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Fire and Ice

Fire and Ice

Complete the Patagonia Bush Trip, without using any navigation assistance.

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How to unlock the Fire and Ice achievement in Microsoft Flight Simulator - Definitive Guide

This is more of a guide to autopilot in this bush trip. Some of these may be easier to only autopilot some to get on course and then fly yourself. Autopilot will take you over some high mountains with a steep decline needed to reach the airport. The legs may be shorter, but expect to spend a little more time replaying them because crashing puts you in odd places like in the water and you have to restart.

To keep things a little cleaner, check my other guide for the Balkans bush trip for some more tips. I would assume you did that one first.
Microsoft Flight SimulatorAnemoiThe Anemoi achievement in Microsoft Flight Simulator worth 369 pointsComplete the Balkans Bush Trip, without using any navigation assistance.



-Click NRST Button
-Click the airport you want on the screen. (SAWL is the first leg) (Hold A to grab the scroll bar on the touch screen and move it down if needed)
-Click Insert into Flight Plan in the pop-up.
-Click Insert at End.
-Click the Direct To button to the right of NRST. (D with an arrow through it)
-Click Activate.
-Click the Nav button.
-Click the ALT SEL knob and set your altitude. I started at 2200.
-Click the VS button.
-Use the Vertical Speed Control knob to set your speed. -Click the center of the wheel so it's less likely to jump to a crazy number.

-Takeoff by increasing the throttle and press left on d-pad when prompted
-Get some height and press Y to engage autopilot. (You can still move the plane a little when turning on autopilot. The plane cuts it close changing course sometimes.)

-Now continue forward to the airport. The VFR map is the only place that shows the flight path with this plane. You can use the cockpit map to watch for how close you are to the airport. This cockpit map is better than the last one with a touch screen. It's much easier to figure out.

Just like the first bush trip, you will need to land manually. Also different, is there isn't a counter telling you how close you are to the airport. You will need to watch the map closer than before.

**If you do not get a completion screen and the game seems locked up with just a cursor, you will need to quit the game. It's still counted for me the few times it's happened. It's usually on a grass runway.

Like the other guide mentions, this thing will faceplant instantly. Do not hold X to stop the plane for more than 1 second. Turning the engines off has produced mixed results for me. If you crash on leg 1, you will need to taxi it around trees and take a long way to the airport because this game won't let you restart the first leg. Even knowing about it didn't stop it from happening

Altitude Notes:
Leg 1 - Mostly flat
Leg 2 - 4200 - The runway is closer than it looks after that mountain.
Leg 3 - 3900 - If 3900 isn't enough, it's time to descend and go a little to the left.
Leg 4 - 4500 - Go to the right of the big mountain and follow the river left.
Leg 5 - 3500
Leg 6 - It's sea-level
Leg 7 - Get to 3000 then mostly flat
Leg 8 - 7200 I tried going around the mountain, but there isn't a good way.
Leg 9 - 3600 Very hard to see. I landed close by and drove to it.
Leg 10 - 6500 - First mountain I had to go around. Approach the runway from the lake at the end.
Leg 11 - 7200. You can follow the river and not bother with going that high.
Leg 12 - 6100
Leg 13 - 8700 - I went around the taller mountain to easier approach the runway.
Leg 14 - I went around the mountains on this one. It's short and it's easier to follow the river to the runway than go over the mountains.
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08 Aug 2021 13:53

