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Pick Me Up

Pick Me Up

You made intelligent use of free resources and beat the campaign without using the Lancer or Gnasher

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How to unlock the Pick Me Up achievement in Gears of War 4 - Definitive Guide

This achievement actually can be cheesed, I just did it myself. You can do the splitscreen method with your guest or someone else on casual, just don't use the gnasher or lancer for either character. Again, only the account going this has to be on hardcore or above, the other player CAN BE on casual. If you haven't done your inconceivable runs, you can knock both those achievements and this one in one run with the cheese(as others have confirmed the glitched nature of solo inconceivable). I just did this myself, so the other guys saying you BOTH have to be hardcore is false
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Just finished the campaing with my buddy, he was on Inconceivable, I was on Casual. Neither of us killed anybody with Lancer or Gnasher (Retro Lancer is OK to use).

He got the achievement at the beginning of the credits.

He was the host in ACT 1, then we switched to me being the host because of the helicopter section. I was the host in ACT 2, then we switched again to get the Memento Mori boltok. He was the host in ACT 3.

Meaning...... This DOES NOT have to be on the same save.
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By Darth Hawk CZ on 30 Dec 2017 17:42
Well... I am stuck at the dreaded 95% progress for this achievement... when I started on this achievement I had already completed 33% of the achievement from my inconceivable play through... When I started on this achievement, I carefully tracked which chapters gave me progress and which chapters did not so I know which chapters was already completed........... I have went back and replayed all the chapters that did not give me progress previously and all the suggestions about playing the prologue, solo play one chapter, no chainsaw on debris, etc from the other comments with no luck... at this point I guess I will start replay the campaign on hardcore solo and see what happens... I have wasted too much time trying to get this achievement to pop at this point.... I will let you know how I got the achievement to pop once it does..... good luck to everyone on this achievement...
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By RegentVirus201 on 28 Nov 2018 01:49
Why does hardcore need to be cheesed? It's hardcore...laugh. I have seen reports of player not unlocking the achievement when one player was not on hardcore. So it may be buggy.
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By Slayer Reigning on 10 Dec 2017 14:50
I played through the campaign with a friend on inconceivable/casual. After finishing the campaign it didn’t unlock. Next I started my iron man playthrough and it unlocked at the end of 2-3 for whatever reason. I also carried the custom lancer all the way through the first playthrough to get that achievement. If you did the requirements right, the achievement will unlock when it feels like it lol
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By Marcus Pigeon on 10 Dec 2017 15:30
@Slayers Reign - my guess is because playing the campaign for the 10th time is certainly not fun, hardcore or not. Casual you can literally run and gun, there's almost nowhere you can die unless you get caught by a chainsaw. I've not done this run yet, as i just cba with yet ANOTHER run of the same story - it can wait
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By El Thommo on 11 Dec 2017 11:50
This have do be done with a single save? I joined a friend's game to pass through the bike section but my save is still on the save chapter, I can only continue if I load another chapter.
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By cooorpse on 12 Dec 2017 01:19
^^ I am thinking it has to be on a single save. Why are you joining a friend on bike section, you were going through on split screen?
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By T Dawg182 on 12 Dec 2017 06:01
This achievement is bullshit, just ran through with a guest on casual 10000% sure I never used a lancer or gnasher (didn't even use retro lancer) and it didn't pop, I'm pissed off, all I can think of is that I did the bike mission solo instead of co op with my guest
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By Da Lukinator on 14 Dec 2017 04:56
Noah fence to The coalition but they should have added a game feature that resets you to the last checkpoint if you kill a rascal with a gnasher/lancer. I imagine they wouldn't want to so they trick you into doing the campaign again. hmmmmmmmmmmm
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By FiveWizz on 14 Dec 2017 15:01
I did the bikes co-op online and the rest with my controller I doubt that's it
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By Jay Insomniak on 14 Dec 2017 15:11
I can confirm that if you use a second controller and DO use a gnasher/lancer with it, you will NOT unlock the achievement cry. I didn't get a kill with the gnasher/lancer at all with my main account but the achievement didn't unlock.
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By British Legends on 18 Dec 2017 09:26
If anyone wants to run this after Christmas, let me know.
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By MulticronX on 22 Dec 2017 00:39
If anyone wants to run this after Christmas, let me know.
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By MulticronX on 22 Dec 2017 03:53
Yeah i just completed the campagin today with inconceivable/casual but no achievement it seems to be both hardcore
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By Darkroder92 on 22 Dec 2017 10:21
Without any of us used lancer and gnasher its seems its glitchy
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By Darkroder92 on 22 Dec 2017 10:38
It's definitely not
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By Jay Insomniak on 22 Dec 2017 11:33
Just a heads up for you guys, i did this with my inconceivable runs. However I remember shooting at a DeeBee with a lancer by accident, didin't finish him off. Marcus did. Anyways just finished the game and i didin't unlock Pick Me up. :(
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By CheezNCrackerz on 24 Dec 2017 06:46
If anyone wants to run this after Christmas, let me know.
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By MulticronX on 24 Dec 2017 21:09
Could you stop the spam? Not a very Christmasy thing to do. Set up a session ffs warning
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By Jay Insomniak on 24 Dec 2017 23:58
Just to echo what Jay Insomniak said, mine unlocked after finishing Act 5 Chapter 2 yesterday. Did this after I finished my Inconceivable run earlier in the morning.
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By DownInFlames85 on 26 Dec 2017 18:40
I hit a Juvie with a gnasher, a melee attack. Did I just ruin the achievement?
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By Ninjabird00 on 27 Dec 2017 04:33
During my run I shot a Lancer once but didn't hit anything and I was fine. Unsure about melee, just make a note of what chapter you did it on and replay it later if needed.
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By Jay Insomniak on 27 Dec 2017 05:39
OK good to know
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By Ninjabird00 on 27 Dec 2017 10:16
From what people have said, this is tracked on a per chapter basis so if something screws up, you can just replay the chapter you are on. Cannot confirm this myself as my co op partner isnt available yet but would make sense why some people are replaying chapters and finally getting it (maybe 1 chapter they didnt realize what they killed with)?
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By Shaneanigens on 28 Dec 2017 03:52
If done correctly it should popp by act 5 chapter 3, . u get in mechs. I had a friend run through with me and he accidently shotgun someone in act 2 right after the start to raid marcus's mansion. Played through rest of campaign mo cheevo. Restarted new campaign , got back to that point again and it popped right when going into marcus's armory.
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By PNOIDSCHIZ on 03 Jan 2018 11:27
Does this achievement use tracker, I’ve done prologue and a t 1 but still 0%
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By Sighris on 10 Jan 2018 01:58
no
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By Jay Insomniak on 10 Jan 2018 02:07
Does the "cheese" only work on splitscreen? In other words, can I be on Hardcore, my partner be on casual but partner is connected through online connection, not splitscreen?

