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The Centaur Set

Maxed out each of the Anchor, Gunner, Pilot, Veteran, Brawler classes

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How to unlock the The Centaur Set achievement in Gears 5 - Definitive Guide

RemovedOrange5

TrueAchievements

18 Jul 2021 03:46

Alrighty y’all’s this is my first guide so bear with me. This achievement is grindy and I’m writing this at the end of operation 7 so it may get patched or something better may come along in the future. But for now I ran the clock on master in escape custom, just running past the enemies and returning to the lobby whenever you get drones in the first section. When running the clock I would reach the door and touch it, but not open it then restart the act. It is not worth it to open the door since you get the same amount of xp by just touching it. Here is a very informative video about the clock speedrun but it is still lacking some very important information.

During the clock speedrun your xp will become soft capped at around 20 minutes or so. I ran the clock for about 4 hours without going back to the lobby and only ended up with 40k cxp. I would recommend that you make your runs about 25 minutes then exit to lobby and get back in there. As for these stats I was running a double xp boost but I’m not sure if it also affects CXP. At 20 minutes I got 14,000 cxp. At 25 minutes I got 18,160 cxp. And at thirty I ended up at 20,179. These numbers may vary but I ran with the 25 minutes to be most optimal. As for how many runs, from character level 0 to 20 takes around 21 runs. All these numbers may vary and I did use an xp boost, but I’m not certain if it does effect cxp. I am certain that a double xp weekend does boost your cxp since I was getting 30-40k xp per run on my last character today. You can do this with a friend and I’m also not too sure if allies also improves your cxp gains. At first I was reluctant about quitting to lobby and starting again, but it is way worth it. I hope this guide helps and let me know if if there’s any tweaks I should make.
Ps. You can watch tv or listen to a podcast like Sword art online or facejam while doing this to make it go by faster
Happy grinding gears!

18 Jul 2021 03:46

24 Comments

My first attempt at this method got me 10k Class XP in about 20 minutes. Better than any other method I've tried.

By Haseo ATC on 26 Jul 2021 03:02

+1 just for mentioning FaceJam.

Thank you for the guide

By thepack1221 on 28 Jul 2021 19:48

Thanks for this guide.

Verifying this still works after Op 8 Drop 1 update

By Blckbird007 on 05 Aug 2021 05:07

There is a little faster method to run clock. Load up The Clock on Master. If you get don't get Rejects restart otherwise, run to safe room, open it enter, do not close the door, restart act, repeat 10 times then close the door on the 10th, run as far as you can in second act, when you die restart act then exit to lobby when in pod. easy 10k in ~10mins. works for all characters except jack

By Voracity N on 05 Aug 2021 16:54

@voracity @scmark15

Love it, optimize the grind to the penny. Thanks for the tweaks!

By Blckbird007 on 07 Aug 2021 15:21

@voracity @scmark15

Are you sure the rate you are seeing is not just a consequence of the xp event?

By Blckbird007 on 07 Aug 2021 15:47

@Blckbird007...no I was doing this pre-event for 10k-11k. During the event I've been getting ~25k - 27k every 10mins (15ish with load times). Also do this solo, if that wasn't obvious....waiting for a friend to restart at saferoom isn't optimal. If I die I don't count that run...once I reach the door and only once I reach that door 10 times to I continue to act 2.

Highly recommend being in a party and talking to friends to help with the monotony of it all

By scmark15 on 07 Aug 2021 19:31

@scmark15 Thanks, repeated same results as you.

Another squeeze the time tip: play on Xbox cloud, load time is < 20seconds, and restart time is about 4 seconds

By Blckbird007 on 07 Aug 2021 20:22

Um, stealth patch? I ran The Clock 21 times last night, only twice did I get rejects/juvies. And one of those two times, there was an Elite waiting for me at the bottom of the ice ramp. Wouldn't be surprised if TC updated rng to make this method much less available. Also ran it again 8 times this morning, only once got rejects/juvies, and once again it had an Elite waiting for me at the bottom of the ice ramp

Update 8/19: Ran The Clock a bit more, got rejects/juvies a bit more often than not, so perhaps the rng was just really unlucky for me two nights ago

By jasonlc3221 on 18 Aug 2021 14:30

Do this with more people. We are doing the Clock, running to the first safehouse and restarting. We take turns. I host and run for an hour (not in a single match FYI) and then he hosts and runs. This gives us some free time to relax with this tedious grind and still get CXP.

Just did 2 test runs. First, running to the safehouse and not opening it, restarting once I hit the blast doors. Second, running to the safehouse, opening doors, restarting inside and on the 10th run running as far as I could before dying and qutting. 1st, 35k CXP, 2nd, 38k CXP with boost, 20 mins each run. So without the boost, there's almost no difference at all with the base values.

