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Full Crew

Full Crew

Bring all possible allies to Kaer Morhen for the battle against the Hunt.

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How to unlock the Full Crew achievement in The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt - Definitive Guide

This achievement is easily missable. Once you finish Main Quest: Ugly Baby, Secondary Quest: Brothers in Arms will automatically begin.

I will make sure to avoid spoilers other than the fact that these people are in the game, so you can read on safely.

The quest sends you to collect allies. Each ally you collect is tied to a quest which you must complete in order to send them to Kaer Morhen to help in the battle. You must complete the quest and convince them to go.

The achievement will unlock immediately after the final person agrees to go to Kaer Morhen. If you think you've got everyone and haven't had the achievement pop, you're missing someone.

The allies, and their quests, are below (Letho is optional, since it's possible he's dead due to events in Witcher 2):

Velen
- Letho - Reardon Manor (near Lindenvale) - complete Secondary Quest: The Fall of House Reardon
- Keira Metz - complete Secondary Quest: For the Advancement of Learning, telling her to go to Kaer Morhen (as of patch 1.10, according to comments you do not need to recruit her though another says you must)

Novigrad
- Vernan Roche and Ves - Temeria Partisan Hideout - complete Secondary Quest: An Eye for an Eye
- Zolton Chivay - Rosemary and Thyme - just ask!
- Triss Merigold - complete Main Quest: Now or Never

Skellige
- Hjalmar an Craite - Kaer Trolde - ask whoever is ruler
- Ermion - Gedyneith - just ask!

The following will not come with you even when you ask them - they can be safely ignored:

- Emperor Emhyr Var Emreis
- Sigismund Dijkstra
- Crach an Craite
- Cerys an Craite (If you speak to her and she is ruler, she will send Hjalmar)
- Folan and Vigi - Go with Hjalmar

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When you get the Brothers in Arms quest.
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By Eurydace on 30 May 2015 18:00
when will I be able to ask Zoltan about it? do I have to finish a certain quest?
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By OOOHHH YEAAHHH on 30 May 2015 18:38
Just answered that for you :)
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By Eurydace on 30 May 2015 18:51
when will I be able to ask Zoltan about it? do I have to finish a certain quest?
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By OOOHHH YEAAHHH on 30 May 2015 18:57
idk why it keeps posting that 0_o
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By OOOHHH YEAAHHH on 30 May 2015 18:58
laugh
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By Eurydace on 30 May 2015 19:01
Hit refresh on the page without leaving and it will repost for you.
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By Fuzzmeister J on 30 May 2015 20:16
Does this pop once all necessary members are recruited or later on in the story?
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By on 30 May 2015 20:51
As soon as the last says yes!
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By Eurydace on 30 May 2015 21:00
I read somewhere else that in order to recruit Keira later, you HAVE to tell her to go to Kaer Morhen instead of what she intends to do after the quest. Not sure though if it's indeed required, but makes sense (trying not to spoil anything here).
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By SiegfriedX on 21 May 2015 05:18
I'm about to play that part do I'll make note.
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By Eurydace on 21 May 2015 12:49
Does Roche still appear if during your recounts of the events of Witcher 2 that you sided with Ioreveth? And what about Letho if you told them that you killed him?
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By Foxfire49 on 23 May 2015 13:19
Letho is dead if you say you killed him (that's why he's optional). Roche will still appear. Just has different dialogue. He's in Novigrad.
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By Eurydace on 23 May 2015 15:56
hey man, if you want to add here is a Poweroyx video showing how to get all of them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWAmuDCJtjM
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By I RENAN I on 24 May 2015 11:43
Good idea.
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By Eurydace on 24 May 2015 17:32
Told triss I love her and she just walked away and got on the ship wtf? Goodbye achievement
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By Conor x420a on 25 May 2015 19:27
My bad I thought that was the end of the cutscenes
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By Conor x420a on 25 May 2015 19:40
Welp... guess I wont be getting this achievement in this playthrough :/ I already did Keira Mets quest and didn't tell her to go to Kaer Morhen.
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By Clap That Fool on 25 May 2015 22:55
Crach an Craite is worth talking to as he gives you a very good steel sword that does 191-233 damage.
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By a44Special on 26 May 2015 00:23
You don't have to tell Triss you love her. I didn't but completed all her quests and she showed. I did kiss her at the party, though.
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By Malazan on 26 May 2015 09:20
Yes.
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By Eurydace on 26 May 2015 23:57
Vigi died in my game so once I get around to finishing it I'll let you know
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By Poopdog M60Riot on 27 May 2015 07:50
SPOILERS:


If Keira decides to make a deal with the king she ends up being burned at the stake. You have to tell her to go to Kaer Morhen.
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By Tower Bridge on 27 May 2015 13:40
Just popped this achievement with Vigi dead, so I assume Folan isn't required either.
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By GenericCow on 28 May 2015 04:55
I didn't kiss Triss and allowed her to leave, she still turned up at Kaer Morhen. I think as long as you help her she'll turn up regardless
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By MattyJWest on 28 May 2015 12:17
"I killed Keira on Fyke island...does this mean i'm screwed for my current playtrough?"

You really needed to ask? laugh not having a pop but that's f'n hilarious.

