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Flawless Raider

Flawless Raider

Complete a Raid without anyone in your fireteam dying.

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How to unlock the Flawless Raider achievement in Destiny - Definitive Guide

Just a heads up for the people going for this. You cannot have someone join late and get the achievement only the 6 people that are in game from start to finish will get it if someone lags out or gets sent back to orbit you must re-do the raid from the beginning

EDIT3!!!: A lot of you are mad at me because I said don't try this if you are a 29. Let me reiterate what I was trying to say. This was from my personal experiences like I said. You don't have to take what I said there to heart it was just the steps I took to ensure that I got the achievement. There was ALWAYS that one guy who couldn't stay alive and most of the time it was a level 29. (there were some 30's who couldn't make the cut as well.) Again I played elitest and only took the best of the best from each group that I played with. If I saw someone dying or playing stupid I made sure not to play with them again. That was just me. If you unlock it from grinding it out day after day after day then more power to you, but I wasn't about to do that.

EDIT2!!!: I'm willing to help just message me on xbox but know your jumps

EDIT!!!: Now that I have finally unlocked this achievement here are a few tips from my personal experiences...
1. If you are not all 6 level 30 or up (and after the DLC is released there is NO REASON that you should not be level 30) do not even attempt the flawless raid I had a few level 29's play with me and they were like "I can hold my own I'm good I swear" don't listen to them it's not about being good its about the damage reduction.

2. Be Patient on all jumping sections and go one at a time... NO EXCEPTIONS. I have had numerous occasions where someone died because they would not wait their turn on the jumping section they either bumped into someone and fell off or knocked the other person off.

3. Lastly Find people that know what they are doing and have them prove it... I have had times where they were just clueless on every aspect of what we were trying to accomplish. Some people are just not cut out for flawless no matter how many times they try and sorry for those of you that are like that but you need to be replaced for now (maybe you will have a shot when the level cap is raised). I used to play with anybody that wanted the achievement but it just doesn't work like that, I then went to being an elitist and finding the best gamers to accomplish the task weeding out all the players that I felt could not do it and look what happened I unlocked it
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Well, this is bullshit because I can't go a half-hour without someone I'm playing with getting kicked.
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By Wicked Jei on 10 Oct 2014 21:02
I heard from two people that have this acheivment that if someone dies go to orbit and then continue from checkpoint that it works. Can anyone else confirm this?
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By SinisterSean X on 11 Oct 2014 05:16
^False
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By CrestfallenSilk on 12 Oct 2014 01:25
Yeah thats what i thought.:(
Thanks Fear for the confirmation.
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By SinisterSean X on 12 Oct 2014 05:43
Fear hasn't even played Destiny
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By I InFamousDj I on 12 Oct 2014 05:54
Fear hasn't even played Destiny
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By I InFamousDj I on 12 Oct 2014 05:55
InFamous...he's got it stacked on both consoles and has this achievement. I find it hard to believe that you could possibly miss that.
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By MomentousFlea4 on 12 Oct 2014 07:08
Can anyone confirm this , what SinisterSean X asks ??
Is there anyone who can give us an answere of our question ?
thanks for it !
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By k basti on 12 Oct 2014 09:13
Basti it does not work just tried a few hours ago doing that.
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By Jeigh on 12 Oct 2014 13:46
Thank you for the quick answere !
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By k basti on 12 Oct 2014 16:54
Just going to state for all further "shortcut" sort of questions for this achievement, from what I understand from people I've talked to, they purposely made this pretty hard/impossible to cheese.
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By MomentousFlea4 on 12 Oct 2014 18:09
Thanks for the responses everyone.Hopefully the next raid will be easier with no crappy jumps every time i try for this the only time my team dies is on that jump.
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By SinisterSean X on 13 Oct 2014 04:21
This is what i wanna know, if someone lags out n we finish it without him will we still get the achievement
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By MastaGamerRican on 13 Oct 2014 17:50
^yes, but they can't join back.
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By CrestfallenSilk on 13 Oct 2014 18:22
^Has to be in one sitting.
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By CrestfallenSilk on 13 Oct 2014 21:00
thanks for the help in answering questions FEAR
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By qDirtyBryanp on 13 Oct 2014 22:23
No problem toast
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By CrestfallenSilk on 13 Oct 2014 22:32
pretty hard when the servers for this game are terrible people dc every 20 min
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By DevilsNightt on 14 Oct 2014 14:21
So, probably a stupid question, but if you die and everyone wipes and goes back to checkpoint, does that still count? Or do you need to restart the raid?

Also if a sunsinger warlock dies and self resurrects do you still get it or restart?
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By TheBrhyno on 14 Oct 2014 17:07
sunsinger does not help and no wiping if one person dies you have to go back to orbit and restart from beginning
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By qDirtyBryanp on 14 Oct 2014 17:37
You even play Destiny bro?
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By Smallywood on 16 Oct 2014 11:01
Give it time guys as expansions come out and everyone is level 50+ come back to VoG and speed run It lol
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By Foxy Gray on 18 Oct 2014 05:18
bruh??? you think we got that kind of patience?
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By qDirtyBryanp on 18 Oct 2014 06:43
Yes I do believe with expansions coming out this raid will be a breeze which it really already is lol... definitly be level 29-30 if you attempt this right now. Also make sure you know what happens during the vourse of the full raid... and please dont fall off the map and if you get spotted unload if you kill yhe first gorgon you don't fail ;)
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By That505Guy on 18 Oct 2014 12:01
Defense and Danae get nerfed when you are too high leveled over your enemies.

fucking IGN is saying you can just load up an Atheon checkpoint on normal and as long as nobody dies you can get the achievement.

What a bunch of fucking idiots.
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By on 19 Oct 2014 19:43
I have destiny on the 360. If I buy it on the one will the achievements unlock right away?
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By Shenron#8515 on 19 Oct 2014 21:02
Yes.
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By CrestfallenSilk on 19 Oct 2014 22:10
People on the PS4 also say that it works when reloading Atheon checkpoint (back out to orbit). Anyone actually tried this on One?
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By cptObbes on 20 Oct 2014 03:42
Does not work on Xbox One. Only PS4.
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By Smallywood on 20 Oct 2014 05:40
Will it work on 360 actually?
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By Reabo on 20 Oct 2014 08:41
^ For the clan achievement all members in the clan must also be on each other's friends list and follow each other or the achievement will not unlock.
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By Smallywood on 22 Oct 2014 13:34
^Not true. You only need to be on each others friends list to see what clan they are in. However the achievement will pop regardless as long as they set the clan to their xbox clan.
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By CrestfallenSilk on 22 Oct 2014 13:37
No one should be backing out.
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By CrestfallenSilk on 23 Oct 2014 00:00
You cant have someone back out and rejoin as when anyone joins an in progress raid they spawn in as dead, and this will count as a death.

People can drop out and you can get the achievement.