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This is a great guide but I'd like to add a few things. If you enable NAV when mentioned above it'll just disable when you enable AP, so make sure you look and turn NAV back on after enabling AP or you'll just fly straight to nowhere.
Depart -> Arrival - Elevation (that Fuzzmeister J provided)
Z00T -> SAWL - 2200
SAWL -> SAWO - 4200 (be careful, there are two airports very close together here)
SAWO -> SCNY - 3900 (very short, grassy runway. Pull back when slow enough and pump the brakes)
SCNY -> SCAZ - 4500 (another short, grassy runway)
SCAZ -> SCDW - 3500
SCDW -> SCID - sea-level
SCID -> SCNT - 3000
SCNT -> SAWC - 7200 (large mountain closer to the destination airport)
SAWC -> SCDV - 3600
SCDV -> SCIO - 6500 (this is the first one I had to take over and dodge a mountain)
SCIO -> SCOH - 7200 (had to manual above/around the mountains)
SCOH -> SCEY - 6100
SCEY -> SCBR - 8700
SCBR -> SCHR - 5500 (I went up and over)
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By B Bombr on 28 Mar 2022 22:13
Finished this trip last night, no achievement. Never hit back on track or crashed.
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By Nv Defines on 05 Jan 2023 12:50
This was the final of the three achievements I needed. I unlocked the achievement for completing all activities but this one remained locked.
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By Slimey Cat Logs on 22 Jan 2023 16:46
I did this correctly, no back on track nonsense...and I got COMPLETIONIST since this was the last of bush trip/activity/landing needed for that achievement....but I didn't get this smaller Fire and Ice achievment that would be needed to even get Completionist! What glitchy BS. This game screwed me out of this, My Way, and about 3 other achievements that aren't tracking hours or miles right- almost as bad as my PS4 account last year holding out on trophies for me.
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By BungieBanHammer on 04 Mar 2023 21:44
Recently completed this whole thing again since the whole game randomly reset and again no achievement. Tried the last leg again today to see if that would help. No luck, maybe some day.
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By DeepHouse910 on 12 Mar 2023 02:15
I see that people have been winning this achievement, but many others are reporting that it's not unlocking and it's marked as partially unobtainable. Any update on this before I spend time on it?
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By SeahorsePuncher on 13 Jul 2023 17:45
Didn’t pop for me
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By xNG CyanidE on 10 Sep 2023 12:09
I think this should be marked as unobtainable. It's definitely bugged and Asobo isn't going to fix this.
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By PewPewPew on 25 Oct 2023 06:06
This was finally fixed! I updated the game, flew the last stage and the achievement popped right after I landed.
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By PewPewPew on 29 Feb 2024 07:52
Still not unlocking for me. Updated the game, flew the last leg again and nothing.
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By Catching ZZZs on 19 Apr 2024 20:19
I hate that plane.
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By Sashamorning on 23 Apr 2024 23:45
The bush trip achievements should be fixed as of the SU15 patch, 5/23/2024. I had to redo the last leg and restart the game; achievment popped when the game was finished reloading.
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By deranger on 25 May 2024 00:44
Thanks @deranger. Unlocked for me as well after redoing the last leg.
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By Jonas512 on 27 May 2024 16:21
Finally! Almost a year and a half later, I finally got this achievement. Better late than never I suppose. It seems to be working now. Redoing the last leg popped the achievement!
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By Catching ZZZs on 27 May 2024 22:10
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Same goes for other bush trips as in this one. There's 14 legs of the trip. Most of them are really short, being 20 minutes or under, but a couple are longer than an hour. All in all, they add up to a little over 7 hours. This means that you will have to dedicate at least about 8 hours of time just to get this achievement. But probably a lot more, as you'll most likely fail and have to redo some legs.

They do not have to be done in one sitting. As a matter a fact, I'm fairly certain that the individual legs don't even have to be done in one sitting, as in you can quit out in the middle of one and pick up mid-flight. But I wouldn't risk that.

The only thing you can do to void this achievement is by pressing the "Back On Track" button on the VFR map. Anything else is fine.

This plane is a beast to land. Which is why this Bush Trip's ratio is the highest. If you go in too fast, your brakes will tip the plane over if you use them too hard. Also, if your plane will potentially flip over if you're going too fast upon landing. Even if you use your brakes cautiously. You have to turn your engine to idle way before you're going to land, and slowly coast into the runway. I like to be going about 65 KTS or lower.

