The Outer Worlds

The Outer Worlds

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Family Reunion

Family Reunion

Achieved a compromise between Olivia and Minnie.

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How to unlock the Family Reunion achievement in The Outer Worlds - Definitive Guide

You unlock the achievement by reconciling the differences between mother Olivia and daughter Minnie during the final main quest mission, The Ambrose Intersection. You will arrive at this mission through story progression, but there are four possible endings. This achievement relates to one of those four endings: Achieve a compromise to the Family Reunion achievement.

The other three endings are:

To have access to all four endings, make a save as soon as you get to The Red Tape of Command main quest mission. This is the second to the last main quest mission where you must retrieve a journal. The Postman ending requires a specific action to be performed before the journal is retrieved. The Postman ending precludes obtaining this ending (unless one does some save manipulation). So, to get both this ending and the Postman ending on a single playthrough, make a save file at the decision point BEFORE the journal is obtained.

I recommend doing the Postman ending first. If you have not previously activated the reactor, the Postman Path will also unlock the Greenlight Protocol achievement. The following is a detailed guide: Solution for The Postman In The Outer Worlds

When you start the Ambrose Intersection mission for the purpose of getting this achievement, make sure you have persuade at 150. A high persuade is not required for the other three endings.

Basic persuade need not be high. My character's basic persuasion was only 52 (with very high intelligence & temperament & good charm. However, with the armor master perk that doubled equipment bonuses, I boosted persuasion to 153 as follows:
  • Cashier, Sub-Grade: +1
  • Wearing the Chimaera +20
  • Wearing the Nice Hat +14
  • Caffeine Drink +5
  • Felix wearing Dialog Skills +5 armor with Dialog skills +10/Leadership Skills +10 kit & persuade +5 helmet: +26
  • Parvati wearing Dialog Skills +5 armor with Dialog skills +10/Leadership Skills +10 kit & persuade +5 helmet: +25
  • Felix Perk Bonus Support Persuade: +10
  • Tip: If you include a caffeine drink in the inhaler, you can instantly get Mind +1 resulting in Persuasion +5 by pressing cn_LB as you approach a character with whom you are to have a dialog.
Note: The DLC introduces the Improved Silver Tongue armor mod kit to the game. It is fairly common as loot and is also available at certain vending machines. It provides Dialog Skills +10 compared to the Silver Tongue Kit in the base game that only provided Dialog Skills +5. The Chimaera and the Nice Hat are acquired when you get the Well Dressed achievement in the base game.

If you can't get persuade to 150, you can reset your skills aboard your ship in order to meet this prerequisite.

With 150 persuasion, go to Minnie at the Ambrose Mansion. There will be mission objective markers on both Minnie and Olivia so make sure you follow the objective marker for Minnie at the mansion and not Olivia at the Synthesis & Manufactory Center (SMC).

As you approach your objective be prepared for the dialog to start abruptly. If you need to, ingest a caffeine drink when you are a few meters away. As you begin the dialog with Minnie, immediately suggest a compromise as soon as the option becomes available. The dialog differs depending on what your character has discovered during the game. Be positive and work towards reconciliation. This is a sample dialog, yours might differ slightly:

--What if you & your mother joined forces to cure the marauders.
--[Persuade 65] If the marauders don't get a fix, they'll just rampage across the galaxy.
--[Persuade 100] Why not give her a chance, she's been involved with Adrena-Time since the start.
--[Persuade 150] The Adrena-Time project failed, you couldn't have saved it.
--Opportunities present themselves every day, your Gorgon will come.
--This isn't failure, this is a second chance to work with Olivia.

Minnie will say that maybe her family deserves a second chance. At this point, you will have three options for the Ambrose Intersection Mission:
  1. Restore power to the Adrena-Time reactor
  2. Activate the NDA protocol
  3. Find a compromise between Minnie & OIivia
In other words, if you make a save file here, you can use it to get three of the four endings. If you want the NDA Protocol achievement, just walk up the stairs to either your right and left and go to the terminal behind Minnie. She will protest, but you can use the terminal and activate the NDA protocol unlocking the achievement.

However, to complete the compromise, we must go to Olivia. Return to your ship and go to the Gorgon Landing Pad. From there, go to the SMC facility. If you had befriended PAM before, talk to her. She will be right inside the entrance to the facility and will again lead you through the facility helping to eliminate hostiles. She will stop next to the elevator that leads down to Olivia.

Alternatively, you can make your own way through the facility, eliminating hostiles as you go. When you exit the elevator, use a caffeine drink if you need a +1 mind boost, open the bay door & a smaller door in front of you, and go forward to trigger the dialog with Olivia. Yours might be slightly different but here are some possible dialog choices leading to reconciliation:

--Whoa, hold on! I'm here to make peace!
--Let's take it down a notch.
--Your daughter's agreed to a compromise.
--[Persuade 45] You don't. You just have to trust me.
--She said you were invited to tea?
--Explain
--So you'll work with Minnie.