With a good fireteam the only issues you will have in this is the gorgons (sometimes they have BS patterns), the platform jumping, and any game breaking glitches that occur (such as teleports not opening, or not being able to pick up relics).
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By DRAGONKZ on 28 Oct 2014 23:41
Damn! over 100 positive votes just for a heads up! wtf
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By Strategy One on 29 Oct 2014 08:05
I know that was my first thought as well
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By qDirtyBryanp on 29 Oct 2014 13:06
Does anyone know if say 1 or 2 players die during the raid, then just before Atheon is killed, those 1 or 2 quit, will the remaining players (who haven't died) get the achievement?
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By Kooky Cow 32 on 29 Oct 2014 17:51
no because it will still count as a death and they will still be listed in the endgame report the only reason it does not count if someone lags out is because they never died
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By qDirtyBryanp on 29 Oct 2014 17:57
Are they really listed in the end game report if they aren't in the game any more? So like if 1 person left, a new person joins, that person leaves, another joins etc, then at the endgame report there will be more than 6 names?
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By Kooky Cow 32 on 29 Oct 2014 18:34
yup if you don't believe me I can link you to one of my games where this took place
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By qDirtyBryanp on 29 Oct 2014 18:47
The Only DBry is correct. The only way you will get the achievement is if everyone stays in the game until the end and doesn't die, or if someone disconnects (intentionally or from lag...etc)
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By DRAGONKZ on 30 Oct 2014 03:29
I'm contemplating writing a guide for this based on the runs that I did with my teams, but I'm not sure how to best capture all the knowledge we have and pass it on (ie, videos, or text guide...etc)

The biggest issue that you will have with this achievement is the glitches.

My teams made it to the Gatekeeper/Atheon fights a good 8-9 times without dying, and we would always encounter a game breaking bug literally always at that point (eg, enemies not moving or not taking damage, portals not opening, relics can't be picked up...etc)

We'd basically have to quit out and start again.

Hopefully some of this has been fixed by now.
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By DRAGONKZ on 30 Oct 2014 04:13
^ it's still not fixed but what they did do is add randomized teleporting on atheon
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By qDirtyBryanp on 30 Oct 2014 11:17
After running the raid several times dying from enemies in the end will not be the main worry. It'll be the gorgon maze, jumps and the portal glitches.

http://youtu.be/5MGK1T2enyo

Here is a less than 1 min route through the gorgon maze. Worked for us every time. Now just need to make everyone competent at the platforms!
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By Reabo on 31 Oct 2014 09:38
I would like to add that if someone dies you cannot kick them and carry on. We got to atheon 2 of us died. Leader kicks them and we still didn't get the achievement. It had to e one run with all 6 surviving.
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By x DJ JEZ x on 22 Nov 2014 17:01
So did the run with 6 ppl last night and we did it as intended. No deaths. And only one person got the achievement. ....how shitty
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By D3V1Lz ASSAZZ1N on 01 Dec 2014 00:58
Thank you for adding to this and making into a solution instead of just a note of what will stop the achievement from unlocking. My vote has been changed from down to up.
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By Weezleram on 05 Dec 2014 18:20
I think I did this with a team of 3 29's and 3 30's so yes skill plays a big part. You can still complete it that way.
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By Dralunt on 05 Dec 2014 19:18
I did it with all 29's :/
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By CrestfallenSilk on 05 Dec 2014 23:42
I meant is not so severe....
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By Alpha Wesker 5 on 06 Dec 2014 01:30
Ok we did it, one guy got lagged out at Atheon. Atheon was almost dead, we decided to finish it anyway, the guy that got kicked had to do a hard reset and whilst he was doing that we completed the raid and the acheavo popped for us. Gutted for the guy who got kicked though. However if he didnt have to do a hard reset he would of been back with us straight away and we would not of got it. Taking him back through though so he gets it :)
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By Dunkinuts on 07 Dec 2014 12:03
30 is recommended but not required. My group was one of the first groups to obtain this achievement, and two of us were 28 (including myself), two were 29, and the other two were 30's. The main thing that is required more is having all your skill tree set to max armour/recovery, and having weapons fully leveled.
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By on 08 Dec 2014 11:06
30 isn't required. We did it with three 30's and three 29's. Everyone just needs to understand all of the mechanics and their own roles. On top of that, don't take any unnecessary risks. For example, if you lose shields take cover instead of trying to sneak an extra few shots in, it's not worth it.
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By xIx EDGE xIx on 11 Dec 2014 18:47
Um, just realised, that u actually wont get any damage reduction or more hit from enemies if ur 28 or more. Cuz this can be and ofc should be done on normal. Omg like gorgons on hard or atheon with the numerous bugs...
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By SaberFusion1 on 28 Jan 2015 21:30
Rumors of this working on the lvl 32 prison of elders. May want to lol into that
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By Fuzzmeister J on 20 May 2015 21:59
@Fuzzmeister J If someone can confirm in the comments I will add it in right away.
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By qDirtyBryanp on 20 May 2015 22:04
You can't get Flawless Raider via PoE. Confirmed.

I'm looking to get this, so any help would be appreciated.
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By hunterIV on 24 May 2015 16:03
Hi everyone, I just did Cropta raid without dying with a friend, but success has not unlocked home, whereas in yes. Why? What should I do? Thank you for your answers. Good game.
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By Flozzy0312 on 06 Jun 2015 23:07
I'm a lvl 34 hunter and I am very experienced in the vog raid. I have all vog weapons ascended and i am looking for a team to do this achievement with as well as crota on hard on this Friday??? If anyone is interested in helping send me a fr on xbox and a message there too
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By FearBlarg on 18 Aug 2015 07:14
I managed to do this with a group last night. Be warned though that this achievement is glitched like half of the Xbox One achievements, not unlocking after you flawlessly complete the raid. Just make sure you go to "Switch Profile" in the options menu and re-log in with the same guardian. The achievement will pop mid way in the loading screen,

Best of luck for those who are still going for it! The key is patience, communication, not 'warp' jumping and chocolate. lol
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By TitleInLarge on 18 Aug 2015 13:42
Its possible to do this Cheevo, without 6 people? Can i made as 3?
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By Aragimle on 14 Sep 2015 12:50
yes you can do it with a minimum of 3 people on the crota's end raid
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By qDirtyBryanp on 14 Sep 2015 20:15
@Aragimle and The Only DBry...and, well, everyone else. You can get it by soloing the Crota's End raid, you don't need a minimum of three or anything. I got it this way myself, by soloing normal difficulty. Plenty of guides on youtube that show the best ways to do each part solo. I will mention, though, that you do need a minimum of three for the Vault of Glass, because with less you can't pass through the gorgon's maze as the exit is blocked (unless that's been changed after dark below).
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By RianBattle on 08 Jun 2016 19:03
How many people are actually required/needed to run through Vault of Glass to get the achievement? I need the achievement on my main gamertag so if people wanna help out, let me know.
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By TPB Maestro on 17 Dec 2016 22:44
is that Hydro - I don't have any of the DLC. That is why I was wondering about doing it on VoG.
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By TPB Maestro on 19 Dec 2016 01:34
To complete VoG flawless you need AT LEAST a 4 person fireteam, however a full fireteam are recommended
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By liviaro on 01 Jan 2017 08:00
I did this Achievement solo using only one hand. So yeah it's doable and really easy on Crota's End. Here's a video of it: https://www.bungie.net/en/Community/Detail?itemId=223104119 I'd appreciate it if someone could leave a like. :)
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By Σχ şlαy3r on 15 Mar 2017 09:41
This is defiantly possible still solo ppl just font know how to do the bridge part correctly
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By FpsGoku420 on 27 Mar 2024 10:36
Thatguy505, yeah the level cap is going to increase at 32 for the 1st DLC so in away after both DLC is out this will be a simple breeze once you leveled your player and gear to the highest level! :) so eventually the VoG will hopefully a simple breeze. UNLESS they have a future ach. completing every Raid Flawless.... shock
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By SHMEEDIDDY on 20 Oct 2014 17:38
"People on the PS4 also say that it works when reloading Atheon checkpoint (back out to orbit). Anyone actually tried this on One?"