Nah she turns into a lustwraith and humps her way to Kaer Morhen wink

Nice one for the list.
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By AG Bucky Barnes on 29 May 2015 12:33
Would have been nice to know this pops right after you recruit the last person :/ was expecting it to pop later
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By Poopdog M60Riot on 30 May 2015 01:25
It says so in the achievement solution!
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By Eurydace on 30 May 2015 01:37
I know some people have said you can let Triss go on the ship and you can still get this achievement later, but I'm still scared to do it lol. Can some other people confirm that you don't need to romance Triss? It'll make me feel better.
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By on 30 May 2015 15:32
Just don't finish now or never. Keep playing until you get the Brothers in Arms quest. Ask everyone else, save, and then have Triss get on the boat. See if it pops.
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By Eurydace on 30 May 2015 16:30
when will I be able to ask Zoltan about it? do I have to finish a certain quest?
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By OOOHHH YEAAHHH on 30 May 2015 17:54
Can confirm, I killed keira as well and got the cheevo after patch 1.10
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By muto on 10 Oct 2015 21:10
Yip chevo just popped for me as well despite killing Keira.
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By GavInxs on 21 Oct 2015 20:57
You're good to go either way.
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By Eurydace on 31 May 2015 18:17
He's not alive in your game world then. He'll never appear. That's why he's optional!
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By Eurydace on 03 Jun 2015 15:09
To be clear: The option for asking zoltan to go to Kaer Morhen is when the quest Brothers in Arms becomes available? I'm also wondering the same, for the persons in Kaer Trolde, if the option to invite them to Morhen also only becomes available when the Bro in Arms quest is also available. Thanks in advance.

Wondering if something might've fouled up since ive done part of Ugly Baby quest before finishing recruiting them.
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By IGutlessIWonder on 09 Jun 2015 03:21
Yes. Only Kiera is missable like that.
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By Eurydace on 09 Jun 2015 03:49
Only Keira? Thanks. Already sent her there like 2weeks ago (real time), there's so much to do in this game.
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By IGutlessIWonder on 09 Jun 2015 17:13
The others you do need to complete the listed side quest still!
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By Eurydace on 09 Jun 2015 18:08
If you didn't kiss her and let her leave on the boat, you can get the achievement : I just did, and it's a relief.
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By DEF Exeio on 10 Jun 2015 00:35
Ive just finished the Skellige sub plot, and that was my last of the side missions u listed in ur solution. Thanks, now I can finish Ugly Baby to get Brothers in Arms quest whenever.
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By IGutlessIWonder on 10 Jun 2015 00:37
Just an fyi; this is 1 of several Achievements in this bug-ridden game that didn't pop on screen for me, but did show as completed under my Xbox Achievement history.....gotta hate that junk.
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By Daelus1 on 10 Jun 2015 18:05
Does anyone know if i can not get this because I got into a fight with kiera Mintz and killed her on accident and kept playing without realizing about this cheivo?
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By foREVer7fold on 19 Jun 2015 02:27
You've missed it then cry
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By Eurydace on 19 Jun 2015 02:52
Damn... Thank you though eurydace
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By foREVer7fold on 19 Jun 2015 05:17
Just finished the game and checked what the secret achievements were and found I'd messed this one up about 80 hours of gameplay ago.
Eugh at missable achievements in 100+ hour games!
Thanks for the guide though, I'll defo use it whenever I play through it again.
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By mkdfan on 21 Jun 2015 01:39
Try looking on a different floor of the castle. She's either up one or down one.
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By Eurydace on 22 Jun 2015 01:03
I didn't play Witcher 2 on this account, so I (if I remember correctly) let the game pick what world events happened, Letho didn't appear in the quest but I got the acheivement, fortunately. Thanks for the info.
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By Zarhin on 22 Jun 2015 21:33
Just to be sure. What if Vigi was killed by the ice troll. Is he required for the achievement to unlock? thanks
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By Desosav on 24 Jun 2015 13:57
I'm told he is not in the comments here. It should still unlock. I'm not personally 100% certain though. The official guide says he is required, but it was wrong in numerous places so you can't take its word as sacred.
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By Eurydace on 24 Jun 2015 14:47
Hey eury, just a small correction. Ermion is found in Gedyneith on the right most fast travel (there are 2 there). As soon as you spawn in, he is in the cave right in front of you.
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By B0WM4NX on 26 Jun 2015 03:49
Thanks smile
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By Eurydace on 26 Jun 2015 04:05
I can confirm that this achievement can be unlocked even if Vigi gets killed by the ice troll smile
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By Desosav on 29 Jun 2015 12:32
I stumbled across Undvik hours ago, before unlocking the quest for Hjalmar, and I think I let Folan die. Is he definitely not necessary?
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By Frankie DrumsNY on 01 Jul 2015 00:07
He shouldn't be.
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By Eurydace on 01 Jul 2015 00:39
I didn't tell Triss to stay but I still got the achievement... Lol
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By TatiTheFreaK on 13 Jul 2015 09:14
Can you let Sigi rule Novigrad and still get this achievement, since he kills Roche?
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By k0ngzor on 07 Aug 2015 16:59
you should probably mention that you need to do the subplot with possession and the assisting quests beforehand as that is not main story
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By SprinkyDink on 10 Aug 2015 01:46
Like others, I'm kinda nervous about the fact that Triss left. It seems like there is enough confirmation here that she will still show up, though. I did not tell her I loved her and she left on the ship.
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By XI AlphaMale IX on 05 Oct 2015 22:21
Got it today after downloading the latest update...DOnt know why because I killed Keira Metz and did not deserve the achievement...anyone having the same "luck"?
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By TONI III04 on 10 Oct 2015 09:52
Just got to the point where you talk to everyone. Achievement didn't pop for me and I had killed Keira (whoops!). When was the achievement popping for everyone else who killed her?
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By Cruezilla on 04 Jan 2016 00:19
Killed keira as well and did not get the achievement. Maybe it does not pop anymore in 1.11 and it was only a bug in 1.10?
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By magiccigam on 05 Jan 2016 06:53
It worked perfectly +1 toast
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By Apocalypse Kane on 21 Feb 2016 02:21
I killed Kiera and never talked to Letho, even if he was still alive in my game. But they never gave me the quest to recruit him. So either alive or dead, he's optional anyway? He still joined my team and I never asked him. Fuck Keira. She left me no choice. What she was doing was wrong... so screw this achievement...
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By CM Trance on 08 Apr 2016 21:10
Thanks, worked great :D
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By Kennyannydenny on 30 Apr 2016 14:48
Guess I'll be doing this on NG+ :(
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By IsThisDustin on 29 May 2016 18:47
Is now or never after "A matter of life and death?!"
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By Senseless Ogre on 08 Jun 2016 05:33
Iirc, yes.
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By Eurydace on 08 Jun 2016 12:28
Is now or never after "A matter of life and death?!"
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By Senseless Ogre on 08 Jun 2016 21:13
I am running the new update. Recruited Kiera, Letho, Triss, Zoltan, Vernon/Ves, Hjalmar, and Ermion in that order. Kiera, Letho and Triss were recruited on update 1.20. The achievement didn't unlock...
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By Cursed#7068 on 23 Jun 2016 14:18
The order doesn't matter. If you're sure you have everything then it's just delayed for you. In the achievement app it should say "done.. unlocking" for like 1-2 days.
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By IllustriousYeti on 24 Jun 2016 00:15
I think the game has diddled me out of this achievement unfairly. I had all the possible allies at Kaer Morhen (including Letho) because I followed this quide to the word, and all the Brothers in Arms missions were completed, with all the objectives green ticked.