By Darth Hawk CZ on 08 Sep 2021 18:57

@Darth I assume you are doing this during the 5x cup event? Seems based on comments earlier, we should be seeing more you know?

If normal 10min is 10k cxp, then 5x should be netting 60k total. But, really I am getting closer to you on 20min runs…

By Blckbird007 on 10 Sep 2021 13:53

all 5 classes are 20 level. but stuck 97%. please fix it .

By TeenSl4yer on 28 Sep 2021 04:28

Same here, stuck at 99%

By vzr326 on 31 Oct 2021 23:00

Mine unlocked today, after being stuck at 99% for months.

I was playing an Escape map (Master) as Anchor and it popped at the end. This is despite my class being at 20.

Therefore, I think some background stats are a bit off. I had previously thought this and went well over level 20 for each class to make sure. It must have just needed that little extra. I do remember increasing cards prior to the game too so may be this helped?

I would recommend doing a few more maps with each character over again.

By Ironed Goat on 16 Dec 2021 09:01

Someone else had 97%? Today I leveled the last Tank classes (Pilot and Veteran) from lvl 19 to 20 and the tracker is stuck at 97%

I leveled up in one sitting and playing on PC (Gears from MS store)

By Piyi Piyi on 26 Dec 2021 20:27

Still works as of 1/22/2022
Awesome guide. Maybe less repetitiveness in your video but thanks for the help.
Upvote

By Martini4Trump on 22 Jan 2022 06:50

Hey, there is an official collecting data survey for anyone who has problems with this (or similar) achievements:

https://forums.gearsofwar.com/t/achievement-tracking-progres...

By Piyi Piyi on 29 Jan 2022 07:47

Congrats to the coalition!

By Guizimx on 28 Feb 2022 18:34

Anyone else not getting any xp at all? Just did this for 30 mins and no xp

By Magthrower12 on 30 Jun 2022 01:01

Yeah, I rarely got CXP from this.

By Quadrisecant on 30 Jun 2022 15:26

This is the most up to date solution? It seems everything boils down to running up to a door and doing stuff over and over again, to get the most xp over distance ran.

By AscendantJay on 23 Aug 2022 20:45

Found this way faster than the surge runs. I was half way through level 18 on my last person and with the boost from the xp weekend it took about two hours to finish and that was breaking up the runs into 25 minute parts

By Salvatore 2 on 19 Jul 2021 15:02

@Voracity N looking at your post I got deja vu, could've sworn I wrote that somewhere word for word. After checking your profile I realized where. Avoids LOL!

And yes ~10K in 10mins not including load times. Just a slight change, when you die in the second act restart act then once you respawn in the saferoom restart act once more and as screen fades black return to lobby. This will give a very small boost to XP as well as CXP but over time this adds up.

By scmark15 on 05 Aug 2021 17:46

It still works, with the 3x xp boost you can get around 14000 cxp per 10 runs.

By Sigma Dutch on 15 Dec 2023 20:59

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TheAaronLad

TrueAchievements

24 Nov 2020 17:10

Before I say anything further these numbers are assuming you have boost, you kinda need boost to grind this as it gives you x2 CXP (character XP)

With the the latest patch on the the 15th of December 2020, Iron Man has been changed to restart the hive and doesn't kick you out to the lobby, so any first room method you use can be ran on master now. it also appears that the weird CXP numbers for the clock has been fixed for me at least after testing it on incon and master. I ran through it for extra marksman cards earlier and got the usual amounts for CXP. so that was a bug affecting some people.

I will also note that it's recommended to run the daily featured hive or horde map if it offers XP on incon, or even just beginner for 1k XP (this is now possibly 2.5k XP instead and it's more CXP focused, it's too early to tell right now) and weekly featured hive on incon under gold time for the XP rewards then grind, ~~the reason being they offer higher XP than what they actually show.~~ this has been patched/fixed, it just gives what the displayed XP is now.

Level 20 is the max level per class, it takes 180,000 CXP from level 18 to level 20.

So, there's a couple of ways you can go about grinding this. The method I suggest requires at least 1 other player, which you could host a lobby in the browser and probably get someone to help out like I did in the footage below (also please note I wasn't using a flashbang in the footage instead I used a shock as I was running pilot I wanted the extra stim as the randoms I got weren't running the best set ups), but these following 2 methods can be done solo, the clock first room master is completely solo surge insane and clock incon act 2 is best done with other people but can be done solo with the right class.

1. You could grind through the surge on INSANE (2nd act dying and repeat and escape, scions and iron man turned off) or the clock on MASTER (read above with the iron man changes) to the first safe room door, open the door then die.

With the latest change to Iron Man, this is the best for weaker classes such as Veteran (no real damage resistance) and a completely solo method this is your method. The CXP seems to be have been fixed for me and I assume for everyone else having the same issue, as of the latest patch (TC has not mentioned it but I'm now getting about 18.6k solo every 30 minutes using this with score boost cards on, completely solo and with boost on top of that.)