I do realize that both players must not use lancer/gnasher.
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By OLOT on 10 Jan 2018 22:51
I did Motorcycles online. I did beat it on Inconceivable solo before though. Keep in mind this is not limited to a single save or playthrough you can do any chapter in any order.
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By Jay Insomniak on 10 Jan 2018 23:24
Sighiris - I think it does use a tracker - mine is at 35% after doing random chapters for other achievements.
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By RomanAround on 14 Jan 2018 16:42
Well if that's the case it either wasn't working when I did it or wasn't active around launch good to know for others going through it!
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By Jay Insomniak on 14 Jan 2018 16:47
My progress count 100%. But, nothing yet. I think this is will open when the game wanted.. Its a very embarrassment.
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By OLDs Guga on 22 Jan 2018 17:38
That is true you can skip motorcycle part and whole last act cause it is already counted as done.
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By LAS7 WeemaN on 01 Feb 2018 14:23
Confirmed: 2d controller casual, main profile hardcore. Retro lancer usable. Both can't kill with gnasher and lancer.

@Las7 Weeman: this is incorrect. The achievement is not retroactive, so if you haven't done the motorcycle and last act (starting with the giant deebees) after the december patch, you have to do it again
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By Chalam360 on 19 Feb 2018 11:38
FYI, I damaged (not killed) an enemy with the Lancer, died, and restarted from checkpoint right before, then finished the chapter - it didn't count for that chapter and I had to do it again.
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By NeM2K on 19 Feb 2018 12:05
95%. Played campaign through 2 times. None of these solutions has fixed it
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By Simsonman08 on 23 Feb 2018 13:46
I also had the 95% issue after finishing the campaign on Hardcore. I replayed the prologue and what I think was the issue was that on the final section of defending the fort as the Medic, I chainsawed the wood barrier open (because Bernie told me to).

As stupid as this is, the game may count that as "using" the chainsaw and voiding that chapter.

I equipped the snub, smashed the wood open, then killed the two locust, took their hammerbursts and finished the chapter. The achievement then popped when the ending cutscene for the chapter started.

Not sure if the chainsawing the wood was causing it to be buggy, but just thought I'd share my experience.
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By NwO Kavinsky on 03 Mar 2018 19:22
Did my Insane run solo, and realized a few Chapters in I should work on this achievement. Went the entire rest of the campaign without Lancer and Gnasher. So now on my Inconceivable solo run, I've completed the Prologue and 1-1, 1-2 (which all gave me progress) and 1-3 (1-3 was when I had already started vetting the Lancer and Gnasher) and I'm at the dreaded 95%. I have no idea which one I'm missing. I'll probably keep going without the Lancer and Gnasher until I get to the Custom Lancer... but dang, man. Dunno where I went wrong...
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By CodeMonkeysGuy on 13 Mar 2018 04:49
Figured out that I was somehow missing Act IV Chapter 1, got the achievement. I don't know how... I didn't even have a Lancer or Gnasher equipped when I did it the first time. But, having done it again on my Inconceivable run, I have the achievement. So for anyone else stuck at 95% maybe try that one I guess.
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By CodeMonkeysGuy on 14 Mar 2018 14:06
Ran through this twice and if the second player uses the lancer or gnasher it won't pop. I'm about to run through it for a third time on solo to be 100% sure it will pop. My percentage is also stuck at 95% and carried on counting up on my first attempt so this is definitely a glitchy achievement
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By Rick Hustler7 on 02 Apr 2018 00:24
Codemonkeysguy is absolutely right, popped as soon as the lift ascend cutscene finished 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
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By Rick Hustler7 on 02 Apr 2018 00:49
had the 95% glitch and just replayed the prologue to unlock it!
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By Erving D on 14 May 2018 13:22
I also had success with CodeMonkeysGuy's suggestion. Replayed 4-1 on hardcore and made sure to have the pistol equipped when cutting through shot/breaking through locked doors and it popped as soon as I finished the cable ride.
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By ThePaleHorseman on 03 Jun 2018 07:42
Bloody Prologue 😑 It's what caught me out too. Chainsawing the blockage
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By A Big Radroach on 17 Jun 2018 19:54
Can you mix doing it solo for some parts and doing others in coop local or online?
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By FranconianX on 20 Jun 2018 16:01
The friend I was completing this with and I finished the campaign with 95% progress. I am absolutely certain that we did not shoot or melee with either gun.

