA's achievement also unlocked at some point. I can't speak for him, but mine has the correct time stamp from when I actually finished it.

One thing I failed to mention was the severe storms in my area yesterday. My power blinked twice and one of those times was while playing the second opponent. Maybe it threw the system out of sync. Either way, I'm happy to be done with it. That was a decent amount of effort to end up with nothing to show for it.

Shanevolution.. You only have to start over the round. So if you fail round 6, then you only have to start 6 again. You keep all the other completed rounds.

Maybe this was exactly how hard ubisoft wanted it to be? Any achievement can be a hard one. Who said a mini game achievement can't be the hardest one? The whole watch dogs avhievement list is easy as hell. One hard achievement won't kill you if you keep at it. Crimson dragon was the same way. Easy achievements except for one, which was extremely difficult. It took me weeks doing it every night until I finally got it. So much more rewarding. And by the way, you don't need two people to complete it. Not even close.

Solutions recommend the "easiest way", of completing an achievement. So just because they reccomend it means nothing. There's achievements in every game that I hate. Think of all the grinding achievements there are. I much rather do this one then grind something over and over.

That's where I'm at with it to be honest. I've beat level 10 in the wards, I'm at level 8 in the loop and level 6 in Pawnee. For me it is a grind. I've spent hours going over and over the same levels, running back to the bar from random spots and having to complete crimes in progress before I get another attempt. You may have found it easy but I absolutely suck at this part of the game.
I'd honestly rather do seriously again than this any day.

This isnt the first time ubisoft have done this to me this year, anyone played rayman legends?
this game had a list of seemingly easy achievements and then finally one horrifically painful one, reaching the final level of awesomeness was a long ass grind i played that game every night for nearly 3 months just to get it, the severs were wack and sometimes the scores didnt even count... i think the idea of a petition is a bit silly but people have aright to say what they think i suppose, i will soldier on with this i'm just hoping it wont take as long as rayman did

Could not get pass lv 4 with my 46 inch tv, went down to the basement and found an old 22 inch tv. Plugged it in and finished the achievement :) don´t know why it worked but it did. Better control on a smaller tv. Try it if you can!

Pawnee 6 is ridiculous. Don't think I'll ever get it unless that petition passes lol. It's not like devs don't make mistakes every now and again. Killer Instinct got patched for the Chosen One achievements, even after some people got all 12,000 matches or whatever, legit. Some things are just wayy too unfair.

Yes ubisoft does this alot. I also got the final level of awesomeness. 26 diamond cups and 7 weeks later, I got the achievement. Suzy second shooter is another game with easy achievements except for one. It took me two straight days to complete it. Some achievements take time and skill. That's why they call it an achievement..

Yes ubisoft does this alot. I also got the final level of awesomeness. 26 diamond cups and 7 weeks later, I got the achievement. Suzy second shooter is another game with easy achievements except for one. It took me two straight days to complete it. Some achievements take time and skill. That's why they call it an achievement..

DONE! All of them I was able to get first try except 3 of them with a smaller TV. Wards 7 took 2 tries. Pawnee 6 took 5 tries and Pawnee 10 took 2 tries. I can't stress enough how much better a small TV makes things! It still needs fixed, but it can be done with little stress if you are not on a 40+" TV.

Finally managed it after all the frustration, so here are my thoughts. Bearing in mind I struggled with this to no end, and I'm not one of the people coming in saying it was easy and you should all get better this may help some people.

- First (and I cannot stress this enough) TAKE. BREAKS. I struggled with this for hours on end getting wound up and pissed off and I failed time and time again. I stopped playing for about a week and worked on some other games, when I came back to it with a clear head I found it to be MUCH easier.

- Do Pawnee last. I know it's tempting to get the hardest one out of the way, but playing the other two first will really help you get a grasp of the game.

- Mute the god damn TV. The drinkers you play against have maybe 5 lines of dialogue each, it gets horrible. Plus the sounds give you cues when you're about to fail. You'll subconsciously start to panic and then you're done.