There are differing scenarios that work. Nevertheless, providing that you choose positive responses, eventually the other person will acquiesce and the achievement pops. The Ambrose Intersection Mission is complete at this point. You get a green check mark in the reconciliation option and red checks in the other two options. Return to the mansion for a short dialog with Minnie and Olivia to finish the DLC story and pop the achievement. Dialog choices do not matter at this point.
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11 Sep 2020 16:24

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Amazing work, +1 and thanks for responding to the PM.

One note - I got the watercolour painting right next to where I collected the Journal in the penultimate quest "The Red Tape of Command". I then couldn't find it in the bedroom. I also didn't actually need it!
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By NoHeroes94 on 11 Sep 2020 19:17
can't find any drawing in the master bedroom. is it considered junk?
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By JakThaRiPP3R84 on 11 Sep 2020 21:18
@NoHeroes94; Congrats on getting the achievement. It's a moot point now but, no, you don't need the child's drawing for the achievement although having it makes the dialog conclude more quickly. I've provided additional detail in the comment above and have edited the solution.
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By Allgorhythm on 11 Sep 2020 22:13
this solution is completely wrong, there are no such drawing in bedroom.wasted me a hour .
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By JUSTTHINKSD on 12 Sep 2020 01:08
you must meet the daughter first,meet the mother first will fail the achievement.
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By JUSTTHINKSD on 12 Sep 2020 01:36
You’re welcome and, more importantly, congrats on your completion.
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By Allgorhythm on 26 Apr 2021 19:38
Overall a detailed guide (and I admire your desire to make this more detailed), but what's missing that I ended up looking up elsewhere was how to actually start this all off! I used this guide to help me, and you make want to look to adapt from it. https://daynglsgameguides.com/2020/09/11/the-outer-worlds-pe...
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By sjpsjpsjp on 12 Sep 2020 23:36
@sjpsjpsjp; Thanks for your observations--point well taken. I have edited the guide and, hopefully, have made it clear when the mission starts and at the earliest point at which the paths of the four endings diverge.
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By Allgorhythm on 21 Sep 2020 01:13
Just completed this achievement and it didnt pop until you go to the manor and talk to both of them after you convince Olivia to go meet her daughter. Minor point but yeah.
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By SonnieSlim on 22 Nov 2020 03:58
Interesting. It popped for me earlier. I’ll edit the solution to reflect your experience. By any chance, do you remember when you got the green check for reconciliation in the mission box? Was it when you talked to Olivia at the facility or later when you had the conversation with Minnie & Olivia at the mansion?
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By Allgorhythm on 22 Nov 2020 14:57
Mine popped at the mansion when both Minnie and Olivia were there
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By wildwest08 on 24 Mar 2021 03:41
Thanx. I'd been meaning to edit the solution after SonnieSlim reported popping the achievement at the mansion and I have now done so.

By any chance, do you remember when you got the green check for reconciliation in the mission box? With me, it was at the SMC facility when talking to Olivia and that's when the achievement popped. Did you get the green check mark when you finished the dialog with Olivia or was it later when you returned to the mansion for the conversation with Olivia & Minnie?
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By Allgorhythm on 24 Mar 2021 14:19
I believe it was when I was at the house the last time and both ladies were there. During the conversation the achievements started to pop and the mission finished while we were talking
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By wildwest08 on 24 Mar 2021 14:23
Yes. I suspect a hotfix or patch made minor changes to the game play. I played it as soon as it hit the streets & there have been some changes since then.

What about the Greenlight Protocol & the NDA Protocol? Do they unlock at the time you take the action or do they unlock when you return to the mansion. With me, it unlocked when I took the action at the terminal/reactor. The mission concluded at that time and I only went back to the mansion to see how the rest played out.
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By Allgorhythm on 24 Mar 2021 17:10
The Greenlight Protocol achievement was earned right when I pressed the button to power on the generator. I walked into the room and shoved her into it.

The NDA Protocol was when I was at the computer and hit enter on activating the protocol
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By wildwest08 on 24 Mar 2021 18:09
OK. Thanks fir the info. The Family Reunion used to work the same way as the two protocols. Now, it seems to require the additional step of going to the mansion.
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By Allgorhythm on 24 Mar 2021 21:07
I have saves before and after getting the journal. And at the start of the Red Tape mission as well. I need to reconcile between the mother and the daughter. When I pick up the journal and go back to the ship and the cut scene happens it goes into the Ambrose mission next. I cannot talk to either person. If I go to the mansion I cannot speak to the one person and if I go into the reactor area all they get is the option of killing her. My persuasion is over 150. This is my final achievement for the game if anyone has any help I appreciate it in advance.
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By O Corpo on 26 Apr 2021 08:06
@O Corpo - You have both the NDA Protocol & the Greenlight Protocol so you should be in fine shape. Use the save file you created just before NDA Protocol. Go to the Ambrose Manor. There, take the elevator down to the lab. Minnie, will appear on screen just as you get to the objective marker—same as when you did the NDA Protocol. Except, this time, choose the dialog option about joining forces & then select the persuade 65, 100, & 150 options.