"Does not work on Xbox One. Only PS4."

^^^ That's not true.
I have Destiny on PS4 and I've tried this today with some friends. We played normally (having a couple of deaths) until we reach the last checkpoint. Then we went to orbit and again to the raid, where after that, no one died.At the end, we didn't receive this trophy.
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By Project K2 on 23 Oct 2014 05:06
All I would suggest is that if you have any concern you might fail on the platforms, get a checkpoint the next time you are at that part and then practice on your own. It is not good enough to say you made it, you need to be able to make it EVERY time. I suggest you keep practicing until you make it across 20 - 50 times in a row. You fail - you start that count again. If you spend an hour doing this, it will save wasting 30 minutes just getting to that part, and give you great confidence that you have a tried and tested way across when you come under pressure from the rest of your fireteam.

If your fireteam get to that part and the same person fails, causing you to restart more than 2 or 3 times, I suggest you replace them and tell them to go and spend more time practicing rather than wasting your time.

There is no reason to fail the Gorgon part, again practice it until you have it flawless.

To get all the way to the Gatekeepers or Atheon only to fail because of a bug is hugely demoralising. Either take a good break, or try again another day.
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By HolyHalfDead on 04 Nov 2014 00:09
@Weezleram... My view was that I can't give a solution until I actually unlock the achievement (because it would'nt be a true solution then) and now that I have I can tell people what gave me success
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By qDirtyBryanp on 05 Dec 2014 22:13
Level 29 can do it of they know what they are doing. The damage reduction is so severe that you would sacrifice one good level 29 player for a bad level 30 who doesn't have a clue what he's doing... I do get what you are saying but I would change the guide....
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By Alpha Wesker 5 on 06 Dec 2014 01:29
Just wanted to let people know Crota's end can no longer be done solo and flawless. You will need a fireteam of 6 to get past the bridge. It is still the easiest raid to get this achievement on though.
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By DISTRICT 1505 on 09 Aug 2022 02:10
Well done. I was in a group of just 4 29's that got all the way to Atheon without dying (that's 2 less people to screw it up for you). So 6 level 32's with 334 dmg weapons should have no trouble at all now. It's the glitches that stand in your way. Of course this achievement was even easier for the people that got it by pushing the Templar and Atheon of the edge.

Tell me why a solution isn't a true solution unless you have the achievement. Sure, you can't really write a solution on how to complete Vault of Glass if you have never even done the Raid. But for an achievement such as this, if you have finished VoG over 30 times you would think that makes a person an expert. How will someone be able to write a solution on how to complete Crota's End when there isn't an achievement to prove it is a true solution? I went ahead and wrote one for Crota's End anyway. Call it what you want, it already has lots of negative votes so I don't care, but currently it is the only one on TA.
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By HolyHalfDead on 11 Dec 2014 06:28
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For those of you who are better at following written directions, read the solutions above. If you prefer visuals and want to see exactly what we did I'll post the link of the video. In case it doesn't show up my channel is (Brendan MaNiA). Hope you guys enjoy. We failed at the end so many times because of the BBS (Bungie BS). Good Luck :D
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Or $25
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By xxTank1038xx on 05 Nov 2014 20:05
What do you mean $25?
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By Sycomaniaa on 05 Nov 2014 23:47
Watched ur vid. Ur team was badass. U provided me a great tool to work with thanks.
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By PNOIDSCHIZ on 06 Nov 2014 18:29
Watched ur vid. Ur team was badass. U provided me a great tool to work with thanks.
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By PNOIDSCHIZ on 06 Nov 2014 18:31
Thank you. I'm glad to see people enjoy the video :D
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By Sycomaniaa on 07 Nov 2014 07:27
Nice video! We have been trying this but have been having problems with the first teleport. It keeps glitching and only sending in 1 person or maybe 2. It keeps breaking our momentum and causing us to wipe.
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By HARD2KILL NY on 10 Nov 2014 17:01
What you have to do is open the portal fast and have someone jump in to help. I've had to do that on failed runs.
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By Sycomaniaa on 10 Nov 2014 21:23
We got it tonight. If one or two only get teleported, pickup the relic and haul ass out of the portal. Keep doing that until the right number of people get teleported.
Thanks for the advice
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By HARD2KILL NY on 11 Nov 2014 05:47
Hard2Kill, Dont you succumb to oracles then though? Or do you just miss out on times vengeance?
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By Samphaa on 17 Nov 2014 10:04
Nice vid, how long did your team practice before you were able to get the run through down pact.
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By Cataclizm742 on 18 Nov 2014 04:56
The people I played with tried for about a month before I joined them. Took us about a week but we only tried a couple times a night. I only died once on some BBS though.
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By Sycomaniaa on 18 Nov 2014 07:08
Sampha, as long as you dont kill anything and get out right away, you do not succumb to oracles. For some reason i have only seen the teleport glitch and flawless runs only.
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By HARD2KILL NY on 22 Nov 2014 19:56
I want this achievement BADLY! At the time of posting this, I'm a lvl 32 Warlock with the guns to handle the job. Who ever wants this achievement my gt is Infamous Deoblo
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By Samuel Means on 30 Dec 2014 01:01
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EDIT: With the level cap raised to 40, the implementation of the light level system and the nerf of the Gjallahorn you may now disregard whatever is listed below and in the guide when it comes to gear/level requirements.


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[0.Introduction]

Flawless raider is arguably the toughest achievement in Destiny. Your own skill is not the only factor that might prevent you from earning this achievement, the quality of your companions and whether or not they are capable of coordinating as a team are equally important.

After a lot of trial and error, tweaking the strategies and doing attempts with fireteams consisting of different individual participants i have unlocked this achievement and i have decided to share our strategy in detail with you. I am hoping this guide will be able to aid at least some among you in tackling this test of teamwork. We were able to do it on both Crota and Vault of Glass.