The only possible thing I can think of that could have nulled the achievement was that Dijkstra refused to lend financial support because of choices I made during the robbery investigation, but everywhere I've checked say he's not important. Also the Brothers in Arms: Velen quest automatically completed because I'd already sent Keira and Letho to Kaer Morhen.

Pretty pissed off to be honest.
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By Tanookify on 19 Sep 2016 09:19
I have the same issue.
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By a Leppo UwU on 03 Dec 2016 10:36
Ok I just reloaded a older save an spoke again to all and got the achievement.
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By a Leppo UwU on 03 Dec 2016 10:49
Achievement didn't pop for me. I'm pretty sure Letho was dead but can't remember the responses I gave at the start of the game (although I didn't bump into him during the manor quest).

I should note that I started this game in March and its had two pretty major patches since. I wonder if its had an effect on it at all, The horse racing achievement also didn't unlock for me.
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By SirDavideo on 12 Dec 2016 10:19
If letho is dead i don't think he's needed for it. See if it says "done.. unlocking" because i've never heard of them being glitched
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By IllustriousYeti on 12 Dec 2016 18:57
Just checked all secret achievements on my phone and it still says "locked". Maybe it was just a hiccup with my Xbox. I have a save pre isles of Mists (but after recruiting everyone) so may go back and do Kaer Morehen again to see if it pops.
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By SirDavideo on 13 Dec 2016 09:35
I completed For the Advancement of Learning but never got The Fall of House Reardon. Also, I failed Brothers in Arms: Velen immediately after receiving the quest. Maybe I killed Keira? I don't remember.
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By Apostle92627 on 30 Mar 2017 00:04
I'm not sure if this is a help to anyone but I did all of Triss's missions before doing ugly baby and brothers in arms, when it came time for her to leave I asked her to stay but she refused ,however I've just completed brothers in arms and the achievement popped , not sure if this helps , but it may , having played this version and currently playing the goty version I'm finding some of the achievements aren't unlocking including killing two witcher contracts without buffs and the Kiera Metz quest so I think there might be still a few bugs in this game . Happy Gaming headspin
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By spikeylizard on 30 Mar 2017 14:46
I cant talk to Zoltan. The brothers in arms Novigrad doesnt appear as completed, but im sure i complete this quest. Can i find zoltan somewhere else? Also, if i go to Kaer Morhen i can see who i recruited for?
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By GV Loc on 02 Apr 2017 11:29
Brothers in Arms: Velen automatically failed for me when I got the Brothers in Arms quests, because I killed Keira Metz earlier in the game. I got everyone else, but no cheevo for me :C I believe this is v1.21
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By kiasano on 06 Jul 2017 08:03
Looks like if you let Keira go out on her own you lose out on this achievement. Make sure you invite her to Kaer Mohren at the end of her plotline. I didn't and Brothers in Arms: Velen immediately failed. Dang.
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By Ubula on 20 Aug 2017 23:30
You kinda dicked a lot of people over by saying in the comments that they should try not to complete Now or Never or that Truss is missable if you don't say "I love you".

