Dragon Age: Origins

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Menacing

Menacing

Succeeded at 10 difficult Intimidate attempts

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How to unlock the Menacing achievement in Dragon Age: Origins - Definitive Guide

Very easy exploit to obtain this:

After leaving Lothering for the first time, head to the Frostback Mountain Pass and enter Orzammar. Once inside, head to Dust Town and talk to Zerlinda to obtain the "Zerlinda's Woe" quest. Now, head back to the commons and go inside Tapster's Tavern. Talk to Ordel and respond in this order: "3. What kind of monster throws his child out on the street!", and then, "2. (Intimidate) If you don't take them back, that's murder.", then finally, "1. He's a baby, not a cur. And she loves him." Ordel will now leave the tavern. Exit the tavern, go back inside, and repeat the process with Ordel until you have both Bully and Menacing.

This was done with the Ultimate Edition, and with all of the updates installed, so there should be no problem.
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12 Jul 2012 23:11

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Perfect solution, thanks!
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By o NexusPlexus o on 17 Jan 2013 03:48
Thanks for this guide man works like a charm!
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By Clap That Fool on 11 Feb 2013 01:58
nice
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By Vi Heart on 20 Feb 2013 16:05
Damn wish I had read this before finishing that quest. Oh well if I can't get it I know what to do in a different play through!
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By LolliZombi on 03 Jun 2013 02:55
Still works as of oct 18th 2014 need coercion lvl 3 obtained at lvl 12 though
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By XenoPhoenix#9468 on 19 Oct 2014 03:12
You can also use this solution for the Silver Tongued achievement as well. Great solution .
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By MiloAll on 15 Jan 2015 23:07
Worked like a charm as I just unlocked the achievement using this method. I also wanted to add that any conversation option with (Cunning) listed counts for this as well as I unlocked Bully by selecting a (Cunning) option.
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By ScutumMagister on 16 Apr 2015 14:10
This is a great solution and also works for Persuasion! After your done with the Intimidating just pick options: 3, 1, 1 and exit and come back inside and he is still there!
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By Ueki420 on 30 Apr 2015 17:56
[After leaving Lothering for the first time]

At level 7-ish, my party was wiped on 10 seconds by the bounty Hunter party in front of Orgrimmar path. This is not "very easy" nor done right after Lothering. I will try again later but your instructions suck.
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By Aeneas137 on 23 Sep 2018 02:23
I'm looking forward to finishing this one off. I just got back from the Anvil of the Void. I'm on my second playthrough to get the other endings. Sounds promising.
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By CandidFever3 on 07 Jul 2021 03:06
Still works December 5, 2021
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By Vulker707 on 06 Dec 2021 02:33
Still works July 4, 2023
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By UraMallas on 05 Jul 2023 04:04
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For this you will need the skill Coercion. Skills are available to anyone, but I'm guessing a Rogue will have the easiest way for this as they will gather up skillpoints quicker; 1 every 2 levels opposed to 1 every 3 levels for Mages and Warriors. When intimidating, Strength will be the stat checked against, so be sure to have atleast some points invested. (16+ reccomended).

Use 5 or 10 succsessful intimidate options during conversations when available and Bully and Menacing will pop. It's also a good idea to save first as intimidating people have a negative effect on your companions more often than not.

You also have to succsessfully intimidate enough people during a single game, for both Bully and Menacing, and cannot reload a game to have it count more than once, or done with separate characters.

The "difficult" wording of the achievement doesn't seem to mean much. From what I could tell, the intimidate options in the origins stories did not count, but everything else seemed to.

Here's a quick list of people to intimidate:

- Farmer by the entrance, Lothering (press him on Loghain)
- Outside Merchant, Lothering
- Doomsayer outside the Chantry, Lothering
- Reverend Mother, Lothering (When you ask to have Sten released)
- Owen the blacksmith, Redcliffe (When entering)
- Dwyn the dwarf, Redcliffe (after breaking in)
- Dwyn #2, Redcliffe (getting him to fight)
- Bevin the little boy, Redcliffe (Revealing the secret)
- Bevin #2, Redcliffe (Getting the key)
- Lloyd the Tavernkeep, Redcliffe (get him out and fighting)
- Mother Hannah, Redcliffe Chantry (The holy symbols)

There are probably tons more - leave a comment and I'll add them to the list.