I have decided to write guides for both the Vault of Glass and for Crota's end. ( See detailed guides for both raides below)

This guide is no guarantee for success. It's no fool proof plan that cannot go wrong ; it is merely a strategy that worked for my team and lets us run these raids with the least amount of casualties. The guides may not always provide the fastest strategy or even what some could argue to be the 'best' strategy. These strategies try to cover the 'safest' strategies for the average group of destiny players. These guides shy away from trick jumps, complicated glitches and anything that is just not feasible with your average fireteam. If you find yourself blessed with an extremely gifted group of players then by all means; do your thing but if you are like me and you are what i would describe an 'average' player who has to lead other 'average' players through the raid without casualties then this is the way to go.

Moving on...


1. Preparation

-Ensure that everybody in your team has a fresh set of batteries in their controller.
-You have to finish this session with the 6 people that started the raid. People are not allowed to rejoin if they are being disconnected. If a person disconnects during the last phase of the raid it would be a waste to restart because the final sections of the raids are easily done with only 5 people. At that point you want to ensure that none of your random friends joins you so make sure that your fireteam is closed before you start.

This is how you do that :

Xbox One


1.From the roster section, select the icon at the top of your Fireteam roster. This will take you to Xbox Home.

2.Select Friends.

3.Select My profile.

4.On the right under JOIN IN, select Destiny.

5.Set the third option to Require invites and not Set to joinable.




VAULT OF GLASS



CROTA's END



[Conclusion]

I will probably be tweaking this guide some more over the next few weeks but in the meanwhile i am willing to answer any questions regarding this guide. Just ask them in the comments below and i will get to them as soon as possible.

GOOD LUCK

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Amazing guide. If I ever get a good team together this is going to be the way we do it. Thanks for your hard work and detailed pics and explanations of the fights.
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By Wiznyatt on 29 Mar 2015 17:44
Thank you. I have updated the information.
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By Cenrail on 03 Apr 2015 20:36
Little late to the party but I would like to point out that a Sunsinger is actually pretty useful. If for nothing else, having one will make regenerating supers a great deal easier. Heart of Praxis and a good sunsinger will clear a room and make a lot of orbs for the whole team. Like the rest of the guide though.
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By Aura of Heroism on 08 Jun 2015 16:34
@ Aura: You can say that about any class, really, with the right equipment. Alpha Lupi with either Hunter or Titan will make a lot of orbs (9 max) and, if you have your intellect maxed, you can pop supers all day long.

Even better is the Obsidion Mind/Bad JuJu combo for a Voidwalker: String of Curses + Insatiable = Super spamming fun. wink
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By a Fi1thy Casual on 10 Jun 2015 18:13
Well, one thing that pleads in favor of sunsinger could be radiant skin which makes you more or less indestructable. I will squeeze that in. Thanks for the suggestions.
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By Cenrail on 10 Jun 2015 18:15
One more thing to note, my group was only 4 people. We figured the less people the less chance of someone dying.
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By Darkness727420 on 04 Sep 2016 14:58
Great guide, just have one correction: playing the VoG on normal during the Templar sequence, you only have to worry about 1 oracle marking you - you do not need to wait for the "Mark x2". That is only on hard.
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By a Fi1thy Casual on 03 Apr 2015 18:47
So I have done flawless on the 360 version using the crotas end. Your guide for crota is spot on, with the exception of a few typos but that is neither here nor there. I should note that I was bored this morning and what better way to pass time then read guides lol. Anyway the only thing you left out for the 1st section when soloing, is the other team members should go to the left side along the rock wall and ease their way forward after the hunter has made it to light 2 or 3. This causes the thrall to despawn around the hunter and spawn around the group lagging behind. This helps the hunter tremendously, as I was the hunter soloing, I've literally had thrall right in front of me and disappear (I was crouching but not invisible yet). The only issue with this is the laggers will have a weight of 10 constantly and have to watch out for holes, giggity. This isn't to difficult as long as people are calling out where the hole is(have a designated hole caller). Now the thrall will occasionally go after the hunter but every few seconds will despawn and go after the laggers. The only tricky part is getting to the rock at the bridge, left or right rock works as I've tried and tested both. Now I understand this method might work best with people you know, but my group was doing pretty good considering we had no chemistry. Only thing that was an issue was myself if I didn't make it on the rock, I panicked the first few times and got destroyed. I then chilled out and if I didnt make it I would first crouch behind the rock I missed until I went invisible, then moved to the tall rock next to the small less cool rock by the light. Crouched went invisible, some luck is involved when doing this. If you get to the tall rock, sometimes the thrall will know where you are sometimes they won't. Best to have all your armor into discipline to reduce blink strike cool down. Keep moving between the rocks by the bridge and the tall rock by crouching and knifing. Try to save your super until after the bridge is formed. I realized that when it says it's formed it's really not there, that's why it's best to wait a few seconds to cross when it says it formed. The ogre I honestly didn't find to be any trouble, either on the rock or not so long as you keep going invisible he won't bother you. Plus if you shoot while your invisible you'll become visible thus making the effect less effective. Hope this helps you or anyone that reads this.
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By Darkness727420 on 04 Sep 2016 14:33
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Don't be worry about the Atheon glitch.

What you need to do if only one (or) two (people) get teleported is the one person needst to take the relic and exit through the portal ignoring all enemies including the oracles.

So if any number of people other then 3 teleport just grab the relic and run past the enemies and exit through the portal continuing to fight Atheon.

You will not get times Vengeance this time but you will have an attempt again for the next cycle.

Hope this helps for the glitch ending many peoples flawless raider run-thoughs!
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20 Nov 2014 12:21

Just a quick heads up for anyone who has been struggling with this. You can now obtain this very easily in Crota's End.

First let me warn you that in a group once you pass through the light at the end of the first section some of you will hear guardian down and you will lose heavy ammo, this does not void the achievement.

Ok so for the first section have some lamp bounce over the wall and solo this section for the whole group.

For the bridge section there are many ways to cheese this but the safest is to all go into the room the sword bearer spawns from and up onto the ledges at the back while one person triggers the enemies to spawn and then comes and joins you. After a few seconds the enemies apart from sword bearer will despawn and then you are free to just get up high and snipe the enemies across the bridge untill you have killed the 2 ogres.

For the long shrieker hallway, Stay near the starting door, kill the first shrieker then back right up the way you came from so the death rays that chase you cannot reach anyone. Do the same for the second one and then simply run to the end of the hallway to stop the thralls from spawning.

Now onto Ir Yut, Probably the only risky part to this raid using so much cheese. Have 1 person run into either side to trigger the wizards to chase you now simply jump up to where the Hive knights usually spawn during the crota fight and snipe them fromup there. Now have 1 person go into each side with rockets (Preferably Gjallarhorn and shoot 1 rocket at each shrieker and return to your team up on the platforms) and simply continue to pick off the remaining enemies to reach the final encounter

Now you have reached crota himself. The easiest and safest way to do this is to clear both left and ride sides of the crystal and then have the host disconnect once crota is downed to ensure victory since he will remain on his knees the whole time. (PLEASE NOTE Someone disconnecting will not void the achievement)

Now simply kill the sword bearer while 1-2 people kill the top left knights and go to town on crota while he bows down before you.