- Do not pay any attention to how much time you have. Don't get me wrong, you need to be pretty quick but if you're too aware of the times you'll get stressed and fail. You'll be amazed how long it feels like you have if you stop worrying about it.

- On the button levels, go for the hardest ones first. Eg, the ones that are 4 presses (X,Y,A,B etc) or the ones that change. Only get other buttons if you happen to go over them on your way to the harder ones.

- On the stick levels, don't try to do both at the same time. Settle one in the circle first and then move the other. From there only make minor adjustments.

- Don't try too much to push the stick into the circle. If you hold down on the stick it will keep moving after you let go, just make slight taps in the direction you need to move.

- In Pawnee when the sticks are reversed, immediately pause the game and flip your controller. It honestly makes these the easiest levels in the entire thing.

- When you have two question marks, pull your right stick to the right and your left stick to the left. This has a double benefit; you now know which is which AND they're on the right side of the screen.

- The last section of the loop is by far the hardest. You have no choice but to put the sticks on the wrong sides of the screen. If you have someone else to take control of a stick, perfect. This is where you need them. If not, be very slow and precise with your movements. If you start to lose control and panic you won't be able to get it back. This is back to front and it's hard enough for your brain to wrap around as it is. Don't make things harder on yourself. If you can pass this level you're home and clear.

- Playing on a smaller screen may make things easier if that's an option to you, but I did this on a 50" screen and like I said, I had huge problems to begin with. So it is definitely possible.

- If you don't have patience, watch the videos. Knowing what is coming up will help you. I learned the patterns through repeated failure, but if running back to the bar is going to piss you off you're making it harder for yourself. Try playing the video as you play, and pause the game to watch the next level before it happens. You won't receive tips on strategy from the videos, but you will have some idea of what the next level requires you to do.

And that's all I can offer. Remember the most important part of this is to stay calm. I beat the wards in one day, and then got massively stuck on the loop and pawnee. I struggled for hours and got angry and never got any further. Coming back off a long break I beat the loop from level 6 onwards and pawnee from level 4 onwards with only 5 failures in total!
Good luck!!

fuck this i give up not worth my fucking time for a measly 15 gamerscore. Go fuck yourselves Ubisoft.

Commenting merely to vent a little of my rage. Fuck this achievement. Fuck this game. Fuck this mini-game. Fuck whomever thought this was a good idea. Fuck Ubisoft. Fuck life. Goddamn I raged so hard I needed to eat something... That's a new one for me.

Took a break for a couple of days. Going to try it again tonight after playing some theif. This is by far one annoying achievement.

im actually incapable of beating pawnee level 6. i have retried it at least 20 times. The ABXY level are piss easy but the analog ones where the game decides to pull the analog stick out of the circle at the last second, i cant beat it for my life.

It has been impossible for me to do Pawnee Lv. 1.
Not because I suck at the game, but because it constantly says "Not Available"

Screw you ubisoft. Too stupid, too hardcore.

They are finally patching this in a couple days. I can finally go back and finish off this game

okay, i just completed all of the drinking games, the achievement says 100% but it has not unlocked.

So much easier since the patch! No fails for Pawnee from 6-10

@ rastab all the Watch_Dogs achievements are kind of buggy I had to replay the starter mission half a dozen times to get the Hello World achievement and I had to do 12 hacking to unlock the Hackification achievement. OT after the patch these are quite simple to do though it is still boring as hell and to complete level 1-10 with no failures took me 40 minutes.

Thank God Ubisoft fixed this! Finally it has been beaten!

Ubisoft shouldn't have fixed this. It required patience and skill to complete which a lot of players did easy and some it was hard for, it was hard when I did it and the happiness I had when I finally got it to 1000G WD was the greatest one this year

Finally got it :-)

Interesting to know it got patched to make it easier. Overall i actually thought it was too easy, really surprised by the ratio, they probably shouldn't have patched it. I passed all of them first try with no guide and no tricks. The button press ones are stupidly easy it's just the steadiness ones that can get tricky. I got nervous with the venn diagram one right at the end

Ive sat here for 6 hours trying to do the extreme one, let me just say.... i have the urge to strangle something right now, uggh the circle moves way too slow

This is by far the worst mini game I have ever played! I'm stuck on level seven with the extreme opponent. It's fucking bullshit!