2. You can load up the clock on incon run through the safe room, to act 2, then run, preferably to the big doors, pull the lever then run back in and die, in 30 minutes of doing this I got 13,800 CXP.
*This method requires rejects in the second part of this after the doors open. so it's RNG.

Now, we have the method I suggest, it requires 2 players minimum (you and a friend or random) to get to it and for you to keep at least 1 flashbang, the reason being there's 2 elite drones with claws and a few embar snipers at the start of this outside the safe room, flashing them makes life easier.
Simply put do the first 2 acts of the descent on master, get to act 3, then run to the big door, pull the lever then run back in and die. I got 18,000+ CXP in 30 minutes of running this. You can get 22k CXP every 30 minutes if you run this with 3 people with both the purple and green score boost cards on and completing it.

The time it'll take to max out characters will depend on your current level, I'll say this as a rough guess assuming you've got all 5 at level 16, with 0 XP, it'd take about 7 and a half hours of doing The Descent on master to fully max out, if you're at 18 it'll take 5 hours. 16 > 18 is the same as 19 > 20.

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24 Nov 2020 17:10

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@WarXEagle2015 yeah I'd reckon that too but funny thing is, I don't care about down votes when ultimately I posted the guide to help people out with this, you know not keeping it a secret.. but the score boost thing ultimately means it'll be patched/disabled within a week, race against the clock of TC now, curiously did you find it doing the latest featured weekly when it gave about 200k opposed to the 160-180k? I know I only told 6 people about it, that's where me and 2 guys figured it out.

also to be fair I still have figured out the most effective way to get CXP so it's not like I'm full of shit but go off I guess

@Serious X Devil, indeed they do. they also stack upon each other and people running them, I've got noticeably less XP with only 2 of us running it. the surge insane can give 18-20k in 30 mins with 3 people running them. level dependent

ALSO tomorrow's hive is the gauntlet for gold time, this glitch would have came out tomorrow no doubt as you'd need the cards for the gold time requirements. if I had to guess you'd get 200k-210k from 3 people running the cards (got 200k with just 2 as I was cole with the gnasher out exploit)

By TheAaronLad on 30 Nov 2020 22:15

I had only figured the score boost thing out on the 28th I believe and there seems to be more to it. I was honestly waiting until I could play around with it more and hopefully figure out a like massive CXP for time spent, I had assumed it would become well known by the time I figured it out more, I was going to "abuse it" in horde, which may be better my idea is district 41-50 on master with 5 people running score boosts might give a load of XP. I've not been able to figure a time out for everyone I know to do that, it's worth a shot if anyone here wants to go test it.

it's also TC we're talking about here. they patched the death from beyond ribbon method Lail had figured out within 4 hours was it? back last year. we can't have nice things. better to have a perfected method than a relatively new method that just gives a boost of 4k XP at this time.

Eagle did you even read my latest comment? the clock is literally broken for me, which is why I even said that in the first place and looked for alternatives, also where the hell am I trying to take credit for anything? I tested 3 methods figured out the best in my opinion. god knows who figured out this tile stuff. I also need to figure out why it's only giving me a max of 17,224 XP which would equate to 30 minutes not a full hour, I mean yeah I could do 2 x 30 min runs but I have to hope for reject/juvie RNG and running an hour straight hasn't been an issue in the past. there may be a 30 minute cap on xp?

flashing the drones make the end of the descent trivial. if I can help a PVP player who's not even touched escape/horde go from level 1-20 using it then I assume anyone with any experience could do the same.

By TheAaronLad on 01 Dec 2020 19:57

max now is L20 not 18

By ENTITY2011 on 24 Nov 2020 18:27

yeah I'm well aware, I never said it was 18 max anywhere in the guide. so I have to ask, your point is?

By TheAaronLad on 24 Nov 2020 18:32

+1 from me. Nice to see someone offer up a solution that's way more time effective than just doing Surge or Clock runs and saving people from having to buy more iron/boost than they need to.

Would definitely be down to abuse this if anyone wants to. Way better than running The Surge over and over all day

By ninjaraiden2003 on 24 Nov 2020 22:31

So how do you find the 3rd method so difficult to do consistently if you don’t mind me asking? So if I die inside after pulling the lever on descent and return to lobby after dying, I will get 18,000 CXP in how many times of doing it? 2 runs in 30 mins I’m guessing?

By SCOTTLAND1986 on 24 Nov 2020 23:18

How much XP are you getting for every run to the door?

By Pharcyde on 24 Nov 2020 23:19

@scotland I don't find it difficult to do that at all, I'm not sure how many runs it exactly is to get 18k it's about a minute a run or so with load times. I would just run 30 minutes of it over and over again and then finish the hive and get my CXP.