You should probably be a little more clear on this. I know it's old, but still. You just have to complete her quests and that's it. She'll show up at Kaer Mohren if you complete Now or Never, regardless of if she stays.
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By PhilTheStampede on 04 Feb 2018 01:09
This didn't unlock for me so I hard reset my Xbox, loaded an earlier save and re-completed the last recruitment mission. Popped right away. Its worth saving beforehand just incase you need to do the same!
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By Djshep on 16 Mar 2018 00:20
Didn't pop for me, I had to quit the game, restart my Xbox and then load a gamesave just before the last reruit (that was hajlmar for me). Talk to him and the achievement unlock right away. It's not the first time I have to restart and load for a buggy achievement on this game
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By Riy4d on 02 Jun 2018 17:45
I can confirm, on my end at least, that I didn't have to travel to Velen to recruit Keira. I slept with her, and convinced her to go to the Witcher's fortress when I took on her quest line. However, later on in the game, the moment the Brothers In Arms questline popped up, it immediately said I completed the Velen portion without me having to do anything extra.
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By The SCHWARTZ 00 on 14 Jul 2018 21:56
Hi everyone! I can confirm it works on New Game + too. if the cheevo did not pop for u after u recruit the last person, just restart ur Xbox and load right before u talk to the last person, and the achievement should unlock!
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By TB4CO on 18 Jan 2020 20:38
It didn't unlock for me. I didn't have Keira Metz. Game version is 1.60 and both DLC installed.
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By jantrance on 20 Apr 2021 15:38
I'm 99% sure that Letho is NOT required for this achievement.
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By Jet Klaatu on 18 Jun 2021 02:52
I don’t remember rounding everyone up as I thought I let Letho die. But, after talking with Roche, the achievement popped for me. This is my second full playthrough although I left a long time between so the software version would be different. So, maybe it’s popping because of recruiting everyone across my saves? 🤷🏻‍♂️
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By IAmJackSlade on 27 Jul 2020 22:31
Anyone know what happens if you clear one of the recruitment quest but Havant reached the point where brothers in arms is unlocked. Does it mess anything up?
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By True Marvellous on 31 May 2015 17:45
I finished the Fall of the House of Reardon and haven't seen Letho. I am not to the brother's in arms quest - does that have to be active for him to be there or did I just miss him and need to look harder?
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By SallyNasty on 03 Jun 2015 14:26
Having trouble finding Cerys. I did the Kingmaker quest line to completion. She was coronated. Then I progressed the main plot until Brothers in Arms became available. Now "Talk to Cerys" quest marker has me looking at a wall in Kaer Troide. Can't seem to figure out where she is. Everyone is posting videos of talking to her during the coronation but it wasn't an option for me at that time because I had not progressed the main story enough. Where does she hang out after she is elected? Thanks.
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By bryan dot exe on 22 Jun 2015 00:49
I didn't kill Keira but also didn't ask her to join me in Kaer Morhen (the third option where I said something like it was her choice). The quest Brothers in Arms: Velen is marked as failed and I didn't get the achievement. I assume the 1.10 patch only pops if you killed her and didn't leave her alive like I did. angry
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By SharkFanMI on 25 Nov 2015 19:40
^ I'm pretty sure I remember ghosts of the past and the fall of house reardon are picked up from a village's notice board. One of them possibly from a woman in the village.
Keira was a bit of a cunt for manipulating Geralt, yes but the fact that she's willing to go and stay at Kaer Morhen says something about her loyalty. A lot of things she said were genuine, and she manipulated him for a pretty damn good reason, though she was foolish enough to believe Radovid wouldn't kill her.
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By IllustriousYeti on 09 Apr 2016 22:00
Definitely buggy...this didn't pop for me the first time. I quit the game, restarted my Xbox, and reloaded a save from the start of the Brothers in Arms quests. Also not sure if it makes a difference, but whereas originally I did an order where Emhyr (a refusal) was the last person I asked, this time I asked all the refusals early and had Ermion (an acceptance) be the last person I asked.
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By DenverMax27 on 06 Jul 2020 16:11
Although this is an old topic, I also had to replay this one as it was bugged for me in the first run. Second run I didn't skipped the dialogues, maybe that is an issue as well
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By CommanderKeen11 on 10 Apr 2021 19:46
Damn it...already did the quest with Triss but cant recall what i told her exactly, but she did get on the ship. I recruited my last ally but no achievement. Then again i already had 2 other ones bugged.
Never mind bugged achievements, but who was the asshole that thought it'd be a good idea to have achievements that you need to spoil the damn story for to avoid having to replay a 200 hour game?
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By F TANK on 16 Aug 2017 07:40
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This trophy takes a bit of pre-planning from pretty much the very moment you enter Velen(aka No Man's Land). If you've progressed past a point of a important decision, there's no returning unless you just happen to have a save there.