A few additional things to mention

1 Person will have left the game (Host) so you will need to do the run twice for everyone to get the cheevo unless you cheese crota with using 2 swords or simply kill him legit

If you use the method of the host leaving make sure he DOES NOT reload destiny until you all have killed crota or else it will automatically have him rejoin the game

If you die from falling into the abyss at the start simply return to orbit and try again

I would say you have very limited time to use the above methods as patches are sure to come this month to fix all this cheese

If you use youtube you will find videos of every method i mentioned above.

If you do not like cheese then this is not for you but after seeing a friend of mine join 20+ sessions for this cheevo and i tried for the first time ever last night and unlocked it within an hour this is without a doubt the safest method as of right now (Jan 4th 2015)
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04 Jan 2015 12:18

It´s quite clear how to get the achievement with the guides already posted, but I will explain my way how to get it playing solo in Crota.

To do it I used the hunter, in my case level 34 although it can be done also with at least level 32.

This is the hunter subclass setup I used:

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These are the weapons I used:

- Gjallahorn: Must have. If you don´t have it you can´t run Crota solo.
- Icebreaker: Just to do heave weapon glitch and to kill the first ogre. (required if you want to do it).
- No Land Beyond: Just to do heavy weapon glitch. (not necessary)
- Swordbreaker: Used basecally with Knights.
- Hunger of Crota: Just used when doing heavy weapon glitch (not necessary).
- Fatebringer: Is not necessary but very recommended.
- Black Hammer: Used basecally with Knights.

The armor I highly recommend using is "Don´t touch me" gauntlets and one boots that allows you to carry one more rocket for the heavy weapon. Use the defender class with invisibility setup.

I will resume the important tips you have to take into account so that you can run Crota with guarantee. This raid is divided in 5 areas: Lamps - Bridge - Howlers - Wizards/Ir Yut - Crota.

- Lamps: With "Don´t touch me" is very easy to go through this area. I start with Fatebringer, Icebreaker (it gives you +2 of agility) and Hunger of Crota. When you activate the last lamp wait until it goes red and activate the brigde, and just jump to the rock closed to the last lamp. Once the ogre appears kill it with the Icebreaker. At this point I change the equipment to Fatebringer, Swordbreaker and Gjallahorn, also take a recharge of heavy weapon ammunition to use it with the 2 ogres at the bridge.

- Bridge: As far as I know, we have to do this part in the normal way. We have to activate the bridge and try to kill the swordbearer as close to the activation circle as possible. Once the bridge is built we have to take the sword and run through it, giving a little jump at the finish. On the other side we kill the swordbearer and we can start killing all the little enemies we see until the two ogres appear. Each ogre needs three rockets, just be carefull with the wizards.

- Howlers: If you have any rockets left, kill the first howler from the beginning. To kill the second one, go invisible and jump to the second rock so that enemies can´t touch you, and kill from there the second howler. At this point is recommended to do the heavy weapon glitch so that we can kill the 2 wizards and the 2 howlers in the next area (each wizard needs 2 rockets and each howler needs 1 rocket).

- Wizards/Ir Yut: We have to be fast. I always start from the left wizard which is a bit more difficuld due to the amount of Knights. Launching two rockets to the wizard will kill her, wait until the howler appear and kill it with one rocket, and run to the right side. Use the same tactic, but when killing the second howler run to the tower. Its recommend to clear the enemies so that we can enter to kill Ir Yut easier. If we have rockets left use them with the Kights, and recharge the rockets because we will use them with Ir Yut. Wait until she starts singing to run to the center, and jump to the cornise (as in the video below). Once there launch all the rockect until she dies, and then leave the area. Now we only have to kill all the enemies, just take your time and use the black hammer to kill the Knights. You can also do the heavy weapon glitch as I did, but is not necessary because you can do it later.

- Crota: Once we have killed all the enemies, we will prepare to do the heavy weapon glitch. We will need 4 rockets per sword to make Crota kneel down (twice per sword), but is preferable to have enough rockets. I recommend to kill the first swordbearer with the swordbreaker from the position you take the chalice, this way we will have more time to hit Crota, but depends if you are hit, don´t take unnecesary risks. With two swords you can kill Crota, if you need a
third one ogres will appear. Be carefull because if you can´t kill Crota with more than 4 swords he will enter in fury, and you will be killed.

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09 Jul 2015 08:25

THIS SOLUTION MAYBE VOID AS OF JAN 13th 2015 WHEN GLITCHES ARE FIXED.



CROTA RAID

Suggested team: All 30-32, don't even bother trying with anyone lower than that it is just a waste of time and you will be carrying them the whole way.
Have 2 titans with weapons of light unlocked. As mentioned by Runner eGirl , you might want everyone to appear offline so no one can jump into your session accidentally, since they will spawn in dead and thus voiding the achievement.

Pre-Game: Choose a host, this person will be disconnecting from the raid at the very end and will not be joining back. So to be fair you might have to run the session twice for everyone to get the achievement. Designated roles through out the process listed below. IE who is running the lantern maze, who will be triggering the wizards, killing shriekers, ETC. A little time spent here will pay off in the end. Once everyone knows their roles take that long jump down. Take your time with these sections. The raid is very short in comparison to Vault of Glass and less random deaths will occur, but you still might get some odd bungie bug.

Sections:

Long Jump down: Spawn the bridge by standing on the plate. wait till the bridge has spawned fully before crossing. Now some people have problems not dying at the bottom so as a suggestion I would recommend spacing out your falls. Secondly triggering your second jump, boosters, or floating right after it says spawning disabled. This will cause the least amount of damage possible (My hunter would just scrap by at this point at level 31).

Lanterns section: One person lantern jumps from second lantern. Follow around on path till you get to the bridge spawn, jump on some rocks to kill off ogre. The guy messes up in the video at this part, because he fails to jump over the shots fired by ogre, plus he is level 27.
Video for help:

IMPORTANT; IF YOU HEAR GUARDIAN DOWN AFTER TRANSITION TO NEW AREA DON'T PANIC. IT WILL STILL WORK. You might even see a hit x to revive on your screen (don't touch it just in case). But you should all be fine. Mind you please check to see that there are no people down before going to the next area.

Bridge Section: Go to the back where Sword Knight spawns hide on stacks in the back for 5-15 seconds, this will despawn all enemies except Sword Knight. Hop on your favourite raised area outside and start killing across bridge. Take out the wizard and two ogres before spawning and crossing the bridge.
Video for help:

Shriekers section: Gally the first one, titan put up a shield to block purple. move up slowly killing, Gally the second after titan has shield ready to block purple. Move forward killing the remaining enemies. Don't even bother with any chests in this run, its not worth rushing to get to the door at the end of this hallway.