By TheAaronLad on 24 Nov 2020 23:27

Keen to try this. Hmu if you wanna run it.

By Law Violation on 25 Nov 2020 00:00

So wait, you get to the lever, pull it, die and then repeat from that same checkpoint? You don’t return to lobby after you die?

By SCOTTLAND1986 on 25 Nov 2020 01:16

yeah restart checkpoint after you die, I show that in the video.

By TheAaronLad on 25 Nov 2020 01:38

Clock has not been patched!

By on 25 Nov 2020 04:40

first room running method gives 20k in 2 hours of running it non stop on incon so ???

By TheAaronLad on 25 Nov 2020 04:52

@TheAaronLad I think there's a limit to how long you can do it before you need to return to lobby and restart. Assuming by non stop you never returned to lobby? Have you done the descent method for an extended amount of time and still got the correct amount of xp?

By The Allslayer on 25 Nov 2020 08:34

Yeah that's a good point Allslayer, they tend to have XP caps so it'd be interesting to know whether there's one here.

By Law Violation on 25 Nov 2020 10:53

I experienced the same frame rate drop when returning to the reward screen and an odd issue where the sound of the door closing was playing upon arriving at the door. I think i did it for about an hour or so and got 8K without boost. I'll need to try again and actually time it properly.

By Law Violation on 25 Nov 2020 21:22

With the correct spawn I get 32,000 per hr on The Clock not 20,000! That’s 832 each run to the door , usually takes 1 min to run.

By on 27 Nov 2020 07:07

first room? I ran it for 2 full hours post update with boost, I got 20k. 2 runs of descent gets me far more in 1 hour. with restarts and repeatedly dying. whatever way you cut it, unless you're full of it, descent master act 3 is still better. you're literally the only person who has said the clock still works... and believe me I've tested about 15 methods.

straight up you're full of it and I don't get why you're going on and on how it's not patched or if it's better... you're starting to annoy me man. for starters it's not better and many many tests have confirmed it's not the same XP as it gave before and I leveled all (post escape change and operation characters) my characters to 15 with it lmao, just quit it. denial isn't your strong suit.

By TheAaronLad on 27 Nov 2020 07:43

also here's a good idea before you pull a completely BS card, test the solution, I love the fact down voters get notified of edits, the timing of your comment was amazing. seriously quit it.

By TheAaronLad on 27 Nov 2020 08:11

What are you going on about? The guy is just confirming that the clock has not been patched as you said. And it hasn’t. I’m still getting the same Xp as I was before Op5.

He never said your method wasn’t better. He was correcting your false information.

Here’s another down vote.

By TBS Nikolai on 27 Nov 2020 12:22

straight up you're full of it and I don't get why you're going on and on how it's patched or if it's not better... you're starting to annoy me man. for starters it's better and many many tests have confirmed it's the same XP as it gave before and I leveled all (post escape change and operation characters) my characters to 18 with it lmao, just quit it. denial isn't your strong suit.

By TBS Nikolai on 27 Nov 2020 12:27

Sooooooooooooo can we narrow it down and make it one method? I’m just reading a bunch of gibberish.

By on 27 Nov 2020 21:47

Arron , I did this with two other people and CONSISTANTLY DID 33,000 AN HR! You aren’t the gears god so stop it, I’ve finished this game twice in the top 30 ! I think I know what the hell im talking about !

By on 29 Nov 2020 19:35

like I said I've ran this with multiple people and tested it for about 5 hours and never got anywhere near those numbers. I also said leading me to believe it's been patched.

By TheAaronLad on 29 Nov 2020 19:47

And I’m telling you this is the way ne and my team did it!We ran stop clocks and tracked everything , you are wrong , If you get the reject spawns and you run to the door, activate the door and die it works .

By on 29 Nov 2020 20:34

ah well I'm getting 44k an hour with my method lmao

By TheAaronLad on 29 Nov 2020 20:38

By on 29 Nov 2020 21:25

18k in 30 min. would be 36k in 1 hour. Where is the extra 8k coming from if you now say you are getting 44k an hour, Aaron?

By SSJ4Angelus on 30 Nov 2020 01:23

I'm well aware of the math of 18k in 30 minutes, you can bump it up to 22k as there's a "secret" method :) well I say secret, it's probably a bug.

By TheAaronLad on 30 Nov 2020 01:39

By on 30 Nov 2020 02:19

There’s a lot of hostility in this comment section. Are you all essentially talking about the same method on two different hives?

Am I right in thinking that I could run to the end of any hive and die over and over, as long as Ironman is not enabled, and continue to gain CXP? Of course, I realise there’s a debate here about whether The Clock or The Descent is the better choice.