Like others have suggested, we each completed the prologue chapters on solo hardcore and this popped immediately after. If you are stuck at 95% after playing through the campaign, I highly recommend you do a quick run of the prologue.

P.S.
It was not a case of using the lancer to clear the debris or anything like that. This achievement is just goofy. Maybe it needs to register that you've cleared an act solo for whatever reason.
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By MasterMinshew on 20 Aug 2018 05:06
I'm guessing it'd be easier just to do this solo.
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By SchizoPsycho74 on 21 Oct 2018 22:35
Hello, complete the campaign in hardcore solo, without Gnasher or Lancer, and I did not skip the achievement, it remains at 95%, I followed the recommendation of some comments, how to pass the prologue and open the wood without the Lancer, and pass again the act IV chapter 1, but still I do not skip the achievement, I do not know what can be, I played the campaign in order, so I did not skip any chapter or act. cry

Sorry for my English, but I'm from Chile and I speak Spanish.
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By IRevengeeeee on 22 Oct 2018 01:35
same here did it a week ago stuck at 95% replayed all chapters mentioned in the comments replaying prologue 4 times now doesnt help shit it already gave me 50% progress before even started this and kept progressing along the way to 95% i can guaratee you no gnasher of lancer was fired once even or equipped to open doors or obstacles
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By raidenhardcore on 22 Oct 2018 15:49
So what do we have left to do? roll
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By IRevengeeeee on 23 Oct 2018 00:43
It finally drop the achivement! I replayed the first act and when i was on ACT1 Chapter 4 gave me the achivement :D
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By Deux Ex Mach1na on 25 Oct 2018 00:58
I replayed the first act,chapter I and the drop the achivement dance
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By IRevengeeeee on 25 Oct 2018 23:50
i chainsawed a door to get it open. Does that void the achievement?
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By AdamJLink on 14 Nov 2018 01:10
Got the achievement... started the campaign over on hardcore and the achievement popped after act 3 chapter 2... I had already completed this chapter 2 other times before this... no idea why it popped this time
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By RegentVirus201 on 28 Nov 2018 16:02
So if I play online coop and my friend uses them it’s voided also? Saw that it doesn’t work in split screen but was curious if this applies to online too.
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By Poopdog M60Riot on 10 Aug 2019 03:32
Played through the game twice now without ever even firing a Lancer or Gnasher and the achievement is stuck at 91%, any suggestions? This is fucking bullshit.
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By Ethigy on 17 Nov 2019 04:38
I am 91% the same someone to help me with this please
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By CR0CELL on 12 May 2020 03:42
I heard about this... if you chainsaw au thing like the wood at the start of the game that counts as using your lancer. Do the mission again (prologue) and melee through the wood if it increases you know where you went wrong
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By QueezyCrunch on 21 May 2020 14:09
so not even the dummy account can use the gnasher or lancer?
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By MrKoolxDood on 04 Feb 2021 03:08
Just got it, finally! My report is : I played the first act using lancer, then with a friend for maximum difficulty objective, he on random. I didn't use lancers anymore but no pop. Started new story, difficult on its own and obtained upon the arrival of giant robots 5-2. Best wishes to everyone.
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By Simone l8l on 14 Apr 2021 23:34
Working on Hardcore in Co-Op.m and have just completed Act I

My friend has 20% progress but I only have 16%!! My war journal also states that I have only completed 4 chapters - so definitely something going on! Will update when I replay later on and see what was broken! angry

UPDATE: After the next chapter it sorted itself out, also unlocked the co-op chapter achievement that hadnt popped - so looks like just random delay.
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By metallicafan459 on 19 Sep 2022 12:31
I did with split screen. A few annoying part but quite easy killing stuff with second controller.
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By Nit0rin on 16 Sep 2023 23:23
No it doesn't you can do any chapter in any order. My achievement popped at the end of Act 5.2 because I had already beaten chapter 3 and 4 on Hardcore or above and they have no Lancer or Gnasher.
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By Jay Insomniak on 12 Dec 2017 10:39
Nice found Jay Insomniak! I was on split screen with a second controller and the bike section is impossible that way, so I asked a friend to help me. I did it solo after that by the way =p
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By cooorpse on 12 Dec 2017 11:24
I did the inconceivable cheese and am 100% positive that I did not kill enemies with anything but boltok, markza, and hammerburst. I did not receive this achievement.