There'll be some hefty spoilers ahead, but for the sake of clarity(especially in Keira Metz's case) I'll have to mention them, since some of the folks that you can get as allies have quest lines with some incredibly hard to detect outcomes.

And one thing before we set off here, the trophy pops as soon as you finish speaking with the last person in your Brothers in Arms quest, some of the people here will be determined to go to Kaer Morhen before this quest takes place so they won't need to be talked to.

For the sake of completion, I'm listing all possible allies even though you need only 7: Keira Metz, Vernon Roche & Ves, Triss Merigold, Zoltan Chivay, Ermion and Hjalmar an Craite.

KEIRA METZ - During Act I in Velen - #1
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In order to get Keira on your team, you need to do her entire quest line in Velen's bogs. The quests An Invitation from Keira Metz and A Favor for a Friend are a given in her chain(whether or not you sleep with her isn't important), the important bit comes in at the end of For the Advancement of Learning:

She'll come up with the idea to present what she's found to Radovid in Novigrad, you'll get three options to answer her with:
Tell her its suicide, she'll give the more feisty reply and begin getting upset about the state of her living accommodations, tell her "Go to Kaer Morhen" and finish with "See you at Kaer Morhen", simple as that. She sets off and you'll spot her later post Isle of Mists in Kaer Morhen.

If you let her go to Radovid, you'll find her later in the story during Novigrad: Closed City burning at a stake. And the more violent sounding option of "can't let you do that" leads to combat with Keira, so obviously this option will not get her support as well... as she's dead.

LETHO - During Act I in Velen - Only if Letho lives in your save.
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So this one is tricky, Letho only counts if he lives in your save state. If you chose "I let him live" in regards to Letho during the shave-n'-cut in Vizima to Morvran Voorhis during Imperial Audience, the quest Ghosts of the Past becomes available.

The quest's climax is again where the choices matter; make sure you either interfere Vester and kick his ass or let him and his buddies leave without taking Letho's head but his amulet instead.

Interfering is the safer option in the end and gives some lewts, anyway after the guy is dealt with, Letho reveals himself to be quite alive, you can now ask him if he wants to be welcomed back to Kaer Morhen, do so.

EMHYR VAR EMREIS - During Act II in Vizima
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Easy one, just pop by the Vizima castle during Brothers in Arms: Nilfgaard and speak to good ol' King Deathstare Grumpypants. He'll be the usual wrench in the works in terms of actually giving help, but in the end he pulls through and counts as an ally.

VERNON ROCHE & VES - During Act I in Novigrad - #2 and 3
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You'll be referenced to these two through your search for Ciri in Novigrad a few times and after doing Roche's quest for meeting King Radovid V, he'll have a quest available in which you go after Ves, who's run off to save a village from Nilfgaardians, This quest, An Eye for an Eye has to be completed in order for them to be eligible during Brothers in Arms: Novigrad. Speak to him during that quest and he'll happily join you at Kaer Morhen along with his partner in war, Ves.

Thanks to jason_ex for the correction that whether you kill or let the Nilfgaardian survivor go doesn't affect Ves' willingness to join Roche.

ZOLTAN CHIVAY - During Act I in Novigrad - #4
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Zoltan is always ready to fight by Geralts side, just speaking with him at the Rosemary and Thyme/Chameleon makes him an ally.

SIGISMUND "SIGI" DIJKSTRA - During Act I in Novigrad
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Another Keira Metz situation, you need to fulfill very specific conditions for him to offer help. The choices you make during the quest Count Reuven's Treasure are the ones that make the difference, specifically during the segment where you deliver Triss Merigold to Caleb Menge and his Witch Hunters. You can ruin this by just having a sharp tongue, so be sure to follow the instructions:

1: Upon getting to the Witch Hunters Stronghold, you'll be greeted by a Witch Hunter, keep your cool and basically be cold to them about Triss. They say they're gonna rip her fingernails off, just agree and let them. Saying there won't be any ripping leads to a big fight.

2: When following the hunter, stay right on him, don't loot anything or deviate from his trail, they'll take your curiousity as a hostile nosy act and your infiltration plan fails.

3: At the top of the stairs the torturer will be taking Triss, answer "Fine, take her" and it goes on as usual.

4: You'll now be seated with Caleb Menge, during the following chat you'll have to answer with these:

Menge makes you drink from a silver goblet to make sure you're not a doppler, say "Why not."

Kurt's being told to leave the room and Menge further questions you about your wits and whatnot while Triss' torturing begins, when the dialogue choices come up say:
"Your hunters are torturing Triss, but I haven't been paid."

He then goes on about your motivations in regards to turning Triss in to start with, either one of the answers works:
"Triss betrayed me first." or "Witchers do anything for gold."

He'll be praising your gutsy attitude soon after and bring up Phillipa Eilhart, at the last dialogue choice here say:
"Free my friend Dandelion."

5: Now **** hits the fan, you and Menge go to investigate the torture room as it went quiet, Triss got free and gains the upper hand on Menge, stabbing him clean through the chin, killing him. Talk to Triss, take the key and walk back to Menge's office. Sneak out through the balcony door at the back of the room and just carry on with the quest.