By Tom Live v7 on 30 Nov 2020 09:20

to answer you: yes, you gain CXP assuming you run the required route for the most tiles. I've seen some discussion over whether or not you can press restart act to "bank it" saving seconds, I tested this and it seems to work. I run back in to die due to the CXP tile theory and general OCD. you have to actually return to lobby or better yet escape the hive to keep your XP.

after 30 minutes or going as long as the game remains stable (use the door noise as an indicator or pouncer behaviour. as their AI is umm well a shitshow. I call it doing a "palpatine" with this random 360 mid air spin landing flat on their face, that's usually where I'm like yeah 2/3 more runs we'll finish as you'll spend about 2 and a half minutes on the rewards screen) ESCAPE the hive, doing so will award you bonus XP and really takes no skill at all. or you can just return to the lobby like I said.

the surge act 2 on insane (no scions or iron man) and the descent act 3 on master are all laughably easy to escape. the clock first act thing obviously works and admittedly I've been humbled, I still fully believe something is or was up with it. my hostility about it is I tested it for 5 hours straight and ultimately I came to that conclusion, needless to say I'm pissed when I'm told I'm wrong when I have numbers wrote down like a mad man. I didn't pull it out my ass.

"opinion time": act 2 or 3 has a lot less load time, the doors take less time than the escape pod animation saved time which adds up as you'll run 30+ times = more runs = more CXP.

also the added bonus of breaking the game will make some spawns simply not trigger and pouncers will slow walk toward you. this is notable with the surge act 2 on insane and the descent act 3 on master. the clock doesn't do this. the reject and juvie shit show will spawn regardless, I would not bother escaping it as it's tough without using a silverback or train ability.

By TheAaronLad on 30 Nov 2020 11:53

Thanks Aaron. I’ve witnessed the weirdness of Escape after being in a hive too long so I’ll look out for that.

I’ve also noticed that in Op 5 I don’t receive as much CXP in both Horde and Escape. I’d guess payouts have been reduced even if they aren’t that significant.

By Tom Live v7 on 30 Nov 2020 15:42

wait... you're right
I get nowhere near from a full master frenzy now.

By TheAaronLad on 30 Nov 2020 15:58

Also equip score boost cards! They tend to boost the amount of cxp

By on 30 Nov 2020 21:49

so the cat's out of the bag.. ah well that's how to get 22k, run all 3 of you with both purple and green score boost cards.

By TheAaronLad on 30 Nov 2020 21:53

And Aaron , all the down votes would say you’re full of shit😂😂😂😂😂

By on 30 Nov 2020 21:58

Very nice, I will try it out tomorrow on The Gauntlet for sure.

By Serious X Devil on 30 Nov 2020 23:16

Why would you need score cards for gold time on Gauntlet? They haven't been anywhere close to needing score cards so far. A Master run doing nothing special for time has been enough to beat the two so far by well over 20 minutes.

By The Allslayer on 01 Dec 2020 01:00

wait, did they change the mods on gauntlet? I remember doing it on master and regen making each encounter take forever, I guess it's just my PTSD of doing it early on since I haven't even loaded it since.

the latest one we got close three times when we ran it and put the cards on to get -20, then we found out about the score boost applying to CXP exploit/bug. also I should note I've done them on incon so far, maybe that's why?

By TheAaronLad on 01 Dec 2020 01:19

it affects any difficulty, most beneficial on insane+ it does work solo, it may depend on boost too. the intricacies I've not figured out about it, yet. I run purple and green and it works 2 and 5 respectively currently on my gunner class.

By TheAaronLad on 01 Dec 2020 03:21

long story short with this comment I need some help here, the clock seems to be broken for me individually, I'm not sure why. long story to follow.

Slayer Reigning and Ace Annihilates had ran the clock (first act) before I got on gears to run descent, they got 19k. so I'm actually convinced it's either broken on me or caps at 17,224 (solo) and I was wrong with saying 20k. I had gotten back from a smoke after we finished running the descent. Slayer had gone AFK and we were speaking on messenger while I smoked to see if we wanted to run again basically, they were done for the night.

so. I was hoping to finish gunner off after but, I got 17,224 XP in 1 full hour of running it with ACTUAL EVIDENCE I had recorded a clip to see what I was at before I loaded in because I forgot to check, Ace can back this up he heard me say "fuck I forgot to check my XP I'll record a clip", the clip luckily shows the cards I'm running (level 2 purple score boost level 5 green score boost, usual for me) ran for a full hour have the messages with slayer through facebook after I found out and post hive results etc all ready to show if needed to support it. even with the score boost cards. I already know it gives more than that in 1 hour of running it. I was at 28,028 (video evidence of this and me loading in to the clock to rejects) I ended at 45,252.