I know my coop buddy was heavy on lancer usage, so I can only assume that both players have to not use the lancer or gnasher despite difficulty or any other factors.
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By Mobius Evalon on 17 Jan 2018 06:03
This achievement does use a tracker, and gives you 4% it seems for each successful chapter, which makes sense since there are 24 chapters to the game. It appears after a recent update, i checked my game while playing, completed prolouge and A1Chapter1 and was at 16%. which doesn't really make sense since there are 3 chapters where you can't use these weapons that i had already completed. but it makes me think that this acheivement is NOT missable.
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By Kanchanaburi on 31 Jan 2018 00:25
Me neither, i replayed all acts and chapters and my achivement is still locked at 95%
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By Deux Ex Mach1na on 24 Oct 2018 07:34
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IMPORTANT: There are people who have reported that this achievement doesn't pop as mine did at the credits. My advice would be to do this when connected to Xbox Live, and if it doesn't pop at the credits, play through the campaign again and wait 72 hours for XL to sync. Make sure you do this in one save file, go on Hardcore, and don't kill anyone with a Lancer or Gnasher, including melee/ Chainsaw. Further clarification is given below.

As of the January update for Gears 4, you now will see chapter progress on the achievement. Each chapter you complete should go some of the way to getting the achievement. You can use the achievement tracker to make sure it is calibrated. There has been a person who says that the progress is slow to update, and thus 2 chapters progress may be put on instead of 1. Make sure you account for that if you decide to use this method.

Just to add clarity to the description, you can hold a Lancer/Gnasher, and shoot from a Lancer/Gnasher, but you CANNOT KILL AN ENEMY OF ANY DESCRIPTION WITH THE LANCER/GNASHER.

You can kill with any other gun, the Retro Lancer, Marksa, Overkill, Boomshot, Torque Bow, Grenades, Pistols etc.etc. just make sure you don't kill an enemy with the Gnasher/Lancer, play on Hardcore difficulty (or harder if you feel like challenging yourself) and the achievement should pop at the credits.

I would advise people to drop the Lancer and swap it for a Hammerburst or a Retro Lancer, if available, and swap out the Gnasher for any power weapons, like the Longshot, Boomshot or Dropshot.

In the first part of the prologue, swap out the Gnasher for the Marksa Mk.1 after defeating the first UIR soldiers you meet. You will find ammo for this from fallen enemies and from ammo boxes.

In the second part of the prologue, swap your Gnasher for a Hammerburst after you defeat the Locust Drones, again, you can find ammo from the boxes at the House of Sovereigns and from fallen Drones. Boomshots are available from fallen Boomers that you kill.

In the third part of the prologue, defeat the 2 Locust Drones at the top with your Snub or Frag Grenades. Then, pick up the Hammerburst, and there should also be a Boomshot in that area as well, which you can swap for the Lancer and Gnasher.

At the beginning of Act 1 Chapter 1, if you are playing as JD, you will start with a Marksa and a Gnasher, you can swap this for a Retro from Oscar, a Longshot from Kait, or a Hammerburst from Del.

In Act 2 Chapter 2, All Geared Up, you will automatically pick up a Custom Lancer and a Gnasher. Drop these before leaving the area, as leaving the area will trigger DeeBees to come down from the dropship. There is 2 Longshots, for 16 bullets, Hammerbursts, Marksas, Retro Lancers, Frag and Incendiary grenades to pick up. After this you won't be reset of your weapons until the very end, in Act 5 Chapter 3 when you go into the Giant Mechs, and by that time you cannot hold a Lancer or Gnasher for the rest of the game.

Be careful not to pick up the various amounts of Lancer and Gnasher leftovers on the way.

EDIT: I was presuming that the majority of people had already beaten the campaign before attempting this, or at least I would recommend you beat the campaign on Hardcore before attempting this.

It really isn't that difficult. If you are new, or struggling, look on the solution for the Insane campaign, for a more definitive guide on beating the campaign. They contain videos and tips on certain parts of the campaign. I wouldn't recommend beating the campaign without a Lancer or a Gnasher on a first time playing really. Play the campaign, learn where to go and where the weapons are, and swap them out. It isn't as difficult as Inconceivable or Insane by a longshot.

For those doing Co-op, it can be obtainable doing it in this mode, however, your partner must also not kill anyone with a Lancer or the Gnasher, and playing on Hardcore or they wont get the achievement themselves. EDIT 2: You can go on Hardcore and your Co-Op partner on Casual, and as long as the person playing Hardcore doesn't kill an enemy with a Lancer or a Gnasher, that person will get the achievement, and not the person getting Casual.
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^ Yeah, as you can see from the comments people have had problems. I cant share the same experiences as you and other people, I was lucky and had mine go through immediately.

Other than the normal achievement troubleshooting, and the play the prologue method, I cannot really say any other than do it again, which I know is frustrating, but hopefully TC wont do another campaign achievement in the next update. I hate this achievement because it is so glitchy and the amount of people that hate this achievement for that is unbelievable.