That's the whole "subterfuge" way that Dijkstra demands for all of this to be good and dandy. During Brothers in Arms: Novigrad, he won't actually be of much help but still won't make you leave empty-handed.

TRISS MERIGOLD - During Act I in Novigrad - #5
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The quest Now or Never has to be started and done for her to go to Kaer Morhen, and you gotta be nice to her about it too. Be supportive in dialogue choices for most the start of the quest, such as answering I will when being asked if you'll help right now.

The choice that matters is again at the end of the quest:
Triss is adamant about going with the mages on the ship, you need to tell her "Stay with me" when the opportunity arises.

She'll say she can't, and won't do it. Now you'll get three options, choose "I love you." She still goes, after a bit of a cheer up from Sigi Dijkstra, Triss will suddenly be back. Make sure you answer nice and politely, saying you like her changeability won't get you anywhere.

You'll go look at the boats from the lighthouse and do a bit of motherboating of your own. This prompts Triss to stay in Novigrad and automatically make her way to Kaer Morhen during Brothers in Arms: Novigrad.

EDIT: As of update 1.02:
Triss will be invited to Kaer Mohren during Brothers in Arms by Yennifer if you let her go during Now or Never and shows up anyway, hurray for no forced love!

CRACH AN CRAITE - During Act I in Skellige
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Meeting with Crach is fruitless in terms of manpower, but he does give you a nice steel blade of legendary status called "Winter's Blade".

CERYS AN CRAITE - During Act I in Skellige
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Complete the quests "Possession" where you free Udalryk's mind of a Hym, "King's Gambit"(pick looking for clues in the hall with Cerys to ensure her becoming queen) and "Coronation".

It's very important that you retrieve enough evidence to support the an Craite clan against Lady Bran, eventually her son will testify against her and she'll be outcast. If you decide to not help either Cerys or Hjalmar, Svanrige Bran will be crowned King and you will not have any allies from Skellige's royal house for Kaer Morhen.

After her crowning coronation, speak to her in Kaer Trolde, she'll say her duties prevent her from helping personally but her brother Hjalmar sure as hell will be up for the bloodshed, see Hjalmar's entry below for more information.

HJALMAR AN CRAITE - During Act I in Skellige - #6
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Complete the quest "The Lord of Undvik", and then the path will merge onto Cerys' path. You can choose to help her instead of Hjalmar or go with Hjalmar on his blood craving revenge quest during "King's Gambit", either way whoever ends up being crowned during "Coronation" isn't very important in regards to Hjalmar's status as an ally, he'll always be up for kicking some ass in your name.

Just go and chat him up in Kaer Trolde during Brothers in Arms and ask for his help.

FOLAN & VIGI - During Act I in Skellige
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These two are optional but still nice to have, they're both part of Hjalmar's hunting party that got wrecked and marooned on Undvik with him during "The Lord of Undvik". During the quest, first head to the Abandoned Village west from Marlin's Coast and find Folan in the troll cave a bit north. He's currently being boiled alive so make a manual save before instigating conversation with the ice trolls.

They strike a deal with you, beat their riddle with your wits and Folan is yours. You got ten seconds to answer the riddle or he boils alive, the trolls still give you a second chance for a riddle if you mess up the answer on the first one but Folan will still boil alive, sadly.

Riddle #1: "A troll".
Second riddle? Well that doesn't matter, Folan'll be boiling like a egg by this point.

In regards to Vigi, it's quite simple. Just progress to the end of the quest and you'll find him in a cage near the mountain giant. Say you'll free him and you'll be allowed to walk around to find the key.

The key is in a chest near the giant, be sure not to walk on any of the ice patches or sprint in general so the big guy doesn't wake up. Loot the key, set Vigi free and he'll go running at the giant like a maniac but at least he's alive.

Failed to get the key without waking the giant up? Well, bad news. He'll crush and kill Vigi during the second stage of the fight where he rips the anchor from the makeshift prison Vigi's in.

Once you rescue both Folan and Vigi, they'll automatically come with Hjalmar during Brothers in Arms: Skellige.

ERMION - During Act I in Skellige - #7
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Easiest for last, while you're chatting to Cerys and/or Hjalmar, pop by Ermion(he's either in Kaer Trolde with the rest or at the druids over at Gedyneith) and ask for his help. He immediately says yes and makes way for Kaer Morhen during Brothers in Arms: Skellige.


And that's all, the required seven plus all the optional ones. As I said, the trophy pops once you chat to the last person who'll agree to go to Kael Morhen.
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21 Jul 2015 00:26

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Just wanted to say that you DO NOT have to let Ves kill the Nilfgaardian soldier during "Eye for an Eye". I had let him go before reading this guide and had resigned myself to the fact that this Trophy would be unobtainable on my current run. However, I just spoke to Roche during "Brothers in Arms: Novigrad", and the Trophy unlocked.
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Just thought I'd put this out there in case anyone else was worried that they'd have to restart their game!
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By darlingnobaka on 17 Jan 2016 23:24
Thanks for letting me know, I'll edit it now!
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By Lt_McBadass on 18 Jan 2016 15:25

Before the solution for this achievement is presented, it must be stated right now that this is a HIGHLY MISSABLE achievement.