PreCrota section: (Hardest part of the raid). Split up into two groups, one left one right. Jump onto the boomer spawns on opposite sides of the map. DO NOT SHOOT AT OR TRY NOT TO TOUCH ANY KNIGHTS YET. Once everyone is in position have someone on each side activate the wizards. Kill off the wizards with your snipers. Once they are down or shot at sometimes the Deathsinger's song will start. You need to be quick as you have about 3 minutes once the song starts to kill the Deathsinger. Have one person on each side ready to go and Gally the Shriekers inside. Drop weapons of light from titans and go kill the Deathsinger. Once its dead, mop up the rest of the enemies and get ready for Crota.
Video for help:

Crota: Disconnects still work. Reminder the host should be disconnecting and not coming back in. First bit, stand on the crystal. Next branch off left and right take out enemies, titans should drop shields if needed. Meet in the middle under the tower (this way you avoid all the snipers). Titan with weapons of light and person doing the sword will be the only ones outside. Now the fun part. Drop Crota to his knees, and host disconnects. See below for details how to do this. If done right this should keep him down. Next drop the sword barer knight. Once he is dead the sword carrier (pref level 32) and titan go out. Use weapons of light around Crota and have the sword barer start swinging. If you can't drop him in one go, rally back at the middle under the tower (have the sword runner grab chalice if need be). Kill off ogre's before venturing outside. Locate new sword barer, kill him and repeat the above steps with Crota.
Video for Help:

Achievement should pop in game, if not goto orbit and swap out characters.

Instructions how to make Crota Kneel.

Everyone except the host should be ready with rockets (Gally or Hezen pref) and one person (to be safe) with an assault rifle (don't matter what, just a good enough clip size). Everyone fires rockets at Crota while the rifle person fires at Crota to keep shield going down between rocket reloads. Once Crota falls to his Knees the host will dissconect completely from the game.

The host before the onslaught will hit the guide button cn_guide, hit the start/menu button cn_start and move down to and hover on QUIT. When Crota is dropped to his knees the host should hit quit. This will mess up the server and trap Crota. So someone in the party needs to direct the host when to quit out.

Sorry lot s of writing, but it is fairly straight forward once you know what you are doing. Don't be afraid to practice sections of this raid as again this is incredibly faster than Vault of Glass.
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06 Jan 2015 18:03

Hello guys, here's our Flawless Raid played on Normal. Some tips you should know are displayed in the video, such as the correct and safe way to pass the Gorgon's Labyrinth and the Jump Puzzle.
We never used rockets except for Atheon's fight, just to be safe

For the final fight, versus Atheon, you should be prepared on some glitches. The most annoying are correlated to the Time Flux:
- If NOBODY gets teleported you should do nothing, shoot Atheon and wait for next teleportation
- If 1 player gets teleported he musts pick up the relic, avoid enemies, and suddenly get out before he succumbs to the oracles. This way nobody will die, but you will not get "Time's Vengeance" multiplier
- If 2 players get teleported they should destroy enemies/oracles and call for a third person to come inside and help them
- If 3 or more players get teleported they just do it normally.

When the time travellers completed their task, they should regroup themselves near the door which they entered before in order to get cleansed.
We NEVER went to the middle platform, because sometimes it could be glitched.
Our suggestion is to have the relic holder continously shooting at the supplicants, helped by another player with an heavy machine gun. The other four players will shoot at Atheon with Gjallarhorn or something similar.
Don't mind if you do not get the "Time's Vengeance" multiplier, keep shooting Atheon in order to avoid the Enrage Mode.

If you use rockets you should keep attention to Atheon's bullets, because they will make your rockets explode in your face.

If someone of your fireteam gets kicked to the orbit, he should NOT rejoin, otherwise it will be counted as DEATH. The remaining members of the fireteam could continue and unlock the achievements if they want.
We suggest you to create the fireteam and then, before starting, everybody should "appear offline": doing this, if somebody gets kicked, nobody will join your fireteam.

If you have any questions just comment below
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08 Dec 2014 10:37

We managed to do this first try and we are mostly average players so this isn't the hardest achievement to get - all it takes is a little patience and motivation. You'll want to limit the amount of players you take with you as this will heavily affect your rate of success - the less players the better. There were three of us (two Warlocks and a Hunter) and we chose to do it on Crota on normal difficulty as this is the easiest and quickest of all the raids.

Part One - The Pit
We all jumped down, leaving a little space as we didn't want to bounce off of each other upon landing. We all used Red Death as a primary, any weapon that had the Life Support as a secondary and machine guns in our heavy slot. For supers, we used anything that did area of effect damage so Stormtrance, Solar grenades with Sunbreakers etc. We moved as a team from lamp to lamp, making sure to cover any teammate that lagged behind and avoid all holes. We reached the end, activated the bridge and jumped on top of the rock near the lamp. We then prioritized the Ogre when it spawned then just moped up the remaining
Thrall. We then ran across the bridge to move on to the next section.

Part Two - The Bridge
We all ran down the stairs (you can survive just jumping but we didn't want to take any risks) - two people ran to the Totems while the remaining player ran to the bridge-building plate. We built the bridge, killed the Swordbearer and ran across the bridge (you may need to jump the last part of the bridge as it will deconstruct), killed the Gatekeeper and sat behind the lamp thing on the left side. The other two players then jumped on to the top of the giant tower on the right side before the bridge and then jumped to the very top to despawn all the enemies below. They then switched to Icebreaker (any high impact sniper will do but Icebreaker was used for the ammo regeneration) and sniped the Ogres across the bridge and when the section was complete, fell off, being careful to jump just before they landed.

Part Three - The Thrallway
We all then changed our heavy to a rocket launcher - you can use any with a good blast radius but we used Gjallerhorn just to be sure, changing our primary weapon to anything we felt comfortable with and that was good for killing mobs. We Gjallerhorned the Shriekers and mopped up any Thrall that got in the way, leaving the chest and jumped down below.

Part Four - Ir-Yut
We chose a side to start on first and all ran as a team - two players ran immediately to the tower while the other ran into the hallway to cause the wizard to come out. The wizard was Gjallerhorned as well as the Shrieker and the process was repeated for the other side. Then, all moving together, we ran into the hallway, spraying Gjallerhorn rockets at Ir-Yut, then quickly retreated into one of the towers. Then we switched back to Icebreaker to mop up the remaining enemies. Two players then re-equipped Gjallerhorn while the other re-equipped Red Death.

Part Five - Crota
We all stood on the middle plate and cleared the adds on both sides. Then the two players with Gjallerhorn ran to the middle ledge while the other ran to the middle for the Chalice and to kill the Swordbearer. The players on the ledge fired rockets at the Swordbearer while the middle player sprayed at the Thrall. Once dead, the sword was picked up by the middle player who ran to the small ledge to the right of Crota's platform. The other two players then shot two Gjallerhorn rockets at Crota which took him down - the player holding the sword did three slams before retreating. The process was then repeated and Crota was killed! If Crota doesn't die, just retreated to the room with the crystal and repeat the process.