To refuel, which you need to, go into control options, and search for 'Repair and Refuel'. Then bind it to any key that's not already in use. I used "`" Press they key when you're in the air and your gas tank is refilled to 100%

Fortunately, they've recently added a "Continue" button if you crash. Unfortunately, this seems to not work all the time. Sometimes it'll put you back in the air and others it will put you in the middle of some trees and you'll have to restart the leg.

Edit:
There's a couple ways you can figure out where to go without using the "Back On Track"!

Less useful in my opinion is this.
if you're in external view, there'll be a compass in the upper-left hand corner. As long as you're aligned with 'X' and 'Y' on that (make sure you're going straight on the purple line. and make sure the line is not split) If you're in internal cockpit view, it should be on your left monitor.

This isn't as useful as the other option because sometimes your waypoints get messed up and tell you to go 100 or more NM out of the way. (un-necessary) Also, it makes you follow the actual waypoints, which lead you out of your way a little bit.

The way I do it is to just fly directly to the destination airport. If you zoom out on your VFR map, you should be able to see the destination airport in your navlog and the airport that you're at. You can just fly straight to the destination airport, using the 'Heading' autopilot feature, which is the fastest and most reliable way. You can tell which way you're going and exactly where you're at by looking at the map on your right monitor in the internal cockpit view. You'll have a little airplane icon displaying which way you are facing. You can zoom in and out on this map too.



Edit2: (Credit to TheNutman69321) If you are spawned into an impossible area to get out of, you can fix it, unless you're on leg#1. NEVER press the 'Continue' button when you are on leg 1. Instead, restart the entire leg. (quit to menu just to be sure) If you press continue, it will make it so you can never finish the bush trip (until they update it) if you're spawned into an area that you cannot get out of. Sometimes, if you spawn in a bunch of trees, you can get out of it if you're really extremely lucky and try several different ways to take off.

If you're on a leg other than one, continue button can be useful! As sometimes you can take off easily from the area you respawn in. If you spawn in an impossible area here and are stuck, you need to restart from the previous leg, e.g. if you're on 9, start up leg 8, then as soon as leg 8 loads, go back and start up leg 9 again. This will resume you at the beginning of leg 9.

Comment any more information /questions and I'll add it.
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I also just completed this today with no achievement. I never clicked on Back on Track however I did use navigation and autopilot for a few legs. I also crashed twice and used continue. My progress for Completionist however, did increase. Seeing as nobody has unlocked this achievement since November, I'd say it is bugged.

Edit: I checked the logbook and redid the legs I crashed on, so everything looks complete in the logbook. Still no achievement. Definitely bugged.
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By Catching ZZZs on 06 Jan 2023 21:34
This plane is equipped with autopilot, which means its very easy to set up the aircraft to fly directly to the next airport on the leg.

Under the main screen in cockpit you'll find a "NRST" button that will display the closest airports, use the touchscreen to scroll until you find the identifier for the next airport and select it.
Once you've done that you'll see two options, one is a D with an arrow through it, when means Direct to. The other option will add that point to a flight plan.

Choose the Direct to option, then activate it on the next screen that pops up. Pressing NRST or BACK will show the map again.

Your navigation will now draw an imaginary line from your location to the destination and you'll see the purple arrow on the left side of the screen gain its middle. The top of the cockpit display will also indicate information about distance, time to go and Track. Which can be helpful if your autopilot isn't doing what you want.

To set up the autopilot, look below the main screen again and you'll see an array of buttons.

You'll want to click NAV, so the plane follows the Direct to track you selected previously, FD can be helpful to show you the attitudes to fly on screen but isn't necessary, then we need to select an altitude to fly at. On the right side of these buttons is the ALT SEL knob, you can turn this and select any altitude you want, for some legs that take you over top of mountains, you may need 5000 feet or more. And to make the autopilot climb to that altitude safely, I select VS to enable a vertical speed mode and use the slider just to the left of that button to select +500 ft/minute.

With all of that set, you can take off, begin your climb and enable the autopilot once safely in the air using Y on a controller or whatever shortcut you have to enable AP. You can also press the AP button in cockpit.