During Act II, you will receive four main quests entitled "Brothers in Arms [Nilfgaard, Velen, Novigrad, & Skellige]" after the main story quest entitled "Va Fail, Elaine" has been completed and you are about to set sail for the Isle of Mists. It is at this point where you're asked to recruit allies for the upcoming battle against The Wild Hunt in Act III. You must complete a series of lengthy side quests and subplots to recruit everyone needed, which is probably going to take several hours. On top of this, Keira Metz and Triss Merigold can be recruited before reaching this point in the game and both sorceresses are the easiest of the seven allies to miss.

There are a few prerequisites when assembling your party of allies, some of which you may already have already completed, or failed. A list of all possible allies and their prerequisites can be found below.

Kiera Metz

  • Return to Kiera's Hut in No Man's Land, and speak with her. She's happy to provide magical support in the forthcoming battle, providing you have helped her. Complete the following:
    • Side Quest: An Invitation from Kiera Metz/A Towerful of Mice
    • Side Quest: A Favor for a Friend
    • Side Quest: For the Advancement of Learning
      • At the end of this quest, be sure to convince Kiera to go to Kaer Morhen

Vernon Roche & Ves

  • Locate Roche's hideout northeast of Oxenfurt. He is always willing to help, but he (and Ves) can only make the journey to Kaer Morhen once you finish the following:
    • Side Quest: An Eye for an Eye
      • Once finished, Roche agrees to help you, and both him and Ves will appear in Kaer Morhen.

Zoltan Chivay

  • Zoltan is eager to aid the cause and agrees to help you. All you have to do is ask, so head to his location at the Rosemary and Thyme (Novigrad).

Triss Merigold

  • Triss would love to help, but she cannot leave Novigrad until all the mages are evacuated. You must have already completed the following:
    • Main Quest: Now or Never, and the mages escape
      • If you forgot this quest, you can't reach Triss.
      • If you completed this quest properly, Triss is already at Kaer Morhen, and doesn't need to be asked at all, even when she leaves at the end of the quest.

Hjalmar an Craite

  • Speak with Hjalmar in Kaer Trolde or at the Coronation. If he rules Skellige, he will aid your cause, and will arrive at Kaer Morhen without question. If Cerys was made ruler instead, she agrees to send him as a representative. To ensure he or his sister becomes ruler, you must complete the following:
    • Side Quest: The Lord of Undvik
    • Side Quest: King's Gambit
    • Side Quest: Coronation

Ermion

  • Like Zoltan, Ermion immediately agrees to help defeat The Wild Hunt. Head over to Gedyneith in Ard Skellig to ask him, (he'll stay here after the "Coronation" side quest has concluded).

There are a few other allies that you can try convincing during the "Brothers in Arms" quests, but they're not necessary for this achievement. Thus, feel free to ignore seeking them out since you only need the seven allies listed above.

Here are a few other tips to keep in mind when working on this achievement:

  • You could end up killing Keira Metz if you make the wrong dialogue choices at the end of her subplot
    • To prevent that, refer to the video above for the "Friends With Benefits" achievement
  • Despite the information in video guide below, Triss DOES NOT need to be romanced nor asked to stay at the end of her side quest entitled, "Now or Never"
    • Although the game plays out as though Triss boards the ship to Kovir and will never return again, she appears at Kaer Morhen anyways (thanks to Yennefer) so long as you completed both of her side quests
  • If you choose the "third" dialogue choice during the "King's Gambit" side quest of the Kingmaker subplot and ignore helping Hjalmar or Cerys, you will walk away and neither of them will become ruler; thus meaning Hjalmar cannot be recruited at all
  • You could end up ignoring the "Brothers in Arms" quests entirely and go directly to the Isle of Mists, thus missing all possible allies

This is a lot to soak in, but just remember the only allies needed for this achievement are the seven detailed above. Once they've all been recruited, the achievement will unlock before setting sail to the Isle of Mists. Refer to PowerPyx's video below for even more information if necessary!

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*Missable Trophy*
There are 7 allies that you must recruit to earn this trophy. After doing the main quests in Kaer Morhen (towards the end of the story), you will receive a main mission called "The Isle of Mists" and 4 other "Brothers in Arms" quests. That's when you are supposed to recruit people for your upcoming battle in Kaer Morhen. You must play a series of lengthy side quests and subplots to recruit everyone, which is going to take several hours. Keira Metz and Triss can be recruited before reaching this point in the game. Keira Metz can be missed if you kill her, but Triss will show up in Kaer Morhen either way (doesn’t matter if she stays or sails away).