ALSO EAGLE, before you interject with your comments, hear me out, you already know why I was annoyed at you, it's because I was speaking from numerous hours of testing myself, I already sent proof to JJ about this current stuff in anticipation so ask him about it, it's either bugged for me or it's got a cap. I'm not saying either of us are right just proving a further finding with it, to call back to "And Aaron , all the down votes would say you’re full of shit😂😂😂😂😂" no mate, I'm genuinely not. I'm speaking from what I have experienced first hand and have evidence of, with proof sent to JJ, aka our mutual friend. nothing else needed to be said.

and like I said I have full evidence of this and Slayer can back me up as the second I finished I messaged him this word for word "17K IN AN HOUR???" and "I GRINDED FOR A FULL HOUR FOR 17K" copy pastes of my messages sent to him. like I said Ace can back me up with me forgetting to check and recording the 2 minute clip because we were talking about the day we'll do the gauntlet weekly. I'm really not sure what's going on here at all, Tom mentioned earlier XP seems weird for him, SSJ4Angelus mentioned score boost not working solo for him. something is definitely up here, I know for a fact I should have gotten more XP than that in 1 hour of running it.

edit: here's 2 screenshots to actually show I'm being truthful here

https://gyazo.com/e9a604ec058b26d16aa0e39e210fc4a2

https://gyazo.com/6d2b7c7bca8396f6e47256cd38bd72cb

By TheAaronLad on 01 Dec 2020 07:29

Aaron you’re just a bully! You have consistently attacked other gamers for their solutions and tried to take credit for yours. Me and my team consistently got 33k to 35 k doing the inconceivable Clock method ! Everyone in my team has the achievement and got it done in hrs not days! Some people aren’t event skilled enough to run Master Escape let alone survive past the drones in the last section . I’m not saying your method isn’t effective I’m just saying the way we did it is not patched and your way isn’t the only effective way to do this!

By on 01 Dec 2020 16:19

It’s funny how you state that you wrote this guide to help people, yet you never let out what the secret to getting 22k over 18k was until someone else posted that score boost cards give CXP. Then of course you say “the cat is out of the bag.” So you weren’t just looking to help people or you would have mentioned that in your original post.

By TBS Nikolai on 01 Dec 2020 18:21

Don’t care all the bs going back and forth. Thanks Aaron for putting in the work to help.

By PRmykey327 on 02 Dec 2020 04:30

appreciate it man

By TheAaronLad on 02 Dec 2020 04:44

Any chance of posting videos for the clock methods and is there a straight forward method for getting to act 3 of the descent with weaker characters? Maybe a video of the whole thing?

By Yurgi Windu on 02 Dec 2020 09:10

After running Clock inconceivable for 30 min. after the safe room(significant lag after the helo picks me up and during the results screen), I got just under 8k. No score cards so I could finish the map. I then did Clock inconceivable with a lvl 4 & lvl 6 score cards on, just running to the safe room for 30 min. and got 8,600 so I think I'm in the same boat as Aaron with that map. Based on Eagle, I should be getting 15k+ since I don't have boost. I'm running solo in these runs and I highly doubt multiple people is giving 2x cxp. From these runs score cards also appear to be negligible. Something is going on.

By SSJ4Angelus on 03 Dec 2020 00:47

I knew I wasn't alone with whatever wonky donkey business is going on, I suspect it's something to do with the operation 5 patch being busted for some people.

By TheAaronLad on 03 Dec 2020 01:05

The way it worked for us is there were 3 people in our lobby, 2 idled and one person ran, the spawn that worked best was the rejects at the beginning and the two rejects at the second part of the map right before the stretch to the safe room. I went to the door ACTIVATED THE DOOR , then died.(rinse repeat.) EPIC SCORE CARDS raised the amount of cxp we were getting and the reason we ran three people is so one person would run while two people idled and took shifts.

By on 03 Dec 2020 15:33

I could agree with Aaron, there are certain maps that don’t give me much of anything either, The Surge for example on my end only gives me 1500 for a completion of the map , so best advice is to use all strategies and figure out a game plan that best works .

By on 03 Dec 2020 15:43

Since I get virtually no difference from going to the safe room doors and the lever in the 2nd act, I'm just resetting until I get juvies and rejects, then run to the safe room doors, open them, go inside, then die. Rinse and repeat for 30 min. After 30 min. of that, I pick up the cog tags if there are any and go to the safe room to get the card, then I run as far as I can go when the doors open, die then exit to the lobby. I get between 8.5 and 9k everytime.

By SSJ4Angelus on 03 Dec 2020 22:41

@SSJ4Angelus,
so basically it's better to complete Surge speedruns.
5/6 runs in 30 minutes = 9000 cXP = 20 skill cards as well.

With boost that is.

By EI Bikerboy on 04 Dec 2020 10:21

that's without boost right?