Overall, this isn't too difficult. Although it can be frustrating at times, don't lose hope - just quit and try again another time. Being frustrated can cause silly mistakes which will ruin the run. Good luck Guardians!
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07 Jan 2017 22:34

A video solution only with 3 players!!



Enjoy!
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09 Mar 2015 02:33

FORGET ABOUT VAULT OF GLASS AND TRY TO DO THIS ON CROTA'S END. If you have the expansion pass, try to do this on Crota's End. Vault of glass is easier but it's much longer. It takes 80 minutes to complete Vault of glass and only 20 minutes to complete Crota. Crota is approximately 1.5 times harder than vault of glass but also 4 times shorter. Before you even think about attempting this achievement, make sure you have FULLY UPGRADED weapons and gear. For this you're going to have to be at least level 31 (I was a level 31 warlock). Make sure to have lots (10-50) ammo sins of each type . Make sure to have a good sniper and a good rocket launcher (I used Atheon's apologue, the black hammer and the dragon's breath). Do not kill yourselves with the rocket launchers, it is going to make you rage!
TALK!!! Communication is the key!

My tips:

For the abyss, stay together. If you split up the thralls are going to kill you. Make sure to move slowly, you're gonna fall into the holes if you're too quick.

For the bridge part: if you can't jump across the bridge of go on the roof, do this legit (I did it legit). Make sure to jump on the little platforms and snipe the swordbearer. After you cross the bridge, kill the gatekeeper and wait for the other players. Remember one thing: this part is very easy, it just takes a long time (5-10 minutes).

For the shreiker tunnel part: Slowly drop down. Then once you're in the tunnel, let the Titans pop a bubble (one by one) then hit the shreiker with your rocket launchers and Nova bombs and then immediately hide in the bubble. Once the 1st shreiker is dead, repeat this with the next one.

For the deathsinger part (the hardest one), let three people go to the left and three people go to the right. As soon as you enter the room, the timer will start, so make sure to do that quickly. Before going into the deathsinger's room, make sure to kill all the Knights and all the Wizards. Then enter the room from both sides (3 people from one side and three people from the other side). Use the strategy they I've mentioned before in order to kill the shreikers. Once both of them are dead, shoot your rockets on the deathsinger. The rockets are gonna kill it quickly. Keep in mind that you're running on a timer. So do this quickly!!!

For Crota, after you summon it, kill all the enemies, kill the swordbearer, make sure one of you picks up the sword and the chalice and then hide back into the room. Shoot your rockets at Crota and let she swordbearer take out as much health as possible from Crota. If Crota goes on the other side of the map or if ogres spawn, go in the room underneath the black crystal, kill the ogres and shoot some bullets on the swordbearer (do not kill him, leave him 5% of his life). After this Crota should come back at the point where he spawns. Then just kill the swordbearer let one of you grab the sword and then go back into the room with the crystal. shoot your rockets at Crota and let the swordbearer take out as much health as possible from Crota. 2-3 swords should be enough. After you kill him, watch your achievement pop and there you go, you've unlocked the hardest achievement in the game!!!
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11 Jun 2015 17:18

This achievement can be easily done by three level 32's with upgraded rockets pretty easily with the exploits shown in the video. The video is literally me getting carried through for the achievement this is the whole run no cuts!

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22 Apr 2015 05:19

Just some tips if you are new to Destiny and looking to attempt Flawless Raider

- Do Crota, it's far easier to flawless than VoG

- For the dark hallway (where weight of darkness affects you), send one person (who can solo it easily) as this will minimise the chance of a death.

- When you need to get over the bridge, if people can cheese this part, let them, as it'll reduce the amount of people getting shot at.

- Thrallway (where you get rushed by an infinite amount of thrall) - If a Titan is on the team (with a fully upgraded Defender class) , Blessings of Light will help out here, to help take damage from the Shreikers

It Yut (Deathsinger) - If there are Titans on the team, use Blessings if you have one, and Weapons and Blessings if you have two when you get into Ir Yut. Also, if people have the Sleeper Simulant, I would recommend that it is used as it'll kill pretty quickly.

Crota - Preferably have someone who is an experienced Swordbearer, if no one is experienced, Hunters are the easiest class to do it on.

Side notes

- If someone does die, go to orbit and start fresh, no checkpoints can help unfortunately.

- If a death occurs, you can use the time to try strategies before returning to orbit.

- If Titans have Helm of Saint-14, then that'll help out with the Defender Subclass (which they should be running)

- Warlocks shouldn't bother with Sunsinger, as Self-Rez will be useless (as you can't die), so I would recommend them using one of the other subclasses.

- Use a Hunter for Swordbearer if possible, as it'll reduce the risk of them dying if they have Bladedancer fully levelled up
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09 Nov 2015 20:41

Hello All this is my first post and more of a tip supply rather than a guide.
This guide is for Crotas End as I (and my group) had found this easier then VoG.

Tip 1: First you try and find a group of competent Destiny players, they should be level 32 but I don't see why a cautious group of 30's + (The sword bearer really should be 32 for extra damage resistance).

Tip 2: Weapons, Primary isn't too important use what you feel best with, I enjoy my fatebringer but I know the Vex Mythoclast is good. You will need a black hammer or Icebreaker (I used both as only one exotic is used at a time). You should have a Gjallahorn or Hunger of Crota as they have tracer and clusters. Ghorn is a priority for killing crota, two rockets from a fully upgraded one shall down crota on normal.

Tip 3: You should consider a small group as it lessens the probability of a death and a large fireteam is not necessary, we used four as it was rather easy for the group to split off in teams of two for Ir Ryut. It can be done solo if you are a great player and daring enough but an ideal number is three, one to sword bear and one rocket from each of the other two to down crota.

Tip 4: Descending into the darkness - once you form the bridge do not have your whole team descend as people may die whilst falling or from impact. If you have someone to solo it, hunter is able to do with ease or titan if they use rock jump at second lamp to de-spawn enemies and clear with ease. If you must run legit take time and always call out when you move, stick tight as a squad. When at the second bridge construction to clear the path have the party members jump on the various rocks to stay away from thralls and focus fire on the ogre, if your a titan pop a bubble and hide in it, timing is key pop it at the final moment to live, if hunter use invisibility to stay out of sight, you have three invisibility options, four with special gauntlets, use special and go invisible, knife a foe and go invisible and lastly crouch till invisible.

Tip 5: For this section have all except one player jump up on to the "de-spawn" tower through the 'glitch" spots. Have the remaining player kill the swordbearer and use the jump swing across the bridge (this shouldn't be spawned). If you dont understand search for "cheesing the bridge". Have the person who made it across crouch by one of the monoliths near the bridge so enemies forget about them. Now have the other use their snipers to pick off all enemies, you must kill the left and right ogres for all enemies to despawn and cause this stage to end.