You need to recruit the following Allies:

  • Keira Metz (Velen, send her to Kaer Morhen at the end of her subplot instead of killing her. Her subplot consists of the side quest "An Invitation from Keira Metz", "A Towerful of Mice", "A Favor for a Friend", "For the Advancement of Learning. See Friends with Benefits for more details.)
  • Triss Merigold (Novigrad, complete her subplot. It starts with the side quest "A Matter of Life and Death" and ends with "Now or Never". It does not matter if she sails off at the end or stays. She’ll show up in Kaer Morhen either way)
  • Roche (Novigrad, complete side quest "An Eye for an Eye", then talk to Roche during Main Story Mission "Brothers in Arms: Novigrad" and he will come to Kaer Morhen)
  • Ves (Novigrad, complete side quest "An Eye for an Eye", then talk to Roche during Main Story Mission "Brothers in Arms: Novigrad" and he will bring Ves with him)
  • Zoltan Chivay (Novigrad, simply talk to him during Main Story Mission "Brothers in Arms: Novigrad")
  • Ermion (Skellige, simply talk to him during Main Story Mission "Brothers in Arms: Skellige")
  • Hjalmar (Skellige, complete the subplot about choosing Skellige's ruler to earn the Kingmaker trophy. The subplot consists of the side quests "Possession", "The Lord of Undvik", "King's Gambit". During King's Gambit you must choose whether to help either Hjalmar or Cerys, and it does not matter which one you side with. Talk to them once they are ruler and Hjalmar will come with you. If you don’t help either of them, someone else will become ruler and you’ll miss the trophy!


There are other characters that you can talk to during the "Brothers in Arms" quests. Also some that can be recruited from side quests, but they are optional and have no impact on the trophy at all! It does not matter if they die or if you talk to them or not, so feel free to skip them all. Cerys an Craite is only important if she becomes ruler of Skellige, then you must talk to her.

These characters are NOT needed, even though they are part of the "Brothers in Arms" questline or can be recruited otherwise:

  • Emperor Emhyr Var Emreis (Royal Palace of Vizima)
  • Letho (Velen)
  • Sigismund Dijkstra (Novigrad)
  • Folan (Skellige, during side quest "The Lord of Undvik")
  • Vigi (Skellige, during side quest "The Lord of Undvik")
  • Crach an Craite (Skellige)
  • Cerys an Craite (Skellige, should she become ruler of Skellige, you will need to talk to her and she will send Hjalmar to Kaer Morhen)


This is missable:
- You could end up killing Keira Metz if you make wrong dialogue choices at the end of her subplot.
- If you choose the third dialogue choice during the King's Gambit quest of the Kingmaker subplot you will walk away and neither Hjalmar, nor Cerys will become ruler. Then Hjalmar cannot be recruited anymore.
- You could ignore the Brothers in Arms story quests entirely and go directly to the Isle of Mists, thus missing all possible allies.

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I received the trophy, I’ll write down point by point which of the Persians I had when receiving the achievement:

1) Keira Metz (I’m not sure about her, it’s better to do it just in case) - completed a chain of her quests in the lands of Velen, in the final he persuaded her to go to Kaer Morhen

2) Triss Merigold - completed her chain of quests in Novigrad, when saying goodbye to the port, he chose any lines, this does not in any way affect her appearance in Kaer Morhen

3) Vernon Roche - completed his only side quest near Novigrad (please help with Bianca), in gratitude he will come to help in Kaer Morhen

4) Zoltan - completed his side quest in Novigrad to collect 3 (three) cards for gwent - the dwarf agrees to go to Kaer Morhen

We also need support from Skellige, for this we carry out the following quests on the islands: (request from Jarl Crach an Crait to go to the island and find his son, and the second quest is to help his daughter). We complete quests - we watch a video with the coronation of the new jarl of Skellige (either a brother or a sister, depending on our actions), and at the right moment we turn to them for help.

1) Krah an Krayt gave me the family sword

2) Keris (she became my queen) sends her brother to Kaer Morhen

3) Mousefur - agreed to go to Kaer Morhen (we intersect with him in a couple of story quests, in the dialogues I was simply not rude to him)

Dijkstra, Emhyr, and even more so I had no trace of Summer - the achievement was lost.
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30 May 2015 03:30

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You can skip it. Keira Metz is required to receive the trophy; killing her will not give you the achievement.
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By kellebro on 12 Jun 2015 06:37
Needed: Keira, Tris, Roche, Zoltan, Mousefur and one of the unkrites.

IMPORTANT: Keira needs to be dissuaded from collaborating with Rodovid, because if you just don’t kill her, she will be hanged!
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By lddun on 11 Jan 2016 10:04
By the way, if you help Dijkstra with his treasury (choose the correct dialogue options with the head of the witch hunters and ask about the treasury), then Dijkstra will give you 2 large rune stones and 1000 money as help.
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By himeo on 03 Jul 2015 22:08
No need to collect cards for Zolton.
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By Saturianin on 08 Jun 2015 11:24
I talk about this trophy in detail in my video guide at 20:31:

https://youtu.be/ngBmEloCcHg

The description contains timings for the remaining trophies
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By Zardarius on 06 Apr 2016 10:32
The main thing is to gather most of your friends, and who will be will vary depending on how you played.
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By Luxor32 on 11 Dec 2015 12:37
2) Triss Merigold - completed her chain of quests in Novigrad, when saying goodbye to the port, he chose any lines, this does not in any way affect her appearance in Kaer Morhen
Farewell has no effect, the main thing is to complete the quest chain.
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By matumbaW on 03 Feb 2017 14:25
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Enchantress Triss - at the end of the “now or never” quest, sending her to the ship YOU CAN choose ANY REPLICA, tested from personal experience, the trophy dropped.
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24 May 2015 14:28