For the one in Pawnee (Extreme), when it reverses the sticks if you just turn your controller upside down it will make those parts extremely easy. I think there were three parts like that on level 10 and while they aren't incredibly hard I would definitely flip your controller as it basically guarantees you won't fail on those. I believe they reverse on the 3rd and 4th part of number 10 and then I don't remember the 3rd.

Ok got to ten on loop. Last drink on ten where they are switched gets me still. I'm starting to realize this drinking game is 90% mind fuck and 10% difficulty. You need to be calm, relaxed, in a good place mentally. Getting all jacked up on nrg drinks and smashing these out sound like a good idea, but trust me its not. I can't be the only one who get anxious and fingers get a lil jittery after getting through the first few drinks thinkin this time I got it. But no you just get pissed and rage on Ta. Been there done that. You need to be calm and soberish. If a glass a wine, toke, shot or my fav xynax calms your nerves even just a bit do it. ( I am not telling you to go get trashed on illegal drugs or under age drink) But if you're a responsible adult do what you do to get your center. Afternoon when you are awake and not tired worked best for me coupled with my vice. Anyways complete a round or two, take a 3 min break and recenter, forget about the game for just a min and breath. I found this to be extremely helpful especially if you research a bit and watch the videos to get an idea of what's coming up, so you are not completely caught off guard. I envy you who claim this easy. Good luck all and stay calm!

For me I felt like Pawnee 6 was the hardest one. Once I made it past that, all the rest were cake. This was one tough SOB, wanted to quit more than a few times.

I just got this achievement. Honestly, I completed it on the Xbox one (someone said the timing is different on each console), no videos, no turning the controller upside down, no friend to help and I found this not that challenging.. The inverted ones were easy. The one I had a little trouble with was the last one on the loop. Be thankful there wasn't one with TWO inverted sticks at the same time. I was fully expecting and prepared for it lol.

UPDATE: My achievement unlocked at some point last night while I was asleep. I just now turned the Xbox on and it's there in my achievements list.

After giving up on trying to fix it, I switched over to Netflix and called it a night. I doubt the app had anything to do with it, bit I'm just including all details. For all I know, someone reported it and Ubisoft or Microsoft looked into the glitch issue. Also of note: Watch_Dogs was not running when it unlocked (I had exited the game and quit using the menu button).

Ive just done the drinking game in The wards and the loop all 10 levels in both of them without a single fail they are really easy but as for the Pawnee one that is a real pain and took me hours to do

itoday i have done the guy in the wards, for me level 6 was hard, lrvel 7-9 was easy for me an level 10 was hard again. Now i'am on level 6 at the loop guy. It's soooo hard to hold both sticks in the circles. This achievemnt is really annoying.
for a mini game it's to hard in my opinion.

Maybe they did, who knows. All I'm saying is to me it seems like a pointless area of a great game to attach such a hard achievement to. It's going to be more relieving than rewarding to me I think. To use my previous example, ninja gaiden II kicked my ass up and down the street on master ninja, but I enjoyed it and felt a huge sense of achievement when I beat it. This is a boring, frustrating repetitive mini game and I haven't enjoyed a second of the hours I've spent working on it. To me, personally, this has soured an otherwise great experience. I loved the rest of watch_dogs, but when I think back on the game this will be the part I remember. I don't see that as a good thing.
And I also in no way said you NEED two people to finish it, I said almost every solution and people commenting (with actual advice, not the ones saying "lol u all suk this was easy I did it first try in 10 minutes get gud fags") are recommending having one person for each analog stick.