I remember in Halo 5 I had to complete Legendary on solo twice because my system OS had corrupted and rendered me useless to get achievements on any game for about 2 months and 5 calls on Xbox Support.
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By Circa Darkrage on 20 Aug 2018 16:03
nice guide lol
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By KontoGR on 07 Dec 2017 22:59
I would have thought the retro lancer would count as a "lancer".
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By count023 on 07 Dec 2017 23:05
^ Same here, i'm not risking using the retro lancer, the hammerburst is good enough for me.
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By Serious X Devil on 07 Dec 2017 23:16
Probably worth waiting for someone to do this so they can confirm which weapons are allowed.
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By WithTheDawn on 08 Dec 2017 01:12
I would say the Retro Lancer is ok. When they teased the achievements they said 2 of the most iconic weapons in Gears of War. Those would be the normal Lancer and the Gnasher.

Retro Lancer wasn't even on the first Gears of War game and it tracks kills as a different weapon and is also treated as a different weapon in arms race. So I would say it's safe to assume you can use it.
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By SiegfriedX on 08 Dec 2017 01:29
Just curious but does it say anywhere it has to be hardcore? Just want to know if I am missing something, thanks!
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By wildwest08 on 08 Dec 2017 02:14
^ In the achievement description it says hardcore or higher.
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By Serious X Devil on 08 Dec 2017 02:17
Thanks! @Serious X Devil
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By wildwest08 on 08 Dec 2017 02:31
Master Irishman

What chu talking about Willis?
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By HollabackGaming on 08 Dec 2017 05:12
yeah was just about to say the same thing. i actually only got one kill with the retro but yeah the retro definitely is allowed.
@Master Irishman Do you want to be the one to test that out then? cuz Its most likely meaning you cant use either one and nobody wants to get through the campaign to have it not unlock and then have to go through it all again for the 100th playthrough
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By J2B9 on 08 Dec 2017 06:36
@Master Irishman You're trolling right? So if someone tells you don't press this button or that button, you think they're saying you can press one of them as much as you want as long as you don't press the other? facepalm
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By The Allslayer on 08 Dec 2017 08:37
Did he remove his comment? what did he say? laugh
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By Serious X Devil on 08 Dec 2017 13:04
In Coop, unlock?
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By Aldeanovita on 08 Dec 2017 13:36
"as far as I know" should not be allowed in a solution. Post a solution when you know, not before.
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By meatman75 on 08 Dec 2017 14:41
Wow some people can't read then. roll
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By Serious X Devil on 08 Dec 2017 15:16
your guide was good enough we had all the information we needed to get the achievement, I mean its simple enough complete hardcore without killing anyone with the lancer/gnasher, some people are just funny.
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By Serious X Devil on 08 Dec 2017 17:35
^ The only reason I had posted this solution was to clarify any misconceptions, which I didn't do terrifically, as seen in the comment section, but tbh, I don't know what people were expecting. If people want a guide, then I would just be copying off a variety of different people who have done a guide on a harder difficulty over a year before. I'm not copying off other people, I don't like it.
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By Circa Darkrage on 08 Dec 2017 17:45
can i get this achievement in coop with guest player? (guest player set easy and use lancer or gnasher)
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By MIRAGE in night on 08 Dec 2017 19:38
Both of you cannot kill using the lancer or gnasher or it will void your achievement but i reckon difficulty does not matter, it has not on all the other difficulty based achievements but i cannot say for sure it will unlock.
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By Serious X Devil on 08 Dec 2017 20:19
A post from Gears of War 4's Facebook Page showed this image and after seeing it i wouldn't recommend having a second player use the lancer/gnasher if you want this achievement as it says in brackets "Includes co-op partner".

Heres the Image.
https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/24799625_1727...
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By Serious X Devil on 08 Dec 2017 20:24
so basically just Retro, Marzka, Hammerburst as your primary weapons, with the occasional power weapon pickup. Easy shit.
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By The SCHWARTZ 00 on 08 Dec 2017 21:58
I just did this solo without EVER FIRING A SINGLE BULLET with a Lancer or Gnasher and no achievement. WHAT THE HELL?
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By SiegfriedX on 09 Dec 2017 01:16
^ That's my number one fear of doing this, as i really really cannot be bothered with more runs of the campain.
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By Serious X Devil on 09 Dec 2017 01:41
WHAT THE HELL AGAIN. Achievement just popped now for no reason at all, at the end of act 1 chapter 1... At least I'm done with this pos achievement. angry
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By SiegfriedX on 09 Dec 2017 01:53
If I have a friend that don't care about achievements play on easy kill everything will I still get it
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By keoskey on 09 Dec 2017 07:10
Can you cheese through it with a buddy on easy? or do both players have ot be hardcore and neither use lancer/gnasher?
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By count023 on 09 Dec 2017 08:02
^^ I doubt anyone wants to test it as if it doesn't work that's another playthrough and if it does work it's still another playthrough unless the person on easy doesn't care. Why bother? It's not even difficult.
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By The Allslayer on 09 Dec 2017 12:51
Yeah guys, as said 4 posts above with @SiegfriedX's post, the achievement may take up to 72 hours to pop. It may pop immediately when the credits roll, or it may take a couple of minutes afterwards for it to do.