By TheAaronLad on 04 Dec 2020 10:59

I mix surge insane with descent act 3, just to switch it up

By TheAaronLad on 04 Dec 2020 16:53

I have some slight numbers which are nearly flipped with eagle's. surge on insane escaping gives me 2.2k, the clock on master gives me about 2,48X (last number is 2-7) and let me say.. that's on MASTER. the surge on incon gives me 2.9k. so I'm sat here with the biggest confused face of my life. with score boosts of course and boost.

I'm not sure, hives and horde is simply buster for people. I suspect it's tied to consoles. Slayer and Ace get about 1.5k/2k more XP than me on the clock/the surge. but I get more XP on the descent than them. they're on the series X, possibly tied to the OP5 patch being different or the frame changes? this is complete speculation and it's the only possible thing that seems remotely likely to me.

By TheAaronLad on 05 Dec 2020 01:03

A good way to rank up the class its on the classic the surge speedrun with that you get 2k of class xp per run you can run it solo by playing on advanced with more drones more health and more Filler enemies with that you get per run 1.5k of class xp its not the best 1 but it can Help great if you want to do it solo

By DX HeadHunter on 07 Dec 2020 19:04

Pretty sure ally XP is now being calculated into CXP in Escape, which helps explain some of the inconsistent calculations.

Insane Surge runs give 875 CXP as a base. With Boost, its 2x for 1750. This is a for sure, no questions asked, number that I've known for a long time of running Insane Surge Speed Runs.

However, recently, if I have any of my friends run with me, I'm getting Ally XP added in. But note, the Ally XP is multiplied off the BASE XP, not the Boost XP.

So, if you have a 10% Ally running with you and you have Boost, you should get (875 * 2) + (875 * 10%) = 1837.5, which will be rounded up to 1836.

By Resident eLail on 09 Dec 2020 18:50

1 question. Can I pull the lever, than press start and ,,restart act" I'll do it solo with 3 Controllers and one thing pissed me off. Wait to bleeding out slowly. Well, can I restart the act when i goes down, anywhere on the map? (With the same amount of cxp of course.)

By xxHAWKBITxx on 12 Dec 2020 00:17

yeah you can restart act and it works the same (as far as I could tell) why are you using 3 controllers?

By TheAaronLad on 12 Dec 2020 00:33

Restart act is it 1800 each time?

By Syl3nt on 14 Dec 2020 23:39

1800? what? each run is about 600-785 CXP maybe more it's 18,000 after 30 minutes, 20k with 2 people running score boosts, 22k if 3 people are.

By TheAaronLad on 15 Dec 2020 07:54

The surge method u are supposed to hit the door then die, then escape the second time? Or just keep dying?

By I ailurophile I on 22 Dec 2020 16:28

you just keep dying, it's up to you if you do first act or 2nd act. you hit the door with both versions, escape the hive after 30 odd minutes

By TheAaronLad on 22 Dec 2020 17:21

Currently with 4x event and jingle juvies and icebound spawn glitch u can get roughly 43k cxp in 1 hour on inconceivable jingle juvies.

By Sighris on 24 Dec 2020 01:37

you can also get 80-95k solo an hour from escape, from what I've found so far.

By TheAaronLad on 24 Dec 2020 02:08

Currently Clock to the door on master is 2k every 30ish seconds just look for Juvies + Rejects on the first bit and you can keep running to the door and die from the juvies/rejects chasing you give or take this will cut the total time so much down I assume you could get all classes in a single day

Although this barely gives Account XP

By on 24 Dec 2020 12:27

The Clock first part is 1:45 each time (have to start from the cutscene) on XSX. If Rejects and Juvies are waiting for you, you can go on and repeat, otherwise exit to lobby and load it again.

By skydogcom on 02 Jan 2021 09:39

The Clock on master, running to the first saferoom (you don't have to run inside, nor open it, just stop in front of the blast doors) and then restarting act, gives you with 4x CXP about 40k every 30mins.
What is interesting though: Every party member gets the same amount of CXP. So we made a party of 3, taking turns in hosting and being the runner. 2 hang back at spawn, AFK.
This, by far, beats your Descent method. You need 2 people for that and even if you get more XP from the Descent method (which was disputed left and right, but suppose you are right), you can take turns with 2 people doing other methods which are maybe less CXP giving, but you can be AFK for half the time. Which means, the CXP gain per ,,active" playing is far superior.
We just took turns after 2 runs, so with loading times and loading the right spawn, I had about 3hrs of freetime (and free 160k+ XP), when I could play something else on my X1 with Gears being run on my PC.

By Darth Hawk CZ on 02 Jan 2021 15:20

^^^ This is the way.

Best part about it is that you dont even need to reload the lobby or have loading screens.

All you do is hit the vault door, walk inside, and host resets checkpoint.... no need to back out all the way.

By Markyshizzle on 04 Jan 2021 13:43

We didn't even have to go inside or open it. We did two runs, once with opening and going inside, other with just running into the closed blast doors and we got approximately the same amount of CXP. Anyone have different stats, getting more for actually opening/entering?