This is no where near as hard as a lot of people are making it out to be, I didn't get stuck on any level more then a few turns, I get that its frustrating cause it's a boring shit mini game, that takes a good amount of time to complete, but its far from hard if you follow certain rules, like when your doing a loop one with 2 "?" instead of "L" and "R", point the left joystick left and the right joystick right, straight away doing this you'll figure out which ones which or like when the joysticks reversed near the end of the extreme opponent turn your controller upside down. the hardest part of the whole thing in my opinion is on level 10 of the loop guy where the right circle is left and the left circles right cause it throughs you off but the circles are pretty big making it pretty easy.

I think the point of the petition is this achievement is ridiculously out of sync with the rest. Noone should complain about hard achievements. Master ninja in ninja gaiden 2? Bring it on. Through the fire and flames, expert? You bet.
the thing is, this is just a minigame. It shouldn't be the hardest achievement currently on the xbox one. This SHOULD be an easy achievement. Hard achievements are fine, in the right context, but to attach an incredibly difficult achievement to a minigame that is absurdly difficult thanks to a) poor controls b) the fact you have to redo about 5 stages every time you fail c) each attempt takes about 5 minutes because you have to run back to the bar.
I probably won't sign the petition because I want to do it properly, but you have to recognise that when an achievement for a god damn optional minigame is the reason less than 5% of the gamers who own watch dogs have completed it something is seriously wrong there.

I was stuck on level 7 of the loop for hours on a 55" tv. Went to a 24" and did 7-10 first try. I only did Pawnee 6 5 times to finish it and had to retry 2 others twice. It sound stupid, but it really does help.

Hi, I just tried it myself because it made me crazy and I had to try it out myself. What my guess is, that it is not necessarily the size of the TV that matters but the input lag the TV in question has. I used rock band on 3 different TV's to find out which one had the smallest input lag. Then I played it on this particular TV (a very old non hd TV :-D ) and got all 3 oponents in like 2 hours or so. I don't know if it was some kind of placebo effect or something but I think it really did help to play it on a TV with a low input lag.

The first suggestion is the biggest key. Taking Breaks got me through this fairly quickly. Not just a break from the Drinking Game, but I'd watch a movie or something and come back to it.

Another thing i found and again maybe placebo is to move the look sensitivity right down, seems to allow finer control

well only goes to 720 which hardly makes a difference...

+1 for using a second person for the other stick, especially for most of Pawnee 6 and the last third of Pawnee 10. Also +1 for splitting 2 question marks out to the sides. +1 for the controller flip and pull into belly method for the reversed sections.

muting the TV was by far the best advice for this achievement. I actually had fun doing the button ones but keeping the sticks in the circles was a pain but muting made it dramatically easier. I'm just glad that last level didn't do hidden reversed controls.

These were by far the best tips. Especially pulling R and L to their respective sides when you don’t know which is which and flipping the controller around. Thank you!

Best advice here. Anyone saying it was easy, most likely didn't even finish it haha.

Lower resolution will help. I used to play team fortress with the resolution turned up and all pretty and was terrible, then dropped it down to nasty jaggies and was stupid good. It's the size of your target is a lot bigger and should work for this too. I'm going to attempt this on 480p on my 42" and will keep you posted.

Thanks Gambit. honestly I don't know how the game is programmed so I can't speak to whether there are actually any benefits to this method, but even if it is just the fact that you tried something you thought would help...you got the achievement. Whether that's actually the tv making a difference or a placebo effect I have honestly no idea, but either way it seems to have worked!
Tl;dr; if you have a smaller screen / non hd tv and you're struggling with this it's 100% worth giving it a shot!

I had an advantage on smaller screen as well. Haven't got the chievo yet, but getting there.

The reason why a small screen is better, is not because of programming of any sort. The xbox is responsible for output format. It is more likely to be a case of the human eyesight and concentration upon large or distant objects.
Being close to a large screen makes it impossible to see all objectives to do, because of the peripheral vision involved. Far away from the screen means to much distraction for your eyes in the same peripheral vision.
Being on the right distance from a smaller screen makes it possible to focus on more that is going on in front of you, without to much negative effect of peripheral vision. Thus making it easier to pass.

Partially scientific but certainly some placebo is in place. Whenever you believe something will work better, your concentration will increase using that method.