If it is not popping, go into the Prologue and play a couple of missions, or wait a couple of days, and it will pop in some random session after.
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By Circa Darkrage on 09 Dec 2017 15:04
@keoskey @count023 I don't know if this will void the achievement, I've not tested it, but just to be on the safe side, I wouldn't do it. I will find out as soon as I can for you.
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By Circa Darkrage on 09 Dec 2017 15:06
Both players must be on hardcore.
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By Slayer Reigning on 09 Dec 2017 23:39
^^
Incorrect, I cheesed it by playing splitscreen local(guest playing on casual) while I played on inconceivable(since I had not done that yet). I managed to unlock both inconceivable achievements and this one in one playthrough. I did not use gnasher or lancer for both characters however, but difficulty DOES NOT have to hardcore for both, only on the account going for it. The achievement popped straightaway for me when credits rolled.
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By T Dawg182 on 10 Dec 2017 08:26
my friend have this game,and this achievement dont pop for him,he think this achievement is bugged.
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By JUSTTHINKSD on 10 Dec 2017 13:49
he got it,like @SiegfriedX said.
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By JUSTTHINKSD on 10 Dec 2017 14:03
Thank you @T Dawg182, I've updated the solution to clarify that you can do this.
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By Circa Darkrage on 10 Dec 2017 14:42
Are we allow use Gnasher melee? I know Lancer chainsaw wont work.
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By ReAl ImPuLsE on 14 Dec 2017 22:48
@ReAl ImPuLsE, as long as that melee doesnt kill an enemy, then yes. If it does kill an enemy, then no. I dont know why you would melee with a Gnasher anyway but each to their own.

@DARTH WINNERS, replay the first misson of the campaign, and it should pop if you met the requirements.
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By Circa Darkrage on 15 Dec 2017 09:39
Same boat. Just finished in co-op. Both of us on hardcore. Then played through to Act 1 chapter 2 and still nothing.
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By Phil the Bear on 19 Dec 2017 02:14
Act3 ch3 for me
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By BarriedU on 24 Dec 2017 21:21
Played thru with a friend both on hardcore and also with a 2nd controller on casual and still nothing
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By Gouldy1972 on 28 Dec 2017 13:53
@Gouldy1972 Try going through the campaign again. This has worked for a couple of people. Wait 72 hours for the achievement to pop. I would do this whilst connected to Xbox Live as well, to prevent any issues on that front. Mine popped when the credits rolled, so I didn't experience any of these issues here. But I was prepared from what I heard.
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By Circa Darkrage on 28 Dec 2017 16:38
Played thru a little more of chapter one and nothing popped. Fortunately it popped later when I went offline.
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By Gouldy1972 on 29 Dec 2017 12:09
Confirming that I ran through on co-op splitscreen with second controller on casual. Did the motorbike section on solo. Got the achievement as the credits rolled.
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By HolyHalfDead on 30 Dec 2017 14:02
Popped for me in beggining of credits at the end of the game.
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By xMoretti on 06 Jan 2018 21:27
I had a weird thing where some chapters did not pop up with any progress for the achievement in the tracker but completing the following chapter increased it enough for both chapters so it added up in the end.
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By dj racey jc on 22 Jan 2018 10:26
Hay guys , Is it possible to load the chackpoint if you just killed.someone with the gnasher , to erase the kill ?
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By KINGDAVIDXL on 01 Feb 2018 08:03
^I'm not too sure, I don't think it is possible, unless you were offline when you did it and you haven't been on since.

If you were online, the info will have already gone to the cloud and your achievement might be null and void. Sorry, hope this helps.
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By Circa Darkrage on 03 Feb 2018 14:57
replay the entire chapter and you should be okay.
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By Serious X Devil on 03 Feb 2018 16:05
4% is earnt for each chapter. It seems progress is gained per chapter, and out of order, you can still get progress, insinuating that this is NOT MISSable if you know the chapter you screwed up on. After Jan update, I had 16% after playing only the prologue. I just finished 3-1 and didn't get progress for it, meaning that it was already given in my 16% start up, showing me that you can get progress out of order.
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By Kanchanaburi on 13 Feb 2018 07:53
My campaign run glitched on the turbines in act IV, Marcus kept dying. Has this been confirmed that it HAS to be in a single save?
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By MovieMan5021 on 14 Feb 2018 07:20
^ It doesn't have to be done on a single save.

People have confirmed if you go through the chapter individually without the use of a Lancer or a Gnasher and the percentage will go up by ~4% on your achievement tracker.

As long as you complete every chapter without killing a person with a Lancer or a Gnasher you will get it. It doesnt matter if you do it in one playthrough and one save, or if you do it individually in chapters. Although, doing it on one save will help, as you know which chapters you have and have not done.
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By Circa Darkrage on 14 Feb 2018 11:28
Cause I'm sitting at 95% on my tracker, so I must have messed up on one chapter not realizing it.
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By MovieMan5021 on 14 Feb 2018 14:30
You may have, or the progress tracker is slow to update.

I would wait a couple of days unless you know specifically what chapter you know you have messed up on. It might be the game being slow to give the achievement. Mine popped instantly, but many others have not been so lucky.