By Darth Hawk CZ on 04 Jan 2021 16:57

You don't get overall exp from Clock method, right? I'm still working on prestige 16 after the bump, so would need both. Only getting about 5K CXP/Surge run with the boost, so tempted to try a quicker method.

By Cortanarama on 13 Feb 2021 05:38

overall XP on the clock with character XP in mind is very minimal. to my knowledge the best way would be horde overload speedruns to get both, but that's 30 minutes if you get the right group for far less beneficial XP.

By TheAaronLad on 13 Feb 2021 05:45

Great guide Aaron and very helpful. Upvoted. Minor constructive criticism. Mention at the beginning that level 20 is max character level so people with lower reading comprehension like @ENTITY2011 won’t be confused. I would also remove saying boost is “needed”.... of course it will help but the strategy stays the same regardless. I’d just recommend it and mention that your calculations are done assuming you have boost. Anyway thanks for your post!

By Nand on 24 Nov 2020 22:20

I always quit out after 30-45 minutes, the reason being the doors will get louder and louder and it gets extremely buggy and potentially crashes. for example I ran it last night with 2 guys on the series X and they got insane frame drops and were delayed returning to the results screen. I say 30 minutes to be safe it actually counts and there probably is a cap somewhere.

we'd set it up > set a timer for 30-35 minutes > finish the hive > deal with lag and frame drops for about 2 minutes. oh yeah I should mention it's very very easy to finish the hive if someone runs inside to bait enemies that way you only really have to deal with 1 pouncer at the end. been a thing for ages I used to master a few maps send the weakest in and finish it.

By TheAaronLad on 25 Nov 2020 19:44

I'd highly suggest doing the daily featured hive/horde on incon for the XP rewards if they're offered (they give 10x what they should currently) then doing descent act 3 and following my video, running over and over for 30 minutes then completing the hive for the completion XP bonus you get 18k if you quit out to the lobby but you can get 20k if you complete it. to finish your class off.

By TheAaronLad on 27 Nov 2020 21:56

Can confirm did the Clock on inconceivable with a timer of 30 mins and got aboot 15,500 cxp with a few fuck up runs where I didn't get to the safe room. Straight up you're full of it for claiming that it had been patched when it clearly wasn't and making ppl go through your method which does yield a bit more cxp per hour but has a lot more set up to it with added complications . . . your starting to annoy me man with how you react so negatively to ppl adding in information that you missed or lacked so heres another downvote. The end result will be a difference of aboot half an hour to go from 18 to 20 if you consistently get your harder 36k per hour vs the easier 32k per hour clock method and considering the clock takes much less prep time, can be done solo, and can work with even the weakest of characters it'll probly be the best method for the most ppl overall. Just quit it man denial isn't your strong suit.

By SSgtRubberDucky on 29 Nov 2020 11:05

Is the score cards giving more cxp affecting master difficulty only? Need 3 players? I've been doing insane runs solo and I've gotten no difference with, or without 2 lvl 5 score cards on.

By SSJ4Angelus on 01 Dec 2020 02:22

I don't know , I did it a couple days ago when it was the daily and we blasted through it so fast I didn't even notice. You'll be surprised how easy it is, just bad memories from when we were noobs with shitty weak characters

By The Allslayer on 01 Dec 2020 02:24

I’m quite happy with the Decent act 3 runs although it’s still a drag from level 19-20. I keep aiming to get all the classes maxed but I have do something different from time to time so I don’t get bored. There’s also definitely a nice boost from the featured hive each week. Plus I guess there’s no rush to max Assault and Support classes...at the moment.

By Tom Live v7 on 04 Dec 2020 16:44

@Ron

If I had boost then my numbers would be doubled, but still not close to Eagle's numbers. From what I can tell, the only difference between us is he did it with a group and had boost, whereas I'm playing solo and no boost. I'm not real interested in cards at the moment, and I like playing solo(don't have to look around for and depend on players showing up or possible lag), so Surge runs aren't an option for some classes. If your numbers include boost, then I'd get 4500, not 9000, which is less in the same amount of time.

By SSJ4Angelus on 04 Dec 2020 22:55

So many different opinions. So what do you do on the clock on Master. Run to first safe room and die. Or enter safe room and on 2nd part run to exit pull lever and die.

By Mossberg AZ on 09 Jan 2021 22:57

for the clock you need rejects and juvies spawn, first part run to the safe room opening it and not closing it, although that seems to make no difference, die to the rejects or juvies or restart act. I'm still unsure what the difference is if any, that's been the tried and true method for ages. it was originally broke for me leading me to find the descent had the same effect but better pre-master change. with the master change the clock is best and it seems to work again.

By TheAaronLad on 09 Jan 2021 23:56

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