Take care not to let the autopilot fly you into the ground on activation, you may need to help hold the nose up briefly until it gets settled. If it really fights what you want, deactivate it, climb higher and try again with more altitude.

Hope this helps someone out.
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By Coffee 46 on 23 Apr 2022 05:30
I think I will leave the rest of the legs until they fix the bug that puts you in the bushes when you continue or restart.

Terrible to get out of.
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By Sol76 on 02 Sep 2021 13:07
How do you know your going the right way
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By True Reclaim on 02 Aug 2021 13:19
I flipped my plane on the first leg landing and now I'm just stuck in a forest nearby. That's where it restarts me everytime. Since its the first leg there's no earlier one to restart from and even pressing the back on track button does nothing. I think I've gotten locked out of even completing this bush trip period and in turn locked out of two achievements. I'd suggest people don't hit continue if they crash on the first leg, if it spawns you in a crazy place that you can't move from there doesn't seem to be a way to get out of it at all, not that I can think of at least.
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By TheNutman69321 on 03 Aug 2021 17:12
I encountered that same issue twice, but on legs after first. Restarting from a previous leg e.g. If you're on 9, start 8 then immediately quit out and start 9 again. But on leg one, it does seem like you are stuck unless somehow you can take off out of that position. (Using the rudders to move, you CAN potentially take off in the middle of a forest.) But you have to be extremely lucky.

Other than that, as of right now, it seems like you are stuck until it's fixed in an update. Unfortunately... I'll update the solution later when I'm at my PC.
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By SincereSeeker6 on 03 Aug 2021 17:39
After hours of trying I was able to taxi to a clearing I found by pure luck that was just big enough to get off the ground. It was a royal pain. If you find yourself in the same situation I'd suggest 20% engine and never release the brake (x) for more than a second, you can drive through most foliage this way at a complete snails pace. You'll crash over and over and over but eventually I powered through.
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By TheNutman69321 on 03 Aug 2021 21:14
Congratulations! Glad you got it sorted out. Good luck!

Edit: I found that if you completely uninstall the game and reinstall it, (or install it on another device) all of your bush trip progress is gone. So that's another way to get out of that situation. but ONLY do that if it's absolutely necessary, as you'll have to redo all other bush trips as well that you've completed to get the "Completionist" achievement.
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By SincereSeeker6 on 03 Aug 2021 22:03
Thnx !!
Restarting is unfortunately a must with this weird plane that tips over when gently touching the brake.
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By Sol76 on 12 Sep 2021 20:33
I just began this bush trip, of course I flipped when trying to break on the end runway of leg 1, you weren’t kidding about this plane being rough haha. I exited to menu (since you said never to click continue on leg one) and when I loaded back into the first leg it said “congratulations on completing leg 1” or something like that and when I exited back to the menu there’s a check mark on that leg now.

Hopefully they patched it, I’d hate to miss the achievement because it thinks I completed leg 1 successfully when I didn’t.
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By iN7trepid on 20 Sep 2021 05:42
If it says you completed leg one, you're good.
The same exact thing happened to be with at least two legs,
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By SincereSeeker6 on 20 Sep 2021 12:26
Gotcha, thanks for the reply, it’s nice knowing I won’t be wasting my time. And thanks for the guide it’s been a life saver!
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By iN7trepid on 21 Sep 2021 03:51
I just had a super weird bug where I pressed continue after failing to land on the 2nd leg (3rd runway), and it spawned me back at the starting runway for the whole bush trip. Had to fly 80NM to the airport, passing by the 2nd airport along the way. No way to restart. Very annoying.
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By MattusMattus17 on 03 Dec 2021 20:57
Is it mandatory to land on each stretch? Or is it possible to continue without landing?
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By DaniJetski on 25 Feb 2022 20:27
You need to land at each individual airport to complete each leg. However, you can just fly directly to each airport and do not need to follow the route.
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By SincereSeeker6 on 26 Feb 2022 00:28
Do I have to complete each leg to get the achievement? I say skip some airports to go faster. Have I done it wrong?
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By DaniJetski on 27 Feb 2022 17:43
Yes, every leg needs to be completed with a check mark.