Tip 6: The trallway, you need to take down two shriekers a maxed Ghorn only needs one shot on them, work as a team to cover the one with the rocket from thralls to take out the shriekers and run back either out to the last stage or into the big room and pop a bubble. If you have a hunter they can go invisible and run through the hallway without thrall detection, for second shrieker jump on once of the tombs to be out of the thralls reach.

Tip 7: For this split into two squads, go left and right, run through the room in a circle to draw out the wizard and take them both down. Then take down the shriekers within. Be cautious, stack up on the right side (left if you look from crotas P.O.V) wait for the liturgy to begin and rush in to finish off the final wizard. While waiting for the liturgy to begin kill some of the other trash in your way. Once the third is dead rush out and kill all knights and acolytes, don't kill the sword knights until nothing else spawns.

Tip 8: Run middle strat to be extra safe, keep your back off the wall so thralls don't claw you through it. Listen to your bearer as its their call, don't rush hits, just do three strikes and down twice per sword. Share the relic if needed to keep max health. Use the heavy ammo glitch if you feel you need to at the start.

Take breaks if you must, be patient. It will come.
P.S Please send me feedback or comment as i'd like to improve for my future solutions. Thanks for reading.
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20 Apr 2015 05:46

Crota's end is by far the easiest way to get this achievement. I three manned it with two of my friends and it took us three attempts. Just take your time and communicate. The bridge can be tricky to three man, get one guy across legit and the other two get above the map to despawn everything. The shrieker hallway can ruin a run so be careful in there. Ir yut and crota are a joke so once you get there just play it safe and you are home free. For double points make sure everybody is in your clan.
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22 Jun 2015 18:09

Edit: This may be out of date now, as he has retired from doing flawless runs.

First of all there are alot of great guides here, this isn't a guide per se...

There's a guy by the name of L0r3 who will Sherpa you through Crota in less than an hour with little to no stress.

He does runs on both Xbox One & PS4 - if anyone has a TrueTrophies account feel free to post this over there.

Join his Discord (https://discord.com/invite/YjMtpNu) introduce yourself and let it be known you're interested in doing this. He'll contact you to arrange a slot.

He does runs on Fridays and some Saturdays at 9pm Pacific Time. That might make your eyes water in some parts of the world but I promise you it's worth it.

This guy has so far done 119 flawless runs (10 so far this year) but numbers are dwindling. Don't put this off, head over there now. One of them was with me and it was easier than I could have imagined.

Light guide you, Guardians.
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13 Mar 2021 19:42

The easiest raid to get this is is Crota's End.
Preferable to have to skilled players run the first part of the raid, to minimise chance of random deaths, the other 4 wait to outside the raid.

When you get to the bridge encounter keep towo skilled players on the left and right plate, a lot of trash will attack them during the encounter, the coordinator is great to have in the middle. The first 3 that's going to go over the bridge wait at the stairs, by the door where the knight carrying the sword comes out. The coordinator calls out when the sword knight comes out and take turns going over with sword in hand. When 3 players have passed the bridge and stand on their plates a witch will spawn on the left side, be ready to avoid unnecessary deaths. The coordinator, preferably well geared kills the last knight with sword since its a bit harder when you're completely alone.

Third encounter, split up, start with knights on each side, then witch spawns inside the building, and thirdly shriekers. When the shriekers die those target seeking missiles fly out, back far out of the room to avoid insta death. Then kill Ir Yût. You have 3 minutes, but that's quite easy on normal and with a skilled team.

Last encounter is Crota, pretty straight forward. Less room for mistakes. Should be dead in two rounds of sword.
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01 Jan 2021 10:09

This achievement requires the completion of a raid without anyone dying at any point during the raid. This can be done on Normal difficulty, and it would be best if it you are over leveled and have already completed the raid before so everyone knows what to expect. The first clan to complete the game's first raid, Vault of Glass, died a combined 1600 times, and it took them over 11 hours to complete. However, they did not have all Lvl 28 players (two were only 26, in fact) so they were not exactly 100% prepared for this content. Since then, the raid has been completed by a two-man team in about an hour.

I'm sure at some point down the line, the game's level cap will increase as well, making this first raid released MUCH easier (unless they decide to scale it for some reason).

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And here's your platinum breaker. This won't happen naturally and you will have to try for it.

First, there are rules for this trophy:

 

  • You must complete the entire raid for this to count.
  • You cannot use a checkpoint at Atheon, Crota, Oryx, or Aksis.
  • Prison of Elders does not count for this.
  • No one can join your group once you begin (so set your fireteam to closed or invite only), but people can leave. This means you can have someone disconnect and it won't ruin things for everyone.
  • When someone dies, the entire raid must be restarted (select Restart from the director, not Resume).

There are groups that form in the Flawless Raider thread. This guide is based on how I got the trophy. Other people may have other ways. The full Crota's End walkthrough will have details on each part. This will only have tips and videos on what I consider the easiest and safest way to go flawless.

Recommended raid: Crota's End
Difficulty: Normal
Recommended players: 5-6 players

Part 1 - The Pit

This first part is where most of the mistakes can happen. Most of the fireteam does not need to drop down into the pit. They can stay back at the start where the first bridge is built. Hunters should be the ones to run this since they can go invisible.

Recommended subclass: Bladedancer
Recommended perks: Escape Artist, Shadowjack, Stalker
Recommended armor: Don't Touch Me or Khepri's Sting

Using the combination above, a Hunter can go invisible at will. The maze is fairly easy and if you're invisible, you can run past the Thralls and Knights. Don't Touch Me has the advantage of making you invisible after a melee attack against you. With Thralls and Knights, you will be invisible 90% of the time.

Part 2: The Bridge

As of the beginning of the Age of Triumph, things have changed. The old glitches are still there, but Bungie has changed this fight around. You now need at least five people to complete it. If you have a full fireteam, place two people on each of the three plates. One person on each will hold it, and then three will cross to the other side, one at a time.

Once those three are on the other side, they will hold the plates on their side until the others cross the bridge, one at a time. Once five are across, swords will spawn in. This is an easy part to mess and die, so if you're low on health, run away. Drop your sword and use supers or the sword super if needed.

After this, there is the Thrall-way. Killing the Shriekers one at a time is an easy way to avoid the death blast. Slowly kill Thralls and focus on Cursed Thralls.

Part 3: The Deathsinger

If you've made it this far, it's all downhill (assuming you have a Swordbearer). Sleeper Simulant shines in this area. They can one shot Shriekers while they are still closed and can two shot kill the Deathsinger. I go to the left tower first and then right, killing only the Shriekers and Wizards along the way. Once they're down, you can turn your attention to the Deathsinger. After she is dead, you have unlimited time to kill the rest of the Hive.

Part 4: Crota

There are multiple ways to do this and it all depends on how many people are in your group. The easiest way to do this is to have everyone ready with rocket launchers to fire at Crota with one person going for the sword. For the shooters, Gjallarhorn is the best option. Two blasts from Gjallarhorn is enough to drop Crota. Whenever Crota is sent to one knee, people will need to be watching the Oversoul to destroy it kills the whole group.

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