Once, Minnie says maybe her family deserves a second chance, go to the Gorgon Landing Pad & go to the SMC Facility where you got the Greenlight Protocol achievement. Except, this time, don’t kill Olivia but have a conciliatory talk as shown in the guide. Following that, return to the mansion and talk to Olivia & Minnie together.
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By Allgorhythm on 26 Apr 2021 12:25
Thank you. When I went to the computer I was thinking that would end the mission. But that was what unlocked the elevator, I was going on minimal sleep from the day before and old memories of prior play throughs. Once I did that I was golden. Thanks again.
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By O Corpo on 26 Apr 2021 17:32
Thank you. When I went to the computer I was thinking that would end the mission. But that was what unlocked the elevator, I was going on minimal sleep from the day before and old memories of prior play throughs. Once I did that I was golden. Thanks again.
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By O Corpo on 26 Apr 2021 18:08
@JakThaRiPP3R84; it would be considered a quest item and not junk. I have now played the DLC from the beginning three times each time getting all endings. I have noted significant differences in the dialog choices depending on what I do or don't do during the course of play. Accordingly, I have edited the solution and now refer to the child's drawing in more general terms. I now believe it requires a trigger and is not required for the solution although, if you have it, the conversation is expedited towards the desired outcome. Thanks for pointing this out.
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By Allgorhythm on 11 Sep 2020 22:10
Yeah, no idea what this child's drawing thing is, I've done this one X1 and Win 10 and all you need it 150 persuasion. Go to Minnie first and after fighting your way to her, in dialogue you can use 3 persuasion dialogue options of 65/100/150, then sh ewill agree to meet with Olivia, then go to Olivia, fight your way to her and in the dialogue with her you can persuade her with a 45 persuasion dialogue option and she'll agree to meet at the manor. Then go back to the manor and speak with them both and the achievement will unlock.
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By Scotty#6895 on 12 Sep 2020 10:52
JUSTTHINKSD &Scotty x360a; Appreciate your comments and I have acknowledged your insight in the most recent edit. As I said in the solution, I rushed to post it because of questions I was receiving and I apologize for the resulting inaccuracies which, hopefully, have now all been rectified. You are correct. You must go to Minnie first and Olivia second. The drawing only appears if it is triggered. If it is acquired, it will be a dialog option, but is definitely not required for the achievement.
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By Allgorhythm on 12 Sep 2020 21:41
After you talk to them and finish this ending, you can still go down to the basement and enact the NDA protocol. Not particularly useful, but it is an option.
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By Capn Beav on 01 May 2021 01:46
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*MISSABLE*
 
This achievement is one of the three for the three main endings of this DLC, with the other two being "Greenlight Protocol" and "NDA Protocol." In order to achieve all three on a single playthrough, make a manual save at the start of the final main quest, 'The Ambrose Connection,' so you can reload it for each ending. 
 
The first two endings, for "Greenlight Protocol" and "NDA Protocol," are very straightforward to achieve: simply side with Minnie for one and the Mysterious Figure (avoiding spoilers here) for the other, reloading your save in between. The third ending, which requires you to achieve a compromise between the two, requires a bit more work. Firstly, before attempting it, you'll need to have Persuade at 150. The easiest and quickest way to do this is to go inside your ship and respec your skill points so you can max out Persuade. If you don't want to do that, your other option is to boost that skill with things such as consumables, the Chimera and Nice Hat from a base game achievement (each of which raises your Persuade by 10), bring along allies that improve Persuade, or purchase the perks that raise dialog skills when solo. 
 
With that ready, once you collect the journal you'll be given two objective markers: either the Ambrose Manor or the SMC. Head to the Manor first where you'll find Minnie and need to persuade her. Shortly into the conversation you'll get the dialogue option "what if you and your mother joined forces to cure the marauders?" Select this option. From there, you'll have Persuade options for 65, 100, and then 150. Lastly, choose "Opportunities present themselves every day, your Gorgon will come" followed by "This isn't failure, this is a second chance to work with Olivia." You have now successfully convince Minnie to work with Olivia. 
 
Now head to SMC and fight/sneak your way down to the reactor until you meet up with Olivia. From there, make sure you choose the following dialogue options:
 
  • Whoa, hold on! I'm here to make peace! 
  • Let's take it down a notch. 
  • Your daughter's agreed to a compromise. 
  • [Persuade 45] You don't. You just have to trust me. 
  • She said you were invited to tea? 
  • Explain. 
  • So you'll work with Minnie. 
Now all that remains is to return to the Ambrose Manor and talk to the two of them. After the conversation, this achievement will unlock.
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To get this ending, after you collect Olivia's diary and make a video call on board the hopeless, you need to go to the Ambrose estate and talk to Minnie, convincing her to work with her mother, I will make a persuasion check with a save of 65p 100p and 150p, then go to the lab to Olivia, she will have 2 checks for 45p persuasion/intimidation, talk to her and then run to meet both ladies.
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