For a last tip, note how many there are in Redcliffe. Most of these have Persuade counterparts, so if you were to save before doing them all and reloading once you got Menacing, you are that much closer to the 25 Persuasions achievement.
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10 Nov 2009 08:20

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Hmm... seems the achievement might be a bit buggy then. I didn't get any intimidates during the origin (Circle of Magi), so it wasn't that. Finally got it, but I had a total of 15. Did all the ones you mentioned, and then some.
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By Taco Bob on 21 Dec 2009 18:31
Just to be clear on the issue of reloading, you say I can't reload to have it count more than once, but will it still count once if I reload to choose a different option to avoid the negative effect?
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By EclecticBoogalu on 20 Dec 2009 09:36
No, sorry...you have to stick with your choice until the achievement unlocks. After that you could reload and do things differently.
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By Ellusion no on 20 Dec 2009 14:37
It would seem that the word "difficult" does mean something, as of right now I have successfully completed 12 intimidations (the 10 you mentioned + 2 more) and still haven't gotten it.
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By Taco Bob on 21 Dec 2009 08:33
A few other places where you can Intimidate:
If you bring Sten with you to the town of Haven, you can choose to Intimidate him into getting back in line.
On both the quests that the Seargeant in Denerim gives you, you have an option to Intimidate the groups into leaving without a fight. I don't remember the names of the groups specifically, but one of them is in The Pearl and the other is in the Gnawed Noble Tavern.
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By guthrum06 on 16 Jan 2010 23:38
strength helps more then coercion (not sure how to spell)
i made my guy have a higher strength an my second profile it made it alot easier
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By finallife6 on 13 Sep 2010 22:45
@finallife6 - no it doesn't... each coercion point is equal to 25 in both strength and cunning for persuasion, and no persuasion needs greater than 100.

So if you have 25 strength, you only need 3 points in coercion - and one skill point is easier than putting 25 points into strength, especially if you're a mage.
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By jburridge88 on 19 Dec 2010 12:18
On the way into Lothering, some guys ask for 10 silver. Keep saying no and eventually you can intimidate them.
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By Barnsley Pal on 07 Mar 2011 22:03
When you go into town, you will get a quest to clear off the bandits who asked for 10 silver (see my post above). When you go back to them you can intimidate them again to leave for good.
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By Barnsley Pal on 08 Mar 2011 15:29
Berwick the elf (he's a spy) in the Tavern in Redclife.
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By Barnsley Pal on 10 Mar 2011 19:18
Carrol the templar who guards the boat to the mages' tower. Intimidate him into letting you across.
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By Barnsley Pal on 11 Mar 2011 09:06
My last one to add to the list: You can intimidate Shale to wake up when you find her in the Fade during the Broken Circle.
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By Barnsley Pal on 11 Mar 2011 15:23
Im guessing this will not unlock if attempted accross multiple playthroughs? As I have probably intimidated 7/8 people so far but im just starting the final battle so wont get it in this particular playthrough. Im going to make my next character a bit of a twat so i dont mind trying it again !
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By windofhorus616 on 18 Mar 2011 18:05
Definitely something buggy here...mine popped at 14 (12 from campaign, 2 from DLC).
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By One Eyed Tigh on 20 Aug 2011 22:48
I had a little trouble, but thanks to the guide and everyone's comments, I got it. did the 11 from the guide, the bandits at the start of Lothering, went to Denerim and intimidated the guy in the street and the two tavern missions from Sergeant Kylon and then went to Frostback Mountains up to the gate of Orzimaar and intimidated the Human guard trying to get in and finally... POP. I had 4 coercion and 21 strength FYI. So total of 16, hope this also helps someone.
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By Nick Kevlar on 31 Aug 2011 01:49
Did you include any from the origins stories Taco Bob? Those were the only ones I could pinpoint as not counting, but for the list above, those were the 10 I used and the achievement popped in Redcliffe on Mother Hannah (so I could reload Redcliffe and "undo" the last six).

Could be "Difficult" means something, but I have no clue what in that case.
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By Ellusion no on 21 Dec 2009 09:48
Some other places:When going to the mountain to enter Orzammar (forgot the name) there is someone trying to get in whom you can intimidate into returning to his "false king".
When at the Dalish camp there is a young hunter apprentice named Cammen whom you can intimidate after one or two dialogue trees.
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By Angel ManFreddy on 12 Feb 2010 19:54
I did about 16 intimidation attempts and was getting a little fed up with it when I read somewhere that people had been unlocking it on a persuation attempt right outside the proving so I went there and did the persuation attempt (on the guy to the left of the door) and POP, got it. Weird but might be useful for some people to try if your stuck.
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By l306l PoRkRoAsT on 07 Mar 2011 04:49
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See "Bully" for more details. This is the same idea, just 10 instead of five.

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See "Bully" for more details. This is the same idea, just 10 instead of five.

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See Bully for more details. It's the same idea, just 10 instead of five.

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In some dialogues you will come across an option to intimidate characters (Before such an option it will be written in parentheses (Intmidate / Intimidate)), select it. This option is a little less common in the game than the persuasion option, so try to choose it whenever possible. Its success is determined by the level of your Strength, as well as the presence of the “influence” skill, while the skill gives a greater chance of success than a high strength indicator, so it is very important to develop it to the maximum level.
I managed to get an achievement for Persuasion in one playthrough. The only thing that Intimidation chose virtually always when it was available.
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10 Jul 2011 12:22