If by Saturday the achievement hasn't popped, then it's likely you've missed a chapter. Although you cannot find out which chapter that is, it may be one of the earlier chapters, ie. Act 2 chapter 2, the Prologue, and chapters close to that. I'd start at those if you're unsure which one is missing.
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By Circa Darkrage on 15 Feb 2018 14:34
Yeah, I went back last night and played the prologue and it popped upon completion. Apparently I might have used a Lancer or gnasher not paying attention before. Glad it's done!
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By MovieMan5021 on 16 Feb 2018 14:20
Brilliant. Glad it's all sorted out for you.
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By Circa Darkrage on 19 Feb 2018 10:49
95% wooooooooo. So annoying angryangryangry
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By Uh0h its Renaud on 24 Feb 2018 13:03
^ As I've said above, just wait a few days for Xbox Live to update, it can be slow, especially with this achievement.

Or you can play a few chapters and it may spur XL to update a bit quicker.
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By Circa Darkrage on 24 Feb 2018 14:38
Do not use either weapon to destroy mandatory barricades. That might be why you guys are having to do the prologue over.
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By mi2good4u on 13 Mar 2018 07:41
I was stuck on 95% upon completion of my playthrough - replayed the prologue and it unlocked.
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By godsandm0nsters on 24 Apr 2018 20:14
Do you mean co-op hardcore or just solo for the prologue?
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By Mochawl on 09 Jul 2018 02:42
Solo by yourself and then it should unlock
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By Serious X Devil on 09 Jul 2018 11:41
I did before resetting my game after co-op inconceivable, it’s stuck at 41%, so I guess I will wait a little and try again solo

Thank you man
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By Mochawl on 09 Jul 2018 12:14
I played solo and co op and I'm stuck at 62%.
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By SchizoPsycho74 on 21 Jul 2018 12:59
Just for an update, you can NOT shoot the Lancer or Gnasher at all!
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By Mattyl22l on 06 Aug 2018 01:55
My friend I was doing Co-op with accidentally shot his Lancer and we didn’t get progress for that chapter. Maybe they made a change to the achievement or it was just a bug for us, I don’t know, just wanted to let anyone aware of it if they haven’t done it yet.
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By Mattyl22l on 07 Aug 2018 15:09
We also had trouble using the Retro Lancer and wasn’t making progress with it.
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By Mattyl22l on 07 Aug 2018 15:17
The friend I was completing this with and I finished the campaign with 95% progress. I am absolutely certain that we did not shoot or melee with either gun.

Like others have suggested, we each completed the prologue chapters on solo hardcore and this popped immediately after. If you are stuck at 95% after playing through the campaign, I highly recommend you do a quick run of the prologue.

P.S.
It was not a case of using the lancer to clear the debris or anything like that. This achievement is just goofy. Maybe it needs to register that you've cleared an act solo for whatever reason.
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By MasterMinshew on 20 Aug 2018 05:05
So is this 100% confirmed that only the person going for the achievement needs to not use the weapons? Can my partner playing on casual use the lancer or will that void the achievement for me too?
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By rangersfan414 on 11 Jul 2019 15:31
@J4CKA1 The tracker will tick up for each chapter when XBL updates. It is slow, and there is no direct way of finding which chapter you have and haven't satisfied the requirements with, it's just a method of seeing whether it is working on XBL side of things.

@rangersfan414 From what I've heard, having a co-op partner shoot their Lancer and Gnasher on casual will void the achievement. I'm not 100% sure, because I didn't try it myself, but some people say it does. Personally, I wouldn't do it on both characters just to make sure.
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By Circa Darkrage on 13 Jul 2019 11:39
I'm trying to do this in conjunction with the 'Deadly Resourceful' achievement, which is popping each swarmak blister with a different weapon on Insane, and I'm a bit worried about whether or not popping a blister with the lancer counts as a lancer kill.

I refuse to play Insane any more than I have to, so could someone please tell me if it counts?
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By A So So Sniper on 04 Sep 2019 23:43
@A So So Sniper I would presume that it would still be valid, because you are not killing the Brumak, unless you use the Lancer to pop the last blister.

If popping a blister does count as a kill, you can replay the chapter on Hardcore again and it should count.
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By Circa Darkrage on 05 Sep 2019 15:37
@J4CKA1 People have said that their co-op partner using the Lancer/Gnasher themselves have not got the progress towards the achievement.

I would recommend that both people don't use a Gnasher/Lancer.
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By Circa Darkrage on 08 Sep 2019 11:02
I will +1 @Circa Darkrage's comment above. I was doing it with my brother and he was using Gnasher/Lancer so it stopped counting for me. After we did a second replay and asked him to avoid using those two, I'm currently at 95% (damn TC I will need to a third replay and see which chapter I'm missing angry)
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By iShaddow GV on 15 Jan 2023 06:47
@Serious X Devil Basically he said you can use one as long as you don't use the other because it says or...

@Geejay Yes it can be solo, it's just saying it applies to your co-op partner too so it can't be cheesed.
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By The Allslayer on 08 Dec 2017 14:41
I've edited the solution due to peoples reactions and comments.

I figured, as there are already guides out there detailing on how to beat the campaign on the harder difficulties, I wouldn't post a guide detailing every move. I just wanted to clarify the description (which looking back I did poorly in some cases).
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By Circa Darkrage on 08 Dec 2017 17:24
I had to play all the way up to Act 2 chapter 2 for it to pop for me after doing it.
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By Phil the Bear on 19 Dec 2017 11:59
This is bullshit. Completed it once on inconceivable with not a single shot fired from either gun and no achievement. Replayed all the way up to act 3 and still nothing. I’m giving up.
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By z I ToP CaT I z on 24 Dec 2017 15:29
For anyone that completes the campaign and it doesn't pop after the credits I highly recommend you just wait instead of playing it over again.