I'm not sure what happens if you skip legs, but I'm fairly certain you won't get the achievement.
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By SincereSeeker6 on 27 Feb 2022 18:34
So after completing this trip and getting the achievement, having the bush trip as 100% and being given credit (88% up to 92%) towards completionist, I’ve now lost that progress!!

Fire and ice still says 100% against my profile and the activity. My flight hours have reduced and I’m back at 88% towards the completionist achievement WTF!! 🤬
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By SILVAF0XX on 08 Mar 2022 13:42
For those having difficulty with landing. Make sure you land with fully extended flaps to help slow down, and when your speed drops below 40, you can put the flaps all the way up, hold back on the stick and brake. This'll stop you from taking off and tipping forwards.
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By Coffee 46 on 23 Apr 2022 05:37
This is definitely one of the more useful tips @Coffee 46 . Pulling back on the stick as you brake will stop the plane from tipping. I also just tap the brake button periodically instead of holding it in when the plane has almost come to a stop, as I have had it almost tip over even when pulling back if I hold the brake button in at really low speeds.
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By MikkDC on 30 Jun 2022 19:39
Quick tip: if you get lost just assign your smartcam to show you the next waypoint. Just click the camera button on the drop down menu and click smartcam. For me I had to assign it to 'airport' for some reason. Other options would not give me the correct heading/location of the next waypoint. Not even selecting the exact airport you'll be landing at next. Just put it on 'airport' if lost and that should guide you to the next waypoint. :)
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By Ghost Ninja on 16 Jul 2022 00:00
Finished this trip last night, no achievement. Never hit back on track or crashed.
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By Nv Defines on 05 Jan 2023 12:49
Also just finished the trip right now. Never hit back on track button on the map, but crashed 3-4 times and pressed continue, this respawned me a few miles away from the airport. On respawn, the VFR map was open and I think it had a line drawn till destination, and I got a pop-up informing me about the back on track feature. I closed the VFR map immediately each time.
Amyway, didn't get the achievement... 8 hours for nothing. I'm so pissed.
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By Gabwe on 06 Jan 2023 01:22
Hi, There's a couple ways you can figure it out without using the "Back On Track"!

Less useful in my opinion is this.
if you're in external view, there'll be a compass in the upper-left hand corner. As long as you're aligned with 'X' and 'Y' on that (make sure you're going straight on the purple line. and make sure the line is not split) If you're in internal cockpit view, it should be on your left monitor.

This isn't as useful as the other option because sometimes your waypoints get messed up and tell you to go 100 or more NM out of the way. (un-necessary) Also, it makes you follow the actual waypoints, which lead you out of your way a little bit.

The way I do it is to just fly directly to the destination airport. If you zoom out on your VFR map, you should be able to see the destination airport in your navlog and the airport that you're at. You can just fly straight to the destination airport, using the 'Heading' autopilot feature, which is the fastest and most reliable way. You can tell which way you're going and exactly where you're at by looking at the map on your right monitor in the internal cockpit view. You'll have a little airplane icon displaying which way you are facing. You can zoom in and out on this map too.

Let me know if you have any more questions!
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By SincereSeeker6 on 02 Aug 2021 23:32
You can restart at the previous leg and then immediately back out, and then load your current leg back up and start it from the beginning.

Example: Stuck on leg 8, load up leg 7, quit, and load leg 8 again.
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By SincereSeeker6 on 02 Sep 2021 22:05
@Sol76 So it's not just me! The Cub is AWFUL to land. Well not so bad to land it but to STOP the damn thing! :D So much as tap the brake and it noses over. What I found I have to do is snake left and right along the runway with the rudder, as it helps reduce speed much faster.
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By MikkDC on 15 Sep 2021 18:00
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