Achievement tracking does register for this but it's a bit wonky. In the beginning of the game I was at 0%, after act 3 66%, after completing the entire game at 75%, after watching the credits 91%. After goofing around just scrapping items for 30 minutes it popped.
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By Moldy Tacos5000 on 13 Jan 2018 21:13
If you guys are doing the achievement in co-op it will it will not unlock at the end like its supposed too, instead you and your coop partner have to both complete the prologue on hard-core "SOLO" while still not using the lancer / gnasher it should unlock upon completion of the prologue.
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By Serious X Devil on 24 Apr 2018 23:18
^ You can shoot your Lancer/Gnasher, but as long as it doesnt kill anyone, you should still get the achievement, as it says in the achievement description.

Yes people shouldnt shoot it at all, and should drop their Lancer/Gnasher ASAP, but some humans like to make life difficult for themselves, and sometimes just clarifying what you can and cannot do is useful.
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By Circa Darkrage on 07 Aug 2018 14:49
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Like many people my achievement had glitched and was stuck at 95% I'd try redoing the prologue as well as completing the campaign again and nothing had worked. I was reading the gears forum today when I read a post about the achievement and someone trying something different.

That was when during the end of the prologue while defending anvil gate he tried something different usually he would hide in cover till the end of the chapter like me, but this time he sat on the turret firing till the end since you can't die on the turret. I tried that and the achievement poped at the end of the prologue. I'm guessing you must be on the turret at the end for it to count that you've completed the prologue.

Hope this works for others like it did for me
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Wow. This worked for me. Thanks man
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By Therion713 on 07 Jun 2019 15:33
Super surprised, but this worked for me too!! Thanks for the tip man, worked like a charm!
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By Danny Dibo on 09 Aug 2019 00:37
This did not work for me and now I don't know what to do. :(
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By I DAN M4N I on 11 Aug 2019 21:41
Didn't work for me
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By MFC06 on 31 Aug 2019 05:18
I tried this and it didn’t pop at the end of the prologue but ended up popping at the end of chapter 1 instead. 👍🏼
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By WhiteWarrior933 on 25 Mar 2020 21:51
Thanks for this, this worked for me
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By Blckbird007 on 07 Feb 2023 01:53
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Just a heads up. Do not use the Lancer or Gnasher for any reason whatsoever. I chainsawed an obstacle and later chainsaw executed an enemy with the former during the Locust invasion scene at the end of the prologue, and restarted the checkpoint and it still counted against me. I later redid this chapter on a new playthrough and avoided the Lancer altogether and it eventually counted in my favor.

This may sound like a very daunting task but Hardcore, while not the easiest, is far, far easier than Insane or Inconceivable difficulty. Enemies won't soak up bullets like they do on Insane nor do a few enemy shots kill you within a fraction of a second like on Inconceivable. I made it through several chapters in a row without dying and even without the bloody-red 'COG' logo the TV screen turning dark opaque red (when near death). It's still a good idea to get a good idea of the enemies and which weapons to pick up throughout the campaign.

When the game starts, swap out the lancer for the Markza when it's dropped by dead enemies during your first fight. From there, gather more Markza ammo and use only that weapon during the chapter. After the mortar fire scene is over, you'll be fighting Locusts on a street before facing a Corpser. When it's safe to, swap out the Gnasher for the Hammer of Dawn.

Later on, when fast forwarding to JD Fenix's time, pick up a Shock Enforcer when the DeeBees are destroyed and use only that! As soon as it's safe, I frequently used the Shock Enforcer during the fights against DeeBees early in the campaign. The Shock Enforcer, despite chewing ammo like crazy, works wonders against DeeBee robot enemies, even against the DR-1s and both Sentinels (armed with Tri-Shot Machine Gun) and Guardians (RL-4-Salvo Missiles). After the robot missions were over and it was no longer possible to replenish Shock Enforcers, I eventually switched to the Hammerburst and Markza during most of the rest of the campaign. They are both available in the weapon's room during Act 2, "Geared Up". Just make sure you swap out the Lancer and Gnasher before leaving the weapons room. As I said earlier, I used the Hammerburst and Markza for at least 95+% of the remaining campaign, the remaining 5 percent involved Boomshots, Buzzsaws, and the Memento Mori for really tough fights.

Whatever you do, AVOID using the Lancer and Gnasher at all at any point in the campaign. If you reach Act 5 Chapter 3, you will be piloting giant robots, and will no longer need to use regular weapons for the rest of the game but you still must complete even these chapters in order for them to count towards the achievement.


CAUTION: This achievement can be glitchy.

If this achievement doesn't unlock right away, just start a new campaign on Hardcore difficulty and avoid shooting the Gnasher and Lancer, and avoid using the latter's chainsaw when cutting through obstacles or executing enemies. Don't even melee enemies with these weapons.

I eventually unlocked this at the end of Act II. Just keep replaying the campaign and if you successfully avoid using the Lancer or Gnasher, you'll eventually complete all chapters and unlock this glitchy achievement. Best of luck to ya.
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